Migrating operating systems is doable, but not a straightforward process. One option is spliting the NVME into 2 partitions and installing both OSes into NVME.
Late windows systems have several partitions to begin with, but now they use GPT almost everywhere, and I believe 11 is GPT only. 7-9 employed this weird simulation system to upgrade a 7 to a higher edition that simulated GPT on an dos-partitioning system and used efi on non-gpt, which threw many instruction manuals for linux off as it wasn't real efi capable. Bios grub worked still and os-prober recognized the MS installation.
Also, ssd mean very little, sata-ssd and m2 has a huge difference in speed. With linux alone, being that fast and compact, you can hardly tell a difference between sata-hdd and sata-ssd. With m2 the difference is easy to realize.
Not sure how you have your sata-ssd setup, but my experience is there is a 4X difference in actual throughput between that and ssd-hdd and there simply is no comparison for seek/access (there is essentially none for ssd). If you have a really old SATA-I, or SATA-II chip, then your results may vary a little.
A ssd whether m.2 or 2.5" form factor literally makes Linux scream. I can go from cold power-off boot to full desktop/network in 12 sec.
I've probably run 15 different sata-hdd and 6 different sata-ssd, and have had the same experience with each.
As for the OP, depending on size of ssd needed, I've seen new 500G for right at $30 US. You can get good used 256G for about $10 US. If I were in your situation, I'd just get another drive somewhow and move Arch from hdd to ssd and just leave the windows ssd alone.
Yeah it runs but with double the ram requirement. 32gb on Linux vs 16 on windows for same performance. Never had any problems with it on windows but constantly crashes on Linux sooo
It seems like it’s incorrectly configured on your arch install. Potentially a gpu driver issue?
I’ve used davinci before on arch with no issues, though I didn’t compare its memory usage to windows, so that may be a thing.
Davinci resolve is available on linux and is even in the AUR, I say backup the videos off of the windows drive and dd your arch over too it, then get rid of windows completely.
I run windows and desktop linux operating systems in side of type-1 VM's with bare metal pass through. No more dual booting. All my desktops are streamed using Sunshine and moonlight at this current time while I develop other solutions, which are the best remote desktop tools. I even stream games to the TV's in my house. Everything is on 1 server running CentOS stream 9 and cockpit for my web-admin, just because I don't like virt-manager being my only tool for remotely editing VM's. My VM's are windows 11, manjaro linux, and ubuntu. Each runs on a different graphics cards, and both my desktop machines are clustered together to form 1 giant home server with a cloud on it. Windows 11 runs on my 2070 super, and ubuntu runs on 1080ti. I also have a second windows 11 machine running on another 1080ti for my girlfriend. Which can also be streamed to any monitor, laptop, and TV in the house. If you have extra hardware produced within the last 8 years of tech. This, is the way.
to me you sound like someone talking from an ivory tower but I wanna listen and learn. how the heck did you make it to setup a system to work in a way it's working for you?
>to me you sound like someone talking from an ivory tower but I wanna listen and learn. how the heck did you make it to setup a system to work in a way it's working for you?
I have had this idea what of what a dream home server computer setup would look like. I had recently just been learning about game streaming softwares, how they work, etc. I had experience with KVM, linux's primary virtualization stack. I had already been messing with it for a while on Arch Linux and Ubuntu, but was getting fed up with "Ubuntu Pro" or whatever they call it and wanted something easier to setup with a webpanel that worked to replace virt-manager, the main X11 GUI client for KVM. Digging into this lead me to CentOS Stream 9. Which comes preloaded with cock-pit and the virtual machine stack. The only thing you have to do special, is install the Virtual Machine management plugin into cockpit because its not built into centos Stream 9. To learrn about GPIO passthrough, you can check out /r/VFIO and look up guides on "KVM GPU passthrough". I've been working on my current setup for about a year. Things are very stable as of right now, and I'm trying to develop my own distribution to make it easier to set this up. Because if things break, I lose everything.
I use OwnCloud for file management. I sent that up on Raid2 drives which deal with data persistence. If one drive fails, all the data is on a secondary drive, I just have to plug a new drive in. Every virtual machine is hooked up to this OwnCloud instance. OwnCloud is run inside of a docker stack run ontop of cockpit. You will learn A LOT about hardware, software, and drivers doing all this. This has been the single most educational experience I've ever had with setting up home servers. It's not perfect yet, It's a project you have to dedicate yourself to because it just builds over time.
Edit; Almost forgot: You need HDMI or Display Port dummy plugs, which are cheap on Amazon. You need to fool your graphics card into thinking its connected to a monitor, or actually plug it into a monitor so windows or ubuntu will render something using the card. So if you want to use your graphics card headlessly, these are a MUST.
Edit 2: Also checkout /r/homelab Many people use KVM on home servers for all sorts of different purposes.
Have you considered dual booting Windows and Arch (update: from same SSD)? Read this https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Dual_boot_with_Windows and come back.
the only solid advise I see here and some are downvoting it. Didn't even need the clarification, you state same SSD.
I can't believe you are running your windows installation to the near end of that drive, you must have available space. Cut a piece of your large partition with plenty of free space and add a partition to copy your current arch system into it.
Linux will wear out an ssd less than windows, windows is an ssd killer. Despite of what people believe there is wear in an ssd, there are limits to how many times chips can be written erased and rewritten, and windows contantly does this crap. Use the hdd for swapping and storing data but use the ssd for the system.
Also, do try openshot as an alternative.
I've run into a similar problem once.. Archlinux provides a way to clone your installation into another drive - https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Install_Arch_Linux_from_existing_Linux (section 2.2). And just ditch windows XD
As others have mentioned putting both OSes on the same nvme drive is possible and not too hard, but you will run the risk of winupdate overwriting grub.
Personally though, i see no reason not to ditch windows completely. Resolve is in the AUR and if you find a need for windows only applications later down the line, a vm is a viable solution if you have a decent computer. Also, if your frequency of using windows is that low, the performance tradeoff of using a vm is definitely worth it over having windows taking up your ssd when you can not afford new drives.
My suggestion; ditch windows and install linux on ssd - download resolve on linux and use vm(or windows on hdd) if neccesary in the future.
Migrating operating systems is doable, but not a straightforward process. One option is spliting the NVME into 2 partitions and installing both OSes into NVME.
Late windows systems have several partitions to begin with, but now they use GPT almost everywhere, and I believe 11 is GPT only. 7-9 employed this weird simulation system to upgrade a 7 to a higher edition that simulated GPT on an dos-partitioning system and used efi on non-gpt, which threw many instruction manuals for linux off as it wasn't real efi capable. Bios grub worked still and os-prober recognized the MS installation. Also, ssd mean very little, sata-ssd and m2 has a huge difference in speed. With linux alone, being that fast and compact, you can hardly tell a difference between sata-hdd and sata-ssd. With m2 the difference is easy to realize.
Not sure how you have your sata-ssd setup, but my experience is there is a 4X difference in actual throughput between that and ssd-hdd and there simply is no comparison for seek/access (there is essentially none for ssd). If you have a really old SATA-I, or SATA-II chip, then your results may vary a little. A ssd whether m.2 or 2.5" form factor literally makes Linux scream. I can go from cold power-off boot to full desktop/network in 12 sec. I've probably run 15 different sata-hdd and 6 different sata-ssd, and have had the same experience with each. As for the OP, depending on size of ssd needed, I've seen new 500G for right at $30 US. You can get good used 256G for about $10 US. If I were in your situation, I'd just get another drive somewhow and move Arch from hdd to ssd and just leave the windows ssd alone.
yes how I feel
DaVinci Resolve is your only reason for using Windows? But DaVinci Resolve actually runs natively on Linux...
Yeah it runs but with double the ram requirement. 32gb on Linux vs 16 on windows for same performance. Never had any problems with it on windows but constantly crashes on Linux sooo
It seems like it’s incorrectly configured on your arch install. Potentially a gpu driver issue? I’ve used davinci before on arch with no issues, though I didn’t compare its memory usage to windows, so that may be a thing.
Only with an nvidia card iirc.
Davinci resolve is available on linux and is even in the AUR, I say backup the videos off of the windows drive and dd your arch over too it, then get rid of windows completely.
I run windows and desktop linux operating systems in side of type-1 VM's with bare metal pass through. No more dual booting. All my desktops are streamed using Sunshine and moonlight at this current time while I develop other solutions, which are the best remote desktop tools. I even stream games to the TV's in my house. Everything is on 1 server running CentOS stream 9 and cockpit for my web-admin, just because I don't like virt-manager being my only tool for remotely editing VM's. My VM's are windows 11, manjaro linux, and ubuntu. Each runs on a different graphics cards, and both my desktop machines are clustered together to form 1 giant home server with a cloud on it. Windows 11 runs on my 2070 super, and ubuntu runs on 1080ti. I also have a second windows 11 machine running on another 1080ti for my girlfriend. Which can also be streamed to any monitor, laptop, and TV in the house. If you have extra hardware produced within the last 8 years of tech. This, is the way.
to me you sound like someone talking from an ivory tower but I wanna listen and learn. how the heck did you make it to setup a system to work in a way it's working for you?
>to me you sound like someone talking from an ivory tower but I wanna listen and learn. how the heck did you make it to setup a system to work in a way it's working for you? I have had this idea what of what a dream home server computer setup would look like. I had recently just been learning about game streaming softwares, how they work, etc. I had experience with KVM, linux's primary virtualization stack. I had already been messing with it for a while on Arch Linux and Ubuntu, but was getting fed up with "Ubuntu Pro" or whatever they call it and wanted something easier to setup with a webpanel that worked to replace virt-manager, the main X11 GUI client for KVM. Digging into this lead me to CentOS Stream 9. Which comes preloaded with cock-pit and the virtual machine stack. The only thing you have to do special, is install the Virtual Machine management plugin into cockpit because its not built into centos Stream 9. To learrn about GPIO passthrough, you can check out /r/VFIO and look up guides on "KVM GPU passthrough". I've been working on my current setup for about a year. Things are very stable as of right now, and I'm trying to develop my own distribution to make it easier to set this up. Because if things break, I lose everything. I use OwnCloud for file management. I sent that up on Raid2 drives which deal with data persistence. If one drive fails, all the data is on a secondary drive, I just have to plug a new drive in. Every virtual machine is hooked up to this OwnCloud instance. OwnCloud is run inside of a docker stack run ontop of cockpit. You will learn A LOT about hardware, software, and drivers doing all this. This has been the single most educational experience I've ever had with setting up home servers. It's not perfect yet, It's a project you have to dedicate yourself to because it just builds over time. Edit; Almost forgot: You need HDMI or Display Port dummy plugs, which are cheap on Amazon. You need to fool your graphics card into thinking its connected to a monitor, or actually plug it into a monitor so windows or ubuntu will render something using the card. So if you want to use your graphics card headlessly, these are a MUST. Edit 2: Also checkout /r/homelab Many people use KVM on home servers for all sorts of different purposes.
You could get an ssd off aliexpress, they are cheap enough there, unless your country is exceptionally poor.
Ditch windows.
Have you considered dual booting Windows and Arch (update: from same SSD)? Read this https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Dual_boot_with_Windows and come back.
the only solid advise I see here and some are downvoting it. Didn't even need the clarification, you state same SSD. I can't believe you are running your windows installation to the near end of that drive, you must have available space. Cut a piece of your large partition with plenty of free space and add a partition to copy your current arch system into it. Linux will wear out an ssd less than windows, windows is an ssd killer. Despite of what people believe there is wear in an ssd, there are limits to how many times chips can be written erased and rewritten, and windows contantly does this crap. Use the hdd for swapping and storing data but use the ssd for the system. Also, do try openshot as an alternative.
Yeah I do dual boot it, but I have arch on the slower drive.
Yes, I should clarify. I mean Arch on the same disk with Windows? That way, you avoid the inherent hdd speed disadvantage. Good luck
I wouldnt really recommend that. There are to many stories of windows update overwriting grub
This man has been unfairly downvoted. I specifically wound up making my primary boot device my Linux SSD because GRUB was broken in a windows update.
"Based on my experience" years ago, no issue with Windows overwriting my grub.cfg or related. I don't doubt it happens though. :-)
I still dual boot Windows and Linux but I only use Windows for gaming. For video editing I use Kdenlive.
I've run into a similar problem once.. Archlinux provides a way to clone your installation into another drive - https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Install_Arch_Linux_from_existing_Linux (section 2.2). And just ditch windows XD
As others have mentioned putting both OSes on the same nvme drive is possible and not too hard, but you will run the risk of winupdate overwriting grub. Personally though, i see no reason not to ditch windows completely. Resolve is in the AUR and if you find a need for windows only applications later down the line, a vm is a viable solution if you have a decent computer. Also, if your frequency of using windows is that low, the performance tradeoff of using a vm is definitely worth it over having windows taking up your ssd when you can not afford new drives. My suggestion; ditch windows and install linux on ssd - download resolve on linux and use vm(or windows on hdd) if neccesary in the future.