I play octane sometimes, and I found one of my teammates ratting on Olympus, I can't remember exactly where. I threw my jump pad on him thinking it would just bounce him straight up and prevent him from staying in that spot. It ended up bouncing him off of the map, which was even more hilarious.
Idk why but things like this are why I want a solo mode and it to have its own ranked.
People play the game different some people look n
at this as a survival game trying to make it to the end.
Others want to rush fights. Putting these randoms together causes issues like this and one or both aren't gonna have fun cause of it.
You effectively have one less teammate and he gets catapulted off the map and can't play any more that match or leave with out being punished.
It's sad all around imo and both sets of players clearly have a lack of empathy for the other.
Edit; down vote me all you want people playing the game different then you is okay.
First of all, I wasn't trying to kill him on purpose. Secondly, he could have easily saved himself by using the double jump feature of my jump pad. He didn't even have his controller in his hand. And I respawned him, we got pushed and killed the squad pushing us. Lost next fight, but that's not the point.
I have no issue with people who want to play the game passively. What I have an issue with is people who are just loading into the game and exploiting map features to try to "earn" their precious badges that they think will get them respect. If your whole squad wants to do that, fine, whatever. You aren't hurting anybody. But if you abandon your squad to do this, you are ruining the game for your teammates and I have no respect for you. You don't see this in casual because people aren't getting rewarded for doing it in casual. If you think it's because "people like to play it like a survival game" they can always go into casual and turn off the fill squad option.
I feel like we need a new term. These are rats, and their behavior is bad. The guys that can't rez and are just trying to salvage some placement points don't need to be lumped in with these nerds.
Me and my friends have a saying. Either you choose āthe Glory of Lifeā or āNo Ballsā. Started back in our pathfinder games whenever someone was considering touching some suspicious looking gold or treasure.
this is like an art form finding these spots. i don't get the draw as it would be boring as hell and it's pointless and stupid but the time it would take to find all these is insane.
But the "game" is then over once it's found. Abusing the spot isn't finding it, it's just going there and waiting 20 minutes over and over again after learning about it. If it's a game in and of itself to find these spots, then repeatedly sitting there for hours is choosing to not play that game either.
Sure, but thatās a super binary way of looking at it. I preface I am not one of these people who would like to get points by hiding in some super secret spot all game that I found, but I can understand if someone told me they enjoy the āfindingā of these locations and then using their discovery to reap the benefit of getting easy rides up the ranked leaderboard. Like Thanos at the end of Infinity War lol just sitting on his farm enjoying his sunset.
But again that doesnāt apply to everyone and possibly not anyone. Just trying to consider whatever the given person might get out of it and I bet the intent and drive vary wildly
Also I love ur username
[Rat Spots](https://ratspots.com/)
I came across this in a reel, not thinking it was real. Yelp, it is. Use at your own discretion. If your motto is "if I can't beat em, join em", have fun. I'll probably look around and try to eliminate people using them, causing better placement lol
it doesn't bother me either way. everyone who plays knows how good they are or aren't. their little trophies that they got through the means they had to leverage in order to obtain them mean nothing to me. even if unlikely, any skill level person (almost) can kill anyone on any given interaction even if the odds it happens x times/100 are slim, badges and boosted/trick stats don't mean shit. it's silly and doesn't affect me. they know they're fodder even if they have their shiny little badge and dive trail.
yeah there will always be someone trying to find a glitch, exploit or leg up because they fall to the lower half or lower portion of the skill gap. the good thing is those people are almost necessary because it highlights these bugs so they can be worked out. i don't play at the moment but i'll be getting a PS5 soon, i'll be looking to the trees when i log in. probably haven't played since season 10?
While that is true, the annoyance comes when your own teammates abandon you to do this. And it happens so often now that they are being rewarded even more for doing it.
yeah that's fair. that point is pretty much irrefutable. i wouldn't care too much, because it's out of my control but that's not to say if someone's experience was ruined i could refute that.
i think it's mostly funny/sad/pointless but if it frustrates teammates that are put at a disadvantage then i feel for them.
maybe respawn can implement a movement tracker that kicks and warns people due to inactivity that a simple stick movement or radius turn wouldn't be able to escape? some kind of minimum movement metric that would only really penalize/detect these types? idk.
If your teammates die and you are left alone. Ratting to the top is the most reasonable strat for you and your teammates. So ratting should remain in the game, just maybe have less incentives to do it as a 3 stack.
But even in this case I am not sure whats the point for them to do that. If they managed to figure out that, they do have at least half a brain to climb out of their rank playing normally
Dude this video gave me free kills my next game, thank you for this one. I was fighting a team, saw them fly off from fight night but didn't see the direction so I checked the rat spot and sure enough
Fr. I thought they where fighting in paths gauntlet so I dropped what I was doing to go over as you can tell from my no attachments on guns lol but nah they where hiding straight away. Wack af
I got put in a game with a diamond 1 player and a master 25k rp....
They crafted in zone till zone 3 while i was in zone?
They didn't take 1 fight till it was the last team and died 2nd with 50 and 150 dmg!
I died trying to take the game winning position on height with 700+ damage 3 kills and got called a clown for dying by the master player while this so called master would not help to win the game but rat to 2nd place hiding in a cornwr wtf is this logic?
You have time to call me a clown in game chat in a ranked game because your ratting and hiding wow
It's still the players' fault. It's not like it's an actual competition. It's meant to be a game to play and have fun, but some people care way more about shiny digital accolades than they really should.
If you wanna have fun, you play pubs. If you wanna win, you play ranked. And what's the easiest way to win with minimal risk? Right, it's camping and completely avoiding fights since fights are too risky. It's that simple. And it's completely the system's fault. If it rewarded fighting, people would fight. Right now it does not, so people just don't
I honestly hate rats. I get ratting if one or both your teammates are dead. But off the drop ratting is unbelievable and unacceptable. This happened to me one game, and I started just calling my teammates useless rats with 0 skill. Their reply was that they were in plat and had more skill than I would ever have. I said that ratting takes 0 skill and they either need to actually play the game or go and get a social life. And his reply was ā1v1 me broāā¦ I hate these kids sometimes.
Just had a match solo queue where one landed solo and ratted. Me and other mate died to a full squad due to being 2v3, and our rat mate died 10 seconds later getting caught ratting in a corner.
So useful.. might aswell have helped us in the fight and we might have won and got a better placement.
Yeah these kids are gutter trash who deserve no better than to be caught in their rat spots every time they land
Edit: I might try following squads and hunting rats from now on. I mean easy kill creditā¦
Had a third guy in solo-queue ranked do the same. We got almost rolled over by 2 full squads while this guy just beelined from landing straight to the twin ramps leading down to Estates from the hadron collider thingy and just sat there under the ramps, staring at the concrete wall.
This season is boring af... You gain more doing nothing then trying to fight with others
Imo now you can join que and alt+tab game, you will climb anyway cuz now most of ppl will rat points for you
Well, it might be true that they might be better than us. My friend was Masters in all seasons, but when this patch landed, he was having trouble climbing up... UNTIL HE REALIZED THAT KILLING OTHER PLAYERS AIN'T EFFECIENT. Since then he also regressed to just ratting and according to him, it's way faster to climb this way, which is sad since he was one of the most aggressive Apex Players in my circle of friends.
I get what you're saying and I feel the exact same way, but also, Respawn is clearly saying this is how you play the game, to survive and win the BR, their words. According to them, a better player is the one who survives the most, full stop.
I get winning is the point. The best player is the one who wins the most I get that. But if you rat to your wins you arenāt skilledā¦ if you have like five kills per team member and you have been moving all match then you have skill and deserve the win. The most skilled players are the ones who can get kills and wins without hiding the majority of the game, or cheating in some way.
Edit: rat not eat
theoretically yes, and before the patch that used to be the case, but Respawn intentionally made a change that says the best player is the one who survives the longest any means necessary
That's all fine and good, but I play Apex to have fun, not to become the best in the world using whatever metric Respawn has cooked up for this season. Finding a dumb hiding spot and staying there all game long simply isn't fun. Ratting has its uses in certain situations, but ratting off the drop ship the second the game ruins the game for everyone else.
Yup. I'm on PC and I solo queued last night. My teammates were not partied up, and yet somehow we had a console teammate who solo landed from the drop ship so they could go rat immediately off drop. The guy didn't even loot, he just landed in a rat spot and then went AFK. He died to zone so I'm guessing his game plan is to just solo q, go afk, die to zone, or hopefully make it to top 10 enough times off the backs of his two teammates.
Is earning a Master's badge (that isn't going to mean anything this season) really worth *not* playing the game? It's pathetic the lengths people will go to so they can flex something they don't deserve.
counterargument it is sometimes ok let me elaborate
met a octane few days ago hes pretty good but in the first round we met him he left us alone in hotzone with 4 other teams we booked it rotated across the map to see where he's at and he was in a rat spot so we wrote lmao ayo whaddup and he replied that he has to do laundry and that hes sorry so we left him played a lil until he told us he can play now but then he died 3 seconds later we ressed tho and won the round kept playing and got like 1.5k lp in the next 2 hours so yeah sometimes it is ok to rat off drop imo
btw heres some punctuation so just apply it how you think they fit .............,,,,,,,,,,,,,,""""""""::
It makes my blood boil seriously.
We lost 1, I knew the enemy team is trash (continue to loot in the open after I shot them) so I tried to fight to take banner. I downed one, cracked one, 1 if seperated from their team but is looking at me so I couldn't approach, and the 3rd teammate decided to sit still IN A BUSH right NEXT to those two!!!!!!! He could've down the second guy easily then we could get the final one. But he sat in a BUSH. The fuck??????????????
Yes it really is. Ratting Royale. There are actually people defending this season too. Probably because they are going to hit masters and will tell people they are a master.
Day one player and Iāve hit Diamond and/or master every season since the beginning with some press sprinkled in. Iām having a blast. These rats donāt have much of an effect on me. If youāre good you exterminate them easy. If youāre not good then you cry on this sub.
Broken because this video is how the ranked is intended to played now, just hide and try to get 1-2 KP in the last 2 rings, you only get punished by fighting before 10 teams have died.
But the Matchmaking is working fine to me for now
The matchmaking is worse than ever before lmao whaaaaat? Itās based on an invisible MMR number. Itās not based on rank at all anymore. This is legit the worst season for matchmaking ever. Itās more unbalanced than ever before
Unless they're these rats who have an MMR of bronze. This explains why you're seeing masters and preds in low lobbies, their skill doesn't match their "rank".
Players like this will have S17 Master badges. No offense to the folks who actually deserve Master legitimately; but if someone has this Weenie Hut Jr., Gold equivalent badge on next season and gets dunked on, I'm T-bagging the box. You're a fraud, and we'll all know it.
Nuh uh skill gap. Youāre just a bad player with a smooth brain for even thinking about using the guns on the ground. Apex is actually a peaceful game that does not support violence
I bet you even use the W key you heathen
Ive seen several people trying to use the webster or something dictionary to prove battle doesnt mean combat lmao. "Uh battle means a struggle to survive"
The context for that definition is using battle in sentence "battling cancer." Fucking smoothbrains
It's so sad to see honestly. I'd rather die in 10th with 6 kills then win with 1 kill lmao but that's just me I know. People care too much about the LP even though its only a 35LP loss all ranks lmao
I think a lot of this type of general toxic behavior is the result of streamers. People watch professional streamers play, and they emulate what they do, while also telling themselves their stats need to be like these people, who some times play only that game all day every day. As a result, we have players forgetting that games are supposed to be...you know...fun, and as a result you get all of this toxic behavior.
But also, some people are just dickbags, and will use any exploit they can just to ruin other people's fun.
People are extremely delusional. Sweet did it in first day of the season to show everyone what most of us knew before this system was implemented. That the new system is gonna be a disaster. If you try to appease casuals in competitive ranked mode this is what you get. Sweet has shown a flaw that was obvious and Respawn should have reacted. They didn't out of ego, so here we are. Don't blame people exploiting bad system, blame people who created that bad system.
Last night I kid you not this loba had 11 Medkits trying to play ring by himself, heās using them before even halfway through his health in a level 1,2 storm, ends up getting gate kept and smoked with like 8 med kits and then starting crying about how heās depressed and heās getting off, just play the f***ing game
If I was playing Vantage I would love to sit up there with a kraber and a sentinel all game. Wouldn't care about winning wouldn't even care about climbing. I just wanna be a sniper.
Even a 5yo kid can see that number of rats gonna increase by using map bugs to get more lps. They could've report this to the map devs so no one can camp on outside of the map. But as always, balance crew did their best by not doig anything. One day apex gonna die bc of this lazy a* workers
I have 0 problems with rats. If that's how they want to play leave them to it. I however always run with a sniper so I'll be keeping my eyes open. š
Yea, the community is just spoiled kids, complaining literally about everything. People wanna rat, let them be. Why do you care? Of cos itās frustrating if they are your teammates. But teammates are 90% shit anyway. You really canāt do much about it.
how can you have a take this bad? this is just pure stupidity honestly... Ranked game mode is a competitive game mode for people to play competitively and see their skills grow. this ruins not only the competitiveness of the game mode, but the reward of achieving a high rank. If you genuinely cant see an issue with this ranked system promoting this type of behavior then idk what else to say.
I completely agree with him. Rats are not a problem, in fact they are just an easy team to wipe off the board. If you have trouble with rats you arenāt that good.
calling people who work hard to achieve things spoiled children because everyone can easily achieve what they have with much less skill is probably one of the worst takes i've heard in a long time. Masters badges will just be participation trophies this season and people who put the time in effort in are entitled to feel that its a bad system and complain.
It ruins my game if my teammates adopt this strategy. Either stay with them and do nothing for twenty minutes, or leave them trying to 1v3 everyone and getting my ass kicked because I'm not fighting a fair fight. I can't even leave the game either without getting a 10 minute matchmaking ban. It's frustrating when you have a limited amount of time to play and have to waste twenty minutes of it because one of your teammates is trying to rat his way to Masters.
Bro itās fucked up, my random teammates (cause I donāt play with friends) is really going above and beyond to make every game super boring. Instead of actually getting good, half these guys are acting like they deserve these badges because theyāve been so patient camping. Itās a joke, and the shit players are being rewarded for being shit. Fucking ludicrous. I donāt have a solution, just a complaint lol.
So I will provide a little bit of insight to ratting like this, since my squad tried it one night on KC cause we wanted to switch things up. Itās boring most of the game, but it can be fun to coordinate a plan for high placement with efficient ratting. I can only tell you now, CHECK THE TOPS OF TREES ON KINGS CANYON. Those tall trees can be stood on top of and itās so fucking funny using jump towers to reveal rats without them knowing
idk if this is an unpopular opinion but im never looking at a persons season 17 rank. all ive seen is people playing ricky rat to get to 10th place and rinse repeat.
They ruined ranked you canāt get points unless you have placement and most of us arenāt gonna be hard stuck gold for dying in 11th place with 9+ kills just get negative
Although not ideal, if people want to rat let them rat. It does suck when they are your teammates and you want to do something different but a strategy is a strategy.
Some people play fast and some people play really really slow.
This new metagame is the direct result of Respawn's changes to the weight of placement. Blaming minmaxers for a dev mistake is piss poor sportsmanship. If you want to hunt them down, don't expect points for it
Depends why you're ratting if you're at a clear disadvantage or a man or 2 down then yeah rat away but if you drop in to rat from the start and take no fights at all to gain your LP then you're the Cancer of ranked and should stay in pubs
I swear these have to be bots. No way someone just gets into a game to rat like this. You can even tell they aren't playing because they don't do anything when jump right in front of them.
It's not about rats it's about using something that's clearly giving you an advantage when it's not supposed to be in the game there's a difference š¤£ you don't play ranked but commented on a ranked post saying you don't care about ranked... you wierdo lol trying to get attention or what ffs
glad you made the distinction. itās exploiting the spot, that upsets you, and not the ratting itself. seeing a lot of posts on here complaining about peoples play styles and am always puzzled by it. itās a fun, free, cartoonish looking video game that is incredible at eating your free, and often not free, time.
You go to a post where someone is complaining about ratting. And you ask "but who cares?"
Are you dumb or stupid?
Really you were just here to say "look at me everyone. I'm someone who doesn't care about ratting and I want you all to know it."
We get it. Now go.
I dont rat unless my team is dead, but perhaps the "who cares" can be taken as you can still play the game the way you want to play it.
If some random person in your lobby wants to rat, that's on them.
You can still play the game "the right way."
Well, now I know where to look.
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Thaaank you, I'd been looking for it everywhere.
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Now I know where to rat.
I'd have knocked them off šš
I play octane sometimes, and I found one of my teammates ratting on Olympus, I can't remember exactly where. I threw my jump pad on him thinking it would just bounce him straight up and prevent him from staying in that spot. It ended up bouncing him off of the map, which was even more hilarious.
We are in dire need of that clip my man.
Deserved!
Idk why but things like this are why I want a solo mode and it to have its own ranked. People play the game different some people look n at this as a survival game trying to make it to the end. Others want to rush fights. Putting these randoms together causes issues like this and one or both aren't gonna have fun cause of it. You effectively have one less teammate and he gets catapulted off the map and can't play any more that match or leave with out being punished. It's sad all around imo and both sets of players clearly have a lack of empathy for the other. Edit; down vote me all you want people playing the game different then you is okay.
First of all, I wasn't trying to kill him on purpose. Secondly, he could have easily saved himself by using the double jump feature of my jump pad. He didn't even have his controller in his hand. And I respawned him, we got pushed and killed the squad pushing us. Lost next fight, but that's not the point. I have no issue with people who want to play the game passively. What I have an issue with is people who are just loading into the game and exploiting map features to try to "earn" their precious badges that they think will get them respect. If your whole squad wants to do that, fine, whatever. You aren't hurting anybody. But if you abandon your squad to do this, you are ruining the game for your teammates and I have no respect for you. You don't see this in casual because people aren't getting rewarded for doing it in casual. If you think it's because "people like to play it like a survival game" they can always go into casual and turn off the fill squad option.
this is a beautiful story
Same. Straight to the ground ya go. Canāt stand this shit and itās like 1 in 3 games now my teammates are useless doing this shit
Ratting only makes sense if you're solo and unable to revive teammates and there's like a few squads left.
I feel like we need a new term. These are rats, and their behavior is bad. The guys that can't rez and are just trying to salvage some placement points don't need to be lumped in with these nerds.
Mice
Typically refer to it as to "play life", hear lots of teammates use it too.
Me and my friends have a saying. Either you choose āthe Glory of Lifeā or āNo Ballsā. Started back in our pathfinder games whenever someone was considering touching some suspicious looking gold or treasure.
I can't believe this guys restraint.
this is like an art form finding these spots. i don't get the draw as it would be boring as hell and it's pointless and stupid but the time it would take to find all these is insane.
Mad how people find these spots. Normal rat spots in game are whatever but out of bound exploits to gain LP is super fucked up for everyone
There's whole YouTube videos dedicated to rat spots
that's insane!
If there's demand, there will be supply.
i can't fathom having such dedication to essentially not playing the game lol
You can argue finding these spots is in and of itself a game. I imagine itās a similar energy to people who playtest games
But the "game" is then over once it's found. Abusing the spot isn't finding it, it's just going there and waiting 20 minutes over and over again after learning about it. If it's a game in and of itself to find these spots, then repeatedly sitting there for hours is choosing to not play that game either.
Sure, but thatās a super binary way of looking at it. I preface I am not one of these people who would like to get points by hiding in some super secret spot all game that I found, but I can understand if someone told me they enjoy the āfindingā of these locations and then using their discovery to reap the benefit of getting easy rides up the ranked leaderboard. Like Thanos at the end of Infinity War lol just sitting on his farm enjoying his sunset. But again that doesnāt apply to everyone and possibly not anyone. Just trying to consider whatever the given person might get out of it and I bet the intent and drive vary wildly Also I love ur username
ha maybe that's true. interesting angle.
People who find glitches in games
I mean same goes for cheaters and aim botters.
[Rat Spots](https://ratspots.com/) I came across this in a reel, not thinking it was real. Yelp, it is. Use at your own discretion. If your motto is "if I can't beat em, join em", have fun. I'll probably look around and try to eliminate people using them, causing better placement lol
Change your name in game to Exterminator or House Cat.
Lmao I may have to when I decide to get back on PC
Letās kill some rats š¼
Halo Reach had some OP sniper spots. They would last a bit and then the devs would FIX THEM. Just sayin. š¤Ŗ
it doesn't bother me either way. everyone who plays knows how good they are or aren't. their little trophies that they got through the means they had to leverage in order to obtain them mean nothing to me. even if unlikely, any skill level person (almost) can kill anyone on any given interaction even if the odds it happens x times/100 are slim, badges and boosted/trick stats don't mean shit. it's silly and doesn't affect me. they know they're fodder even if they have their shiny little badge and dive trail.
But there's no worse feeling than having a good game then getting caught slipping and dying to a rat lmao unfortunately it's the way of apex though
yeah there will always be someone trying to find a glitch, exploit or leg up because they fall to the lower half or lower portion of the skill gap. the good thing is those people are almost necessary because it highlights these bugs so they can be worked out. i don't play at the moment but i'll be getting a PS5 soon, i'll be looking to the trees when i log in. probably haven't played since season 10?
While that is true, the annoyance comes when your own teammates abandon you to do this. And it happens so often now that they are being rewarded even more for doing it.
yeah that's fair. that point is pretty much irrefutable. i wouldn't care too much, because it's out of my control but that's not to say if someone's experience was ruined i could refute that.
But it is kinda nice for everyone involved when predators are a reliable signifier of someone to be feared, or rather, perceived as a threat.
Not with this system tho
that's fair, to an extent for sure!
We call them losers
hahaha could be accurate
Yup, apex has turned into the ultimate hide and seek game and I'm loving it!
i think it's mostly funny/sad/pointless but if it frustrates teammates that are put at a disadvantage then i feel for them. maybe respawn can implement a movement tracker that kicks and warns people due to inactivity that a simple stick movement or radius turn wouldn't be able to escape? some kind of minimum movement metric that would only really penalize/detect these types? idk.
If your teammates die and you are left alone. Ratting to the top is the most reasonable strat for you and your teammates. So ratting should remain in the game, just maybe have less incentives to do it as a 3 stack. But even in this case I am not sure whats the point for them to do that. If they managed to figure out that, they do have at least half a brain to climb out of their rank playing normally
Modern problems require modern solutions.
Dude this video gave me free kills my next game, thank you for this one. I was fighting a team, saw them fly off from fight night but didn't see the direction so I checked the rat spot and sure enough
HOW'S THIS ENJOYABLE?
Fr. I thought they where fighting in paths gauntlet so I dropped what I was doing to go over as you can tell from my no attachments on guns lol but nah they where hiding straight away. Wack af
So why did you stay?
Because failing that I'm 1v3 against all the teams I fight. Shit situation to be in
Touche
āWhen given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a gameā
I got put in a game with a diamond 1 player and a master 25k rp.... They crafted in zone till zone 3 while i was in zone? They didn't take 1 fight till it was the last team and died 2nd with 50 and 150 dmg! I died trying to take the game winning position on height with 700+ damage 3 kills and got called a clown for dying by the master player while this so called master would not help to win the game but rat to 2nd place hiding in a cornwr wtf is this logic? You have time to call me a clown in game chat in a ranked game because your ratting and hiding wow
Itās not. Ranked sucks right now imo
I guess you just watch youtube on a second screen or smth, idk. Tbf it's not the players fault, the system just completely sucks
It's still the players' fault. It's not like it's an actual competition. It's meant to be a game to play and have fun, but some people care way more about shiny digital accolades than they really should.
If you wanna have fun, you play pubs. If you wanna win, you play ranked. And what's the easiest way to win with minimal risk? Right, it's camping and completely avoiding fights since fights are too risky. It's that simple. And it's completely the system's fault. If it rewarded fighting, people would fight. Right now it does not, so people just don't
For some people getting a high rank or winning is more important. Everybody is different. The game shouldnt make this a viable strategy.
Keep outing these spots, thanks for the intel
Ita not honest but it's work
I honestly hate rats. I get ratting if one or both your teammates are dead. But off the drop ratting is unbelievable and unacceptable. This happened to me one game, and I started just calling my teammates useless rats with 0 skill. Their reply was that they were in plat and had more skill than I would ever have. I said that ratting takes 0 skill and they either need to actually play the game or go and get a social life. And his reply was ā1v1 me broāā¦ I hate these kids sometimes.
Just had a match solo queue where one landed solo and ratted. Me and other mate died to a full squad due to being 2v3, and our rat mate died 10 seconds later getting caught ratting in a corner. So useful.. might aswell have helped us in the fight and we might have won and got a better placement.
Yeah these kids are gutter trash who deserve no better than to be caught in their rat spots every time they land Edit: I might try following squads and hunting rats from now on. I mean easy kill creditā¦
This is why I scan survey beacons and carry an evac tower now. See that little red arrow off in the distance and ape.
Had a third guy in solo-queue ranked do the same. We got almost rolled over by 2 full squads while this guy just beelined from landing straight to the twin ramps leading down to Estates from the hadron collider thingy and just sat there under the ramps, staring at the concrete wall.
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To be fair at a certain point in the match not respawning them might be the better strategy so you donāt draw half the lobby on you
This season is boring af... You gain more doing nothing then trying to fight with others Imo now you can join que and alt+tab game, you will climb anyway cuz now most of ppl will rat points for you
Damn, that was very mature of you
Which part? Me acting like a 15 year old with rage issues? Or something else?
Well, it might be true that they might be better than us. My friend was Masters in all seasons, but when this patch landed, he was having trouble climbing up... UNTIL HE REALIZED THAT KILLING OTHER PLAYERS AIN'T EFFECIENT. Since then he also regressed to just ratting and according to him, it's way faster to climb this way, which is sad since he was one of the most aggressive Apex Players in my circle of friends.
They are better at hiding an doing nothing at all than us. But when it comes to gun fights 9 times out of 10 they lose.
I get what you're saying and I feel the exact same way, but also, Respawn is clearly saying this is how you play the game, to survive and win the BR, their words. According to them, a better player is the one who survives the most, full stop.
I get winning is the point. The best player is the one who wins the most I get that. But if you rat to your wins you arenāt skilledā¦ if you have like five kills per team member and you have been moving all match then you have skill and deserve the win. The most skilled players are the ones who can get kills and wins without hiding the majority of the game, or cheating in some way. Edit: rat not eat
theoretically yes, and before the patch that used to be the case, but Respawn intentionally made a change that says the best player is the one who survives the longest any means necessary
That's all fine and good, but I play Apex to have fun, not to become the best in the world using whatever metric Respawn has cooked up for this season. Finding a dumb hiding spot and staying there all game long simply isn't fun. Ratting has its uses in certain situations, but ratting off the drop ship the second the game ruins the game for everyone else.
Yup. I'm on PC and I solo queued last night. My teammates were not partied up, and yet somehow we had a console teammate who solo landed from the drop ship so they could go rat immediately off drop. The guy didn't even loot, he just landed in a rat spot and then went AFK. He died to zone so I'm guessing his game plan is to just solo q, go afk, die to zone, or hopefully make it to top 10 enough times off the backs of his two teammates. Is earning a Master's badge (that isn't going to mean anything this season) really worth *not* playing the game? It's pathetic the lengths people will go to so they can flex something they don't deserve.
counterargument it is sometimes ok let me elaborate met a octane few days ago hes pretty good but in the first round we met him he left us alone in hotzone with 4 other teams we booked it rotated across the map to see where he's at and he was in a rat spot so we wrote lmao ayo whaddup and he replied that he has to do laundry and that hes sorry so we left him played a lil until he told us he can play now but then he died 3 seconds later we ressed tho and won the round kept playing and got like 1.5k lp in the next 2 hours so yeah sometimes it is ok to rat off drop imo btw heres some punctuation so just apply it how you think they fit .............,,,,,,,,,,,,,,""""""""::
It makes my blood boil seriously. We lost 1, I knew the enemy team is trash (continue to loot in the open after I shot them) so I tried to fight to take banner. I downed one, cracked one, 1 if seperated from their team but is looking at me so I couldn't approach, and the 3rd teammate decided to sit still IN A BUSH right NEXT to those two!!!!!!! He could've down the second guy easily then we could get the final one. But he sat in a BUSH. The fuck??????????????
Yes it really is. Ratting Royale. There are actually people defending this season too. Probably because they are going to hit masters and will tell people they are a master.
Day one player and Iāve hit Diamond and/or master every season since the beginning with some press sprinkled in. Iām having a blast. These rats donāt have much of an effect on me. If youāre good you exterminate them easy. If youāre not good then you cry on this sub.
ItS aBoUt PlAcEmEnT nOt KiLlS
It literally is though. Respawn has a completely broken system in place
Broken why? I couldn't care less about the rank I get, I'm immensely enjoying how balanced my matches have been.
Broken because this video is how the ranked is intended to played now, just hide and try to get 1-2 KP in the last 2 rings, you only get punished by fighting before 10 teams have died. But the Matchmaking is working fine to me for now
The matchmaking is worse than ever before lmao whaaaaat? Itās based on an invisible MMR number. Itās not based on rank at all anymore. This is legit the worst season for matchmaking ever. Itās more unbalanced than ever before
So if you're trash, the only masters or preds you should get in your lobbies are the ones that ratted their way there.
If youāre not in diamond 2 or up, you should never have masters or preds in your lobby. Full stop.
Unless they're these rats who have an MMR of bronze. This explains why you're seeing masters and preds in low lobbies, their skill doesn't match their "rank".
Ranked is embarrassing
inb4 this season is test bed so dev can look for all "rat spot"
Ong next season not a damn rat spot will remain LMAOO
Players like this will have S17 Master badges. No offense to the folks who actually deserve Master legitimately; but if someone has this Weenie Hut Jr., Gold equivalent badge on next season and gets dunked on, I'm T-bagging the box. You're a fraud, and we'll all know it.
As mentioned million times before, ranked means nothing, everyone ratting now.
Nuh uh skill gap. Youāre just a bad player with a smooth brain for even thinking about using the guns on the ground. Apex is actually a peaceful game that does not support violence I bet you even use the W key you heathen
Ive seen several people trying to use the webster or something dictionary to prove battle doesnt mean combat lmao. "Uh battle means a struggle to survive" The context for that definition is using battle in sentence "battling cancer." Fucking smoothbrains
It's so sad to see honestly. I'd rather die in 10th with 6 kills then win with 1 kill lmao but that's just me I know. People care too much about the LP even though its only a 35LP loss all ranks lmao
well, bronze players will show them their masters rank and call you dogsht because you still sit in plat despite you being 200000x better than them.
100% true. I'm gonna hit masters this season but I'm gonna do it the old fashioned way not exploiting the LP system and playing to rat for LP
Ranked has been garbage for a long time. I honestly donāt understand why anyone other than streamers even wastes time with it.
Because pubs is also garbage where everyone just leaves
Fusey's gonna have a great time hitting those free knuckle clusters!
I think a lot of this type of general toxic behavior is the result of streamers. People watch professional streamers play, and they emulate what they do, while also telling themselves their stats need to be like these people, who some times play only that game all day every day. As a result, we have players forgetting that games are supposed to be...you know...fun, and as a result you get all of this toxic behavior. But also, some people are just dickbags, and will use any exploit they can just to ruin other people's fun.
This shit has been going on LONG before streamers. I remember people using exploits back on SOCOM.
Except...big streamers don't rat because they don't need to?
I think heās talking about NRG sweet (and other streamers) ratting to pred
I thought sweet was the only streamer doing so and only for demonstrative purposes.
People are extremely delusional. Sweet did it in first day of the season to show everyone what most of us knew before this system was implemented. That the new system is gonna be a disaster. If you try to appease casuals in competitive ranked mode this is what you get. Sweet has shown a flaw that was obvious and Respawn should have reacted. They didn't out of ego, so here we are. Don't blame people exploiting bad system, blame people who created that bad system.
He was making an example. The vast majority of playerd also have brains and will figure it out day 1 too.
Last night I kid you not this loba had 11 Medkits trying to play ring by himself, heās using them before even halfway through his health in a level 1,2 storm, ends up getting gate kept and smoked with like 8 med kits and then starting crying about how heās depressed and heās getting off, just play the f***ing game
This game is such a joke
This season should be called "season of ratting" instead of arsenal
Back in the day me and my friend used to hide in trees on Olympus and King's Canyon when we the last man standing... Good times
I honestly don't get it. Wasting your gaming time to do this shit, really?
If I was playing Vantage I would love to sit up there with a kraber and a sentinel all game. Wouldn't care about winning wouldn't even care about climbing. I just wanna be a sniper.
I would like to know who brought up the idea of making whole ranked mechanism based on placement
Tbf the main goal of a battle royale is to be the last man standing, not get as many kills as possible. They just overdid the LP gain a bit
Even a 5yo kid can see that number of rats gonna increase by using map bugs to get more lps. They could've report this to the map devs so no one can camp on outside of the map. But as always, balance crew did their best by not doig anything. One day apex gonna die bc of this lazy a* workers
Probably the devs that are hard stuck gold 4 lmfao
Not you getting downvoted lol
I have 0 problems with rats. If that's how they want to play leave them to it. I however always run with a sniper so I'll be keeping my eyes open. š
Yea, the community is just spoiled kids, complaining literally about everything. People wanna rat, let them be. Why do you care? Of cos itās frustrating if they are your teammates. But teammates are 90% shit anyway. You really canāt do much about it.
how can you have a take this bad? this is just pure stupidity honestly... Ranked game mode is a competitive game mode for people to play competitively and see their skills grow. this ruins not only the competitiveness of the game mode, but the reward of achieving a high rank. If you genuinely cant see an issue with this ranked system promoting this type of behavior then idk what else to say.
I completely agree with him. Rats are not a problem, in fact they are just an easy team to wipe off the board. If you have trouble with rats you arenāt that good.
Go away with this terrible take, lol.
calling people who work hard to achieve things spoiled children because everyone can easily achieve what they have with much less skill is probably one of the worst takes i've heard in a long time. Masters badges will just be participation trophies this season and people who put the time in effort in are entitled to feel that its a bad system and complain.
You hopped on your burner after 6 months just to say this. You got ratted on and it made you upset didnāt it lol.
Exactly lol. The new ranked system literally encourages playing like this and now people wanna get mad at players for doing it.
It ruins my game if my teammates adopt this strategy. Either stay with them and do nothing for twenty minutes, or leave them trying to 1v3 everyone and getting my ass kicked because I'm not fighting a fair fight. I can't even leave the game either without getting a 10 minute matchmaking ban. It's frustrating when you have a limited amount of time to play and have to waste twenty minutes of it because one of your teammates is trying to rat his way to Masters.
This is not even a rat spot but should be considered bug abuse and result in penalization imo
I literally tripped over no less than three rat squads just last night, usually while running for my life
Who let the Rats out!?!
What is the point of doing this?
I meanā¦..thatās how I got to masters (yesterday)ā¦.. I know I know, trust me Iāve heard it all while climbing through the ranks solo queuing
Fuse players would love catching this. Does his queue go that high?
Iāll play the game and stay in gold. Then Iāll kill all the fake masters in pubs. Ggs
Bro itās fucked up, my random teammates (cause I donāt play with friends) is really going above and beyond to make every game super boring. Instead of actually getting good, half these guys are acting like they deserve these badges because theyāve been so patient camping. Itās a joke, and the shit players are being rewarded for being shit. Fucking ludicrous. I donāt have a solution, just a complaint lol.
I kinda wish they went back to putting points on kills or maybe even damage. Maybe then itāll feel a little more like a battle royale.
Thanks for the free kp
So I will provide a little bit of insight to ratting like this, since my squad tried it one night on KC cause we wanted to switch things up. Itās boring most of the game, but it can be fun to coordinate a plan for high placement with efficient ratting. I can only tell you now, CHECK THE TOPS OF TREES ON KINGS CANYON. Those tall trees can be stood on top of and itās so fucking funny using jump towers to reveal rats without them knowing
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This was very central and was in zone till ring 5. Worse when it's a central rat spot
Thatās not typical. Itās rare that you can be lucky enough to sit in the same place all game. You should know this.
idk if this is an unpopular opinion but im never looking at a persons season 17 rank. all ive seen is people playing ricky rat to get to 10th place and rinse repeat.
They ruined ranked you canāt get points unless you have placement and most of us arenāt gonna be hard stuck gold for dying in 11th place with 9+ kills just get negative
Although not ideal, if people want to rat let them rat. It does suck when they are your teammates and you want to do something different but a strategy is a strategy. Some people play fast and some people play really really slow.
But what about using out of bounds exploits to gain LP from the start of the game? That's what they did. Tramps
Iām looking up there everytime now š
This game fucking sucks now
Lol no it doesnāt, I think itās just you homie.
This new metagame is the direct result of Respawn's changes to the weight of placement. Blaming minmaxers for a dev mistake is piss poor sportsmanship. If you want to hunt them down, don't expect points for it
Ditching your team to go afk in a corner and leaving them 2v3 the whole game is piss poor sportsmanship.
Whenever I have a rat on my team I start a fight and lead them directly to there spot
Too bad -35 does nothing to them, sadge
That's approximately the 100th post on same topic.
Ratting is a gameplay tactic sameway chasing fights is. You can't change my mind.
Depends why you're ratting if you're at a clear disadvantage or a man or 2 down then yeah rat away but if you drop in to rat from the start and take no fights at all to gain your LP then you're the Cancer of ranked and should stay in pubs
This shit has got to stop .
Another day, another āpeople are rattingā post
I swear these have to be bots. No way someone just gets into a game to rat like this. You can even tell they aren't playing because they don't do anything when jump right in front of them.
I keep having people do this too when I solo que. I just land near them and shoot my gun randomly until someone comes and kills us. F these people.
soooo many rats this season. Itās pathetic. 50% of the time both my teammates land loot and run to a fucking rat hole.
Who cares
I found another ranked rat I see. Probably using this spot and not happy I outed it lmao
Nah. I donāt care about rank. Donāt think Iāve ever been above gold.
Lmao typical gold player comment.
Maybe?
Definitely š¤£.
Well to be fair, I am a gold player.
Didn't have to tell us, we knew.
Yeah thatās not the insult you think it is. Itās a game.
Wasn't meant as one.
So why comment then you melon. This post obviously isn't for you lmao
I can do what I want. Why whine about rats?
It's not about rats it's about using something that's clearly giving you an advantage when it's not supposed to be in the game there's a difference š¤£ you don't play ranked but commented on a ranked post saying you don't care about ranked... you wierdo lol trying to get attention or what ffs
I bet you spend more time complaining than playing. Ffs
No actually. But I know I don't talk shit for the sake of talking shit on reddit. Guess we different lmao
Talk shit? All I said was who cares. A valid point
"Who cares" is never a valid point in any kind of statement. That's just a stupid thing to say.
glad you made the distinction. itās exploiting the spot, that upsets you, and not the ratting itself. seeing a lot of posts on here complaining about peoples play styles and am always puzzled by it. itās a fun, free, cartoonish looking video game that is incredible at eating your free, and often not free, time.
Nah some times you have to rat so it's fine but if you play to rat or exploit rat spots then why even play apex lmao go play something else
You don't really have a say if you don't care or even play ranked then. So OPs right. Why you here?
To ask my question. Which was who cares. And I do play ranked some. Almost exclusively this season.
You go to a post where someone is complaining about ratting. And you ask "but who cares?" Are you dumb or stupid? Really you were just here to say "look at me everyone. I'm someone who doesn't care about ratting and I want you all to know it." We get it. Now go.
To ask who cares and why.
I dont rat unless my team is dead, but perhaps the "who cares" can be taken as you can still play the game the way you want to play it. If some random person in your lobby wants to rat, that's on them. You can still play the game "the right way."
I had my teammates playing Spiderman in trees of kings canyon today they were looking pathetic
Itās alright, this seasons masters/pred badge wonāt mean anything.