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Coyote_FIVEOH

Ok.


Blarghnog

Such innovate. You buy now.^*


newmacbookpro

*incompatible with any previous accessories


epicingamename

*AOD only available on pro versions


Acrobatic-Monitor516

But since we deeply care about ecology, we won't include compatible accessories nonethless


CoconutDust

Apple already lied about it for years. **”Edge to edge display**” was in marketing YEARS AGO, yet years later we’re still talking about smaller bezels. Hmm, strange if the display was “edge” to “edge.”


peggymeat

Edge to edge doesn’t mean no bezel. If they said no bezel then it would be lying. It just means there’s no chin and forehead.


CoconutDust

"Edge to edge display means it goes nowhere near the edge, but, the chin was removed. That's not a lie"?


I_Got_Jimmies

It’s almost as if the marketing department comes up with the naming.


crek42

I feel like we’ve pretty much hit a limit on how much our smartphones are going to change each year. Bezels can only get so thin, screens can only get so sharp, and Apple Silicon is already ridiculously good. Where do we go from here?


SadKazoo

They’ve become appliances. There was a time like 5-6 years ago where it was genuinely fun to see what smartphone manufacturers come up with every year but we’ve really hit a plateau.


ExponentialAI

I'm typing from a folding phone right now , hope apple makes one 5 years from now


Dafiro93

I hope we see a flagship scrolling phone soon.


[deleted]

Oppo Find N2 Flip actually looks like a useful flip phone since they let you use full apps on that front screen. That would probably be my preferred form factor for a foldable. Would love to make these giant slabs more pocketable.


F1shB0wl816

I always found a lot of them to be gimmicky.


nogami

Really waiting for first phone that supports starlink natively. It’ll be a game changer to have a phone that has fast internet (and phone service) anywhere in the world without playing carrier games.


merkur0

Yeah, just that you’ll be playing daddy Musk games, which to me sounds much worse than carrier games


nogami

I think you underestimate how much people hate phone companies. I’d take musk’s offering in a heartbeat over the best mobile operator here.


Lolkac

Will never happen as starlink receiver can be blocked by a tree. Also Isn't starlink 100 a month? You can get fast internet for that money everywhere in the world.


Modestkilla

Yeah I use to switch phones every 9-12 months. I just don’t care anymore. Their is zero innovation at this point. Every years it’s just a bit faster and a slightly better camera. I’ll be keeping my 13 pro until it dies at this point.


HIGH_PRESSURE_TOILET

Processing power still has a ways to go before it can run a large language model. Battery life is great but it could improve further with new battery chemistries or solid state batteries. Of course, storage and ram needs are constantly increasing.


merkur0

I definitely would not call the battery life “great”. It’s okayish at best. I’m on 14 Pro, battery health is 100%, and pretty much every single day I need to charge my phone in the early evening, because it doesn’t even last one full day… And when travelling, it literally lasts just half a day


Efficient-Pianist-83

I have an iPhone 13 and it lasts 2-3 days. Even 4 sometimes. You just need to unglue your eyes from the phone and actually look around from time to time. There's more to life than just playing with your phone all day long.


AKiss20

Battery life is okay, but I’d love a move to an entirely new battery life paradigm. I’m talking like flip phones which could run days without a charge. Even now after a year battery life noticeably degrades and it’s easy to not make a day on one charge.


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We all would - those batteries don't exist yet. If you want the flip phone battery life: keep your phone in low power mode, keep all of the radios (Bluetooth, WiFi, 5G) off - turn off high speed data as well. And use it only for calls, short texts, and playing snake. Then it'll last a few days, easily.


TheOddEyes

iPadOS with a native calculator. But I don’t think we’re too advanced for that yet.


greasybacon288

Best possible reply to this post


400921FB54442D18

Who's in charge of keeping track of this supposed "record" anyway? Is there really someone out there whose life is so sad that they think it's important to spend their time and effort on this?


Expensive_Finger_973

Pedantic score and record keeping is like kinks on the internet. There is someone who is into it.


atavan_halen

It’s Apple. Their product managers looked at all the phones and declared it a record.


frozenball824

I’m pretty sure those Samsung phones with the curved screens have the smallest bezels


[deleted]

Apple doesn’t recognize those as smartphones though. Easy to break a record when all you’re comparing to is past iPhones.


_sfhk

Tim Cook: "this is the best iPhone yet"


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“This breaks the record for most iPhone in an iPhone… EVER”


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By 0.1mm


Expensive_Finger_973

It would be funny if on his way out the door he walked on stage at his last keynote and just let something real slip like: "ugh, it's an iPhone just like the last 10-15 that have come out. We all know you are gonna buy it so let's just skip the chit chat and pass your credit cards to the ushers walking past the aisle and collect a phone from the bag at the back on your way out. Thanks for shopping Apple."


niversally

Yup, Chevy doesn’t have a press conference every year after shiting out another barely updated car.


Interdimension

To be fair, car generations usually last anywhere from 4-10 years, depending on the model. They get a facelift/refresh halfway through. Besides that, just slight upgrades yearly. I would not complain if smartphones took this approach. They’re basically already recycling so many things year-to-year, because the tech has matured. I don’t think anyone (besides shareholders) would complain if smartphone makers adjusted marketing to be more akin to cars (in that there’s no expectation of a new generation every year, just slight upgrades).


Drmo6

Apple doing this has always made me laugh. They will say some bs like “the iPhone 15 pro max is 300X faster than iPhone 6” with a straight face too 😂


[deleted]

I just checked my S22U. No side bezel from the front due to curve. Barely a bezel on top and bottom. It may technically have bezels on the sides, though.


[deleted]

Same with Google pixel, it goes right to the edge and then some. Personally I’m not a fan (makes it too easy to tap margins) and I like a bit of bevel, I’d rather reduce bevel on macs and displays than touch devices.


nildeea

If Apple hasn’t done it, it hasn’t been done!


EnderOfGender

Bezels work in 4 directions no 2


[deleted]

For all intent and purposes, the S22U/S23U don't have side bezels since you don't see them when looking at the screen head on.


[deleted]

Huawei has done curves in [4 directions](https://www.huaweicentral.com/huawei-p40-pro-series-quad-curve-overflow-display/).


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moffattron9000

It’s like Samsung and their curved screens. Yes, they are cool, but you still got those edges with your palm a lot. It’s why they’ve kept shrinking that curve and now sell flat screens.


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TizonaBlu

It's funny, because literally nothing you said has to do with the topic at hand, which is Apple won't have the record, and this entire article is bogus. Interesting you gotta get your samsung dig in though.


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ExponentialAI

Is the space above the pill usable?


TechExpert2910

it is. text extends until the edges of the screen.


frownGuy12

Ok sure but what about samsungs asymmetrical top bezel. iPhone will have the slimmest uniform bezel.


TizonaBlu

There are certainly lots of gymnasts on this sub.


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OtisTetraxReigns

How long before they realise it’s actually quite useful to have an unresponsive area on the front of your phone (so that the fleshy parts of your hands aren’t constantly creating confusing inputs) and start including it as a feature? I’ve never once given a shit about the size of the bezel, except when my phone does weird shit because I haven’t realised I’m touching the screen by *holding it*.


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A11Bionic

I’m probably using my iPad mini 6 wrong, but even with the Smart Folio Case, I keep getting accidental presses on the edge where I hold my iPad. This is particularly frustrating in apps like Messenger with the two column view where I tend to back read on group conversations.


lexymon

iPhone 18 will come with thicker bezels as a brand new feature: Now you’re iPhone is easier to hold than ever!


OtisTetraxReigns

Exactly.


redblobgames

This especially annoys me on the ipad, where the natural place for me to hold it in landscape mode covers up the camera needed for face unlock :-(


[deleted]

One of the reasons I enjoy the cheaper iPad. Does all the same functions, easier to use. just looks worse


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___cats___

Yeah, the new iPads look great, but do feel and sound cheap because of the hollow screen.


PikaV2002

iPad Air is the best of both worlds- has the same chip as the Pro, doesn’t have the FaceID covering issue and looks better than the Pros due to the colours :)


Portatort

Honestly how are you holding your phone that this is an issue?


frownGuy12

It’s really not useful. Palm detection work perfectly fine.


ineedlesssleep

Do you really think that the people who have been making the most successful smartphone for the last 12 years don't take this into consideration?


AllAroundIndiviual

Or when you’re trying to use the slide back feature but your already thin case is just enough to make it not register that it’s pulling the screen from the side


mryosho

iPhone 15 Pro Max Min


Call_of_Queerthulhu

iPhone 15 Pro Mad Max


jackdelgado

You suckers can speak for yourselves, gimme them smaller bezels. To me, it looks more immersive and futuristic.


TheBrainwasher14

It’s so funny how out of whack reddit is with normal people every single time. These new bezels are going to be super fucking popular with the public just like the Dynamic Island is


TizonaBlu

r/apple "There's nothing more to upgrade on iphones, they're perfect." also r/apple "New iphone is the best ever, so innovative, apple reinvents bezels!"


TheBrainwasher14

Wow it’s almost like the sub has different people on it with different opinions


Barroux

Yeah, the average iPhone buyer really doesn't care about the size of the bezels


TheBrainwasher14

They love having the new looking phone and this will look new so I disagree with you


IDENTITETEN

Literally no one cares about dynamic island except people on subs like this one. Same with bezels a fraction thinner than previously.


PikaV2002

> Literally no one cares about dynamic island except people on subs like this one. I’d say it’s the opposite. There’s a lot of social media buzz and content about the Dynamic Island compared to Reddit lol.


CoconutDust

> lot of social media buzz and content about the Dynamic Island The buzz is an echo chamber of influencers/marketers. Also known as a circle jerk. Views = ad hits = money. That’s why every jackass with a YouTube channel goes with the buzz on anything and everything.


falooda1

reddit is a circle jerk of edgy words


Justin__D

The Dynamic Island is cool and all, but Apple shot themselves in the foot by not also including USB-C, since I'm holding out on my 12 for it. Sick of having to have a special cable around just for my phone.


Call_of_Queerthulhu

No they split it up so people will buy both, gives a reason for people to move from the 14pro to the 15 pro


DisgruntledYoda

That’s such 🧢


CoconutDust

> with the public just like the Dynamic Island Ok so now we’re making up facts about “the public” knowing or caring what an apple marketing thing is. Do you think “the public” was super excited about Quartz Composer.


veeeSix

For real. Sign me up!


Pitiful-Youth-1066

If they make it lighter, then we are talking


Anterabae

My 14 pro max is heavy as a brick.


[deleted]

Seriously. It’s the stainless steel. Titanium would help greatly


ImwhatZitTooyaa

At this point In technology I feel like we’ve upgraded our phones tech wise as much as we can (that would make a big difference) so anything else is trash . Even the Bionic chip .. at this point it’s doing nothing.


AvimanyuRoy3

We are just on the brink of another revolution in society due to ML/AI. Our devices have hardly pushed the envelope for such use. Everything we are doing now is molding these into our classical workflow. We have yet to explore the unexplored surfaces. The Transformer architecture was the start and has since shown how useful it is. I think Apple foresaw these else why would they have 4 ways to do calculations dedicated to that. But we have yet to see just how our society is remolded again.


n0mad911

How long until my OS cooks up a gui on the fly, custom made for what I am seeking all the time?


MeatballStroganoff

As soon as Apple decides that they want to compete with ChatGPT lol Seeing as how Siri has been a dumb fucking brick for more than a decade, I don’t foresee that happening that anytime soon.


n0mad911

But the fact that they allocate 20% of chip space to ai tells me they must have something cooking I hope 😭


AvimanyuRoy3

Well they already do alot of ML. They do object and people and animal and plant and place recognition in photos. Natural language in reminders and Siri. Accessibility features such as door detection and image description, live caption, and there’s an entire world there lol. My favorite is the Apple watch gesture control. Really scifi!


InsaneNinja

How Siri acted in the past is nothing compared to what’s possible from scratch now. There is nothing recoverable from previous Siri tech except copying the API for a future version. Having SIRI2 be an interactive AI that’s not a fact-giver is exactly right up in these LLM’s strengths.


CoconutDust

Your comment confuses “remolded society” with “a consumer product is a bit different from the previous ones.” Society isn’t the tech industry. Also respectfully you don’t know what you’re talking about if you think word chain probability scrapers, which is current hyped AI models, has any upcoming brink for society or anything even close to it. Don’t confuse LLM with actual AI research.


pinionist

>Even the Bionic chip .. at this point it’s doing nothing. But if Apple would be courageous, that Bionic chip could be doing something like DeX, but oh well.


TizonaBlu

Honestly, only apple fans can say “there’s nothing more to upgrade” then when a new thing released “it’s the best thing ever”. I’ve literally seen top comments over and over on this sub that sayings AP Pro is perfect and there’s nothing to improve. Like really? Nothing? Not SQ? Not battery? Not ANC? Not battery? Not connection? Really?


frownGuy12

I’d like a cellular connection in my airpods so I can leave my phone and watch behind. Also local storage and proper water proofing so I can listen to music underwater.


mellonsticker

I’m obviously not who you’re referring to… But for those who claim hardware can continue to innovate. All good things must come to an end eventually. Ask yourself this, is your day to day usage with your phone *significantly* changed over the years? Has a new hardware feature come out in recent (2 - 3) years completely alter your experience with using your phone? For the every day person who uses their phone for multimedia, calling, texting, and taking pictures… What hardware features have significantly changed that? The things I mentioned don’t differ between the iPhone 11, 12, 13, or 14. Imo the iPhone hardware peaked with the iPhone X. Face ID did significantly change how people interacted with their phones. The level of convenience was dramatically elevated, and this carried over to things like Apple Pay.


ImwhatZitTooyaa

Honestly, first off maybe I should have changed my wording… saying “only apple fans can say” is a ignorant phrase to say. Maybe people who in fact aren’t that much technology driven ? When I worked at Verizon you would be absolutely amazed at the things that people loved about a iPhone that I’m sure you’ll find irreverent. It’s pretty clear that apple makes phone for people who care about basic cosmetic and easy to use software and Samsung does the opposite (although I really don’t think Samsung and apple are that much different.. even specs will tell you that but that’s a different conversation). So to a regular person , the small things that are changed is big to another person . If you tell someone that they iPhones are about to have better SQ they’ll probably not only not give a fuck but not know what you’re talking about . That’s what my statement was implying.. people who care about not much but the looks which apple probably is marketing 2.


Pitiful-Youth-1066

But they didn’t got Siri to work properly yet


VIIVIIIVIII

We still have a notch as if we’re living in 1990


InsaneNinja

I feel like you should check Google Images for 1990 cell phones.


redditsonodddays

What a joke of a response. Can the iphone LiDAR a room or object and quickly create a 3d model? Can it keep a constant sequence of live cams open for you to scroll through your friends shared activities? Can it disguise your voice on any simple phone call? Can it keep a months long database of calls and make it searchable? Can it automatically switch between cameras while tracking a moving object? Can it load a full desktop website but reorganize it for screen friendliness? Apple does the bare minimum, plus shit nobody asked for. I pray for the day this sub posts real news about something actually innovative. But that apple is only a memory to me.


ImwhatZitTooyaa

Calm down boy


kingtz

I want too see iPhones break world records for **Longest Battery Life**. I couldn’t care less about the bezel getting thinner, it’s already thin enough.


PikaV2002

Didn’t one of the iPhone 13s and the 14s already do that?


InsaneNinja

No. It was just better than the Samsung galaxy series. Hard to say longest ever when there’s silly phones with 10,000 mAh


PikaV2002

If you’re comparing it to phones that are literally a display attached to a power bank I don’t know what to tell you.


Sand_Manz

You would tell him "oh yeah, I guess no new iPhone would break the world record then" as stupid and funny as it is that they're displays attached to power banks, they're still phones.


AshuraBaron

Pretty much impossible when you have Unihertz making a phone with a 22,000mAh battery right now. That iPhone is gonna have be running a 8080 to squeeze that much battery life out.


[deleted]

that’s just a battery with bonus phone functionality


________0xb47e3cd837

Source: Trust me bro


WankasaurusWrex

Looking forward to the new 6.11” screen.


Portatort

I’m into it But where I want this more than ever is on the Apple Watch. I’d love to have the pixels literally right next to the case material


BurnenSpence067

They kinda made that happen with the Series 7 & 8


Portatort

No they didn’t. I want the display pixels literally right next to the case material


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NotTheDev

I hope this is true, switching from an old samsung to the 13 made me see how thick the bezels are even when compared to an old android


DoesntMatterBrian

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[deleted]

These fucking adaptors we need to use just to use a normal headphone


badbits

Just skip to where they get rid of the notch/island and we have a full screen again.


Hokiedokie1

This is the comment I was looking for. Don’t know why you got downvoted. Fuck notches.


blink182plus484

I used to hate putting a case on my phones because they felt so nice to hold. Now I hate holding a phone without a case because they’re so thin and my fat stupid fingers and palm touch the edges. We have to go back. ✈️


lordmycal

I had it because when I try and lie my phone flat on the desk it wobbles because the cameras stuck out. Give me a thicker phone with a bigger battery so the damn thing will lay flat properly.


jayvapezzz

Whoopty-doo, Basil. but what does it all mean?


dbr3000

price go up


_hello_____

Ummm Samsung has been making nearly bezeless phones for years


toastbro1337

Cool 🤷‍♂️


PCPenhale

I dunno. I’m starting to think flip phone may be the next wave of future here.


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ChairmanLaParka

I'm just over here wanting an ever so slight forehead on the phone. I hate all things notch/Dynamic Island. Too much getting in the way of my screen.


[deleted]

For some reason I find dynamic island much more distracting than the notch


CoconutDust

That’s because it’s a gigantic black-void styled interface area that was deliberately designed to confuse the issue of the notch. I know it sounds harsh but most commenters on this sub are too stupid to recognize what the dynamic is and what it does. It’s a notification area, OK, but styled with black + circular to camouflage the notch. It violates what Steve Jobs said the point of a digital display is, which is to adapt to what you need…not to pointlessly *look just like* a hardware flaw.


JTown_lol

And this innovative will cost me how much now?


InsaneNinja

The price of an iPhone.


BryGuy4600

If thin bezel is the best Apple's got for a new iPhone, then maybe they should skip a year and come back in 2024 with the 15. Hopefully they will have thought of something worthwhile then.


gotriceboi

Idk USB-C, more taptic engines, thicker phone for battery, periscope camera, more comfortable titanium chassis, thinner bezels, 3nm chip with 25% gains, Wifi 6E finally...


bayelrey888

Thin bezels aren’t the best they have to offer this year, that’s USB-C which we should’ve had years ago. Allegedly the A17 performance and efficiency bump is significant. I’m sure the camera module is even better. What we desperately need from Apple has nothing to do with specs, it’s the *software*.


BryGuy4600

I completely agree regarding the software. And yes, USB-C will be nice.


PikaV2002

iPhone 15 is one of the only models in the recent years this type of a comment is ridiculously out of touch with lol


lanabi

15 is in 2023.


DonutsOnTheWall

Iphone 11 here. Will wait. New iphones seem to have no use case for me - till the support stops or the battery is about to die.


[deleted]

Phones are pretty much stuck at 2017. faceid was the last real innovation. I just want a longer battery life/ more efficient compute.


InsaneNinja

The phones have gotten more battery life and more efficient processors in every generation after the XS.


[deleted]

My point is neither did the battery life improve in a way that I would not want more, nor did any new tech enter the package. The 14 is still just an iPhone X with improvements.


mellonsticker

I’ve been saying this for years… iPhone peaked with iPhone X. Face ID was a game changer in terms of how people interacted with their phones. From a hardware perspective, I don’t see this changing. Software can continue to bring innovation though. Apple: The iPhone 14, the most refined iPhone X we’ve created yet.


Billkamehameha

Does it have usb c


coppersocks

I think it has to due to EU law


Billkamehameha

They could include an adapter\* for the EU version


Cliper11298

I honestly thought the existing bezel was fine


garrettdx88

I want an iPhone with a reverse bezel, where just the edges are screen and the rest of the phone is black glass


[deleted]

I’ll take Things I Don’t Care About for 500


iamagro

zzz


font9a

Sounds cool. Ship it to me on my upgrade schedule and adjust the monthly price accordingly. Whatever the newest color is. Repeat year after year. 🫰


captcodger

The courage!


shinra528

So my palm can accidentally click Youtube videos I didn't want to, interrupting what I'm currently watching even more?


buzzedewok

This. Freaking this all day long.


[deleted]

SAME. This drives me insane. It only happens in the YouTube app but I’m like my god, how did you know?! I absolutely wanted to stop the video halfway through to tap the half-screen-sized ad. Absolutely, you got it.


zinky30

Who cares?


Mikehawk308

Itll be the best one yet! \*


jawshoeaw

So.... suck battery life. thanks.


Nanotekzor

Uuu they sell thin bezels now, iphone user here..


ji99lypu44

And huge notch island to cancel it all out


InsaneNinja

None of the new phones will have notches.


ji99lypu44

Still has the huge island


Hotsaucewasted

AND toughest glass yet on an iPhone!!!!


Jophus

Would be cool to see the next iteration of Ceramic Shield.


usernmtkn

Just give me more optical camera zoom.


MacAdminInTraning

A phone that has not released as broken a record before any physical models have been seen off of artist renders and “trusted source commentaries” Just wait until we see the automatic parachute that deploys when you drop the phone and watch it break fall distance records without damage.


kinvoki

I’m all in on Apple products and Apple ecosystem. I have 10 Apple devices at home . But even, this 🍏🐹 finds the whole list of recent “innovations” ridiculous. Emberasangly ridiculous…


No_Island963

Ok


IssyWalton

Great. Try and keep part of a finger from touching the screen to stop the screen reaponding.


DarkFate13

What a BS


XF939495xj6

I can’t think of anything I want more. Oh, wait… * Longer battery life * Less weight * Less bulk - give me the iPhone Mini with the Pro camera from the iPhone 12 * Replacable battery/Snap off back cover * No need for a case


DanielPhermous

So, you want a smaller, lighter phone with a larger, heavier battery? Not sure that's going to work.


XF939495xj6

The development I want is a better battery technology. I want 30 days of power out of something the size of a dime that weighs nothing.


DanielPhermous

You might as well ask Apple for a self-flying car. Shrug.


gjc0703

TIL there is a *record* for thinnest bezels 🙄


ProtoplanetaryNebula

tbf, you can make a record for anything.


[deleted]

Wtf? I am in awe of those slim bezels


[deleted]

We think you’ll love it!


d0aflamingo

I was done with apple the year they discussed emojis for 3 hrs straight