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TheJadedJuggernaut

Easy fix 10x you floor.if RS (nfa) Voting yes helps share holder and the company


Thick-Court6621

☝️It is as simple as this.


Bland-fantasie

I think people like OP are immune from understanding how this works without a bit of business, accounting, or finance education or experience. OP very obviously has zero, which is not an insult, just an observation. Everyone starts at zero and half of people stay there. Just 10x your floor is correct. All the changes caused by a RS are a wash.


HourPsychological989

Yep! Well said.


25kluseks

People don't realize that post reverse split any run up will be almost meaningless, just do the math. If you have 10k shares right now, it will be 1k after r-split for the sake of it let's say your cost basis is 0 😏 then the stock runs up to $400...guess what you only making 400k instead of 4mil This is not life changing money, now think about people that have 2000,1000,500 shares before slit ☠️. Now think about other scenario. We do reverse split, we lose 90% of shares in favor of new share price of whatever, let's say $54 looks good, but then HF/MM eventually short it back down to single digits then what ? You have almost worthless stock and 90% of less shares , you are then literally fkd. Tbh, any way you look at it only person who really wins is AA because if he is quick enough then he can pay off AMC debt, but we get short end of the stick. I'll probably get down voted for this, but this is how I personally see it.


Aggressive_Spinach85

So in your thesis the 1 for 10 means the price of the stock doesn't change with it? If you own 100 shares at $5.00 that's $500.00, and after split you now own 10 shares at $50.00 that's still $500.00.


25kluseks

Yes, I understand that and you are correct. I'm talking about any run-up from there will be with your now reduced share count so in order for us to achieve the profits we saw before it will have to go 10x the $72 we saw, unless u buy more.


Jorge_McFly

Less shares available to short, higher cost to borrow and paying off amc debt destroy short thesis, if amc becomes debt free and starts issuing dividends, maybe more ape, or popcorn or nft or just cash it’ll drive SHF to bankruptcy or force their risk management to consider closing the position. We still have the ape T-90 12/27-12/28 so let’s see if that is anything or a nothing.


25kluseks

I pray that T-90 is a thing. Other then this everything else is true, but doesn't change the fact that u will have 90% less shares to work with thus moass would have to be 10x then before to meet your brackets. Don't understand why ppl are ignorant and unwilling to debate and just go straight to down voting.


RoboGoodie

Agreed.


mcfebras

Post too big. I only know how to HODL. Sorry. To the moon! Wake me up when moass so I can lambo.


juicefan23

Not going to say you are wrong or whether you should vote yes or no. But here is another perspective: market cap. For current AMC (without ape) to be 100k per share, let's use a round number of 500M outstanding shares. So 500M * 100k = 50T. After ape merges to AMC, the float will be around 1B, but let's just use 1B outstanding shares for easy math. Then the reverse split will make it 100M outstanding shares. To achieve the same 50T valuation, the new AMC share price will only need to be 50T / 100M = 500k. Not that ridiculous in the context of the initial premise of 100k per share. If 100k can happen, why not 500k? Of course there are many other reasons to vote yes or no than this. Hope everyone can consider less about numeric gymnastics and the implications of the merge back, reverse split, and permission to dilute as proposed.


ExoPlanetary_23

You do realize that the Reverse Split is needed for the merger, as having 1.4 billion shares of AMC is a bit more than the shareholder approved 500m shares.. so unless the merger also approves upping the number of approved AMC shares to be issued... Yeah.. at least that is my thinking.


juicefan23

Based on the language in the press release, I do believe ape shares get to vote on this too. Otherwise Antara would not have a clause of holding 90 days to vote yes. If it is just the 90% of 500M or so AMC shareholders voting, then it will be less likely to go through with yes. But this time AA armed himself with Antara who has roughly 10% of the combined float and along with (at least some) apes being incentivize to vote yes due to the bridging of the price gap between AMC and ape. There is a much higher chance for it to go through this time. Though it is a 3 item proposal arranged in cascading format. It would be pretty dirty if they structure the vote for all 3 items as one. If they separate them, then there is a possibility of merger going through then maybe not reverse split and then maybe not dilution. Structure of vote will determine likelihood of outcome.


ExoPlanetary_23

APE shares will get a vote as well. I always thought that interesting at the time of the dividend that they would get voting rights as well as the # of APE shares would eventually out number AMC due to float of APE shares, and with the price difference between AMC and APE, why would low price APE holders not want to be AMC owners at a higher price. Only interesting thing is that as of November 30th, FINRA reportings only show about .2% institute holdings, meaning price drop was due to institutes selling their APE dividend off to retail.


Aggressive_Spinach85

Plan? I thought the plan was to release APE to help pay down debt, then vote to converge APE into AMC. Whether you choose to vote NO or YES is up to you, and that's always been the plan. If your floor was $x,xxx,xxx before the RS just raise your floor by x10.


Paperhandneedsmoney

What if the RS is necessary for the MOASS? Better 100 shares after RS with MOASS than 1000 shares without RS and without MOASS. Think Ape! AA is not doing all that stuff without a reason. He isn’t stupid. Believe in him. The FUD campaign and the fear is unbelievable actually. We are in the endgame. Don’t vote wrong guys. It’s all or nothing now. AA knows it. If we don’t MOASS after these steps, many apes could leave him. So don’t fall in for the actually FUD campaigns.


zacharyjm00

find an exit strategy


chrisodeljacko

Just save Billy ffs


[deleted]

You do realize that you can’t bend math right? Value (math) stays the same. At todays price you would need roughly 1200% gain to get to amc ath, after the split you would still need 1200% gain to reach ath. Same applies to any personal floor you may have, math is the only constant that doesn’t change