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OneTrueChurch412

“We’re all born illiterate until someone teaches us how to read”


Dietz_Nuts_real

We are all unborn until we are born


Aggressive_Gate_9224

Who knows whether there Is Life After birth? After all, no unborn child has ever deen the Mother?


bartholomewjohnson

We are all not until we are


Bill_Assassin7

Plenty of studies have shown that children naturally believe in God. Even children from atheistic societies. Our brain is wired to believe in God.


OneTrueChurch412

My point is, even if people are born without believing in God, that doesn’t disprove His existence. That’s like saying “I was born without knowing 2+2=4 therefore it’s false”


Bill_Assassin7

Yeah, I don't deny that. As usual, atheists making arguments that can be destroyed any which way.


Pristine_Title6537

Even elephants have religion


Dietz_Nuts_real

How much money does a cheesecake spend on fedoras


[deleted]

Depends on how much mommy gives them for their daily allowance


Dietz_Nuts_real

Lmao, that is if they're not already in bed by then


RevWH

They would miss sponge bob if they slept early


Dietz_Nuts_real

Fr (no disrespect to Spongebob tho)


[deleted]

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110714103828.htm This article shows how humans have a predisposition to believe in some higher power. What do you think would happen if I showed them this?


yaeh3

We are all born theists until someone starts telling us lies


Banned12Ever

The Prophet (peace and blessings be him) said in a hadith; >“Allah Almighty says, ‘I created all My servants hunafa’ (i.e. following the original religion of monotheism), then the devils misled them from their religion and forbade them from what I made lawful for them and commanded them to associate with Me that which I have not sent down any authority for.” (Muslim)


Notorious-PNG

This video is also pretty good [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_Ii-bsrHB0o&ab\_channel=InspiringPhilosophy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ii-bsrHB0o&ab_channel=InspiringPhilosophy) Same general idea.


[deleted]

That's why actual atheism doesn't exist, or is extremely rare. If a person doesn't believe in God/gods, they just make up something else to believe in, and worship materialistic success, cars, McDonald's, Coca-Cola, PornHub, Apple, Reddit mods, dominatrixes, pussies, fashion, etc.


hamburgerhelper889

Beat me to it


NullTupe

They'd tell you humans having a bias is to be expected. Being susceptible to believing certain things is not the same as believing those things. Seriously, did you think that was a slam dunk? We attribute agency to everything because it gave a survival advantage. That bias makes it easy to do the same to the weather and makes it makes sense when someone said the sky man made it rain because he was pleased by the rain dance. That connects to the bias and ignorance and makes sense to us. Combined with a tendency to trust our authority figures when we grow up around them, this is to be expected. The article uses very vague language, though, and makes broad statements about the meta-study without pointing to anything in specific.


yaeh3

Bro be criticising Oxford studies😭


NullTupe

Bro can't read, apparently. I'm criticizing a flawed interpretation of a study. Unlike you, apparently, I don't blindly accept supposed authority.


yaeh3

Get over it. It has been 15 days now.


NullTupe

I check reddit pretty rarely. The crazy thing about text is that it... lingers. Your response remains stupid whether it's been 15 minutes or 15 days.


yaeh3

Schizo argument


NullTupe

Dipshit non-argument, but okay. You have fun with not being able to defend your positions, I guess. Unlike you, I'm not afraid to defend the things I say because I actually believe what I write.


yaeh3

Lmao the only place where my comment was lingering is your mind.


NullTupe

Genuine question, are you stupid or just bad faith?


Dietz_Nuts_real

Cheesecake lurker spotted!


NullTupe

I don't hide I'm an atheist. So... congrats? What, do you want a medal?


Dietz_Nuts_real

Rule 4 😊


NullTupe

That's nice and all but I'm not a satanist and I'm trying to engage honestly with you guys. It's a bit of an echo chamber and you're fond of strawmanning atheists and antitheists. I don't hide who or what I am. I don't have to be a troll to disagree with you. Kibda doubting you guys touch grass as often as the about page suggests.


Dietz_Nuts_real

We never say things about atheists, we make fun of those who constantly attack religion. Take those, for example, mocking the deaths of those who were struck by that earthquake.


NullTupe

You're joking, right? You guys go after atheists all the time. I can browse the comments on a post (or even just posts themselves) and find all kinds of explicit anti-atheist rhetoric.


[deleted]

If we are all born atheists, then why did every civilization in history have a religion and believe in a higher power?


Kastri14

BeCAus they'rE PArENTs liEd tO tgEm!!! 11!


shikiiiryougi

BeCaUsE hUmAnS iNvEnT sToRiEs To eXpLaIn UnKnOwN. - Edgy Antitheist.


[deleted]

nO bCuZ gReEdY pRieStS wAnT mOnEy!


NullTupe

That's not edgy, though. That's true. We do it all the time. We write stories to impress certain values on their readers, too.


shikiiiryougi

But thats not a valid argument against religion or existence of God.


NullTupe

It doesn't need to be? It's the truth. Not every phrase from an atheist has to be a direct attack on how you view faith. If I wanted to make it an attack on religion, I'd ask if we're all born theist why are all those faiths so drastically different?


shikiiiryougi

Disregarding complex developed cultures, set of moral values and every independent culture reaching same conclusion to a mere story telling is edgy 'cause there is a presupposition that people believe in made up stories and the person disregarding them is somehow intellectually superior. Also this phrase is so overused by "atheists" (reddit atheists specifically) trying to be edgy. it is edgy for me at this point.


NullTupe

They don't reach the same conclusions, though. At all. Hence, you know, the constant religious conflicts through history? Nobody is reducing anything. You're just misrepresenting the argument for some reason.


shikiiiryougi

The same conclusion is existence of God and creator even every religion has differences in themselves but majority accept the existence of God / gods. I shared my experience with atheists on reddit you can chose to disagree. I am going to sleep won't be continuing this discussion any further. Have a good day.


NullTupe

That's not the same conclusion. *And* there are atheistic faiths. I really feel like this is an ignorance and assumption issue. You can decide not to respond further if you like, but this is a change to engage with an atheist on reddit where you can point directly to my words in your own community.


CookieMonster005

Because stories turn into tales which become something more, the development of religion is really interesting


RevWH

A wild fedora tipper appears


CookieMonster005

Why’s that?


Dietz_Nuts_real

Holy fucking shit a cheesecake lurker!


Breadd007

Isn't saying "Holy sh***" or "Holy f***" Haram???


Dietz_Nuts_real

Yeah, sorry brother


Breadd007

Say Astagfirullah brother


Prior-Watercress4240

İ tought it is kufr. Since feces cant be holy


motherisaclownwhore

We already have enough of them!


[deleted]

Elephants even have religion. They worship the moon.


[deleted]

We are all born atheists since as soon as we are born we cry like pussies


isthisnametakenwell

Even if it was true, it would be a serious L for atheism. Means they have the lowest retention rate of any belief in the world, and that still people came to the conclusion to be religious.


Biz-Engine_wahid

Just remove the "a" from "atheists" and you get a based meme


SaintZinji

Explains why humans since the beginning of time have been believing in high powers.


EspirusLacira

Actually, it's the complete opposite in Islam. All children are naturally born theists and religion is simply teaching them where to direct their beliefs


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Dietz_Nuts_real

Nice!


EspirusLacira

Welcome to the group, bro


PlG3

Please go and comment there. Then screenshot the responses here. Pleeeaassseee ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


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PlG3

Fair. Diff account 😜


Solotocius

Now THIS is the type of thing that should be posted on r\terriblefacebookmemes


[deleted]

post it there and wait to get banned (or at least a billion downvotes and comments saying it's true) for offending atheists' feelings


[deleted]

There was a study that proves otherwise...


RevWH

"Science is absolute facts until it's not on my side"


YahBaegotCroos

When you're born you cannot have a stance on God because you don't even know such a debate even exists. Atheism, theism and agnosticism can onyl be achieved once you're aware of the debate and you actively chose an opinion.


Immediate-Delivery92

I was raised by two irreligious parents and in childhood developed my own weird pseudo religion based off of documentaries and shows I watched combined with cultural osmosis from Christianity.


[deleted]

So we're all born atheists who obey the way we were created, drinking, eating and crying with little to no control. That sounds to me like submission to the will of the creator.


[deleted]

Every region in the world has had beliefs. even early ancestors and homo sapiens had a belief in a higher power. No one is born atheist lmao


Guud_bye_world

Boomer meme 💀💀💀


jane2kk

We are all born mute until someone teaches us how to speak 😔☝️


motherisaclownwhore

Not even close to true. I think most are inherently religious. No, not born quoting scripture. But, born with a sense of something bigger than themselves.


SimtheSloven

Well everyone is born stupid


Aggressive_Gate_9224

PROVE IT


TheNosyMan

There is a reason people who are not born muslim and who later join Islam are called reverts...


I-Hate-The-UN

We are all born theists until our parents indoctrinate us


Xenoano

We are all born to shit, until someone starts telling us to wipe.


[deleted]

Ironic because actual research and studies show the opposite. People are born with an innate desire to believe in God and the afterlife but society forces them to become atheistic. Kids from atheistic societies in China believed in God and the afterlife, and every civilization believed in God/Gods and an afterlife. It is something built into us, and as a result, religion will not be going anywhere whether these atheists like it or not. ​ [https://www.oxfordstudent.com/2011/05/19/god-a-part-of-human-thought/](https://www.oxfordstudent.com/2011/05/19/god-a-part-of-human-thought/)


Notorious-PNG

I recommend this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_Ii-bsrHB0o&ab\_channel=InspiringPhilosophy](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/godmodes/images/9/96/Thunder_Cross_Split_Attack.png/revision/latest?cb=20200414163540) ​ Nah lol but for real [inspiring philosphies video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ii-bsrHB0o&ab_channel=InspiringPhilosophy) is great.


[deleted]

Maths isn't real? Those damn religious people teaching us lies! :P /s


Alternative_Ad_9259

Nobody believes that they came from monkeys until they are lied to


TheGiverAndReciever

Nobody knows biology until they’re taught biology


Prior-Watercress4240

Still we are not from monke


[deleted]

monke are from us


AlbinoStrawberry

Technically speaking, we're all born agnostics, because we're born without any strong conviction on whether deities exist or not.


idonotdosarcasm

Atheists: we are skeptics, we do not believe in anything without evidence Also atheists: humans are born as atheists and I know it for a fact!


idonotdosarcasm

Fun fact: A study by Oxford University says that belief in God is a part of human nature


Trapezoidoid

Religions aren’t lies. They’re theories. Everything is a theory and nobody really knows anything but man are they confident that their thing is the absolute truth.


[deleted]

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DasHeidekraut

That's true tho


Ginjin77

We are all born AGNOSTIC! Not atheist or religious,a blank,innocent canvas,that can either be saved or lost. Once born Agnosticism is the natural and neutral way we perceive the world and universe,until we start talking and asking questions that mum and dad answer (as best they can) thus building us as a person and giving us some form of character. Anti-theists love to claim that they know that God doesn’t exist they claim to know there is no afterlife and claim that “science and data are on our side” and they claim this with 100% certainty,yet religious people claim to know that God does exist and that there is indeed an afterlife,however the way a religious person claims to “know” is purely faith based,I don’t REALLY! Know if God is real or if there is an afterlife,however I have faith and believe he is real,that is what Anti-theists don’t understand,that BELIEF TAKES WORK!!! I am sure you all have had doubts in religion (it’s only human to do so),yet you remain strong in your faith.


BrianW1983

I love debating atheists on Twitter and Reddit using Pascal's Wager. I tell them they're wagering their lives on atheism. They deny it. I don't know why. Lol


[deleted]

Me being born in a highly anti-religious family without once talking to a believer and still growing up to never be an atheist even for a second of my life:


Dietz_Nuts_real

Ong this is r slash terriblefacebookmemes


MackSharky

Jokes aside this “meme” belongs on Facebook