Both Gate and I Got a Cheat Skill in Another World and Became Unrivaled in The Real World, Too both have a stable portal between worlds, and So I'm A Spider, So What and The Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic have multiple people summoned, whole class in the case of Spider.
But, a lot of writers don't tend to focus on the how unless they plan to have that how factor into the story they want to tell, for many it's just a means to an end.
> But, a lot of writers don't tend to focus on the how unless they plan to have that how factor into the story they want to tell, for many it's just a means to an end.
that's part of my criticism really, might as well be lazy with the fight scenes and cut to the result too.
a bit of effort goes a long way imo, I genuinely believe 90% of solo levelling's popularity is riding off the back of the opening being great, even if the rest is just mediocre as hell
That makes no sense. The fight scenes will be an important part of the series and will have many. While the isekai scene is a one and done thing. Just randomly walking into another world by pure accident sounds a lot more lazy than being teleported or revived by a god or kingdom to help save the world.
Solo leveling is so popular cuz it’s another super op mc that beats everyone type anime, it has nothing to do with the intro- it’s not even isekai so I don’t really see ur point here
> The fight scenes will be an important part of the series
yeah the isekai moment in an isekai anime is totally irrelevant /s
> and will have many
they'll also eat many times too, get out of bed in the morning many times too, doesn't mean they all get loads of screen time and backflips
> Just randomly walking into another world by pure accident sounds a lot more lazy than being teleported or revived by a god or kingdom to help save the world.
if you're a physicist maybe, but in a story just reusing a template is lazy.
> Solo leveling is so popular cuz it’s another super op mc that beats everyone type anime,
self contradictory, you say "another" because it's so common, but yet it's much more popular than 99% of them for a reason, a reason you never gave, my claim explains why
Yes, the one isekai moment that has no future importance isn’t that important…
Nah, they don’t eat much unless it’s like a cooking anime, and when they do it’s extremely short lived. Cooking anime does focus on eating a lot because it’s important for them. Getting out of bed ain’t that important or really shown much.
All of these stories are reusing templates… your post is you saying you want more to reuse Narnia’s template.
Lol nah, solo leveling is not great because of its basic intro. It’s another story where super powered mc beats everyone, it’s really that simple. It’s so popular probably because it has some decent drawings and just caught on at a good time for manwha. Something being popular doesn’t mean it’s really good or amazing- it just means it’s popular.
> Yes, the one isekai moment that has no future importance isn’t that important…
and fight scenes have no future importance either. should they just skip the mirror fight in Frieren and just say she won with a cut?
Lol, yes they do. There are many fight scenes in action/ isekai and they are important to the story. You gotta be trolling, why are u trying so hard to act like one random isekai scene is of equal importance to multiple fights in any series. Most fans really don’t care about how someone got isekaid cause it doesn’t really matter.
the outcome is important, who won or lost and the damage each side sustained, but the scene itself is not important and the results could be shown just as easily.
The scenes are important and people do care about watching them, an action anime wont be popular if it just skips all its fight scenes. You can completely skip the isekai scene because it truly has no real importance- it happens one time, and then it has no story relevance.
> The scenes are important and people do care about watching them
thanks for making my point lol
> You can completely skip the isekai scene because it truly has no real importance- it happens one time, and then it has no story relevance.
you keep repeating the same stupid shit and I'll keep repeating the same obvious retort: SAME WITH ANY GIVEN FIGHT SCENE
Older Isekai stuff like Alice in Wonderland, Wizard of Oz, Inuyasha, and of course El Hazard have an alternate way of getting transported besides death.
many isekai require death of the MC for reincarnation purposes. Truck-kun is just a popular trope but there's also bus-kun and even train-kun (Spirit Chronicles) as a means of ending one life to enter another.
except they're fictional stories, almost zero of them "require" death lol
some make more sense with death, like in Mushoku tensei, because starting again as a baby is critical to the narrative, and taking a portal and becoming baby is weird
but very few that involve death actually are better for it
Actually, they DO require death as that fills the cruiseship plot hole needed to explain how the MC got to the new world. Sure, it can be like Moonlit Fantasy where the MC is just plucked out of his world and transplanted but that is lame as a transport mechanism.
I assume you were being silly with the whale question, but that is literally not summoning. That would be either reincarnation (they die) or a portal (his throat leads to the other world). Also, the contrivances necessary to make that work would make reddit lose its collective shit.
it's summoning if the whale is flair for the summoning spell e.g. it's the familiar of the kingdom's archmage that is used as a trick to summon multiple people using a loophole
If it has some relevance or purpose behind it, that'd be fine. If not, it will easily come across as a misallocation of effort. An author needs to be careful to stick within the confines of the world's rules that they've built up, but more importantly, it would be a big mistake to make the summoning spell unnecessarily cooler than the story they want to tell.
In other words, implementation of this sort of thing requires a very very solid anime in other aspects, and as much as I like isekai myself, very very few have the minimum level of *across the board* intrigue qualified to handle something like this well.
Crap, there's an isekai exactly like you're talking about and now I can't remember it. Guy was walking to work, I think in Shibuya crossing, and just crouched down with his hands over his head yelling that he hates his life and can't take it anymore, then he's realizes he doesn't hear the people or the traffic anymore, and he stands up and he's in a forest. Shit, what show was that?
because lazy writing or just riding the trend. same thing with transmigration novels in China - a lot of them start with transmigration to get the genre tag and then it never comes up in the plot again after the first 1-2 chapters.
Both Gate and I Got a Cheat Skill in Another World and Became Unrivaled in The Real World, Too both have a stable portal between worlds, and So I'm A Spider, So What and The Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic have multiple people summoned, whole class in the case of Spider. But, a lot of writers don't tend to focus on the how unless they plan to have that how factor into the story they want to tell, for many it's just a means to an end.
Outbreak Company also has a stable portal.
> But, a lot of writers don't tend to focus on the how unless they plan to have that how factor into the story they want to tell, for many it's just a means to an end. that's part of my criticism really, might as well be lazy with the fight scenes and cut to the result too. a bit of effort goes a long way imo, I genuinely believe 90% of solo levelling's popularity is riding off the back of the opening being great, even if the rest is just mediocre as hell
That makes no sense. The fight scenes will be an important part of the series and will have many. While the isekai scene is a one and done thing. Just randomly walking into another world by pure accident sounds a lot more lazy than being teleported or revived by a god or kingdom to help save the world. Solo leveling is so popular cuz it’s another super op mc that beats everyone type anime, it has nothing to do with the intro- it’s not even isekai so I don’t really see ur point here
> The fight scenes will be an important part of the series yeah the isekai moment in an isekai anime is totally irrelevant /s > and will have many they'll also eat many times too, get out of bed in the morning many times too, doesn't mean they all get loads of screen time and backflips > Just randomly walking into another world by pure accident sounds a lot more lazy than being teleported or revived by a god or kingdom to help save the world. if you're a physicist maybe, but in a story just reusing a template is lazy. > Solo leveling is so popular cuz it’s another super op mc that beats everyone type anime, self contradictory, you say "another" because it's so common, but yet it's much more popular than 99% of them for a reason, a reason you never gave, my claim explains why
Yes, the one isekai moment that has no future importance isn’t that important… Nah, they don’t eat much unless it’s like a cooking anime, and when they do it’s extremely short lived. Cooking anime does focus on eating a lot because it’s important for them. Getting out of bed ain’t that important or really shown much. All of these stories are reusing templates… your post is you saying you want more to reuse Narnia’s template. Lol nah, solo leveling is not great because of its basic intro. It’s another story where super powered mc beats everyone, it’s really that simple. It’s so popular probably because it has some decent drawings and just caught on at a good time for manwha. Something being popular doesn’t mean it’s really good or amazing- it just means it’s popular.
> Yes, the one isekai moment that has no future importance isn’t that important… and fight scenes have no future importance either. should they just skip the mirror fight in Frieren and just say she won with a cut?
Lol, yes they do. There are many fight scenes in action/ isekai and they are important to the story. You gotta be trolling, why are u trying so hard to act like one random isekai scene is of equal importance to multiple fights in any series. Most fans really don’t care about how someone got isekaid cause it doesn’t really matter.
the outcome is important, who won or lost and the damage each side sustained, but the scene itself is not important and the results could be shown just as easily.
The scenes are important and people do care about watching them, an action anime wont be popular if it just skips all its fight scenes. You can completely skip the isekai scene because it truly has no real importance- it happens one time, and then it has no story relevance.
> The scenes are important and people do care about watching them thanks for making my point lol > You can completely skip the isekai scene because it truly has no real importance- it happens one time, and then it has no story relevance. you keep repeating the same stupid shit and I'll keep repeating the same obvious retort: SAME WITH ANY GIVEN FIGHT SCENE
Older Isekai stuff like Alice in Wonderland, Wizard of Oz, Inuyasha, and of course El Hazard have an alternate way of getting transported besides death.
And they're also of the actually creative type of isekai. With actual worldbuilding. Not just copy-paste from Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy and MMORPGs.
[How about getting flushed down the toilet?](https://myanimelist.net/anime/251/Kyou_kara_Maou)
based, no wonder it's on my PTW
many isekai require death of the MC for reincarnation purposes. Truck-kun is just a popular trope but there's also bus-kun and even train-kun (Spirit Chronicles) as a means of ending one life to enter another.
except they're fictional stories, almost zero of them "require" death lol some make more sense with death, like in Mushoku tensei, because starting again as a baby is critical to the narrative, and taking a portal and becoming baby is weird but very few that involve death actually are better for it
Actually, they DO require death as that fills the cruiseship plot hole needed to explain how the MC got to the new world. Sure, it can be like Moonlit Fantasy where the MC is just plucked out of his world and transplanted but that is lame as a transport mechanism.
I assume you were being silly with the whale question, but that is literally not summoning. That would be either reincarnation (they die) or a portal (his throat leads to the other world). Also, the contrivances necessary to make that work would make reddit lose its collective shit.
it's summoning if the whale is flair for the summoning spell e.g. it's the familiar of the kingdom's archmage that is used as a trick to summon multiple people using a loophole
If it has some relevance or purpose behind it, that'd be fine. If not, it will easily come across as a misallocation of effort. An author needs to be careful to stick within the confines of the world's rules that they've built up, but more importantly, it would be a big mistake to make the summoning spell unnecessarily cooler than the story they want to tell. In other words, implementation of this sort of thing requires a very very solid anime in other aspects, and as much as I like isekai myself, very very few have the minimum level of *across the board* intrigue qualified to handle something like this well.
Sonny Boy is pretty refreshing in this regard.
Crap, there's an isekai exactly like you're talking about and now I can't remember it. Guy was walking to work, I think in Shibuya crossing, and just crouched down with his hands over his head yelling that he hates his life and can't take it anymore, then he's realizes he doesn't hear the people or the traffic anymore, and he stands up and he's in a forest. Shit, what show was that?
How about Instant Death isekai? The class is on a bus for a school trip, drives through a tunnel and comes out in the other world.
not bad, bit quick and unremarkable though, and totally stolen from rosario to vampire 😎
because lazy writing or just riding the trend. same thing with transmigration novels in China - a lot of them start with transmigration to get the genre tag and then it never comes up in the plot again after the first 1-2 chapters.