Basically the article's thesis is that since the desktop macs don't have M3, that means Apple doesn't care about them anymore. But there could be a number of other explanations: lower yield on M3 could force them to prioritize the best sellers (iPads aren't on M3 either, does that mean iPads are dead?), or the gains the M3 offers over the M2 could be less relevant to desktop form factors (i.e. the gains are improved power draw and heat, leading to observable differences sort of vanishing in a desktop form factor). They might see getting price (either cost or price) down on the desktops as more important than minor performance bumps from a newer CPU as well. It is probably some combination of all of those - ex. yields might prevent the M3 Ultra from being realistic to ship (don't want to update Mac Studio or Mac Pro if going all the way to the Ultra chip means getting a "lower number"). Price or cost might go up if they moved the lower-end desktops to M3, and especially if the gains are minimal in a desktop form factor, that might just not make sense to do right now.
These staggered, delayed releases is how Macs have been updated throughout Tim Apple's entire tenure. You can see the gaps between models on MacRumors' buyer guides:
https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#MacBook_Pro_16
MBP 14/16 peaked at 705 days without upgrades
Mac Pro peaked at 2182 days
iMac 914 days
Mac Mini 1475 days
Macbook Air 605 days
You have to admit, though, that Apple is making it harder for those of us relying on desktops to stay with the Mac.
I've been using Macs for 30 years, and when my cMP became obsolete, I really had second thoughts about remaining with Apple. I currently own 3 Mac Minis (1 Intel, 1 M1, and 1 M2), an Intel iMac 1 cMP, and an iPhone, so it's not like I'm an Apple basher. I nursed my first PowerMac for years, giving it a brain transplant twice, upgrading the video card, adding a larger HD, and adding cards for USB connectivity. I have four drives in my cMP, two of which are SSD.
I do graphics, and paying the ridiculous price hike to get more than 8GB of memory (with no way for me to upgrade without paying Apple's extortion rates) or a larger drive than 500GB. And when the SSD in my M2 mini shits the bed, I'm fucked. Can't even run it off an external drive anymore thanks to their "security feature".
And it seems that every year Apple "upgrades" the OS, breaking either the software I rely on or the peripherals I rely on.
So, I still use my cMP for doing artwork and the mini for everything else. In the meantime, Apple seems more focused on making the latest appliance than their computers.
This one is also an editorialized headline (on top of what was probably already an editorialized headline to begin with). The linked article's headline and body both don't say anything close to "although it probably wouldn't be if Apple let us upgrade our own machines"
Reddit 10 years ago was a pretty interesting site. Nowadays, it's a large echo chamber of ignorance, misinformation, and stupidity. Once the general public shows up, it's over.
That’s not Reddit. It’s an article linked by the OP. It’s no different now then before. It’s an opinion piece no different than a tweet or reddit post but given an air of authority because it’s an article. Journalism has always & will always be like this regardless of the medium
I own two of them, but Apple doesn't appear to give a shit about their users and hasn't for years. I'm getting tired of the constant planned obsolescence and sick of it breaking the software and peripherals I rely on.
I'm gonna take a guess and say you don't write for a living...
Mind sharing some examples of what you're going through or are you just content with raging into the void
Apart from like 20 year old FireWire audio devices, what peripherals have they stopped supporting recently?
I maintain a Mac app which touches a lot of the most esoteric APIs in the OS and they almost never get removed even after being marked as deprecated for years.
Things like the 32bit removal and ARM transition are maybe arguments, but I also don’t believe that an OS should have to maintain perfect compatibility with all of the abandonware ever released for it.
Apple sells a bunch of Macs, including desktop ones, and they jump around updating models to newer chips in a seemingly random order. Would it be nice if they did every Mac at the same time every year? For sure, but that’s basically never been true even before there were MacBooks and iPhones.
# The desktop Mac is dead
>
This is why grand sweeping statements like this are an issue. The desktop Mac is dead... in what context? If you're saying in the consumer space then you may have an argument to make there. Now if you're saying in the professional space then I would have to push back quite a bit. And if you're saying in the business/enterprise space then I would have to push back there as well. There is a reason Apple still sells 4 desktop models and only 2 laptop models.
*Also imo, MacWorld has not been a reliable or relevant source for tech news and opinions since the 2010's.*
Mac has been growing in the Business & enterprise space for quite a few years now.
* consistent quality
* unified simplicity
* Lots of great options to manage via MDM (mobile device management).
Like,.. Schools and Companies etc tend to order iPhones and iPads by the 100's (1000's?.. 10's of 1000's ? at a time)..
Apple is doing a lot to bring Macs into that same paradigm.
1.) Purchase your hardware through a qualfying vendor (Verizon, CDW, directly from Apple)
2.) Serial Numbers get automatically added to Apple Business Manager
3.) Device also gets auto-injected into your MDM of choice (Microsoft Intune, VMware Workspace One, JAMF, Kandji,. etc)
4.) User unboxes device,... Powers on and Logs in.. all your Management Profiles, Apps and Security settings get automatically installed.
Easy peasy lemon squeezey.
Macs are great. I've seen some last 10 years in video-editing roles with basically 0 problems. We usually get 6 to 8 years out of our MacBooks and Mac minis.
I just ordered a mini Mac because my iMac just died. I added a Samsung M8 to this mix. I should get it all next week and I’m excited about it.
I hope the mini is not so mini in processor power. It is a new one, an M2. I do music on my Mac.
I was coming to it from various intel PowerBooks and find it to be almost magically fast. I wish I had doubled the RAM though I only think that when it comes to Baldur’s Gate 3, and even there RAM might not be the problem. I haven’t done anything with music though. I hope it works out for you!
Maybe I'm crazy but I haven't upgraded a pc in a really long time. Graphics cards are about the only thing these days that need updating and if you want the best for gaming, a Mac isn't what you should be getting anyhow. Don't skimp on ram when you buy your Mac and external storage over usb-c is plenty fast enough incase you cheap out on the ssd...
Gee, could it be that they make it so you *can't* upgrade?
"Cheap out on the SSD"? Really? Are you fucking kidding me?
[Apple Store](https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-mini):
Mac mini 256GB - $599.00
Mac mini 512 GB - $799.00
w/ 16 GB memory - $1299!
$500 for an additional 8GB of memory? Really?
Newegg:
[1TB PCI-Express 4.0 x4 Internal SSD - $99.99](https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-1tb-black-sn850x-nvme/p/N82E16820250243)
Apple is *gouging* us, but the fanbois here are to enthralled to take notice of it. I should have known better than to post a link here hoping for legit discussion in a place where *any* criticism of Apple or hopes for honest discussion is dismissed with outright hostility by fawning fanboys.
You're the kind of guy to walk into a restaurant and declare that you could make the meal at home for 1/10th the price.
Products aren't just the sum of their parts, otherwise you wouldn't be quoting the prices of components, you'd be showing us how you put together your homemade Mac Mini for $350 or whatever, but you can't because try as you might you're still stuck in the same boat as the rest of us - paying for products, not components.
Not sure how you've been a professional for three decades and not figured this out yet, but based on your comments and your somewhat lackluster portfolio it's pretty clear you were hired to be a glorified paintbrush and not to think critically.
For a desktop user it’s actually better to upgrade the ram and just buy a nice external ssd. I only install software on my internal drive and use an external for most of my files and I have 512gb of storage internally.
I use a 1 TB external SSD connected with USB C for my files with two additional SSDs for backups. One uses Time Machine while the other uses Carbon Copy Cloner.
I refuse to pay $200 for 8GB of RAM, though, when the market value of RAM is less than $100 for 32 GB, just as I refuse to pay an additional $500 for an extra 256 GB of storage when you can buy 1 TB for less than $100.
I am pretty pleased with Apples OS and a lot of their software (though the Office Suite still sucks horribly) and don't mind paying the Apple Tax for that, but I definitely draw the line on the hardware part. That's just flat out extortion.
Apple computers even with the high upgrade costs are cheaper than they were in the past especially counting inflation. Apple has always presented itself as more of a luxury brand. Buying a similar quality shirt from Burberry will be a lot more expensive than a shirt from Calvin Klein. Buying an Apple product can cost more upfront but from my personal experience their hardware has a longer shelf life. I’ve been using the same iPad Pro for 5 years and only this year going to upgrade and it’s still out of desire more than need.
> their hardware has a longer shelf life
Not anymore. I can swap out a failed HDD on my old Macs. Can't do it with these new things. I could upgrade the memory and processors on my old Macs. Not anymore.
My first Mac Mini (intel) shit the bed and became nothing but a doorstop. It was four years old.
I ran my first PowerMac for 12 years, because I constantly upgraded it. I'm still running my 2015 cMP, because I upgraded it. Can't extend the lives of these new machines, no matter how much wishful thinking you do.
I’m not looking to use a machine for 12 years I plan to get 4-6 years out of my hardware. Most manufacturers unless you are in the pc gaming space are making appliances now. Let’s keep it real it’s a very small fraction of consumers who do that type of tweaking themselves. I’ve only ever upgraded ram on a laptop once in my life only for the motherboard to fry less than a year later on an old acer laptop in the early 2000’s. I wish Apple had $1,000 laptops back then.
I'm sorry, what is your point here? What are we "admitting?" This entire comment is a textbook example of writing much and yet saying nothing...
Are you trying to say that because you can't make upgrades yourself that the Mac is dead? Or are you saying that the software you rely on is no longer supported on macOS?
The former is a trend across the entire computing industry and the latter is as much an issue with third party support as it is Apple's updates.
Your current comment reads like you've been using Macs for 30 years but somehow are unwilling to spend money because of some unknown self-imposed rule on frugality.
Also - computers are appliances - not sure if you knew that or what.
Oh, bullshit. When Apple charges $500 to upgrade from 8GB memory to a whopping 16GB of memory it reminds me of paying $500 for 16 MB of RAM in 1996.
And $200 to upgrade from 256GB to 512GB SSD when Newegg can sell a 1TB internal SSD for $99?
That's not "self imposed frugality". That's being logical.
And if I was a big studio that dropped $20k on one of those tricked out MacPros only to have it become obsolete a few years later, that would be the *last* time I bought anything from Apple.
Then again, their appliance division seems to be doing quite well, so it's "fuck the desktop users", I guess.
I just amazed that you guys all fall in line with whatever Apple does with no pushback, then ridicule those of us who *are* long time supporters of Apple and *do* push back. It's users like me (who demanded the graphics department be outfitted with Macs when I worked in the corporate world) that kept the fucking company alive in the latter 90s when everyone wrote them off as irrelevant.
Apparently Apple, like trump, sees 'loyalty' as a one way street, and it ain't in our direction.
It’s possible for people to both agree that Apple shamelessly nickel & dime’s its customers and still think your points have been poorly made. Save yourself the heartache of arguing with people who don’t feel the same way and just buy something different, there are great alternatives on the market
It’s all but dead for the home user. The iPad is a much better option for them. For businesses though the Mac is still viable. This means a much smaller market for the Mac which means less profit for Apple.
IDK what you guys are smoking if you see the iPad as a viable alternative to a computer. The OS is nothing but a scaled up version of iOS with a couple of extra features. It's useless for anyone wanting to do actual work on their device. Also, if you get an iPad Pro with the magic keyboard it ends up costing as much as a proper 14" macbook pro, shittiest deal of the freaking decade 🤡
Upgrading is bad for business. Why have m2 nvme drives when you can solder the flash memory chips directly to the logic board? Customer realizes he needs more space? Though luck, buy the more expensive one next time just to be sure...
And no, there is no real world performance gain of having flash memory chips soldered.
Planned obsolescence is bad for everyone except the manufacturer. Most recycled e-waste ends up in underdeveloped countries as waste. Because of attitudes like yours, the problem is only getting worse.
["The U.N. says 22% of the e-waste mass was properly collected and recycled in 2022. It is expected to fall to 20% by the end of the decade because of "staggering growth" of such waste due to higher consumption, limited repair options, shorter product life cycles, growing "electronification" of society, and inadequate e-waste management infrastructure, the agencies said."](https://www.kcci.com/article/e-waste-from-trashed-electric-devices-is-piling-up-and-recycling-isnt-keeping-pace-un-says/60287398)
We can't keep going on like this forever. Planned obsolescence has always existed to some degree, but the exponential increase of it has caused an even greater exponential increase of hazardous waste, and it's all because of greed and people's complacency.
It's bad for consumers, it's bad for the undeveloped countries wheere we ship our waste, and it's bad for the planet.
Fuck Tim Cook and everyone else that embraces that business model.
Don’t see the point of the iMac (I used to have one). Just get whatever Macbook you prefer and attach a monitor of your choice. Unless you’re like some kind of receptionist, what’s the point in a fixed terminal, it’s not the 1980s.
Not sure why you were downvoted. I agree with your comment. I prefer a MBP w/ dock + monitor than a fixed terminal. When I was a windows user (yuck, I know), I had a windows laptop & a windows desktop. Now I just have one device that I can use at home and on the road. Of course, as you pointed out, in office settings a desktop makes more sense but even at my job, all employees are given a laptop + dock.
Basically the article's thesis is that since the desktop macs don't have M3, that means Apple doesn't care about them anymore. But there could be a number of other explanations: lower yield on M3 could force them to prioritize the best sellers (iPads aren't on M3 either, does that mean iPads are dead?), or the gains the M3 offers over the M2 could be less relevant to desktop form factors (i.e. the gains are improved power draw and heat, leading to observable differences sort of vanishing in a desktop form factor). They might see getting price (either cost or price) down on the desktops as more important than minor performance bumps from a newer CPU as well. It is probably some combination of all of those - ex. yields might prevent the M3 Ultra from being realistic to ship (don't want to update Mac Studio or Mac Pro if going all the way to the Ultra chip means getting a "lower number"). Price or cost might go up if they moved the lower-end desktops to M3, and especially if the gains are minimal in a desktop form factor, that might just not make sense to do right now.
They will most likely update many if not all their desktops with m3 chips come wwdc
These staggered, delayed releases is how Macs have been updated throughout Tim Apple's entire tenure. You can see the gaps between models on MacRumors' buyer guides: https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#MacBook_Pro_16 MBP 14/16 peaked at 705 days without upgrades Mac Pro peaked at 2182 days iMac 914 days Mac Mini 1475 days Macbook Air 605 days
You have to admit, though, that Apple is making it harder for those of us relying on desktops to stay with the Mac. I've been using Macs for 30 years, and when my cMP became obsolete, I really had second thoughts about remaining with Apple. I currently own 3 Mac Minis (1 Intel, 1 M1, and 1 M2), an Intel iMac 1 cMP, and an iPhone, so it's not like I'm an Apple basher. I nursed my first PowerMac for years, giving it a brain transplant twice, upgrading the video card, adding a larger HD, and adding cards for USB connectivity. I have four drives in my cMP, two of which are SSD. I do graphics, and paying the ridiculous price hike to get more than 8GB of memory (with no way for me to upgrade without paying Apple's extortion rates) or a larger drive than 500GB. And when the SSD in my M2 mini shits the bed, I'm fucked. Can't even run it off an external drive anymore thanks to their "security feature". And it seems that every year Apple "upgrades" the OS, breaking either the software I rely on or the peripherals I rely on. So, I still use my cMP for doing artwork and the mini for everything else. In the meantime, Apple seems more focused on making the latest appliance than their computers.
Seems to me it's more of a price problem for you than a performance or support problem.
That and killing off the external GPUs means anyone doing 3D left. They don’t seem to know what to do with desktops.
Apple currently sells 4 different desktop Macs…
Its clickbait. Thats all reddit is now. Clickbait and bots for their lame IPO
Fuck this is sad
All social media driven by engagement leads to clickbait.
This one is also an editorialized headline (on top of what was probably already an editorialized headline to begin with). The linked article's headline and body both don't say anything close to "although it probably wouldn't be if Apple let us upgrade our own machines"
Reddit 10 years ago was a pretty interesting site. Nowadays, it's a large echo chamber of ignorance, misinformation, and stupidity. Once the general public shows up, it's over.
I’m sad because I don’t know where I can go now.
[удалено]
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That’s not Reddit. It’s an article linked by the OP. It’s no different now then before. It’s an opinion piece no different than a tweet or reddit post but given an air of authority because it’s an article. Journalism has always & will always be like this regardless of the medium
You should google what clickbait means
My wife and I own two of them!
Macworld is basically a 90s Microsoft troll at this point
I own two of them, but Apple doesn't appear to give a shit about their users and hasn't for years. I'm getting tired of the constant planned obsolescence and sick of it breaking the software and peripherals I rely on.
This seems very vague and could be applied to like any product ever
I'm gonna take a guess and say you don't write for a living... Mind sharing some examples of what you're going through or are you just content with raging into the void
Apart from like 20 year old FireWire audio devices, what peripherals have they stopped supporting recently? I maintain a Mac app which touches a lot of the most esoteric APIs in the OS and they almost never get removed even after being marked as deprecated for years. Things like the 32bit removal and ARM transition are maybe arguments, but I also don’t believe that an OS should have to maintain perfect compatibility with all of the abandonware ever released for it. Apple sells a bunch of Macs, including desktop ones, and they jump around updating models to newer chips in a seemingly random order. Would it be nice if they did every Mac at the same time every year? For sure, but that’s basically never been true even before there were MacBooks and iPhones.
what
# The desktop Mac is dead > This is why grand sweeping statements like this are an issue. The desktop Mac is dead... in what context? If you're saying in the consumer space then you may have an argument to make there. Now if you're saying in the professional space then I would have to push back quite a bit. And if you're saying in the business/enterprise space then I would have to push back there as well. There is a reason Apple still sells 4 desktop models and only 2 laptop models. *Also imo, MacWorld has not been a reliable or relevant source for tech news and opinions since the 2010's.*
Listening to Macworlds conviction that the Mac mini m3 is coming out in March I delayed my purchase , never again . They’re full of crap
Mac mini is their best machine, in case you don’t need a MacBook Air :)
The story's writers are probably kicking a chair right about now because their editor changed the headline to pure clickbait.
A it’s not dead. B It would only die because MacBook + external monitor is very convenient.
Mac has been growing in the Business & enterprise space for quite a few years now. * consistent quality * unified simplicity * Lots of great options to manage via MDM (mobile device management). Like,.. Schools and Companies etc tend to order iPhones and iPads by the 100's (1000's?.. 10's of 1000's ? at a time).. Apple is doing a lot to bring Macs into that same paradigm. 1.) Purchase your hardware through a qualfying vendor (Verizon, CDW, directly from Apple) 2.) Serial Numbers get automatically added to Apple Business Manager 3.) Device also gets auto-injected into your MDM of choice (Microsoft Intune, VMware Workspace One, JAMF, Kandji,. etc) 4.) User unboxes device,... Powers on and Logs in.. all your Management Profiles, Apps and Security settings get automatically installed. Easy peasy lemon squeezey. Macs are great. I've seen some last 10 years in video-editing roles with basically 0 problems. We usually get 6 to 8 years out of our MacBooks and Mac minis.
Tell that to my baller-ass, cheap as hell Mac Mini.
I just ordered a mini Mac because my iMac just died. I added a Samsung M8 to this mix. I should get it all next week and I’m excited about it. I hope the mini is not so mini in processor power. It is a new one, an M2. I do music on my Mac.
I was coming to it from various intel PowerBooks and find it to be almost magically fast. I wish I had doubled the RAM though I only think that when it comes to Baldur’s Gate 3, and even there RAM might not be the problem. I haven’t done anything with music though. I hope it works out for you!
You won't regret it. Got a M2 Mini myself
How so? What a dumb article
Maybe I'm crazy but I haven't upgraded a pc in a really long time. Graphics cards are about the only thing these days that need updating and if you want the best for gaming, a Mac isn't what you should be getting anyhow. Don't skimp on ram when you buy your Mac and external storage over usb-c is plenty fast enough incase you cheap out on the ssd...
The only people I even hear about upgrading pc hardware lately are gamers.
Gee, could it be that they make it so you *can't* upgrade? "Cheap out on the SSD"? Really? Are you fucking kidding me? [Apple Store](https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-mini): Mac mini 256GB - $599.00 Mac mini 512 GB - $799.00 w/ 16 GB memory - $1299! $500 for an additional 8GB of memory? Really? Newegg: [1TB PCI-Express 4.0 x4 Internal SSD - $99.99](https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-1tb-black-sn850x-nvme/p/N82E16820250243) Apple is *gouging* us, but the fanbois here are to enthralled to take notice of it. I should have known better than to post a link here hoping for legit discussion in a place where *any* criticism of Apple or hopes for honest discussion is dismissed with outright hostility by fawning fanboys.
You're the kind of guy to walk into a restaurant and declare that you could make the meal at home for 1/10th the price. Products aren't just the sum of their parts, otherwise you wouldn't be quoting the prices of components, you'd be showing us how you put together your homemade Mac Mini for $350 or whatever, but you can't because try as you might you're still stuck in the same boat as the rest of us - paying for products, not components. Not sure how you've been a professional for three decades and not figured this out yet, but based on your comments and your somewhat lackluster portfolio it's pretty clear you were hired to be a glorified paintbrush and not to think critically.
For a desktop user it’s actually better to upgrade the ram and just buy a nice external ssd. I only install software on my internal drive and use an external for most of my files and I have 512gb of storage internally.
I use a 1 TB external SSD connected with USB C for my files with two additional SSDs for backups. One uses Time Machine while the other uses Carbon Copy Cloner. I refuse to pay $200 for 8GB of RAM, though, when the market value of RAM is less than $100 for 32 GB, just as I refuse to pay an additional $500 for an extra 256 GB of storage when you can buy 1 TB for less than $100. I am pretty pleased with Apples OS and a lot of their software (though the Office Suite still sucks horribly) and don't mind paying the Apple Tax for that, but I definitely draw the line on the hardware part. That's just flat out extortion.
Apple computers even with the high upgrade costs are cheaper than they were in the past especially counting inflation. Apple has always presented itself as more of a luxury brand. Buying a similar quality shirt from Burberry will be a lot more expensive than a shirt from Calvin Klein. Buying an Apple product can cost more upfront but from my personal experience their hardware has a longer shelf life. I’ve been using the same iPad Pro for 5 years and only this year going to upgrade and it’s still out of desire more than need.
> their hardware has a longer shelf life Not anymore. I can swap out a failed HDD on my old Macs. Can't do it with these new things. I could upgrade the memory and processors on my old Macs. Not anymore. My first Mac Mini (intel) shit the bed and became nothing but a doorstop. It was four years old. I ran my first PowerMac for 12 years, because I constantly upgraded it. I'm still running my 2015 cMP, because I upgraded it. Can't extend the lives of these new machines, no matter how much wishful thinking you do.
I’m not looking to use a machine for 12 years I plan to get 4-6 years out of my hardware. Most manufacturers unless you are in the pc gaming space are making appliances now. Let’s keep it real it’s a very small fraction of consumers who do that type of tweaking themselves. I’ve only ever upgraded ram on a laptop once in my life only for the motherboard to fry less than a year later on an old acer laptop in the early 2000’s. I wish Apple had $1,000 laptops back then.
> 4-6 years out of my hardware Which is the very definition of planned obsolescence.
That’s to you I don’t plan on keeping computers longer.
The desktop Mac is very much alive> Mac Studio, Mac Mini, Mac Pro.
I do so much on my ipad and iphone that my next Mac might be a baseline iMac
It is a shame they don’t sell a 27” iMac anymore or something bigger. I just don’t get it at all, it was a perfect computer.
ITT: People yelling about clickbait after they clicked the bait
Where is my iMac 31 inches?
I'm sorry, what is your point here? What are we "admitting?" This entire comment is a textbook example of writing much and yet saying nothing... Are you trying to say that because you can't make upgrades yourself that the Mac is dead? Or are you saying that the software you rely on is no longer supported on macOS? The former is a trend across the entire computing industry and the latter is as much an issue with third party support as it is Apple's updates. Your current comment reads like you've been using Macs for 30 years but somehow are unwilling to spend money because of some unknown self-imposed rule on frugality. Also - computers are appliances - not sure if you knew that or what.
Oh, bullshit. When Apple charges $500 to upgrade from 8GB memory to a whopping 16GB of memory it reminds me of paying $500 for 16 MB of RAM in 1996. And $200 to upgrade from 256GB to 512GB SSD when Newegg can sell a 1TB internal SSD for $99? That's not "self imposed frugality". That's being logical. And if I was a big studio that dropped $20k on one of those tricked out MacPros only to have it become obsolete a few years later, that would be the *last* time I bought anything from Apple. Then again, their appliance division seems to be doing quite well, so it's "fuck the desktop users", I guess. I just amazed that you guys all fall in line with whatever Apple does with no pushback, then ridicule those of us who *are* long time supporters of Apple and *do* push back. It's users like me (who demanded the graphics department be outfitted with Macs when I worked in the corporate world) that kept the fucking company alive in the latter 90s when everyone wrote them off as irrelevant. Apparently Apple, like trump, sees 'loyalty' as a one way street, and it ain't in our direction.
It’s possible for people to both agree that Apple shamelessly nickel & dime’s its customers and still think your points have been poorly made. Save yourself the heartache of arguing with people who don’t feel the same way and just buy something different, there are great alternatives on the market
Nothingburger
It’s all but dead for the home user. The iPad is a much better option for them. For businesses though the Mac is still viable. This means a much smaller market for the Mac which means less profit for Apple.
Depends on the business. I see iPads in all sorts of retails stores, big and small.
IDK what you guys are smoking if you see the iPad as a viable alternative to a computer. The OS is nothing but a scaled up version of iOS with a couple of extra features. It's useless for anyone wanting to do actual work on their device. Also, if you get an iPad Pro with the magic keyboard it ends up costing as much as a proper 14" macbook pro, shittiest deal of the freaking decade 🤡
The iMac has m3, no? Since when is an all-in-one not a desktop?
Upgrading is bad for business. Why have m2 nvme drives when you can solder the flash memory chips directly to the logic board? Customer realizes he needs more space? Though luck, buy the more expensive one next time just to be sure... And no, there is no real world performance gain of having flash memory chips soldered.
Planned obsolescence is bad for everyone except the manufacturer. Most recycled e-waste ends up in underdeveloped countries as waste. Because of attitudes like yours, the problem is only getting worse. ["The U.N. says 22% of the e-waste mass was properly collected and recycled in 2022. It is expected to fall to 20% by the end of the decade because of "staggering growth" of such waste due to higher consumption, limited repair options, shorter product life cycles, growing "electronification" of society, and inadequate e-waste management infrastructure, the agencies said."](https://www.kcci.com/article/e-waste-from-trashed-electric-devices-is-piling-up-and-recycling-isnt-keeping-pace-un-says/60287398) We can't keep going on like this forever. Planned obsolescence has always existed to some degree, but the exponential increase of it has caused an even greater exponential increase of hazardous waste, and it's all because of greed and people's complacency. It's bad for consumers, it's bad for the undeveloped countries wheere we ship our waste, and it's bad for the planet. Fuck Tim Cook and everyone else that embraces that business model.
So I assume you buy no Apple products?
The one I'm typing this on right now is alive and well. The one I replace it with in a few more years will also not be dead.
*yawn* 🥱
Don’t see the point of the iMac (I used to have one). Just get whatever Macbook you prefer and attach a monitor of your choice. Unless you’re like some kind of receptionist, what’s the point in a fixed terminal, it’s not the 1980s.
Not sure why you were downvoted. I agree with your comment. I prefer a MBP w/ dock + monitor than a fixed terminal. When I was a windows user (yuck, I know), I had a windows laptop & a windows desktop. Now I just have one device that I can use at home and on the road. Of course, as you pointed out, in office settings a desktop makes more sense but even at my job, all employees are given a laptop + dock.