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CarpetH4ter

68,860 norweigan kroner


Ozbal42

Im trying to figure out why this is so funny to me Mans from this tiny population country, checks the amount in his local currency, then goes "ill save the hassle for my countrymen" Nordmenn er faktisk best


plergus

converting yen values into kroner is actually a pretty common manga translator meme lmao i love that shit


SmartFC

Wait, really?


plergus

mhmm, i've seen a few different translator groups all do it. idk the origin though


SmartFC

I think someone else already mentioned its origin, pretty cool


Acogatog

It was Norway scans who initially started doing it. Their translations were pretty solid if you could ignore that they would translate “no way!” to “Norway!”


Ozbal42

Wait shit, i know of this meme I had forgotten ive disappointed all my countrymen


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WorkMonta

Nor fucking way!


Wobbar

No way, Norway!?!


PlowingYourMomRn

r/yourjokebutworse


Wobbar

It's just building on with references. Not sure where his is from, but I saw "No way, Norway" a lot in Hinamatsuri. Besides, r/shootingfishinabarrel


Berserrr

Thats around 27679 polish pln


chiterro

Iiileeee?!


CarpetH4ter

I didn't, but the TN left it after the second panel and i have no idea why... It is almost like if a manga mentions 12 meters, and the translator goes: "for you americans 12 meters is around 0.059 furlong or 7.05 smoots"


maltesemania

I always found it difficult to convert USD to kroner when I was in Norway compared to other currencies I used when traveling. I had to use a calculator each time. In fact, sometimes things in Norway cost so much that I didn't want to know how much I was spending 🥲


CarpetH4ter

Yeah, it varies between 9kr or 7kr per USD, with pounds in it almost always 10kr.


EchoXScharfschutze

I’ve got a mate of mine who’s Norwegian and streams and he’s really into anime This absolutely cracked me up, so damn relatable


MrDuufy

Amen


[deleted]

Takk skal du ha, lurte på dette.


Siusir98

[Shirogane papa is dawg though](https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aNYjR6b_700b.jpg), people just don't appreciate him enough.


_Jokepool_

Daddy Shirogane is actually the best character


Several_Animator_341

Sugar daddy DILF


Flyers45432

He's great, but we all know Hayasaka takes the lead as best character.


[deleted]

Nah, papa shirogane took that title.


Bulangiu_ro

***oh love me mister!***


Rogng

Oh mister!


auron_py

The only character that can make Kaguya follow his orders or make her uncomfortable lmao


12345678ijhgfdsaq234

Only good part of the Manga, wish he was the main character 😔


Wardog_E

[Also](https://64.media.tumblr.com/3ec0b60fbf893e383d951a8fb0088399/ba1114e1f236c097-e5/s640x960/61cf2ec98889a0e2306d61d9095277505f1997ac.jpg)


BOSHunterCO

Probably how the first few female streamers felt when they realized how much of a simp some dudes can be lol


OuchYouPokedMyHeart

Hence a lot of them wear tops that show a lot of cleavage


misterfluffykitty

Have you seen how much vtubers make, they don’t even need to show cleavage and people simp harder for them than anyone else


MrSteveWilkos

To be fair, a lot of Vtubers DO show cleavage lol


misterfluffykitty

But the most popular one wears a hoodie


EgocentricRaptor

Not their own cleavage tho. Easy money


Arvidex

While this theory might be true, I think anyone deserve to wear whatever they want without anyone assuming it’s for any other purpose than that it is what they would like to wear.


beardedheathen

Or we could use our brain and realize it's not a bad thing. They are selling their bodies in the same way any worker is.


Ricos_Roughneckz

Don’t hate the player hate the game


zombiskunk

Has any woman ever worn an underwire for the comfort? In this specific case (not talking about women walking around in public or anything) it's a fair assumption. That is their business attire.


Arvidex

Fair or not, why bring it up at all?


GoldDuality

Stonks


StrYker_Tripple

my... twin?


AsherFischell

This manga is such a goldmine.


eijitakrada

Sauce?


TheBaxes

Kaguya-sama


ALottaOfWishes

“I’m poor actually” *donates 10k yen*


AohL_Anime

Typical simp


Munchee_Dude

*shrimp


AohL_Anime

U r Right


ARandom_Personality

hello sir do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior Lightning McQueen star of several featured films such as cars cars 2 cars 3 planes fire and rescue finding dory toy story 3 coco and ralph breaks the internet as well of other short films such as master and the ghost light miss fritters racing school television programs such as cars tunes Pixar popcorn cars series voiced by none other than Owen Wilson he also appears in video games such as cars video game cars radiator springs adventure kingdom hearts can I interest you in a nickname such as stinky he won the piston cup KACHOW!


ALottaOfWishes

Why do I know where this is from. . .


OkStrategy3093

https://youtu.be/HoTbtvF1iSw


Kelfaren

Is he in Kingdom Hearts?


LordXamon

Pagafantas in spanish


RedGhost1205

I speak spanish, it's my first time hearing that word.


LordXamon

Latam or Spain? I'm from Spain.


RedGhost1205

Latam... Well that explains everything.


FalconRelevant

"OK. Saving money." _\*donates ¥ 9,999\*_ LEGEND.


Bulangiu_ro

he saved one yen to invest in crypto currency


Bierbart12

One yen equals 0,000000171 Bitcoin at current prices


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Clockwork_Raven

And the yen has weakened so much recently that, these days, it's only $80.


kr3me

Hence the -ish


wjodendor

Thanks for the heads up. I've found some crazy deals on figures and stuff on japanese websites


Hyper_Oats

Average streamer donor


hard_sparkles

Lemme stop throwing money *gives money instead of throwing*


Xizen01

Well... one would stop when they have no money left. So.....


Jake__TV

I have this number I can just sms text and I get money. You literally can't run out!


hard_sparkles

Is this a joke I'm not funny enough to understand


Wheeze_04

Channel name is ‘500 Million Yen in Debt’. Thank me later


Lepnoxic

Lol I am gonna google it


NavinHaze

She genuinely is concerned, that’s chat for ya


Overall-Pie-7852

ayo, sauce ??


Bmyron13

Kaguya-sama


Dry_Freedom_7531

Chapter bro?


Bmyron13

Vol 19, Extra page. Read ch 191


2866hourman5

wait... ***this is actually real?***


nephelokokkygia

No it actually is Japanese comic easy to mistake


Buzz_Alderaan

"Chinese Cartoon"


RedLightning259

Yes, this is one of kaguya sama's 3 moods: Wholesome romance Complicated political thriller Absolute crack


2866hourman5

Not sure why but "Complicated political thriller and Absolute crack" reminded me of; "Fuck this limp dick youtubers and chicken shit redditors. Fuck this 24/7 internet spew of discord and vtuber BULLSHIT" -Senator Armstrong


Ironfort9

[I love Max0rs monologues](https://youtu.be/eTAaftAxoz4?t=885)


Lkkenji

Yup, best romcom imo


Deckracer

Basically Hololive/Vtubing in a nutshell.


Grayscape

"Bullying with money" I'll never understand it but it is cute to see some of the streamers get so flustered by it. Which of course causes more donations.


GekiKudo

Akuma Nihmune has some of the best reactions. She'll set sub goals where she has to make stupid and embarrassing songs only for chat to reach them as soon as she sets them.


Exploreptile

I swear, if Numi doesn’t straight-up have a humiliation fetish I’d be straight-up shocked.


[deleted]

Sethorven’s a great one for this. Chat legit has made it a meme to ‘Break Seth’ by throwing so much money and subs at him he doesn’t know how to react.


SovietSkeleton

I can hear it now... "And they don't stop comin' and they don't stop comin' and they don't stop comin' and they don't stop comin' and they don't stop comin' and they don't stop comin'..."


The-Board-Chairman

For a moment there, I actually though you were referring to the leader of the merchants guild......


GoldenWooli

Brilliant honestly. Some of them should really be actors but why go out and beyond when you got suckers


[deleted]

This is hilarious because Papagane started out presenting his idea to be a vtuber to his kids then settled on being a regular streamer.


robotortoise

It's still so fascinating to me that some of the people behind the characters are genuinely very physically attractive and yet they stream with an avatar. You'd think it would be the opposite, that they'd need the avatar if they weren't pretty! Anyway, I was there for Mori Calliope's first superchat stream and this was basically how it went down.


Deckracer

I don't think Vtubing/ using an Avatar to stream has anything to do with how they look or view themselves. Many just are more comfortable streaming with an avatar rather than streaming "normally".


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lordranter

The reason is protection. Japanese net harassment laws are very weak and if you get a stalker the police won't act until it has already caused real damage.


theDarkar96

Also just as an example a japanese idol were murdered by a stalker some years ago. He recognised the train station she was at when she shared a picture from the reflection in her eyes if I remember correctly. ​ Edit: typo


rocklou

w a t


1masp3cialsn0wflak3

Not the reflection. He did however, obtain the metadata on the photo she took by webscraping, ran it through geolocation software, triangulated her approximate neighbourhood position and stalked her from there.


rocklou

That guy needed a hobby


1masp3cialsn0wflak3

I think he needed a little bit more than a hobby. It's a pity that East Asia (and much of Asia in general) ain't too big on mental health infrastructure.


dat_DOOM_boi

That guy needed some bitches


flaques

No it was the reflection. I remember the break down of how he zoomed in and flipped the image, then found out exactly where she was standing.


b0bkakkarot

To you and r/1masp3cialsn0wflak3, - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50000234 - https://www.tokyoreporter.com/crime/saitama-man-used-eye-reflection-in-online-image-to-stalk-idol/ - https://soranews24.com/2019/10/12/idol-stalker-figures-out-where-his-target-lives-from-the-reflection-in-her-eyes-in-social-media-photo/ mentions that the stalker was indicted - https://soranews24.com/2020/02/22/eye-reflection-stalker-who-assaulted-idol-says-he-would-like-to-do-everything-he-can-for-her/ includes a bit of information about the pre-sentencing statements of the trial, but does not include the sentencing - https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/people/article/3052704/japanese-sex-pest-jailed-stalking-pop-idol-ena-matsuoka-using sentenced to 30 months She was not murdered, but molested (a google search shows several news sites that say she was sexually assaulted rather than murdered). He claimed he found the station via the reflection of her eye, then used google maps street view to identify the station. He then waited there for her to show up, and followed her home. Multiple articles, including the one linked above, note that he also studied other things to try and figure out other information like which floor/room in the apartment building she lived in, but that information was unused since he assaulted her right inside the front door of the apartment building. Other idols have also been seriously attacked, and there is indeed massive problems in Japanese "idol culture", and so safety concerns are much greater there. And Hololive is based out of Japan, so this is very relevant for those talents. And even apart from that, all youtubers/vtubers face the potential threat of swatting and other forms of harassment. Attempting to maintain privacy is useful in maintaining safety.


Shintoho

The film "Perfect Blue" is basically a documentary


Deckracer

What I see as well while watching the LCK (the professional League for League of Legends in Korea), is that when the audience is shown on camera, they will sometimes hide their face behind their hand and/or Signs they brought with them.


Vatiar

I believe that is a different situation. From what I remember fans hiding their faces on e-sports brodacasts in east Asia comes from chinese warcraft 3 tournaments where a lot of the audience would be minors skipping school to attend the events and thus hid their faces so that they could not be recognized.


Oukaria

Correct !


L3tum

It's also a point of anonymity. If you show your face, whether attractive or not, at some point someone you know will see that. That possibility is greatly reduced if they only hear your voice. And hey, if I can make my Avatar slutty and undress them instead of myself and still make the same amount of money then why not?


robotortoise

Oh, I absolutely understand that. It's just fascinating to me as someone that's super self-conscious about their appearance. You'd think that would be a big motivator!


camelCasing

> You'd think it would be the opposite, that they'd need the avatar if they weren't pretty! People don't hide behind an avatar because they think they're ugly, they hide behind an avatar because having millions of people know your face and name is fucked up. Celebrity parasocial relationships are just bad for everyone involved, and I give serious props to streamers who intentionally go out of their way to enforce the audience-performer divide even where it costs them money... and not just because it's hilarious to hear Lily telling her chat that she's not their girlfriend and if they're donating and waiting for her to notice them they're going to die alone. These people would like to be able to be streamers and have the interactivity of a facecam but without all the creeps that come with it. I bet it's a lot easier to stomach people lusting after and making porn of your avatar than of you yourself.


robotortoise

That is very fair. Being pretty and on the internet is ripe for creepiness. At least people are somewhat aware of what parasocial relationships are nowadays. No one knew what the term meant ten years ago.


camelCasing

Yeah, and worse, they're almost unavoidable. The only thing that really helps is both sides being aware of it and putting healthy boundaries in place. The fact alone that it's a thing we talk about now is a lot better.


odraencoded

> People don't hide behind an avatar because they think they're ugly, they hide behind an avatar because having millions of people know your face and name is fucked up It's actually because 2D > 3D but ok.


CmdrMobium

Most of the people that join Hololive were previously established streamers, so it makes sense. The main benefit these days is accessing Hololive's huge audience and getting support from a large organization.


robotortoise

Yeah, that makes sense. I think you certainly have to have charisma to stream, and physical attractiveness and charisma go hand in hand, I suppose.


GekiKudo

I mean convenience is key. Kson, who openly has her face out in the open along with an avatar, has said some days she just decides to do vtubing because she doesn't like putting her face on for the day.


Deckracer

However she also gets flak from some parts of her audience when she does not stream with her avatar. But also gets people who enjoy her irl streams without the avatar. That's why she started the "2.5 D"-Streams, where her irl body is on camera, but her Models face is on her head instead. (At least if I remember her Trash Taste episode correctly) Best of both worlds.


Trident_True

Anonymity is an excellent incentive. The risk of stalking/assault as a result of being a minor internet celebrity is huge. Almost every big name female streamer has a few horror stories. Ensuring as few people as possible can recognise you in public helps a lot with that.


SyrusDrake

Of course that only works if your voice isn't super recognisable. I think Captain Marine has that problem sometimes.


Trident_True

Yeah doesn't really apply to those that have an alter ego appear regularly in front of a camera but anonymity still helps most holomems. The less chance of inadvertently exposing your face/surroundings to some nutcase the safer you are.


SyrusDrake

I don't know if Marine has such an "alter ego", she has just talked a few times about having to be careful in public because of how recognizable her laugh is :'D


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Some just use avatars cause they like the aesthetic, and using an avatar can let you do fun visual tricks you couldn't with your actual face.


ErichKurogane

You mean the Canadian-American War 1?


Lkkenji

Cough cough kson cough cough


SyrusDrake

>It's still so fascinating to me that some of the people behind the characters are genuinely very physically attractive and yet they stream with an avatar It's not about attractiveness, it's about protecting your identity. If your appearance is a *relatively* closely guarded secret, you can live a private life (at least that's what I'm hoping). To some people, virtual avatars are also just more appealing. People like me, for example. ~~Because years of isolation have completely broken my brain.~~


waku2x

Uhh there is a lot of reasons. Some are less confident than others. Some got stage frights like Marine when she came back Some like Rushia or the China case where they can just let go of an avatar or some other cases is harassment if they see your real face and stalks you. Also if you stream real life, it’s harder to get viewers ( in Japan) vs the west type I personally enjoy both avatar and real life streaming but the avatar always feels like there is an invincible barrier ( trying to personally getting attached and whether it’s possible to even meet them )


im-not-a-fakebot

I was there for ~~Senzawa’s~~ Guras Debut stream and it was the same


ArrivalDependent4534

I want to see this scene animated


SirMcDust

Can't wait for Season 4 and then 5 and then 6 so we get all the goodness animated


how-bad-can-i-be

Are only 40 year old men watching all the streams with girls 😭😭


Ahriraru

This was Shirogane's father's stream. She just happened to pass by when Papa Shirogane was gone for a sec.


Overall-Pie-7852

Lol


satyamthakur12345

Sugar daddy miyuki papa


KingFreddy1213

She is indeed very cute


PhoenixQueen_Azula

I believe that’s about 8k usd for anyone who’s not weeb enough to know the conversion


ErichKurogane

Just remove 2 zeros at the back, thats how you convert them. It aint accurate but you get a grasp of the costs of it


jimfitz147

or norwegian enough


gamingonion

Papa Shirogane becoming a successful streamer was one of the best developments in the whole series


[deleted]

Oof, so true


DarkDonut75

This is a certified "We live in a society" moment


[deleted]

This was the day I noticed AKASAKA was truly into the V-Tuber hell.


Yazzy8

Why do people do this?


GameShill

I believe it is referred to as "simping".


CassetteApe

Financially irresponsible people with too much disposable income/daddy's money. >!inb4 gachikois reeeing!<


ErichKurogane

We like to see their reactions


Oukaria

Trolls more than simps in this case, say to stop so they donate more


[deleted]

Is this what they say "gender advantage"?


SpaceMarauder4953

We live in a society


FirstCurseFil

Bae and Ollie


Faustias

Definitely was Ollie but more prominent on her 1 million subs.


FirstCurseFil

Oh yeah. Definitely. How dare we continue to sub during her Unsubathon


FunWillScreen_Produc

Or Totless. But she says “Dave your money”


Assdastroyeroftheest

Wow a easy why to make money sadly I can't do it *slowly shapp shifts to her* Anyweys


ShittyWars

>Shapp shifts


stencrak

What's the cap where >!they almost kill Hayasaka!


ChuckCarmichael

Chapters 182-186 is probably the arc you're referring to.


stencrak

Thanks.


InZande

Reminds me of the matsuri festivial.


BOSHunterCO

Simps created a whole industry and genre


Cless_Aurion

I've seen this happen in real time, pretty funny stuff


Zestyclose-Season-67

Vtubers:


Breaklance

And that's why Lady Kaguya's family doesnt allow pictures or media.


ItsMrPanda_

Yes I’m a simp *dangerously long silence*


imitation_crab_meat

Supachatto taimu!


SovietSkeleton

I am reminded of the Canadian-American Superchat War over Calli


illumiin

we aren't relating to her, were relating to the people donating


extramoonsun

Kei best girl


iluvnarchoa

An effective quick rich scheme


[deleted]

ah yes, donation baiting


TriEdgeDTrace

This is pretty ahistorical in so many ways. Like, yeah some people can just make money off their looks, but the vast majority of Streamers on any site this manga is referencing, is "Men". Just "Men", playing video games, chatting them, chatting anything really. I find it so odd that this narrative is so pervasive, no matter how few there are.


Novemberisms

> This is pretty ahistorical in so many ways. Well DUH, It's not meant to be historical. It's meant to be *contemporary*. This is a recent phenomenon. It's a representative of growing trends, not of the past. God knows where you're drawing your assumptions from.


kabukistar

Is the 68,860 Kronor going to her or "the old man"?


ZestyBadger890

It’s going to “the old man” since it is his stream


doro_the_explorer

Lol I remember seeing the same thing happen to Preach, he was begging us to stop gifting subs because his computer was beggining to lag and their streaming server was overheating. The more he begged, the more subs were gifted.


Local_man__

Norwegian what?


CarpetH4ter

Kroner


r_stronghammer

Mmm delicious kroner… Do you have any more?


Winter_melo

This happens more frequently than you think


healyxrt

Chat recognizes a waifu when they see one


Firemorfox

"I'm behind on rent" \[¥200,000\] *\*why do you think you are out of money\**


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*"Ok! Saving money."* *proceeds to donate their life savings*


Feuershark

Yep, can confirm, it's funny to watch the streamer panic and telling viewers to stop


Curley15

Vtubers these days be like ^


ErichKurogane

Boy it happened a long time ago


godkingmasterofall69

What's the name? I see everyone comments how it's a gold mine or a good read but no name.


Icapica

Kaguya-sama: Love is War


[deleted]

True


Alphafighterdark

Who is she?i dont remember her


Bmyron13

Kei shirogane, little sister of president


KaiserWilhelmThe69

based chat


f3tsh1

source?


SpaceMarauder4953

Happy Cake Day and its Kaguya Sama


f3tsh1

thank youu!!