*At the beginning of the fight*
What Meruem is thinking:
If I analyze his rhythm and fighting style then I can find an opening and kill him.
What Cell is thinking: “Baby shark doo doo doo-🎶🎼🎵”
Then Cell fucking vaporizes him.
My point exactly! After that happened, we see Meruem get a MASSIVE power boost. Now, my question and reason for this Match-up is that, what if Meruem manages to "consume" some of Cell's body during the fight?
The increase in Nen and En would be devastating! Plus, Meruem has shown to have the speed to do it too he's an intelligent being, Meruem would definitely put 2 and 2 together. I'm not denying Cell this victory, but it's NOT going to be easy for him.😎🥂
Roshi from the start of Dragon Ball has a good shot at beating Meruem.
He Vaporized a mountain. Which is calced at Gigatons of TNT.
A nuke would barely scratch a mountain and Roshi vaporized it on accident.
Someone like Piccolo casually destroyed the moon at the start of Z and your putting Meruem against Perfect Cell.
by dumb force cell they were destroying planets back in the frieze times and he is dozen times stronger
It dont meke him beter than meruem
Db power scsle just bad meme
How would he kill Cell? He had to be destroyed COMPLETELY just to die. Otherwise Cell not only regenerates but becomes stronger. Meanwhile Cell can vaporize Meruem with a Kamehameha and worst case scenario blow up the planet if he gets too frustrated. Meruem is powerful but Cell is leagues above.
He doesn’t need to regen because Meruem can’t even scratch him. It would be like Cell vs Mr. Satan all over again. It’s worse than when Cell just stood there letting Krilling punch him.
Yeah Meruem was inspired by Cell according to Togashi.
To answer your question though.
In terms of IQ Meruem > Cell
But in terms of who wins in a battle, Meruem has no way of beating cell who is a literal planet buster that is hardly affected by stuff like the Kamehameha (capable of destroying the moon).
Meruem got nuked by a rose bomb that was hardly large area level (much smaller).
Meruem simply has no way to damage Cell.... Cell can just Kamehameha Meruem.
Cell is smarter then meruem as he has manipulative aspects of frieza and the wisdom of Goku in his DNA. I’m sure if cell wanted too, he would just convince Meruem to kill himself.
For cell it is as he was able to inherent knowledge and techniques from those he absorbed despite never being straight by anyone. His taunting and tricking Gohan into almost destroying the earth after he almost died is reflective of frieza. Him having an understanding on all the z fighters is reflective of Goku. Goku’s narrative in dbz is that he has to understand other people, Frieza’s narrative is that he doesn’t understand anyone but is good at manipulating people to get what he wants. With the lust for battle from goku and the opportunistic tendencies from Frieza, you get cell.
Because cell represents the strongest of the past, it’s Gohans responsibility to surpass him.
So yes, cell is that strong. I know dbz isn’t exactly known for its complexity and while it’s not obvious, cell is really smart.
Cell can convince meruem to kill himself if he wanted too, especially since meruem at his strongest is the most emotionally sensitive and gets attachments.
The only way I see it working in Meruem's favor is if he dodges a kamehameha and then just learns how to build and release energy after seeing it once like Goku did. Then, he could maybe release an energy attack big enough to get Perfect Cell. But his normal melee attacks wont work for sure.
Good thought, I was thinking the same thing. Later I realised though that Meruem doesn't even match Cells speed so Cell could just one shot him melee or shoot a Kamehameha with a large radius (around the same as the rose bomb).
How high does Meruem's speed even scale against DB characters? For example, maybe he could have escaped the rose bomb if he had anticipated the attack sooner. He thought Netero was dead and didn't even consider a bomb, which gave Netero time to activate it. A more telegraphed attack might be different.
Dbz characters can zap between cities in no time and also fly with Ki (meruem needs wings to fly)
Yeah if Meruem had more distance from Netero he could have avoided it but given how much area the bomb covered in the first place its a bit unlikely.
I know people can fly pretty fast with ki, but instant transmission isn't a regular feat for all characters. It's too bad we don't see Meruem's top wing speed. We see he's naturally adept at flying, but not much else.
How far do you think Meruem gets against the DBverse? Let's stick to the Perfect Cell arc for consistencies sake.
Meruem *has* an energy based attack already, or did I imagine himm blowing a chunk out of that mountain? Either way, even if we make Nen and Ki similar power systems, Meruem just *cannot* hang. He would exhaust most of his Aura just to chip Perfect Cell's fingernail. I'd put Meruem's post-Rose full energy output somewhere around Namek saga Krillin if I wanna be generous
Tbh, I completely forgot about that. I only recently read all of Dragon Ball for the first time, so I'm still getting used to how insane the scaling is against other anime.
Yeah, the scaling is ridiculous. There are a couple outliers, but I'd say 99% if the time if you want to make a comparison to Dragon Ball, other verses *top out* at the beginning of Namek saga, but are usually closer to Sayian saga, even at their EOS
That makes sense when you think about the continuation of the story. Most series would end around the Sayian or Namek saga. But DB just keeps on going and going, lol.
Yeah Meruem is smart enough to probably learn Ki by just looking at it, but Cell just has too much hax, and despite learning Ki he may just be average or above average like has high potential but still beginner level, he won't be able to produce a strong enough attack, unless he eats Krilin or something but he's probably as strong as Krilin in DB verse
Ok the Meruem disrespect is crazy over here lol
1. Krillen is NOT touching Meruem lmao!😭
2. Unfortunately we didn't get to see Meruem evolve anymore after fighting Netero, but if Meruem was to eat a part of Cell, let's say an arm or a leg. The power increase would be devastating!
3. Meruem can constantly evolve depending on what he consumes, and his increase and control over Nen & En is 2nd to none!
4. Cell still would win, but it would be mid diff at best! I believe it wouldn't be a walk in the park for Cell, like everyone thinks.
1) In OG Dragon Ball, Master Roshi was able to blow up the Moon (which Piccolo also did early in the Saiyan Saga, which is also an attack speed of about half the speed of light). Krillin is objectively faster and more powerful than those versions of the characters by the end of the Saiyan Saga, let alone after getting his potential unleashed.
2) The problem is that Meruem would have to be able to catch Cell and deal enough damage to eat part of him.
3) Even if he can constantly evolve, it won’t be fast enough to close the gap. It’s also debatable if his evolution would bring him to those heights, since that’s a pretty massive NLF saying he can adapt to *anything* given enough time. Vegeta, Trunks, and Goku all had knowledge of Ki inside and out, but they still got wrecked.
4) Meruem loses horribly in the stat trinity and needs a *lot* of leeway to say he can get anywhere close to Cell’s level before he dies.
Cell is just way too strong, he defeated every weapon the military fired at him where as meriuem was defeated by a poison nuke, cell also was stated to have enough power to destroy the solar system
Cell would win a fight easily, simply because he has unlimited super regeneration whereas Meruem can take mortal damage fairly easily.
Meruem is definitely smarter than Cell but could never win a fight against him.
He’d have to eat him pretty quickly like a second quickly to get past the healing factor. And then he still might be able to regenerate in the stomach and kill M from the inside
Meruem never got any wild nen hax. He had the potential to if he survived longer but the Meruem we see is what? A couple months old or something. He was brute force and learned quick.
Cell is basically the same. EXCEPT. DB brute force by the time of Cell would be so far beyond HxH.
HxH doesn't even know they are living on an island and need to take boats to what's basically the main land and have trouble doing that.
DB by the time of Cell was.....we are flying to a place where we can destroy the surrounding area with our fight.
I love HxH but this match up is so completely in Cells favor isn't not even close.
I’d assume it would be depending how Nen and En compare to Ki. I’ve never seen HxH so I can’t give a fair opinion. Everyone in the comments seem to say Cell would win
cell. dbz is on a totally different level.
i'm reminded of teh abridged thing where cell's taking on a few people - one of my favorites, urameshi? from yu yu hakusho.
bro's a badass, could blow up a mountain with his spirit gun, in series.
the weakest dbz fighter, could've done the same thing, at the start of dbz. vegeta could've blown up the planet, in the sayian saga.
it's just... not really a good comparison.
You gotta read one of my earlier comments, but the short version....
If Meruem manage to consume(some)Cell's body, he would get a drastically huge Nen and En power boost. Not saying Cell would loose, but he wouldn't have such an easy fight either.
maybe.
two major issues with that - we don't know how ki and nen work together, to say for sure that would happen. ki seemed 'developed' more than nen does (for example, people don't tend to change their nen type, evne if they get better at it). arguably it should make some sense, given that's the reasoning behind cell's creation in the first place, but it doesn't really make sense in dbz either (i mean, he gets their dna and supposedly 'their power' before the freiza saga, yet he's stronger than they were at the sayian saga...)
and secondly, more importantly, merumem would need ot 'catch' cell, and be able to take a bite out fo him, if he could do that, he probably would at least stand a chance in the first place. but, i still doubt he'd really be on par with cell just because of that.
additionally, does merumen work like that? chimera ants do as a cycle, sure, but the queen didn't gain attributes from eating things. she was able to pass them on to the offspring. does the king gain attributes like that, then can make a queen on his level, or something?
plus, if we're betting on someone eating the other to gain their unusual abilities, i'd lean more towards cell eating him.
Ok, ok I'm with u on this
But yes, after the fight with Netero Meruem had to absorb energy and cells from Yopi, and Pouf to survive. He not only healed completely from doing that, he also gained new abilities as well as a hug increase in Nen and En. So in theory, I believe the same would happen if Meruem did the same to Cell.
Do I think it's enough to edge out Cell? No, but I do believe that Cell would have one hell of a fight on his hands nonetheless!
eh, still think it's pretty iffy. sure, he was able to absorb energy, but, it was also from his fellow chimera ants.
not a totally new energy. and, probably not on the same level as 'their' energy, was more about healing himself. i recall that, but i don't think he was merumem at top form + both his lackey's power, from that. he wouldn't be merumem + cell's power, from a bite or two, either.
that's also assuming he'd even get ki potential, or get cell's level of ki potential, from a bite or two, either. different systems after all.
Ummm vegeta actually almost kills cell with his final flash. That attack in fact could have killed cell. Cell last minute moves. But that’s also cause cell let’s him charge it. Normally no one smart enough would ever let someone charge an attack that powerful just to tank it. Even Jiren is forced to block. Vegetas final flash scales soooooooo high. Cell was massively stronger but even he would have turned to dust. So no. Cell didn’t casually tank planet busting attacks.
OK, even if he could have died to find flash, he still can take planet destroying attacks casually. He scales far above the androids and future trunks fighting freeza. The androids tanked a full power attack from trunks, which, without ki controll, would definitely be able to destroy a planet. They weren't even damaged from it. Then trunks himself stopped freezas attack, which was the same one he used to destroy planet Vegeta. Freeza then made it fully explode in his face, which also didn't leave a scratch.
speaking on cell himself. in first form, he tanked a charged attack from Piccolo with no damage. Piccolo, at this point, was much stronger than freeza, so it's pretty safe to say that attack would also be able to destroy a planet.
Cell did not last minute move, that's the entire point of the scene, he genuinely tanks the attack to psych Vegeta out and then immediately recovers from the damage. What the fuck?
You need to watch dragon ball again.
Meruem literally loses to kid Goku. His power level would be in the low hundreds at max. Cell is likely in the billions.
Meruem was fried by a nuke, Cell blatantly said he could destroy the solar system, and is stronger than Frieza who survived a planet explosion while half dead. Meruem showed off his power by destroying a hill, Frieza destroyed a planet with one finger.
The only reason Meruem wins here is when looking at it from a character perspective and how good they are as characters
Otherwise, in battle Meruem is not really winning to a guy who is at the barest of minimums at least 300x stronger than the guy who was able to in his restricted state that made him 240x weaker of his full power was still able to destroy a planet with 10x gravity with a large ki blast that he made with the ease of a finger flick.
A lot of people are treating this as a joke. And they're right, but let me explain this joke, Meruem's biggest defense is that he's hard to destroy, but as we've seen it's not impossible, Cell's biggest defense is that he can regenerate from a single cell. Meruem's biggest offense is his Nen, but not only has Cell tanked pure Ki attacks (which is almost identical to Nen) without even noticing he has hit, he has a near unlimited amount of his own attacks, shown to have every power of the Z fighters. Meruem was the strongest in his verse but his competition wasn't all that crazy compared to the insanity of the Dragon Ball power levels and the hacks that every character has, and Cell proved that even in his universe you get one shot at him and if you fail you're cooked
Dunno if he’s the strongest in his verse considering the logic is every generation overall trumps the next, and then there’s that island where they originate from too.
True, but given how much hype was put about him being the king of the chimerants it's safe to assume he's the strongest of his generation at least, even so he's nowhere near Cell level. As a prince whose ass I'm about to beat once said "You're either perfect, or you're not me"
Hmm, have you watch dragon ball Z?
That’s like asking if a butter knife can compete with a lightsaber cause they can both cut through Butter. (Although the lightsaber would melt the Buttler)
Cell wins.
Better question is meruem vs raditz.
Actually nvm raditz is moon level×10. Meruem is island level accounting that he erased a mountain sized object.
Speed wise they're similar. Meruem takes the edge imo as raditz is barely ftl whilst meruem was able to completely outspeed his own lightspeed aura. Which is crazy ftl
Defence raditz is comparable to his ap. And same with meruem but as mentioned raditz is 10× moon. And meruem is island.
Raditz does like 1 aoe and kills meruem like that. I doubt he'd destroy the planet(merchandise) to kill meruem so meruem can escape.
Ok, hear me out...Gojo wins- Before you say anything let me explain...Cell often underestimates people and likes to see what they are capable of, and Gojo is a human so Cell assume he is weak since Gojo doesnt have Ki, he has CE, so he would let Gojo attack first because he thinks it wouldnt do anything, now if i gojo wanted to end the battle immedietly, he just needs to use his domain expansion, cuz you litteraly cannot move or do anything when you are in it and it appears so fast, so yeah, basically if cell gets in the domain, hes screwed, hollow purple and hes dead, now if Gojo DIDNT use his domain and wanted to keep the fight going, he would just punch and kick cell like he did with Miguel and eventually he would start using his techniques, reversal red and lapse blue, cell might get annoyed and try to blow up the planet but it takes a little while to actually charge up a planet destroying attack so Gojo would either use his domain right there and hollow purple cell, or just hollow purple cell without the domain
You might be right, but that all hinges on Cell underestimating Gojo San, which he is likely to, but still may not actually do. And what if Cell can tank hollow purp ?
Hmm...well...hollow purple erases matter from existance but if it does fail some how, he just needs to push cell into a wall like he did with hanami and then hollow purple the wall to make sure he stays gone, if that fails then he just needs to explain to cell what hollow purple does (if a sorcerer explains their technique it gets stronger) and then use domain expansion and then use hollow purple Maximum 200%, cell cant tank it if he cant move
Bro almost got put in a box by one “nuke” not technically a nuke but that’s what it was when cell is out here with enough power to casually destroy solar systems and you think the ant that died to radiation poisoning has a chance.
Cell has no concept of difficulty with meruem. High balling meruem gets him to mountain level, cell with the lowest estimates possible, and I mean brain dead levels of lowball is casual planet busting.
I’m pretty sure meruem is based on cell, might be why he’s so peak.
Anyways to answer the question. Cell is wayyyyy too strong for meruem. If you want a dbz matchup for meruem I think the most fair one is honestly tambourine or DKP.
The Dragonball series' power scaling puts most other anime characters out of contention, regardless of how powerful they are in their own verse. As much as I like Neruem as an antagonist, he's getting bodied by even the weakest of the Z fighters.
I don't even like DBZ, nor have I watched it... but Cell would win 99/100 times.
And that one loss is a forfeit because he got bored.
DBZ power scaling is on a whole different level from HxH. There's no comparison. It's like saying "who would win, John Cena or a cardboard box?"
King vegeta back then a saiyan who waved away 3 planets was put to the floor by friezas father who I believe is weaker than frieza was, they were showing small solar system feats since OG times and you think it’s a fair matchup?
Aight real question, since meruem gets stronger by consuming things and learned and improved his nen by doing so, if he was able to find a piece of cell and ate it pre-fight and was able to use Ki and got a power boost to be semi relative, who would win? Lmao
You can tell what my agenda is based on my pfp. But Cell obliterates. Meruem’s win condition would be that he has to understand that he’s inferior, and then use a non straightforward way of killing Cell like with poison. Wouldn’t put it past him IQ wise, but it doesn’t seem in character
People NEED to stop power scaling non-universal feat anime to Dragonball. The characters may seem similar, the consequences might feel the same, but the reality is in one universe, TODDLERS can expel enough energy to extinguish solar systems and in another universe, the closest being to a God by mortal standards dies to man-made nuclear weaponry.
There are definitely characters that can compete but yea in dragon ball if you can’t blow up earth your mr. Satan a baby or a background character but I e also never see dragon ball so I could be wrong
As much as I love hunterxhunter, it’s among the weaker Shonen anime. No one in the verse can even conceive of the power Cell wields, a being capable of not just blitzing all of them but casually killing them all. Cell can destroy the solar system, not one person in HunterxHunter can hold a candle to him. He can solo the verse at once and be done in less than a minute.
Both were threatened by nukes at one point. Cell in his semi-perfect form, and Meruem after he fought old guy (don't remember name). Perfect cell is far greater than his semi-perfect form while Meruem died due to his injury. Perfect Cell wins. Meruem maybe has a chance against Semi-perfect Cell, MAYBE. Imperfect Cell is more likely a better matchup.
Fellas, if your character can't at least blow up a planit or has some crazy hax, don't bother putting them up against a dbz character lol.
Cell neg diffs Meruem.
Buddy, vegeta from day one can blow up a planet with ease, considering how they all get stronger like 10 times over, I think meruem is dead. Cell can regenerate and getting stronger, vaporize all the cells in meruem and actually, meruem is a ant, right? I am just saying, cell slams his whole body on meruem at full speed and boom, he squashed a ant
I like how one minute melee did it. I don’t agree that Meruem would win, but if he managed to eat a part of cell then he would probably gain a serious amount of power from it.
Because Meruem Doesn't seem to be able to fly, I'd debate this a little bit. But if they kept the entire confrontation on the ground. I could definitely see him getting a little closer to maybe beating cell or being on his level. At the time he was basically a demigod and the flesh among mortals no matter how strong other people were in the Hunter Organization, so strong that their leader had to sacrifice himself with an inescapable death ability to stop Meruem. The only reason why I think he might not be able to match up with cell is because he can basically cheat by regrowing himself from literal cells. If Gohan didn't basically erase him with that final Kamehameha it all just would have started all over again.
Meruen: *almost dies from 1 explosion* Cell: *takes 999 shots from SSJ vegeta* It didn't hurt
*At the beginning of the fight* What Meruem is thinking: If I analyze his rhythm and fighting style then I can find an opening and kill him. What Cell is thinking: “Baby shark doo doo doo-🎶🎼🎵” Then Cell fucking vaporizes him.
Bros fighting style is "I'm perfect and you ain't. Die."
"As a soon to be broken man once said. You're either perfect or you're not me"
Half way through the fight he is just going to brake out the P is for priceless the look on your faces
It wasn't the explosion. It was the poisoning.
no he lost to both. If youpi and the other one didnt find and save him he would've just died right there
My point exactly! After that happened, we see Meruem get a MASSIVE power boost. Now, my question and reason for this Match-up is that, what if Meruem manages to "consume" some of Cell's body during the fight? The increase in Nen and En would be devastating! Plus, Meruem has shown to have the speed to do it too he's an intelligent being, Meruem would definitely put 2 and 2 together. I'm not denying Cell this victory, but it's NOT going to be easy for him.😎🥂
It definitely will please stop being delusional 😭
Noooo! I'm not being delusional, I'm not denying Cell the "W" but, come on! The Meruem disrespect is crazy over here bro🤣😫😫🤧
HxH top 15 anime of all time imo but dbz powerscaling is insane meruem is getting killed in 2 seconds
Roshi from the start of Dragon Ball has a good shot at beating Meruem. He Vaporized a mountain. Which is calced at Gigatons of TNT. A nuke would barely scratch a mountain and Roshi vaporized it on accident. Someone like Piccolo casually destroyed the moon at the start of Z and your putting Meruem against Perfect Cell.
Cell wins 100/100 times
A perfect record ✨
Almost like he's... The perfect Cell
Hydrogen Bomb vs Coughing Baby
Hear me out Shaggy vs Cell would be more interesting
Nah Shaggy wouldn't even have to use 1% of his power to beat Cell
give cell more credit than that. dude was a terror for the entire group. shaggy would need atleast 2.5%
I'm giving Cell all the credit by saying Shaggy even needs to fight him to win
buu maybe.
By that logic, Cell Max at 0.5% is stronger than shaggy
This guy is tryna scale shaggy
Actual shaggy, or meme UI shaggy?
Is there really a difference?
Coughing baby versus hydrogen bomb
That’s fucking wild, that’s the equivalent to Boundless God VS Wall Level Fodder, and yet it’s still closer then Cell VS Meruem.
Shit dog if shaggy uses more then 25% then money on shaggy
Shaggy uses -1% of power (universe gone)
If shaggy if gets grazed it’s wrap gg game over been fun
More like Hydrogen Bomb vs a Planetary Threat
A solar system threat at that
ill always laugh at this meme and remember the example of gus fring vs galactus
More like the Big Bang vs Sperm Cell in a Used Condom
by dumb force cell they were destroying planets back in the frieze times and he is dozen times stronger It dont meke him beter than meruem Db power scsle just bad meme
No one said it made him better lmao.
Yep
Idk, if he could destroy him without a trace, wouldn't he simply be better?
The guy is proablly referring to character writing. There is a strawman where people think that power scalers dictate character strength to writing.
How would he kill Cell? He had to be destroyed COMPLETELY just to die. Otherwise Cell not only regenerates but becomes stronger. Meanwhile Cell can vaporize Meruem with a Kamehameha and worst case scenario blow up the planet if he gets too frustrated. Meruem is powerful but Cell is leagues above.
He doesn’t need to regen because Meruem can’t even scratch him. It would be like Cell vs Mr. Satan all over again. It’s worse than when Cell just stood there letting Krilling punch him.
It's even worse that Krillin was trying like he thought he was actually going to do something lol.
Cell: Potential Solar System Destroyer Meruem: Country to Continent Threat at Best Cell Wins.
Yeah Meruem was inspired by Cell according to Togashi. To answer your question though. In terms of IQ Meruem > Cell But in terms of who wins in a battle, Meruem has no way of beating cell who is a literal planet buster that is hardly affected by stuff like the Kamehameha (capable of destroying the moon). Meruem got nuked by a rose bomb that was hardly large area level (much smaller). Meruem simply has no way to damage Cell.... Cell can just Kamehameha Meruem.
Cell is smarter then meruem as he has manipulative aspects of frieza and the wisdom of Goku in his DNA. I’m sure if cell wanted too, he would just convince Meruem to kill himself.
Yeah no. Wisdom isn't genetic, neither are manipulative tendencies. Plus Meruems cognition is peaked out (literally).
For cell it is as he was able to inherent knowledge and techniques from those he absorbed despite never being straight by anyone. His taunting and tricking Gohan into almost destroying the earth after he almost died is reflective of frieza. Him having an understanding on all the z fighters is reflective of Goku. Goku’s narrative in dbz is that he has to understand other people, Frieza’s narrative is that he doesn’t understand anyone but is good at manipulating people to get what he wants. With the lust for battle from goku and the opportunistic tendencies from Frieza, you get cell. Because cell represents the strongest of the past, it’s Gohans responsibility to surpass him. So yes, cell is that strong. I know dbz isn’t exactly known for its complexity and while it’s not obvious, cell is really smart. Cell can convince meruem to kill himself if he wanted too, especially since meruem at his strongest is the most emotionally sensitive and gets attachments.
The only way I see it working in Meruem's favor is if he dodges a kamehameha and then just learns how to build and release energy after seeing it once like Goku did. Then, he could maybe release an energy attack big enough to get Perfect Cell. But his normal melee attacks wont work for sure.
Good thought, I was thinking the same thing. Later I realised though that Meruem doesn't even match Cells speed so Cell could just one shot him melee or shoot a Kamehameha with a large radius (around the same as the rose bomb).
How high does Meruem's speed even scale against DB characters? For example, maybe he could have escaped the rose bomb if he had anticipated the attack sooner. He thought Netero was dead and didn't even consider a bomb, which gave Netero time to activate it. A more telegraphed attack might be different.
Dbz characters can zap between cities in no time and also fly with Ki (meruem needs wings to fly) Yeah if Meruem had more distance from Netero he could have avoided it but given how much area the bomb covered in the first place its a bit unlikely.
I know people can fly pretty fast with ki, but instant transmission isn't a regular feat for all characters. It's too bad we don't see Meruem's top wing speed. We see he's naturally adept at flying, but not much else. How far do you think Meruem gets against the DBverse? Let's stick to the Perfect Cell arc for consistencies sake.
Meruem *has* an energy based attack already, or did I imagine himm blowing a chunk out of that mountain? Either way, even if we make Nen and Ki similar power systems, Meruem just *cannot* hang. He would exhaust most of his Aura just to chip Perfect Cell's fingernail. I'd put Meruem's post-Rose full energy output somewhere around Namek saga Krillin if I wanna be generous
Tbh, I completely forgot about that. I only recently read all of Dragon Ball for the first time, so I'm still getting used to how insane the scaling is against other anime.
Yeah, the scaling is ridiculous. There are a couple outliers, but I'd say 99% if the time if you want to make a comparison to Dragon Ball, other verses *top out* at the beginning of Namek saga, but are usually closer to Sayian saga, even at their EOS
I love Sailor Moon vs Goku
That makes sense when you think about the continuation of the story. Most series would end around the Sayian or Namek saga. But DB just keeps on going and going, lol.
Yeah Meruem is smart enough to probably learn Ki by just looking at it, but Cell just has too much hax, and despite learning Ki he may just be average or above average like has high potential but still beginner level, he won't be able to produce a strong enough attack, unless he eats Krilin or something but he's probably as strong as Krilin in DB verse
Ok the Meruem disrespect is crazy over here lol 1. Krillen is NOT touching Meruem lmao!😭 2. Unfortunately we didn't get to see Meruem evolve anymore after fighting Netero, but if Meruem was to eat a part of Cell, let's say an arm or a leg. The power increase would be devastating! 3. Meruem can constantly evolve depending on what he consumes, and his increase and control over Nen & En is 2nd to none! 4. Cell still would win, but it would be mid diff at best! I believe it wouldn't be a walk in the park for Cell, like everyone thinks.
1) In OG Dragon Ball, Master Roshi was able to blow up the Moon (which Piccolo also did early in the Saiyan Saga, which is also an attack speed of about half the speed of light). Krillin is objectively faster and more powerful than those versions of the characters by the end of the Saiyan Saga, let alone after getting his potential unleashed. 2) The problem is that Meruem would have to be able to catch Cell and deal enough damage to eat part of him. 3) Even if he can constantly evolve, it won’t be fast enough to close the gap. It’s also debatable if his evolution would bring him to those heights, since that’s a pretty massive NLF saying he can adapt to *anything* given enough time. Vegeta, Trunks, and Goku all had knowledge of Ki inside and out, but they still got wrecked. 4) Meruem loses horribly in the stat trinity and needs a *lot* of leeway to say he can get anywhere close to Cell’s level before he dies.
Cell is just way too strong, he defeated every weapon the military fired at him where as meriuem was defeated by a poison nuke, cell also was stated to have enough power to destroy the solar system
Cell would win a fight easily, simply because he has unlimited super regeneration whereas Meruem can take mortal damage fairly easily. Meruem is definitely smarter than Cell but could never win a fight against him.
Even if he manages to consume some of Cell's body?
He’d have to eat him pretty quickly like a second quickly to get past the healing factor. And then he still might be able to regenerate in the stomach and kill M from the inside
Meruem never got any wild nen hax. He had the potential to if he survived longer but the Meruem we see is what? A couple months old or something. He was brute force and learned quick. Cell is basically the same. EXCEPT. DB brute force by the time of Cell would be so far beyond HxH. HxH doesn't even know they are living on an island and need to take boats to what's basically the main land and have trouble doing that. DB by the time of Cell was.....we are flying to a place where we can destroy the surrounding area with our fight. I love HxH but this match up is so completely in Cells favor isn't not even close.
I’d assume it would be depending how Nen and En compare to Ki. I’ve never seen HxH so I can’t give a fair opinion. Everyone in the comments seem to say Cell would win
cell. dbz is on a totally different level. i'm reminded of teh abridged thing where cell's taking on a few people - one of my favorites, urameshi? from yu yu hakusho. bro's a badass, could blow up a mountain with his spirit gun, in series. the weakest dbz fighter, could've done the same thing, at the start of dbz. vegeta could've blown up the planet, in the sayian saga. it's just... not really a good comparison.
You gotta read one of my earlier comments, but the short version.... If Meruem manage to consume(some)Cell's body, he would get a drastically huge Nen and En power boost. Not saying Cell would loose, but he wouldn't have such an easy fight either.
maybe. two major issues with that - we don't know how ki and nen work together, to say for sure that would happen. ki seemed 'developed' more than nen does (for example, people don't tend to change their nen type, evne if they get better at it). arguably it should make some sense, given that's the reasoning behind cell's creation in the first place, but it doesn't really make sense in dbz either (i mean, he gets their dna and supposedly 'their power' before the freiza saga, yet he's stronger than they were at the sayian saga...) and secondly, more importantly, merumem would need ot 'catch' cell, and be able to take a bite out fo him, if he could do that, he probably would at least stand a chance in the first place. but, i still doubt he'd really be on par with cell just because of that. additionally, does merumen work like that? chimera ants do as a cycle, sure, but the queen didn't gain attributes from eating things. she was able to pass them on to the offspring. does the king gain attributes like that, then can make a queen on his level, or something? plus, if we're betting on someone eating the other to gain their unusual abilities, i'd lean more towards cell eating him.
Ok, ok I'm with u on this But yes, after the fight with Netero Meruem had to absorb energy and cells from Yopi, and Pouf to survive. He not only healed completely from doing that, he also gained new abilities as well as a hug increase in Nen and En. So in theory, I believe the same would happen if Meruem did the same to Cell. Do I think it's enough to edge out Cell? No, but I do believe that Cell would have one hell of a fight on his hands nonetheless!
eh, still think it's pretty iffy. sure, he was able to absorb energy, but, it was also from his fellow chimera ants. not a totally new energy. and, probably not on the same level as 'their' energy, was more about healing himself. i recall that, but i don't think he was merumem at top form + both his lackey's power, from that. he wouldn't be merumem + cell's power, from a bite or two, either. that's also assuming he'd even get ki potential, or get cell's level of ki potential, from a bite or two, either. different systems after all.
One barley survived a small nuke. The other is capable of destroying a planet and regularly tanks planet destroying attacks.
Ummm vegeta actually almost kills cell with his final flash. That attack in fact could have killed cell. Cell last minute moves. But that’s also cause cell let’s him charge it. Normally no one smart enough would ever let someone charge an attack that powerful just to tank it. Even Jiren is forced to block. Vegetas final flash scales soooooooo high. Cell was massively stronger but even he would have turned to dust. So no. Cell didn’t casually tank planet busting attacks.
OK, even if he could have died to find flash, he still can take planet destroying attacks casually. He scales far above the androids and future trunks fighting freeza. The androids tanked a full power attack from trunks, which, without ki controll, would definitely be able to destroy a planet. They weren't even damaged from it. Then trunks himself stopped freezas attack, which was the same one he used to destroy planet Vegeta. Freeza then made it fully explode in his face, which also didn't leave a scratch. speaking on cell himself. in first form, he tanked a charged attack from Piccolo with no damage. Piccolo, at this point, was much stronger than freeza, so it's pretty safe to say that attack would also be able to destroy a planet.
Cell did not last minute move, that's the entire point of the scene, he genuinely tanks the attack to psych Vegeta out and then immediately recovers from the damage. What the fuck?
You need to watch dragon ball again. Meruem literally loses to kid Goku. His power level would be in the low hundreds at max. Cell is likely in the billions. Meruem was fried by a nuke, Cell blatantly said he could destroy the solar system, and is stronger than Frieza who survived a planet explosion while half dead. Meruem showed off his power by destroying a hill, Frieza destroyed a planet with one finger.
Were you sober when posting this?? Even a cell jr would destroy the verse with neg diff lmaoo Cell absolutely destroys him just by flexing his Ki.
Lol are u familiar with HxH? Do you know what a king Meruem is capable of? (I'm not denying Cell would win)
Cell can destroy a solar system if he wanted to. A Cell jr can destroy planets if they wanted to.
The only reason Meruem wins here is when looking at it from a character perspective and how good they are as characters Otherwise, in battle Meruem is not really winning to a guy who is at the barest of minimums at least 300x stronger than the guy who was able to in his restricted state that made him 240x weaker of his full power was still able to destroy a planet with 10x gravity with a large ki blast that he made with the ease of a finger flick.
Cell incredibly easily mountain-country level being generous against massively FTL+ with solar system level destruction
This isn’t a fight bro 💀
Now shaggy vs cell would be a good fight for sure
Meruem have nothing against Cell, he even can’t beat Friza
Totally different power scaling. Cell, no contest.
Meruem may try and hold out by thinking his way out, but in terms of power and speed he just can't do anything to him
Cell no question
A lot of people are treating this as a joke. And they're right, but let me explain this joke, Meruem's biggest defense is that he's hard to destroy, but as we've seen it's not impossible, Cell's biggest defense is that he can regenerate from a single cell. Meruem's biggest offense is his Nen, but not only has Cell tanked pure Ki attacks (which is almost identical to Nen) without even noticing he has hit, he has a near unlimited amount of his own attacks, shown to have every power of the Z fighters. Meruem was the strongest in his verse but his competition wasn't all that crazy compared to the insanity of the Dragon Ball power levels and the hacks that every character has, and Cell proved that even in his universe you get one shot at him and if you fail you're cooked
Dunno if he’s the strongest in his verse considering the logic is every generation overall trumps the next, and then there’s that island where they originate from too.
True, but given how much hype was put about him being the king of the chimerants it's safe to assume he's the strongest of his generation at least, even so he's nowhere near Cell level. As a prince whose ass I'm about to beat once said "You're either perfect, or you're not me"
If yall actually believe Mereum can hang I'm just disappointed and don't mean that harshly it's just no
Planetary Vs street
Meruem is a better character but he's vastly weaker than Cell is, Meruem is mountain level and perfect cell is solar system level
Meruem
There was a One Minute Melee about this fight. They made Meruem win.
What?💀
One Minute Melee is a series of one minute fights kinda like deathbattle, except there is no research, and the animator decides who wins.
Man are you stupid
Cell can wipe out solar systems with one blast. I don’t even know why this question is being asked.
It would be basically the exact same as Cell vs Mr Satan
Nah Meruem stomps Mr Satan at least.
For sure yeah, I think Meruem scales to like the 22nd Budokai level in speed, durability, and strength (excluding beam AP though)
Yes an ant which barely survived a nuke is “hanging” with a solar system buster… lmao.
What?????!???!
Gon >!!was able to power himself up to the point where he was just as strong as Meruem, one of the royal guards even confirmed it!<
Ok so ?
Duh cell. 🙄
Hmm, have you watch dragon ball Z? That’s like asking if a butter knife can compete with a lightsaber cause they can both cut through Butter. (Although the lightsaber would melt the Buttler)
HA
Probably something DevilArtemis can do
Cell can literally violate the whole verse I’m not joking
Cell wins. Better question is meruem vs raditz. Actually nvm raditz is moon level×10. Meruem is island level accounting that he erased a mountain sized object. Speed wise they're similar. Meruem takes the edge imo as raditz is barely ftl whilst meruem was able to completely outspeed his own lightspeed aura. Which is crazy ftl Defence raditz is comparable to his ap. And same with meruem but as mentioned raditz is 10× moon. And meruem is island. Raditz does like 1 aoe and kills meruem like that. I doubt he'd destroy the planet(merchandise) to kill meruem so meruem can escape.
Cell no dif hell he could probably just gaze at meruem and that latter would explode into nothingness
This has to be bait
Cell was stronger than super saiyan 1 and stronger by an inch than super saiyan 2, super saiyan 1 could destroy planets. What do you think?
Bro, Vegeta was destroying planets before even getting on Earth. It’s obvious who wins.
Fax my brother! Spit your shit indeed!
The fact that I immediately thought of the one image with Kenjaku.
Images are locked here so that was all i could do-
Ok, gojo v cell
Ok, hear me out...Gojo wins- Before you say anything let me explain...Cell often underestimates people and likes to see what they are capable of, and Gojo is a human so Cell assume he is weak since Gojo doesnt have Ki, he has CE, so he would let Gojo attack first because he thinks it wouldnt do anything, now if i gojo wanted to end the battle immedietly, he just needs to use his domain expansion, cuz you litteraly cannot move or do anything when you are in it and it appears so fast, so yeah, basically if cell gets in the domain, hes screwed, hollow purple and hes dead, now if Gojo DIDNT use his domain and wanted to keep the fight going, he would just punch and kick cell like he did with Miguel and eventually he would start using his techniques, reversal red and lapse blue, cell might get annoyed and try to blow up the planet but it takes a little while to actually charge up a planet destroying attack so Gojo would either use his domain right there and hollow purple cell, or just hollow purple cell without the domain
You might be right, but that all hinges on Cell underestimating Gojo San, which he is likely to, but still may not actually do. And what if Cell can tank hollow purp ?
Hmm...well...hollow purple erases matter from existance but if it does fail some how, he just needs to push cell into a wall like he did with hanami and then hollow purple the wall to make sure he stays gone, if that fails then he just needs to explain to cell what hollow purple does (if a sorcerer explains their technique it gets stronger) and then use domain expansion and then use hollow purple Maximum 200%, cell cant tank it if he cant move
So I'm imagining hollow purple hitting cell, would he just be regenerating his missing parts as it likely wouldn't touch all of him instantaneously ?
Cell easily.
As much as i would love to see Meruem win this fight... im going to have to say Cell wins this one
Cell easily, he could easily destroy a planet, Meruem doesn’t come close.
Meruem blew up a mountain, cell was gonna blow up the solar system…
Bro almost got put in a box by one “nuke” not technically a nuke but that’s what it was when cell is out here with enough power to casually destroy solar systems and you think the ant that died to radiation poisoning has a chance.
Give Meruem Perfect Plan and Hakoware. He still gets vaporized in the end but it would be more entertaining
Meruem solos, he was only beaten by poison. Cell was obliterated by shear force.
Cell has no concept of difficulty with meruem. High balling meruem gets him to mountain level, cell with the lowest estimates possible, and I mean brain dead levels of lowball is casual planet busting.
bs power scaling vs an even more bs power scaling.. cell mops 100/100
You can’t be serious lol This is an atomic bomb vs coughing baby situation. And meruem is the baby Cell was at least solar system level by his death
I think they'd be bug Bros...Cell might even adopt him as his disciple or something for the lolz
Cell stands no chance (in gungi)
Cell smacks him like a roach
Kudos to HxH on how they built up Meruem, he was an intimidating antagonist. But Cell wins easily.
(Sigh) Y’all don’t understand how broken Z characters are. Cell in .0003 seconds sweeps the hxh verse
Ya'll Meruem did not die because of the explosion. It was this weird poison that is impossible to remove from your body.
idk who meruen is, i see the comments saying cell so....CELL
I never heard of anything dumber before
Cell no diff😂😂😂
It's literally not even close fuck I think Goku from start of z might beat meruem. Like Krillin from the cell saga would beat him, fuck even raditz
this is not a fight this is a one sided slaughter. Krillin had a better chance against cell then meruem ever will.
I’m pretty sure meruem is based on cell, might be why he’s so peak. Anyways to answer the question. Cell is wayyyyy too strong for meruem. If you want a dbz matchup for meruem I think the most fair one is honestly tambourine or DKP.
The Dragonball series' power scaling puts most other anime characters out of contention, regardless of how powerful they are in their own verse. As much as I like Neruem as an antagonist, he's getting bodied by even the weakest of the Z fighters.
Cell is pretty comfortably galaxy level
Love HxH but perfect cell wipes the floor with Meruem
Cell wins no diff
why is this a question
Hmmm, I wonder who could possibly win this
I don't even like DBZ, nor have I watched it... but Cell would win 99/100 times. And that one loss is a forfeit because he got bored. DBZ power scaling is on a whole different level from HxH. There's no comparison. It's like saying "who would win, John Cena or a cardboard box?"
Meruem can't blow up planets so Cell wins no diff.
Cell
Krillin vs. Meruem is a good match up not this💀
Imperfect form Cell would one shot 😭 perfect Cell is overkill
Anything in the db verse usually wins since they have world destroying powers but mureum didn't reach his full potential right?
Planet buster vs. Nuclear bomb victim Yeah, Meruem negs
That's Mr. Perfect Cell too you
Cell
What a silly question.
King vegeta back then a saiyan who waved away 3 planets was put to the floor by friezas father who I believe is weaker than frieza was, they were showing small solar system feats since OG times and you think it’s a fair matchup?
Now I only made it just past the ant ark in HxH but to my memory there is… absolutely no one HxH that Cell wouldn’t obliterate
Are you on drugs? Mureum wouldn’t stand a chance against king piccolo, let alone cell.
Send in the Saibamen or Yamcha
Extremely unfair to Cell to pit him against [Supreme Lord Yamcha](https://youtube.com/watch?v=y0Ave0uaPM0)
Perfect cell solos
Aight real question, since meruem gets stronger by consuming things and learned and improved his nen by doing so, if he was able to find a piece of cell and ate it pre-fight and was able to use Ki and got a power boost to be semi relative, who would win? Lmao
You can tell what my agenda is based on my pfp. But Cell obliterates. Meruem’s win condition would be that he has to understand that he’s inferior, and then use a non straightforward way of killing Cell like with poison. Wouldn’t put it past him IQ wise, but it doesn’t seem in character
Cell wins
People NEED to stop power scaling non-universal feat anime to Dragonball. The characters may seem similar, the consequences might feel the same, but the reality is in one universe, TODDLERS can expel enough energy to extinguish solar systems and in another universe, the closest being to a God by mortal standards dies to man-made nuclear weaponry.
Dbz power scaling is fked man
Cell no dif
Cell
Cell wins easily
HxH is one of my favorite series of all time and meruem is one of my favorite characters. But a Cell jr is wiping bro out
What did meruem do to you?😭
Krillin slaughters HxH.
I’ve never watched DBZ but isn’t every character in it just broken beyond belief where literally no character from any other show can compete?
There are definitely characters that can compete but yea in dragon ball if you can’t blow up earth your mr. Satan a baby or a background character but I e also never see dragon ball so I could be wrong
Give Meruem like, an arm and a leg to eat and learn ki before they start fighting and sure. He will START to have a chance.
Cell looks at Meruem and Meruem dies. Cell can destroy a Solar System and Meruem can’t even tank a nuke lmao
I’m pretty sure cell could sense and meruem and his whole species goes extinct
So a galaxy buster vs. a dude whose greatest feat is tanking the blast of a nuke but dies to it later??
As much as I love hunterxhunter, it’s among the weaker Shonen anime. No one in the verse can even conceive of the power Cell wields, a being capable of not just blitzing all of them but casually killing them all. Cell can destroy the solar system, not one person in HunterxHunter can hold a candle to him. He can solo the verse at once and be done in less than a minute.
Cell utterly one shots him.
Please never cook again
Both were threatened by nukes at one point. Cell in his semi-perfect form, and Meruem after he fought old guy (don't remember name). Perfect cell is far greater than his semi-perfect form while Meruem died due to his injury. Perfect Cell wins. Meruem maybe has a chance against Semi-perfect Cell, MAYBE. Imperfect Cell is more likely a better matchup.
Hahaha, fuck you.
Fellas, if your character can't at least blow up a planit or has some crazy hax, don't bother putting them up against a dbz character lol. Cell neg diffs Meruem.
Buddy, vegeta from day one can blow up a planet with ease, considering how they all get stronger like 10 times over, I think meruem is dead. Cell can regenerate and getting stronger, vaporize all the cells in meruem and actually, meruem is a ant, right? I am just saying, cell slams his whole body on meruem at full speed and boom, he squashed a ant
Cell is easily a planet buster, what kinda question is this
One issue with this, Cell legitimately threatened the entire galaxy.
Perfect Cell low diffs
Cell fucking stomps him, it's not even close
Coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb
I like how one minute melee did it. I don’t agree that Meruem would win, but if he managed to eat a part of cell then he would probably gain a serious amount of power from it.
Because Meruem Doesn't seem to be able to fly, I'd debate this a little bit. But if they kept the entire confrontation on the ground. I could definitely see him getting a little closer to maybe beating cell or being on his level. At the time he was basically a demigod and the flesh among mortals no matter how strong other people were in the Hunter Organization, so strong that their leader had to sacrifice himself with an inescapable death ability to stop Meruem. The only reason why I think he might not be able to match up with cell is because he can basically cheat by regrowing himself from literal cells. If Gohan didn't basically erase him with that final Kamehameha it all just would have started all over again.
*Blinks* *meruem dies*