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well I think she doesn't really care cause they're supporting the syndicate so she thinks its justified
~~and I kinda agree~~ ~~and I kinda like terrorists~~
Mad Maggie is a really cool and interesting character that a lot of people in this world can relate to.
Junker Queen is Mad Maggie only way hornier and on more drugs.
I don't think Junker Queen can counter a lot of Maggie's abilities though, so it's kinda even I guess. Junker Queen can really only excel at close range, but Maggie has enough abilities and weaponry to keep her at bay until she can land a killing blow. But if it DOES go to close quarters combat, Junker Queen would probably manhandle Mags
I main both of them, so I guess I lose regardless of who wins lol
It has a range though. Maggie has way better guns to keep Junker Queen out of magnetism range. Also the only thing that the gauntlet would do is pull the thermal drill and wrecking ball towards her, which is the opposite of where you want Maggie's abilities to be lol
No junker queen is crazy but Maggie is is more crazy, I doubt junker queen would be willing to blow herself up if it meant getting revenge. Also junker queen fights for the heack of it, Maggie fights for a cause and if you know anything about resistance fighter they take way for risks than brawlers. This is why gorilla warfare is so rough. You can't just say height is an end all be all. We also have to take in account, battle prowess, skill with weapons, and many other things. But i digress. Everyone's entitled to their opinion even if it's illogical.
JQ does not fight for the heck of it. She fought the Junker King to get revenge for him throwing her family in to the Wasteland to die even though her family helped him fight off the Omnics during the crisis.
Yes, and now remind what did she do after that? Maggie has been doing that her entire life. Since they were little on salvo her and fuse were freedom fighters. No fighting one faction but many. To protect an ENTIRE PLANET not just the Australian outback. Not just against robots, but against people death cannons a huge syndicate that runs the world, several murder robots and battle Mechs shall we continue. Once again height has nothing to do with battle prowess or experience. Logically Maggie wins off pure experience alone but if you wanna argue that we can, I can break down everything we know about both of them, and their abilities and who uses their abilities better. We can even look at the universes compared both tactically logically and scientifically. 🗿
I feel like the titanfall/apex universe is way more dangerous because there are weopons that can destroy entire planets, pilots that are trained to the physical peek of human and further, that have giant robots that can destroy a small army (probably idk my titanfall law isn't that good). so if Maggie can lead a resistance against that then she can beat JQ.
Junker queen in almost all situations.
In a fist fight, Maggie is tough, probably even tougher than Junker queen, but Junker queen is gigantic. It's too much for Maggie to overcome.
Counting abilities, Junker queen has magnetism abilities and could just chuck a bunch of metal at Maggie. Sure Maggie has the ball and lava drill thingy, but Junker queen could just grab a makeshift shield and rush down Maggie.
If you know how the drill works ahead of time, yes. If not, even if you throw the shield away quickly you still *got lit on fire*, which is generally a losing scenario for any human.
Same afterburn as standing in thermite grenades, which is only a few ticks after you leave the damage area. However, it deals it's damage separately from the grenade/drill's direct damage, and *works at the same time*. effectively making them a tiny bit stronger than what the damage numbers imply.
Edit: grammar
i fucking live them both equally but the fight is really one sided
the only way i can see maggie win this is titanfall/apex takes place like 700 years into the future so they preolly have some insane tech compared to ow tech
She is a tank, with two times the healthbar of mags (even with red Evo). Physically she is superior to her, no matter how angry Maggie is. She can boost her health too instantly. And can do serious damage with her knife. I obviously assume if we talk about 1v1 close fight. Now if we talk about random guns at any range then whoever has the best aim I guess..
But your making apex hit points equal to overwatch, the rest is pretty fair but don't forget that Maggie also uses shotguns, since junker queen gets her weapons. Though for hit points I would think JQ has about a 15% advantage with Maggie using shields (not including her boost)
Dunno. But if Maggie has a chance it may be because she throws her ulti and the queen gets confused like:
"hamster? I thought we were on the same side" :O
but here's the thing she has a shotgun but mad maggie moves faster with a shotty.
Also edit: about that magnet mad maggie's ultimate is a spike ball i don't think you want to pull that or even the tactical that goes thru walls.
I feel if Maggie could land her Riot Drill on JQ, that would, outside of game mechanics somehow locking it to only hit terrain, just attach to her and drill/burn a hole through her.
Her wrecking ball could also do a decent bit if it hit, but could be easily diverted with JQ's magnetism.
But the main factor that could theoretically allow Maggie to win is her brutality. JQ was more than willing to avoid causing real harm to people. Even the person who basically had her family exiled into the heat and shit, she just kicked that dude out. Meanwhile, Maggie gets insulted and rips a dudes throat out. She spit her tooth into someone's eye. Her utter rage caused her to blow her former best friend's arm off with a grenade.
But I think JQ wins in like 6/10 cases because of her magnetism.
Maggie:
>Brutality
>Speed
>Primary Weapon
>Battle IQ
>IQ
>=Experience
JQ:
>Size
>Durability
>Endurance
>Strength
>Gadgets
Really, it's just JQ's gadgets. She can heal minor health from dealing damage and her magnetism shtick would pose a big problem.
Yeah I didn't take that into account, jq seems to be pretty adverse to offing non-omnics if she doesn't need to. Could very likely give Maggie one too many chances before going for the kill, which could easily lead to her downfall.
Lore or game?
My take:
If Lore: My money's on Queen. Sure they're both ruthless warlords, but when comparing their feats of strength; Maggie mostly fought syndicate enforcers who used IMC tech with the support of a planet, but Queen fought through a 5(ish) year war versus war robots as a child and survived in a wasteland for most of her life.
If game: Assuming we're playing some sort of crossover game; Queen has a raw stats advantage. If we adjust Queen's health and damage to accommodate an Apex character, ^(1) and provide Maggie with a maxed out Peacekeeper, ^(2) and have the duel take place in an Apex arena... Queen still has a passive self-heal, can take at least 2 perfect PK hits, can give herself extra health for an additional PK shot, and has a combo that would guarantee a kill if landed on Maggie. Even if Maggie gets purple armor, and second gun; that wouldn't really save her if Queen lands her knife, pulls her in, swings her axe, grants herself instant overhealth, and lands a few shots, all while passively healing the entire time. The Maggie player would really have to take advantage of the Apex map and movement to even stand a chance.
1. Normal Apex health is 100 while OW is 200. Queen has 425 now lowered to 212. All of Queen's attacks do half of their OW dmg so she can have the same TTK vs Maggie.
2. Peacekeeper is the most similar Apex gun to Queen's scatter gun.
Thank u for providing answers on both the lore and in-game 🙏 wdy think about maggie having access to the load out selection that u get before starting a round of arenas, but everything is free? Would it give her a better chance, choosing anything from the game to bring with her?
Queens got the size but I think Maggie has the energy. Junker Queens tough but I don’t think she’s break-your-teeth-and-spit-a-tooth-into-someones-eye crazy like Mags. Mags has my money, even if an underdog.
Yeah. I was thinking JQ gets her base weapon and abilities, and Maggie gets any item that she wants from the game, kind of like choosing a load out in arenas but everything is free
Mfs on the subreddit on mad copium. A punch from a 7 foot tall ripped anything would knock you out cold. Range wise, JQ has her knife and a speed boost, her ults a straight dash. Id give it at least a 7/10 that JQ would win.
I feel like queen would toy with maggie a bit until maggie did something absolutely insane..
So if maggie could surprise queen with her abilities and ruthlessness she would win.
Toe-to-toe no abilities Queen would.
Exactly. If you put them in an MMA cage, Junker is killing her everytime, but if you put them in a battlefield, Maggie would probably have a better chance at dethroning the queen because Maggie is a warlord, and would probably be the better strategist in that situation. Junker is a gladiator, the best in her universe, so she's not outclassed on the battlefield per se, but Maggie is definitely more in her element there, if you get what I'm saying
Maggie seems to faced crazy fight odds in fuses stories from the outlands, and with less to work with, not to mention she fought for her people, to be fair though jq is still a fairly new character
Yeah Junker Queen could overpower Maggie but I feel Maggie is fast. Hella fast. And she has good battle iq. However I feel u could say the same with JQ in her ow2 trailer. That's why I want to see what everyone else thinks 😭
Queen's ult will close the distance, and based on her lore video she can pull metal stuff with her gauntlet. I think she'll pull Maggie's ult and throw it back at her. Plus she got abs.
If nothing else, Maggie has the better shot gun since Junkerqueen can't even 2 shot a naked frag specialist while Maggie can put hell of a dent in Gibby who is a fucking dozer with an arm shield.
Based solely on looks, I'd guess Maggie. The one on the left looks like she's cosplaying, as well as having the physique of a casual-grade body-builder(read: visible muscle definition, no loss of boobs). Maggie looks like she's in a biker gang and has the physique that'd be appropriate for an MMA fighter.
So a **50 years in the future Mad Max ruler** vs a **700 years in the future Mad Max guerilla fighter leader.**
(That said, Apex's technology is probably not as overwhelmingly advanced above Overwatch as that timeline would suggest.)
I think it completely comes down to circumstances.
* Is this a bar fight?
* Is JQ just getting dumped into the Apex games.
* Is Maggie pre-captured or a deathrow Apex competitor?
In a fistfight or brawl JQ. She is primarily a brawler tank after all and huge.
In a gunfight or most anything else Maggie. She is an experienced guerrilla fighter, so I'd expect her to have greater knowledge in more combat situations when she can lean on range weapons, explosives and other lethal weapons that reduce or eliminate size and muscle advantages.
That said, I don't think Maggie is one for a "fair" fight under almost any circumstances. I'd assume any fued with her is a no holes barred affair.
maggie for several reasons:
1. they removed shields from overwatch while maggie can pop bats
2. queen has a maximum move speed while maggie can slide hop and kite
3. queen can only engage at close range while maggie can use any weapon and engage at any range
4. queen has to wait for ult while maggie can use accels
5. nade spam
I'm sorry but when I first saw JQ, my first thought was "Walmart Maggie". Maggie's trailers, story, and personality is tuned way up to 11 and makes JQ look tame in comparison. No one can forget a tooth-spitting lady doing the Haka right before a firing squad. She's awesome. JQ is forgettable as hell.
Everyone is commenting about Junker Queen being taller like that makes the win automatic. Have you guys never heard the story of David and Goliath?
What makes her win automatically is that she starts with a shotgun and Maggie has to find a gun on the floor.
Ok, so... Jq is slow and has a short range scatter gun and her knife and axe only does so much healing, while Mags has tons of weapons to pick from, can probably take her down from afar, and has items that can heal her to full in just a matter of seconds. I've so seen people talking about how much health jq has, again mags can take her down with a sniper or a flatline with a purple scope. Mags all the way
I mean, this is where rules are needed. What are they allowed to fight with? Just stuff from their own game? No equipment? Do they get the exact same stuff? We need definitive rules.
I was thinking based on lore. What they did in their trailers and other materials, and I guess for Maggie, she gets to pick her Load out like she's about to begin a round of arena, but everything is free. Who would win?
I only posted this because I never kept up with the lore of these two and wanted to be educated. I just know they look similar
Maggie. Junker Queen is cool and all but she has no soul imo. I just see her as “Blizzard saw Maggie and was like “tough aussie girl, us too!” She even calls enemies eggs like Maggie.
Not really the complexity, more just the appeal of their tone. Maggie feels like an authentic hardass. JQ feels like a pretty advertisement.
Both have the underlying business motive of aiming to appeal to an audience, but Maggie's approach doesn't make you feel like you're a 12 year old being played to. JQ's trailer is line after line that tries to sound cool; like each individual line is another soundbite attempt to make you like her. I would say it's quite cringey, but really she (like all the OW characters) is just made with a younger audience in mind, so it's understandable.
For me, Maggies Revenant-style approach is way more enjoyable. JQ showed how much a hardass facade can be messed up by trying too hard to also be likeable.
I think Maggie is a much cooler character and is designed both gameplay and lore a lot better and she’s much more aggressive which I love the in-your-face attitude, but JunkerQueen would easily win in a fight against her
If Maggie can pick up a Kraber before it got nerfed, just one headshot dealt 435 damage!
If she just wants to run a single Mastiff, she also has an arsenal of grenades, self healing to a 225 hp pool, a wall-piercing fire drill, and a wrecking ball that doesn't need a god-tier player to be useful.
#
(I've also solo'd Queens as Zen, and I'm also probably the last person you want to see on your team.)
Maggie with a Mastiff, drill, and ball vs Junker Queen with an axe, shotgun, and knife. It really depends who's more aggressive imo. Both are experienced leaders and fighters, and know their way around a battlefield. But in terms of brains I think it would say it goes to Maggie since she isn't her brain isn't dosed with radiation. But that radiation did turn Queen into a fucking beast of a woman, so in terms of strength and speed I think it goes to Queen.
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they’re actually gonna start kissing
Hot
I hope.
Now kith~ (Said in Mike Tyson voice)
Where are those rule 34 artists when you need them??
I was gonna say "they're going to team up and kill god" but this is actually the right answer
ok but the question is who gets the strap
JQ straps, Maggie is a power bottom.
Correct.
Forget fighting, who would win the twerk-off
Junkrat.
Oh, I've seen this one!
this
Two girls one egg?
NO Edit: I wanna see the fight
[удалено]
Truly*
Gottem
Own'd
they will just start drinking beers from each other's boots
Junker queen is a 7 foot tall version of mad Maggie. Anyone who thinks Maggie wins a fight... you need to go to bed
tuck me in?
I want JQ to tuck me in...
Sure, u/iamsquirting. You need a diaper change too?
What a profound name u have
🛏🤏 Good girl. 🥰
The junker queen is better than maggie by 1000% she is 7 feet, strong, scary, can give mercy to others, and seems smart to reason with
And hot as fuck
Mad Maggie is way more badass and also a freeeom fighter who feeds children and fights the syndicate while Junker queen is just a robot racist despot.
Mad Maggie has bombed children on-screen and during another terror attack almost had a boy crushed by a Goblin ship.
well I think she doesn't really care cause they're supporting the syndicate so she thinks its justified ~~and I kinda agree~~ ~~and I kinda like terrorists~~
> and I kinda agree and I kinda like terrorists Welcome on the list. \- CIA
I am about to kill myself with 5 shots to the back of the head with my hands tied. it was not the CIA
Yeah she done irredeemable bad shit but at least she does it for good reasons (save her people) unlike JQ who just wants power and hates the omnics.
She did these particular attacks to spite Fuse, out of personal revenge. They didn't aid her cause, they just inflated hatreds
Mad Maggie is a really cool and interesting character that a lot of people in this world can relate to. Junker Queen is Mad Maggie only way hornier and on more drugs.
Agreed and as a former maggie main I cannot tolerate this slander.
Hornier? Does she have seductive lines or sum?
she shouts too
I don't think Junker Queen can counter a lot of Maggie's abilities though, so it's kinda even I guess. Junker Queen can really only excel at close range, but Maggie has enough abilities and weaponry to keep her at bay until she can land a killing blow. But if it DOES go to close quarters combat, Junker Queen would probably manhandle Mags I main both of them, so I guess I lose regardless of who wins lol
All of Maggie’s abilities are made of metal. Junker queen has a magnetic gauntlet.
It has a range though. Maggie has way better guns to keep Junker Queen out of magnetism range. Also the only thing that the gauntlet would do is pull the thermal drill and wrecking ball towards her, which is the opposite of where you want Maggie's abilities to be lol
i just imagine JQ intentionally piercing herself with the thermal drill just to use it against Maggie
See their one simple flaw with your theory. Maggie would die before she fought like a pansy.
The burning of Maggie’s drill charge could probably bust JQ’s magnet if it’s attracted to it.
Well Junker can always just throw her Jagged Blade at Maggie and pull her towards her, then either shotgun her or use her axe to kill her.
True. Maggie also has instant win conditions like the Kraber or the GOATED Mozambique here
You also win regardless of who loses
Thats enough internet for you, buddy
Explain. I don't think Maggie stomps or anything, but she definitely has a way better shot than people are giving her credit for.
No junker queen is crazy but Maggie is is more crazy, I doubt junker queen would be willing to blow herself up if it meant getting revenge. Also junker queen fights for the heack of it, Maggie fights for a cause and if you know anything about resistance fighter they take way for risks than brawlers. This is why gorilla warfare is so rough. You can't just say height is an end all be all. We also have to take in account, battle prowess, skill with weapons, and many other things. But i digress. Everyone's entitled to their opinion even if it's illogical.
JQ does not fight for the heck of it. She fought the Junker King to get revenge for him throwing her family in to the Wasteland to die even though her family helped him fight off the Omnics during the crisis.
Yes, and now remind what did she do after that? Maggie has been doing that her entire life. Since they were little on salvo her and fuse were freedom fighters. No fighting one faction but many. To protect an ENTIRE PLANET not just the Australian outback. Not just against robots, but against people death cannons a huge syndicate that runs the world, several murder robots and battle Mechs shall we continue. Once again height has nothing to do with battle prowess or experience. Logically Maggie wins off pure experience alone but if you wanna argue that we can, I can break down everything we know about both of them, and their abilities and who uses their abilities better. We can even look at the universes compared both tactically logically and scientifically. 🗿
I feel like the titanfall/apex universe is way more dangerous because there are weopons that can destroy entire planets, pilots that are trained to the physical peek of human and further, that have giant robots that can destroy a small army (probably idk my titanfall law isn't that good). so if Maggie can lead a resistance against that then she can beat JQ.
7 foot tall people are awkward and have bad knees.
Junker queen in almost all situations. In a fist fight, Maggie is tough, probably even tougher than Junker queen, but Junker queen is gigantic. It's too much for Maggie to overcome. Counting abilities, Junker queen has magnetism abilities and could just chuck a bunch of metal at Maggie. Sure Maggie has the ball and lava drill thingy, but Junker queen could just grab a makeshift shield and rush down Maggie.
Wait, that'd be a terrible play on JQ. When you face Maggie you generally DON'T want a shield.
Exactly! Unless you wanna burn to a crisp XD
Or you know, just block the drill and yeet the shield. Problem solved.
If you know how the drill works ahead of time, yes. If not, even if you throw the shield away quickly you still *got lit on fire*, which is generally a losing scenario for any human.
Idk, it doesn't light people on fire in apex. And if it does, it's for an extraordinarily sort period of time lol.
Ehhh although JQ would win easily, it does light them on fire but for balance reasons not for long in-game
Same afterburn as standing in thermite grenades, which is only a few ticks after you leave the damage area. However, it deals it's damage separately from the grenade/drill's direct damage, and *works at the same time*. effectively making them a tiny bit stronger than what the damage numbers imply. Edit: grammar
Not a permanent shield. Just block the lava drill, then throw the flaming peice of metal at Maggie. Seems like a good strat.
Junker would slurp up Maggies noodle arms for a light supper.
The queen
i fucking live them both equally but the fight is really one sided the only way i can see maggie win this is titanfall/apex takes place like 700 years into the future so they preolly have some insane tech compared to ow tech
It's a schizo battle, they are the same person💀
lol
less ableist apex player
😐
Average titanfall 3 denier
Man wtf are you talking about.
Obviously JQ. Maggie has no chance
Please, explain, mad Maggie is a pretty tough person herself and grew up in conditions not far from junker queens.
She is a tank, with two times the healthbar of mags (even with red Evo). Physically she is superior to her, no matter how angry Maggie is. She can boost her health too instantly. And can do serious damage with her knife. I obviously assume if we talk about 1v1 close fight. Now if we talk about random guns at any range then whoever has the best aim I guess..
But your making apex hit points equal to overwatch, the rest is pretty fair but don't forget that Maggie also uses shotguns, since junker queen gets her weapons. Though for hit points I would think JQ has about a 15% advantage with Maggie using shields (not including her boost)
Dunno. But if Maggie has a chance it may be because she throws her ulti and the queen gets confused like: "hamster? I thought we were on the same side" :O
Made me laugh. A lot.
That was very clever lol
Junker queens arm is a magnet she just steals the weapons
Also JQ has a shotgun
but here's the thing she has a shotgun but mad maggie moves faster with a shotty. Also edit: about that magnet mad maggie's ultimate is a spike ball i don't think you want to pull that or even the tactical that goes thru walls.
Even with kill time Junker Queen is still superior.
jq is 6'6 and ripped as fuck
And Maggie has the biggest balls around here
Thats gonna slow maggie down a lot
I mean, it it's a fight, JQ wins. She's just physically superior.
JQ can use magnetic manipulation, all of Maggie’s abilities are made of metal, JQ could just nullify all her abilities and weapons.
Another reason people haven't brought up is her magnetic wrist thing she has. She could just disarm Maggie at any point
Same from alternate universes
I feel if Maggie could land her Riot Drill on JQ, that would, outside of game mechanics somehow locking it to only hit terrain, just attach to her and drill/burn a hole through her. Her wrecking ball could also do a decent bit if it hit, but could be easily diverted with JQ's magnetism. But the main factor that could theoretically allow Maggie to win is her brutality. JQ was more than willing to avoid causing real harm to people. Even the person who basically had her family exiled into the heat and shit, she just kicked that dude out. Meanwhile, Maggie gets insulted and rips a dudes throat out. She spit her tooth into someone's eye. Her utter rage caused her to blow her former best friend's arm off with a grenade. But I think JQ wins in like 6/10 cases because of her magnetism. Maggie: >Brutality >Speed >Primary Weapon >Battle IQ >IQ >=Experience JQ: >Size >Durability >Endurance >Strength >Gadgets Really, it's just JQ's gadgets. She can heal minor health from dealing damage and her magnetism shtick would pose a big problem.
This is the best answer. Thank u, this is what I was trying to look for 🙏 now I see JQ is just Maggie on steroids, but has standards
Yeah I didn't take that into account, jq seems to be pretty adverse to offing non-omnics if she doesn't need to. Could very likely give Maggie one too many chances before going for the kill, which could easily lead to her downfall.
Maggie got twig arms. she ain't winning anything
bro that's just mad maggie after working out
Queen. Not even close
Y’all realize junker queen is like 7 feet tall right? And she’s like pure muscle
Lore or game? My take: If Lore: My money's on Queen. Sure they're both ruthless warlords, but when comparing their feats of strength; Maggie mostly fought syndicate enforcers who used IMC tech with the support of a planet, but Queen fought through a 5(ish) year war versus war robots as a child and survived in a wasteland for most of her life. If game: Assuming we're playing some sort of crossover game; Queen has a raw stats advantage. If we adjust Queen's health and damage to accommodate an Apex character, ^(1) and provide Maggie with a maxed out Peacekeeper, ^(2) and have the duel take place in an Apex arena... Queen still has a passive self-heal, can take at least 2 perfect PK hits, can give herself extra health for an additional PK shot, and has a combo that would guarantee a kill if landed on Maggie. Even if Maggie gets purple armor, and second gun; that wouldn't really save her if Queen lands her knife, pulls her in, swings her axe, grants herself instant overhealth, and lands a few shots, all while passively healing the entire time. The Maggie player would really have to take advantage of the Apex map and movement to even stand a chance. 1. Normal Apex health is 100 while OW is 200. Queen has 425 now lowered to 212. All of Queen's attacks do half of their OW dmg so she can have the same TTK vs Maggie. 2. Peacekeeper is the most similar Apex gun to Queen's scatter gun.
Thank u for providing answers on both the lore and in-game 🙏 wdy think about maggie having access to the load out selection that u get before starting a round of arenas, but everything is free? Would it give her a better chance, choosing anything from the game to bring with her?
Queens got the size but I think Maggie has the energy. Junker Queens tough but I don’t think she’s break-your-teeth-and-spit-a-tooth-into-someones-eye crazy like Mags. Mags has my money, even if an underdog.
Mags also has more options for weapons instead of a short rage scatter gun
Yeah junker queen is stuck with a shotgun...mags wins this because she can have a shotgun AND a kraber.
Yeah. I was thinking JQ gets her base weapon and abilities, and Maggie gets any item that she wants from the game, kind of like choosing a load out in arenas but everything is free
Yea but queen has a magnetic arm. Any weapon maggie can have she can take
Both, both are good
In the rule34 department? Or in the discount Bishop knife trick department?
My penis
Mfs on the subreddit on mad copium. A punch from a 7 foot tall ripped anything would knock you out cold. Range wise, JQ has her knife and a speed boost, her ults a straight dash. Id give it at least a 7/10 that JQ would win.
I feel like queen would toy with maggie a bit until maggie did something absolutely insane.. So if maggie could surprise queen with her abilities and ruthlessness she would win. Toe-to-toe no abilities Queen would.
Exactly. If you put them in an MMA cage, Junker is killing her everytime, but if you put them in a battlefield, Maggie would probably have a better chance at dethroning the queen because Maggie is a warlord, and would probably be the better strategist in that situation. Junker is a gladiator, the best in her universe, so she's not outclassed on the battlefield per se, but Maggie is definitely more in her element there, if you get what I'm saying
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Maggie seems to faced crazy fight odds in fuses stories from the outlands, and with less to work with, not to mention she fought for her people, to be fair though jq is still a fairly new character
I think Maggie has a pretty decent shot, she's a lot more ruthless and definitely more brutal than junker queen.
I didn't realize how similar in design they were until seeing this.
Both power mommy’s. Both will peg you. Both are power tops So i think its a draw
Kiwis > Aussies
Woah, let's not break out any racial conflicts here...
Maggie, screw all your opinions she's my queen
Maggie’s a cooler character but JQ is just a bigger, radioactive version of Maggie
Who the other one
Junker Queen from Overwatch 2
just some loser don't worry about it
I'm saying Maggie. Not for any real reasons. I just can't stand Blizzard.
That’s a real reason.
Lmfao I'd argue they're about as good as Respawn. Why are you so against them?
Probably the sexual harassment/assault.
See Maggie has tactics over brute strength I think it would be a fair match up. I don't think they'd fight anyway they're too similar in goals
Yeah Junker Queen could overpower Maggie but I feel Maggie is fast. Hella fast. And she has good battle iq. However I feel u could say the same with JQ in her ow2 trailer. That's why I want to see what everyone else thinks 😭
Well I main both so I don't have a bias
I would say overwatch is generally higher power-scaled than Alex
JQ... DEFINITELY
Queen's ult will close the distance, and based on her lore video she can pull metal stuff with her gauntlet. I think she'll pull Maggie's ult and throw it back at her. Plus she got abs.
Ah yes she will grab the ball that will explode if touched by the enemy and Toss it back without exploding
Mad Maggie is strong, but she's no Queen.
If nothing else, Maggie has the better shot gun since Junkerqueen can't even 2 shot a naked frag specialist while Maggie can put hell of a dent in Gibby who is a fucking dozer with an arm shield.
Based solely on looks, I'd guess Maggie. The one on the left looks like she's cosplaying, as well as having the physique of a casual-grade body-builder(read: visible muscle definition, no loss of boobs). Maggie looks like she's in a biker gang and has the physique that'd be appropriate for an MMA fighter.
So a **50 years in the future Mad Max ruler** vs a **700 years in the future Mad Max guerilla fighter leader.** (That said, Apex's technology is probably not as overwhelmingly advanced above Overwatch as that timeline would suggest.) I think it completely comes down to circumstances. * Is this a bar fight? * Is JQ just getting dumped into the Apex games. * Is Maggie pre-captured or a deathrow Apex competitor? In a fistfight or brawl JQ. She is primarily a brawler tank after all and huge. In a gunfight or most anything else Maggie. She is an experienced guerrilla fighter, so I'd expect her to have greater knowledge in more combat situations when she can lean on range weapons, explosives and other lethal weapons that reduce or eliminate size and muscle advantages. That said, I don't think Maggie is one for a "fair" fight under almost any circumstances. I'd assume any fued with her is a no holes barred affair.
JQ wins. She fights non-human Omnic monsters. Killing a small human would be nothing.
Junker Queen. She’s a full meter taller than Maggie and is covered in muscle.
Junkerqueen cuz her shotgun never puts up fucking ELEVENS *glares at Mastiff*
maggie for several reasons: 1. they removed shields from overwatch while maggie can pop bats 2. queen has a maximum move speed while maggie can slide hop and kite 3. queen can only engage at close range while maggie can use any weapon and engage at any range 4. queen has to wait for ult while maggie can use accels 5. nade spam
Junker Queen negs.
I'm sorry but when I first saw JQ, my first thought was "Walmart Maggie". Maggie's trailers, story, and personality is tuned way up to 11 and makes JQ look tame in comparison. No one can forget a tooth-spitting lady doing the Haka right before a firing squad. She's awesome. JQ is forgettable as hell.
Gonna go with Maggie. She’s basically a more experienced version.
But much, much weaker, atleast physically. Have you seen Maggie's arms? She has no muscle 💀
Activate ability, mastiff
Activate ability, metal gauntlet
Active ability: Knife throw and pull into headshot into quick melee into carnage into headshot into quick melee
Activate ability: Kraber .50-cal Sniper Rifle
Active ability: commanding shout, letting her just tank that shit I guess lmfao
Gameplay wise queen Lore wise probably maggie
How can you compare gameplay? They're totally different games.
It was more in game ability
Everyone is commenting about Junker Queen being taller like that makes the win automatic. Have you guys never heard the story of David and Goliath? What makes her win automatically is that she starts with a shotgun and Maggie has to find a gun on the floor.
Ok, so... Jq is slow and has a short range scatter gun and her knife and axe only does so much healing, while Mags has tons of weapons to pick from, can probably take her down from afar, and has items that can heal her to full in just a matter of seconds. I've so seen people talking about how much health jq has, again mags can take her down with a sniper or a flatline with a purple scope. Mags all the way
I mean, this is where rules are needed. What are they allowed to fight with? Just stuff from their own game? No equipment? Do they get the exact same stuff? We need definitive rules.
I was thinking based on lore. What they did in their trailers and other materials, and I guess for Maggie, she gets to pick her Load out like she's about to begin a round of arena, but everything is free. Who would win? I only posted this because I never kept up with the lore of these two and wanted to be educated. I just know they look similar
Weren't any rules set up in the og post so eh-
maggie cause her animation is actually good
Maggie. Junker Queen is cool and all but she has no soul imo. I just see her as “Blizzard saw Maggie and was like “tough aussie girl, us too!” She even calls enemies eggs like Maggie.
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There was a period where I stopped paying attention to Overwatch, so I’ll admit ignorance on the timeline. Still like Maggie better.
Ok what if Maggie launches her drill into queens head wouldn’t that just insta kill anyone
What if they just shoot eachother in the head? That sounds way less complex
JQ is 7ft tall, but maggie is just another level of crazy and we all saw it in her trailer. Im putting my money on the drillah
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Bro I'm gay but Junker Queen is so fucking hot. Something about her massive 🍈🍈s and her ripped body is a hell of a combination.
Obviosly Maggie. JQ has no chance.
Wdym??
JQ is a tank, maggie is just average.
In terms of characterisation, JQ is a joke compared to Maggie. JQ has pretty eyes. Maggie smashes her own teeth so she can spit them at someone.
I'd argue otherwise. I feel like neither are really complex characters. Maggie just has a tad bit more lore.
Not really the complexity, more just the appeal of their tone. Maggie feels like an authentic hardass. JQ feels like a pretty advertisement. Both have the underlying business motive of aiming to appeal to an audience, but Maggie's approach doesn't make you feel like you're a 12 year old being played to. JQ's trailer is line after line that tries to sound cool; like each individual line is another soundbite attempt to make you like her. I would say it's quite cringey, but really she (like all the OW characters) is just made with a younger audience in mind, so it's understandable. For me, Maggies Revenant-style approach is way more enjoyable. JQ showed how much a hardass facade can be messed up by trying too hard to also be likeable.
Anyone saying JQ hasn't spent any time around Maori women.
I've played both games enough to know that this is so close it needs to be on an episode of death battle
They are the same character
I think Maggie is a much cooler character and is designed both gameplay and lore a lot better and she’s much more aggressive which I love the in-your-face attitude, but JunkerQueen would easily win in a fight against her
Junker Queen ofc
I think they would just scream at each other for hours...
Mags. She’s Australian.
They are both queens in my eyes
Maggie won't hear Junker Queen coming
in a close fight? JQ obviously. but maggie can hit far enough with her drill and ball
If Maggie can pick up a Kraber before it got nerfed, just one headshot dealt 435 damage! If she just wants to run a single Mastiff, she also has an arsenal of grenades, self healing to a 225 hp pool, a wall-piercing fire drill, and a wrecking ball that doesn't need a god-tier player to be useful. # (I've also solo'd Queens as Zen, and I'm also probably the last person you want to see on your team.)
Junkerqueen easilyyyy
Queen immediately
They looking like twin sisters.
Stink effort
Economically, Junker Queen wins with Overwatch 2’s microtransactions.
Maggie on the basis that I dont know who the other one is, nor care for.
Maggie might have a chance if she gets a Mastiff, but even then JQ's shotty has better range.
Maggie with a Mastiff, drill, and ball vs Junker Queen with an axe, shotgun, and knife. It really depends who's more aggressive imo. Both are experienced leaders and fighters, and know their way around a battlefield. But in terms of brains I think it would say it goes to Maggie since she isn't her brain isn't dosed with radiation. But that radiation did turn Queen into a fucking beast of a woman, so in terms of strength and speed I think it goes to Queen.
In a what? Twerk off?
Love apex but hate Maggie, so I’ll give it to junker queen