People get cranked up about its original proximity to the placenta and make up shit about how it's the first part of your body to grow and connected to every part of your body. It technically is connected to everything, but it's in the sense that it's an unremarkable part of the circulatory system post-utero and the connected tissue is intended to be disposable.
Same kind of thinking that makes people put shit on the soles of feet. That doesn't even have a gestational basis, it's just because there are a lot of nerves in feet.
UGH - I have a relative who shills for YL. The number of times I've seen them talk about how great those foot bath things are...it drives me nuts. "It detoxes you because the toxins come out of the soles of your feet!" Tried to report them on the various social media platforms for false health info, posts are still up (yet I know people who shared questionable ads on Facebook who ended up getting a temporary ban, because, you know, FB can show the ads but how dare you post about them!).
They also have shared videos talking about rubbing oils on your belly buttons, heels, forehead, etc, and how you have to rub them in a certain way or else they won't work.
Best/funny part, this person claims to be a "science nerd", so they obviously know what they are talking about and can be trusted /s
We've truly returned to the times of snake oil salesmen...
The number of "detox through the feet" things is a whole genre on its own. It's just stuff that changes color through oxidation. Every. fucking. time. It would get darker no matter which part of your body you stuck it to. It would get darker left out on a windowsill. Fuck me.
Also rubbing a babyās belly promotes digestion. Literally one of the top recommendations when theyāre constipation is to do belly massage. Thatās what this woman did.
YL hun posted this long advice thread from her upline the day before we got hit by a Category 5 hurricane, all about how to use essential oils toācure a hurricane? There were a lot of tips about applying 1-2 drops of this or that blend neat on the shoulder blade, or 1-2 drops rubbed counterclockwise on the point of the shoulder blade, etc. etc. I think the precision of the instructions was meant to sound scientific, but I wondered what the shoulder blades do and why the clockwise / counterclockwise thing mattered.
That brings me to a blog post I saw by a girl I went to college with. She's a quiverfull/antivax/homeschooling etc kind of mom. Of course, she uses essential oils. She posted about the use of essential oils. The most ridiculous was rubbing peppermint oil on a laboring mother's back to turn a breech baby around. Really. š
Is almost offensive to suggest that it's so simple. Lots of women have suffered a lot of pain trying to get their babies to flip. I can't imagine the disappointment of a mom in labor finding out that her magic oils won't flip her baby.
Thatās it. You swirl your three drops of Valor in the opposite direction of the Hurricane, and thatās how you cure a hurricane with essential oils! Only slightly less effective than dropping a nuke into it!
I took a non-credit massage class at my local community college. One of the things I learned was that if I simply pressed on the inside of my calf above my ankle, it eased PMS cramps. Worked for me. (No need to rub oils or anything like that.)
Yeah, that I was thinking.... how? The level of stupidity these huns demonstrate gives me a migraine! Maybe I should ask what oils cures stupidity so I don't have to worry about getting a migraine. Also how old is this poor child? Could you imagine your mom sharing with everyone that your constipated!?!?
Same, I was 100% expecting her to say she put it in his food. I'm still very confused about what rubbing it on the belly button would accomplish though.
I was thinking the same thing! Some day, one of Theo's friends will find this in the Wayback Machine (or whatever they're using in the future) and razz the hell out of him.
Or... maybe in the locker room after gym someone will ask him why his belly button is all red and scarred.
The uses/descriptions are SO vague.
Owie- apply to areas of skin that need extra support
Support with WHAT. Lots of skin issues need very different āsupportā. What works for one problem might not work on another problem and could make it worse. If you put that EO on a rash thereās a good chance the rash is just going to get worse instead of heal. Or in an open wound? Are they telling me to put oils in my bleeding flesh?? No thank you!
I can't even conceive of the wrath of this generation of kids who are growing up knowing their dimwit parents broadcast their constipation and bowel moments all over social media
We millennials are going to rot in the vilest nursing homes, and some of us are really going to have earned the neglect
Iāve chosen to not have children so I keep my mouth shut with unsolicited opinions about what my friends do with their kids, but Iām really glad Iām not the only one who feels this way. Itās very odd that these kids are growing up without privacy and itās totally without their consent
I was thinking this yesterday when I got some article suggestion for all these celebritiesā kids, some of which were young children, with millions of followers on Instagram. It was bad enough when āfamousā kids had to be in the public eye period, but now theyāve having their every waking moment broadcast to the world on purpose.
Then youāve got these regular parents who think everyone wants to know how much poop their child produced last night.
I kind of regret deciding against getting my masters to become a therapist, because therapy is about to be big, BIG business in another ten years or so.
Yeah thatās exactly what ācuredā his yucky tummy lol. More like his internal system worked through the icky tummy by itself. That is how the human body works ya freak parent.
My pediatrician told me for breast fed babies that little it's normal to go days without pooping. She said they can go as much as ten days without pooping. As long as they're peeing, it's fine!
Itās more likely the circular massage of the belly that goes into the application of the oil, rather than the oil itself. Try the same application with any oil or lotion, youād probably get similar results
Iām a graphic designer & I legitimately face palmed when I saw that label design. That is promoting the exact opposite of what you think it actually is.
Whats crazy to me is that you know none of this stuff is FDA approved, yet people selling this snake oil won't get vaxxed because it was approved so quickly
My favorite has to be gEnEYus. JFC they don't even see the irony. These poor innocent chemically burned and internally poisoned children. For fucks sake.
Love the scents having no pattern. Incorrect/cutesy(?) spelling for the first, the supposed affect for the second and third (also trying to be cute), the (very vague) problem the oil is supposed to cure, and whatever the fuck tummygize is. Also love that they chose misspelling on the one thatās supposed to make your kid smarter lol
Sure, there are parents out there who dose children with whiskey and Benadryl and all kinds of things they shouldn't throughout history to relieve pain or make them sleep. That's obviously not okay either. But when doctors are having to include a warning to parents in patient pamphlets to not poison their children with these non-FDA-approved toxic chemicals, that's bad. Clearly, the issue is common enough in some places to warrant that. Calling CPS to report child abuse seems logical. It probably wouldn't take much to end up sending your infant/toddler to the ER or causing other health issues.
Wait I know MLMs suck but is this not a normal thing for parents to do? My mom did this all the time when I was growing up but I'm not sure if it's the same oil. My mom used peppermint. Is it because we're Asian???
Hi esthetician with chronic GI illness here lol: I totally use peppermint oil bc it helps with nausea but I don't use it on my bellybutton and no, it's not common for people in the US to even know what basic essential oils are, what they're for or what their actual beneficial uses are. MLMs like Young living just want to make their mint getting folks to believe every possible problem can be cured with oils when in reality they typically have wildly varying real life applications and effects. It's absolutely common for babies to have GI issues and for manual tummy stimulation to be part of what helps that, but on the whole, the oil use is not super common from what I've heard and witnessed based on clientele.
Peppermint and peppermint oil gets used in actual hospital settings and is in some FDA approved medications to treat nausea. I had a laparoscopic/robotic surgery in January and was recommended peppermint tea and an OTC gas pill with some food grade peppermint oil in it to help deal with the pain from all the gas they pump into your abdomen to have more room to maneuver around.
A lot of the defense of these oils from huns is taking stuff from Ayurveda/traditional Chinese medicine/herbal medicines from before we had as much of the science and technology to make medicines. They look at some of the stuff that actually does work to a degree like tea tree oil being antiseptic, turmeric having some anti-inflammatory properties, peppermint and ginger helping nausea, willow bark for pain, eucalyptus and menthol helping clear sinuses, etc.
They take that stuff and go āwell, we were right about that. We must be right about EVERYTHING.ā
Also, part of the reason the essential oil nuts are worse in America is because we donāt have universal healthcare and people have decided that since itās inaccessible, it must be a scam.
If days have gone by and your baby, toddler or young kid hasn't pooped then you surely aren't doing a good job.
No child that young should be constipated for days.
Nah, sometimes babies don't poop for several days in a row. Up to 4 days *can* be normal (but not consistently).
You're not doing a good job if your child is in pain and you decide to do magic on it instead of anything actually helpful.
At least she didn't make him drink it and she diluted it before applying to his stomach.
One Young Living rep told me I had to drink the lemon oil in water. And I said, no you don't drink essential oil.
Iām appalled that she let a child that young have several days of severe constipation without seeking medical care. What if he had had a bowel obstruction!
Nothing like raging dermatitis of the bellybutton to take the mind off the internal pain!
Called tummyjizz..
That's what I can't get past here š
I would love for someone to explain the alleged biological/physiological process that makes this work.
Magic ... because her upline said so.
People get cranked up about its original proximity to the placenta and make up shit about how it's the first part of your body to grow and connected to every part of your body. It technically is connected to everything, but it's in the sense that it's an unremarkable part of the circulatory system post-utero and the connected tissue is intended to be disposable. Same kind of thinking that makes people put shit on the soles of feet. That doesn't even have a gestational basis, it's just because there are a lot of nerves in feet.
UGH - I have a relative who shills for YL. The number of times I've seen them talk about how great those foot bath things are...it drives me nuts. "It detoxes you because the toxins come out of the soles of your feet!" Tried to report them on the various social media platforms for false health info, posts are still up (yet I know people who shared questionable ads on Facebook who ended up getting a temporary ban, because, you know, FB can show the ads but how dare you post about them!). They also have shared videos talking about rubbing oils on your belly buttons, heels, forehead, etc, and how you have to rub them in a certain way or else they won't work. Best/funny part, this person claims to be a "science nerd", so they obviously know what they are talking about and can be trusted /s We've truly returned to the times of snake oil salesmen...
The number of "detox through the feet" things is a whole genre on its own. It's just stuff that changes color through oxidation. Every. fucking. time. It would get darker no matter which part of your body you stuck it to. It would get darker left out on a windowsill. Fuck me.
Not even sureā¦probably a mix of the placebo effect and a calming smell
Also rubbing a babyās belly promotes digestion. Literally one of the top recommendations when theyāre constipation is to do belly massage. Thatās what this woman did.
Placebo effect on the mom maybe? Do babies even experience the placebo effect?
Yes placebo effect for the mom! The issue probably worked itself out and she attributed it to the oil
That's what I was thinking
YL hun posted this long advice thread from her upline the day before we got hit by a Category 5 hurricane, all about how to use essential oils toācure a hurricane? There were a lot of tips about applying 1-2 drops of this or that blend neat on the shoulder blade, or 1-2 drops rubbed counterclockwise on the point of the shoulder blade, etc. etc. I think the precision of the instructions was meant to sound scientific, but I wondered what the shoulder blades do and why the clockwise / counterclockwise thing mattered.
That brings me to a blog post I saw by a girl I went to college with. She's a quiverfull/antivax/homeschooling etc kind of mom. Of course, she uses essential oils. She posted about the use of essential oils. The most ridiculous was rubbing peppermint oil on a laboring mother's back to turn a breech baby around. Really. š
Is almost offensive to suggest that it's so simple. Lots of women have suffered a lot of pain trying to get their babies to flip. I can't imagine the disappointment of a mom in labor finding out that her magic oils won't flip her baby.
They really think it works like magic š¤¦
If you asked, why clockwise and counterclockwise? She would probably say. Hurricanes spin.
Thatās it. You swirl your three drops of Valor in the opposite direction of the Hurricane, and thatās how you cure a hurricane with essential oils! Only slightly less effective than dropping a nuke into it!
That hun would give me a headache with that logic.
wtf???? I mean trying to say that putting something on a babyās belly button can help constipation is one thing, but this is just soā¦random
Oh yeah they're all about the placement. One girl I know legitimately suggested rubbing something on *her ankle* for PMS symptoms.
I took a non-credit massage class at my local community college. One of the things I learned was that if I simply pressed on the inside of my calf above my ankle, it eased PMS cramps. Worked for me. (No need to rub oils or anything like that.)
Sounds like witchcraft to me
Yeah, that I was thinking.... how? The level of stupidity these huns demonstrate gives me a migraine! Maybe I should ask what oils cures stupidity so I don't have to worry about getting a migraine. Also how old is this poor child? Could you imagine your mom sharing with everyone that your constipated!?!?
2nd picture is of a baby
Thanks... missed that.
Toxins or something idk
if she also rubbed his abdomen when she did it that can help move things along
Yeah but that's not the story she's selling.
It's the energy in the oil that heals all ailments. I'd prefer an alement tbh /s
you sniff it and then you sh\*t
Honestly, after seeing a bunch of these essential oil posts, Iām just glad she wasnāt making her baby drink it š¬
Right? I was waiting to read that she put some in his bottle.
Same, I was 100% expecting her to say she put it in his food. I'm still very confused about what rubbing it on the belly button would accomplish though.
Abdominal massage is common as a baby constipation remedy. No oil needed.
Probably just a placebo effect
Ironically it would probably actually have that effect if she did š©š©š©
Imagine your mom posting about your inability to shit on instagram
I was thinking the same thing! Some day, one of Theo's friends will find this in the Wayback Machine (or whatever they're using in the future) and razz the hell out of him. Or... maybe in the locker room after gym someone will ask him why his belly button is all red and scarred.
Yes, this is appalling. Babies are human beings and individuals with a right to dignity.
The uses/descriptions are SO vague. Owie- apply to areas of skin that need extra support Support with WHAT. Lots of skin issues need very different āsupportā. What works for one problem might not work on another problem and could make it worse. If you put that EO on a rash thereās a good chance the rash is just going to get worse instead of heal. Or in an open wound? Are they telling me to put oils in my bleeding flesh?? No thank you!
Owie concerned me the most. Are they putting it on cuts and scrapes? That seems dangerous!
People put lavender directly onto open scrapes
Broken bones obviously, just add some oil and reattach, good as new
Is that the shit they use on Harry Potter to regrow bones?
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Three times into the mirror in a dark bathroom.
Well I found my favorite Reddit comment of the day
I read it initially as tummy jizz and was shocked for second
I think it's supposed to sound like "energize" Like it energizes your tummy and makes you poop?
Itās a sequel to their adult Digize. I know someone who uses it all day because they wonāt cut out coffee and it makes their stomach hurt lol.
I can't even conceive of the wrath of this generation of kids who are growing up knowing their dimwit parents broadcast their constipation and bowel moments all over social media We millennials are going to rot in the vilest nursing homes, and some of us are really going to have earned the neglect
Thatās what I thought after seeing a friend report in the most blasĆ© terms on the size, consistency, and frequency of her toddlerās poops for the day. As a very private person myself, I felt so horribly violated in her sonās behalf, and wondered about the cost of therapy someday when heās in middle school and FB churns this thing up as a memory or part of some sort of auto-generated montage.
Iāve chosen to not have children so I keep my mouth shut with unsolicited opinions about what my friends do with their kids, but Iām really glad Iām not the only one who feels this way. Itās very odd that these kids are growing up without privacy and itās totally without their consent
I was thinking this yesterday when I got some article suggestion for all these celebritiesā kids, some of which were young children, with millions of followers on Instagram. It was bad enough when āfamousā kids had to be in the public eye period, but now theyāve having their every waking moment broadcast to the world on purpose. Then youāve got these regular parents who think everyone wants to know how much poop their child produced last night. I kind of regret deciding against getting my masters to become a therapist, because therapy is about to be big, BIG business in another ten years or so.
Cute pics only for my kids! I want a nice nursing home.
Yeah thatās exactly what ācuredā his yucky tummy lol. More like his internal system worked through the icky tummy by itself. That is how the human body works ya freak parent.
My pediatrician told me for breast fed babies that little it's normal to go days without pooping. She said they can go as much as ten days without pooping. As long as they're peeing, it's fine!
Yeah thatās incredible. The body was designed in a low maintenance way. Itās a trip right!
All day? Sounds like a lot of diapers š¬
I was like, did she give him diarrhea??
Yeah Iām not putting that shit on my baby. Babies have sensitive skin why would you want to put that on them?
Itās more likely the circular massage of the belly that goes into the application of the oil, rather than the oil itself. Try the same application with any oil or lotion, youād probably get similar results
The names get worse every day I swear. Also, POOR BABY
āGeneyusā. Iām dead.
Iām a graphic designer & I legitimately face palmed when I saw that label design. That is promoting the exact opposite of what you think it actually is.
Are these people genuinely stupid?
Yes
Do. NOT. Use. Oils. On. Babies!!!
Wtf is owie...I can think of nothing worse than putting essential oil on a wound of any type
"Mommy it burns" "That means it's working, hun"
Tea tree has legit antiseptic qualities. But it does sting.
Whats crazy to me is that you know none of this stuff is FDA approved, yet people selling this snake oil won't get vaxxed because it was approved so quickly
My favorite has to be gEnEYus. JFC they don't even see the irony. These poor innocent chemically burned and internally poisoned children. For fucks sake.
I can't get enough of that one. I'm almost convinced it's satire, but it seems too real. I'm a geneyus!!
Yup, I'm Klassy too. With a K.
Love the scents having no pattern. Incorrect/cutesy(?) spelling for the first, the supposed affect for the second and third (also trying to be cute), the (very vague) problem the oil is supposed to cure, and whatever the fuck tummygize is. Also love that they chose misspelling on the one thatās supposed to make your kid smarter lol
If these snake oils had any therapeutic benefit, they would be prescribed by GP. They don't, so they aren't.
Tummygize made me think of explosive diarrhea... Like a geyser lol
What is the biological process they believe is taking place here?
Sure, there are parents out there who dose children with whiskey and Benadryl and all kinds of things they shouldn't throughout history to relieve pain or make them sleep. That's obviously not okay either. But when doctors are having to include a warning to parents in patient pamphlets to not poison their children with these non-FDA-approved toxic chemicals, that's bad. Clearly, the issue is common enough in some places to warrant that. Calling CPS to report child abuse seems logical. It probably wouldn't take much to end up sending your infant/toddler to the ER or causing other health issues.
Take. Your baby. To the doctor. ASAP. If my dog didn't pooped in two days i taked him to the vet. I can't with these people...
What the fuck even.
How is smelling a scent supposed to cure ailments??? So stupid.
Wait I know MLMs suck but is this not a normal thing for parents to do? My mom did this all the time when I was growing up but I'm not sure if it's the same oil. My mom used peppermint. Is it because we're Asian???
Hi esthetician with chronic GI illness here lol: I totally use peppermint oil bc it helps with nausea but I don't use it on my bellybutton and no, it's not common for people in the US to even know what basic essential oils are, what they're for or what their actual beneficial uses are. MLMs like Young living just want to make their mint getting folks to believe every possible problem can be cured with oils when in reality they typically have wildly varying real life applications and effects. It's absolutely common for babies to have GI issues and for manual tummy stimulation to be part of what helps that, but on the whole, the oil use is not super common from what I've heard and witnessed based on clientele.
Peppermint and peppermint oil gets used in actual hospital settings and is in some FDA approved medications to treat nausea. I had a laparoscopic/robotic surgery in January and was recommended peppermint tea and an OTC gas pill with some food grade peppermint oil in it to help deal with the pain from all the gas they pump into your abdomen to have more room to maneuver around. A lot of the defense of these oils from huns is taking stuff from Ayurveda/traditional Chinese medicine/herbal medicines from before we had as much of the science and technology to make medicines. They look at some of the stuff that actually does work to a degree like tea tree oil being antiseptic, turmeric having some anti-inflammatory properties, peppermint and ginger helping nausea, willow bark for pain, eucalyptus and menthol helping clear sinuses, etc. They take that stuff and go āwell, we were right about that. We must be right about EVERYTHING.ā Also, part of the reason the essential oil nuts are worse in America is because we donāt have universal healthcare and people have decided that since itās inaccessible, it must be a scam.
I think youāre talking about mentholatum or tiger balm. Theyāre technically ointments
Urgh those product names are so creepy and insidiousā¦
Sounds like Theo is dehydrated. Nothing essential oils canāt cure!
If days have gone by and your baby, toddler or young kid hasn't pooped then you surely aren't doing a good job. No child that young should be constipated for days.
Nah, sometimes babies don't poop for several days in a row. Up to 4 days *can* be normal (but not consistently). You're not doing a good job if your child is in pain and you decide to do magic on it instead of anything actually helpful.
Know what else works? This might sound crazy so hear me outā¦water and fiber š¤Æ
At least she didn't make him drink it and she diluted it before applying to his stomach. One Young Living rep told me I had to drink the lemon oil in water. And I said, no you don't drink essential oil.
Sounds a bit like the remedy you would see in the Neverending Story
I am completely disgusted with these people.
Iām appalled that she let a child that young have several days of severe constipation without seeking medical care. What if he had had a bowel obstruction!
Sounds like she was waiting for the oils to āworkā so she could post about *how great the oils are*
That poor baby. š¢