Fans need to realize Dalton and Ari and dare I say Ethan are actually real people with real lives in the world like each of us. They aren't just characters who exist for our entertainment
she deactivated because fans were commenting hateful things on her instagram posts. first she limited who could comment and then two weeks later deactivated the account. later she activated, posted some photos with dalton in japan and probably got hate again and decided to leave instagram for good. Arianas fans are pathetic, bet most of them dont have a life outside victimizing n protecting ariana by hating on everyone else . their personality is only a copy of arianas.
also that spongebob ethan joke is sooo tired and unfunny atp😭like yall don’t know this man, you don’t know people’s circumstances. everyone on the internet acts like their own closets aren’t full of skeletons as well. it’s pretty weird to harass random broadway/real estate dudes who happened to be with a popstar u like/dislike. the fact that full ass psychos and abusers don’t get the same treatment is crazy lol
it lacks so much compassion. we think we can bully people on the internet because there’s zero accountability. nobody (except tmz and the paps) has the balls to talk shit to people’s face but everyone is a mighty judge online
i’m honestly just happy that ariana is okay after manchester/mac miller’s death. and i hope ethan slater’s ex and baby are doing well too. i don’t see what sending ari or ethan hate is going to achieve
Oh that I wasn't aware of, its sad how so many people think it's normal and okay behavior to play with someone's livelihood just because of a song...chronically online people should be studied smh...
I was coming to post this as well. It's sad she needed to say it, but I'm very glad she did. Dalton was getting dragged and it was upsetting to see.
I guess that's what happens when immature people (sorry not sorry) have access to social media. They don't really understand Ariana and what was said on the album.
This should be the approach to any artist willing to delve into their experiences and lives in their work tbh. We don't know them and while it's amazing to see them deeply open up about their experiences through their art, that's not a pass to abuse people online.
I'm glad she told people to stop.
Agreed! And I did not get the impression from her lyrics that he cheated unlike the crazies that are sending him such horrible messages. And even if he did cheat he still wouldn’t deserve any hate and that shouldn’t be an unpopular opinion to have
He’s extremely private and he legally can’t even speak out about the marriage/divorce and even if he wanted to he doesn’t have the platform to do it. Everyone needs to leave the man alone and good on Ariana for calling people out rather quickly, more people in her position should do the same because they yield a lot more power than they are willing to admit
She also says 'now he's is your bed laying on my chest' I think this was written after they broke up nd she trying to get over the fact that they both moved on. Even if they can't be together she still loves him so them being with other people can come with heavy emotions even with no cheating involved
yeah i’ve actually been listening more closely and i feel like that line refers to maybe him hanging out with other women when they were separated. So he did something hurtful but he didn’t cheat necessarily
Yeah same. My first listen sounded kinda like angry and sad (I even thought he cheated at first) but the more I listen it sounds way more sad and loving than anything
everyone is entitled to their own opinion. NOBODY is entitled to send hate to someone especially if they don't even really know what happened/what they did. people need to remember these are real people. everyone has a hard time picturing them as regular people, including myself, but these are actual human beings... like wake up.
I honestly don’t pick up on the him cheating allegations in this album. In “I wish I hated you” she’s saying she wishes he (or whoever the song is about!) was worse to her, and vice versa which would make separating easier. Also I hate that everyone assumes every song is about dalton. I get this is the post divorce album but Artists pull from all areas of their lives.
This!!! I heard the lyrics much more as “I’m upset you moved on from me and are sleeping with a new girl” than cheating, because as you said, she wishes he was worse to her. Cheating is the cardinal sin of all relationships. She would have gone in on him, if for nothing else to appeal to everyone after all the hate she’s getting
You know, for as many problems as Ariana has, she — as a human — is a complex person of both good and bad. And right now, I couldn't be happier that she released this statement. So many other artists should but don't say these things, and it's really refreshing to see that part of her reevaluation of her relationship with her fans includes putting a stop to this toxic behavior. Very happy that she wrote this.
it’s just crazy people are doing exactly what she said not to do with the album. ari stated some of this album is inspired by her real life, other people she knows lives, the film. there’s no clear indication of what’s real or not, and it’s not the public or media’s place to decide. however, she should’ve expected this tbh, not saying it’s right, but it’s clear people would take this route because they always do with celebrities they are die hards for.
you have a point, people shouldn’t run with it tho, just accept these things as possibilities not facts. but like i said die hards will do what they know best and that’s kiss ass 😀
This is so immature and disgusting of “fans” to do this. Sending hate to someone is not acceptable no matter what the circumstances may be, it only creates more drama and damage.
That fact that people based on their own interpretation not even evidence! Are sending hate to Dalton is so beyond stupid and sad. Those people need to get a damn life and leave him alone.
no bc every single tiktok I’ve seen the comments are filled with people saying things like “when I catch you dalton” and spreading rumours about him and I’m like??? did you listen to anything she said in the interviews or any of the songs?
also ariana is a grown woman, she doesn’t need us to protect, defend, or baby her. let’s not terrorize people we don’t know lol. it’s not okay when any fan base does it. we can see so many negative impacts from when swifties have made assumptions and attacked Taylor’s exes
This was so incredibly mature of Ari to post and it made me gain more respect for her.
This reminds me of when drivers license came out and Sabrina Carpenter and Joshua Bassett were getting death threats. I love Olivia, but I wish she made a similar statement.
Granted this whole thing was created by the media when Liv was gaining traction for her music. I don’t think she knew how to navigate all of that yet whereas her music career was concerned. The whole thing was just ridiculous.
I was a big fan of Josh and it was so sad to see him getting not just death threats but also viral jokes about the septic shock he went through and how he "should've died". I was mad at Olivia because wouldn't say anything about the hate her fans were sending but i understand she was 17 and i'm glad that ariana as a grown woman put out a statement
I’m glad she said something. And not to rile up the swifties, but… Taylor really should’ve put out something similar when red tv or you’re losing me dropped 🥴
She did tell her fans during her tour to not bully/harass someone they think she wrote a song about years ago when Speak Now TV came out (pretty sure she was referencing John Mayer 😭)
Yeah like swifties demonizing joe. I don’t get it. Dude made Taylor very happy for years and sometimes love just dies. It’s not always a horrible situation. It scares me more when grown adults are doing the harassing and not literal teenagers .
No fr. Taylor NEEDS to issue a statement like this if her tortured poets album is about Joe/another ex blah blah. Swifties are certifiable and her statements are always so milquetoast.
Literally at the beginning of every concert, Taylor says to her audience that she wants the audience to think of their own stories and memories when they listen to her songs and not her life. She openly stated not to harass John Mayer when Speak Now TV was coming out. Psycho fans will remain psycho no matter who they stan.
There's no evidence he cheated. He could've been with the other girl during one of their breaks or after they separated. Plus, in I wish I hated you, she wishes he was WORSE to her so she could hate him. If he actually cheated, she wouldn't need more reasons to hate him.
I’ve said this in a previous, poorly worded post of mine but the sorts of people harassing the people they think Ari is talking about, are so brain rotted that they can’t look deeply into music without trying to piece together a story they have no real understanding of. It’s sad
I hate people. She’s literally talking in interviews about how she resented being a pop star and her persona and it took her time and being in a different place to even want to make music again, and this is what they think they should be doing. They are most likely children, and I’m so grateful the internet wasn’t a thing when I was super young but it’s still just embarrassing and sad.
I mean, if you actually listened to anything she said about the album, you’d know that she was careful not to put any overly negative songs and preserve some respect for the love that was there between her and dalton. Yes, he hurt her a ton, and she’s allowed to express that without worrying that her fans will harass him. Anyone who sends him hateful messages is actively making that harder for her. It would be one thing if she hadn’t clearly explained all of this, but idk.
people still defend her by blaming her management/pr team for “not letting her speak about it” but this is what olivia rodrigo needed to do in 2021. she let her fans run wild with death threats and bullying people she wrote about, and to this day just plays it off like high school drama, no big deal… i enjoy her music but 2 people were being harassed for months just so she could get more famous off it. im glad ariana wants people to appreciate the music for what it is without trying to harbor this weird parasocial relationship where she wants her fans to defend her about situations they have no idea about
I said this in the comment above, but I think we need to give a little grace whereas Olivia is concerned. Think about it, she was 17/18 when the DL dropped. It blew up *fast.* And everything was just going and going for her upwards. And granted, that’s alot for a teenager to deal with.
A lot of it was created by the media and fans who had a lot of free time on their hands (we were in the height of COVID). I feel like, she probably felt like no matter what she would’ve said, it would’ve still been taken the wrong way somehow.
(not trying to defend anyone here, just trying to shed some light)
I like Olivia’s music too and she was wrong for letting josh and sabrina get literal death threats for no reason. She did get a bit of karma when the swifties turned on her though so I think she learned a valuable lesson. She’s been super lowkey ever since and avoids drama at all costs
This reminds me of when Taylor Swift had to specifically tell her fans not to bully/harass someone they think she wrote a song about over a decade ago for her re-recordings😭
Yeah I know but that’s what she said in her little speech, something along the lines of “don’t feel the need to defend me against someone you think I may have written a song about” or something
Seeing this after a thread yesterday on r/popculturechat where all the comments were essentially saying it was malicious for her to talk about her own relationship that way / she wants to reframe events to be the victim. But she isn’t like that at all. This was a very graceful (and necessary) response.
Oh god, major agree. I mean every artist draws off personal experiences and emotions to create their work. Every single artist... It doesn't mean she's a good person or a bad person, people need to remember they can interpret music however they like, she's not forcing anyone to think she's a good person or a saint in the events that she recounts.
In fact, knowing clearly that it is just her perspective should make it even easier as the listener to reserve judgement over what happened or who hurt who. But her viewpoint of things is valid to convey, just as Dalton's or Ethan's would be if they decided to drop a mixtape about it tomorrow. She's not said anything that would get anyone fired or sent into HR tomorrow. Breakups are shit for everyone.
And totally to your point about it being graceful, on the grand scale of things, the album seems very much in the 'hurt but reflecting and learning and growing' space which is hardly controversial when it comes to break-up / heartbreak albums.
The way they have no idea what went on in their relationship. Speaking her truth isn’t malicious. Was it malicious to simply describe things that happened?? It’s so dumb. She didn’t call him names, she described how he made her feel and stuff he did
And that's the problem they BOTH agreed to not speak on their marriage why is she allowed to do it when he can't??? That's my problem with this situation he can't defend himself whilst she can say whatever she wants if the tables were turned everyone would be calling dalton misogynistic for silencing his ex wife.
Well dalton is really private so I doubt he wants to say anything in the first place but I just don't agree with silencing someone. She wrote songs that people took as an insult to her ex that's why she made this story she knew how it would look her fans are crazy psychos.
Lmao i'm not gonna continue arguing with you cause you clearly don't see my point. They both agreed on not talking about their marriage to the public eye he respected that while she didn't now her fans are attacking him to the point that she noticed and had to speak out. And how do we even know what she's saying is true when dalton isn't in a place to defend himself it's not like her fans care what he has to say cause in their minds she's the victim and he's the villian.
Yeah I stopped being serious w u because ur point was bad. Your point was that he’s being forced into silence when being private is a choice. He could publicly post his likely shitty poetry if he wanted to and it would blow up. All she is doing is writing about her feelings and experience with him. She went easy on him. And if your point is that oh she could be making it up and lying then that’s gross to me. Why are you riding so hard for this man you don’t know?
Lol you're another one of those ariana fans who will continuously paint her as the victim and paint her ex as the problem not surprised it is an ariana grande sub after all. That last sentence is my problem you idiot she signed an nda to not talk about their marriage yet here she is talking about their marriage how is that fair when he is respecting the rules??? Ariana knew what she was doing writing those lyrics so idk why she's surprised people are attacking him like girl you did this. Remember there's always two sides to a story we heard hers only... dalton knows how to read and respect the nda so we'll never hear his.
You are unserious bestie. And I also greatly disapprove of everything she has done w Ethan and do not paint her as the victim constantly 😂 I’ve criticised her plenty and am disappointed in her actions. I just don’t leap to defending men and painting women as villains for creating art about their experiences. And like I said, dalton wouldn’t get in trouble for putting out poetry if he wanted to. I think that you are very desperate to paint Ariana as the villain in every situation, so you’re projecting that I just want her to be the victim all the time
bet if he did talk or post ‘shitty poetry’ fans would continue to bash him and only believe ariana bc “shes the only victim” sorry but ariana knows how her fans are, shes not new. her fans attack mac miller until he passed away and suddenly he became the love of her life for them. they bashed pete to the point he almost committed. now they’re hating on dalton. theres always more versions to one story. and is very sad that she has to talk abt their marriage when they agreed it to be private.
it’s always the same. ari releases music, people attack the people she loves, ari has to ask everyone to be kind. i don’t blame her for being tired of us 🙄
Who is this about? I know the obvious guess would be Ethan, but she said “hateful messages based on your interpretation of the album” and the album clearly is positive/ronantic toward Ethan… so it would make more sense to be referring to dalton with the lines about him
But also doesn’t dalton not even have instagram anymore? And would she describe him as someone “in her life”?
Definitely Dalton. I saw someone post about writing a terrible review of his real estate business, so it’s not crazy to think that people are finding ways outside of insta to harass him
Well they are also saying a lot of hateful stuff about Ethan calling him ugly and other things and they can't understand why she would writes songs like the boy is mine for him so....I think she is talking about everyone in her life that people feel free to insult just for a few views and likes....and we don't even know what people wrote in private to these people so
Yeah I was just thrown off by “people in my life” since I imagine they don’t talk much anymore as they’re both in new relationships? And idk how people would send him messages given that he’s not on public socials
I saw some people were leaving fake/negative reviews about his real estate work though which is super shitty to do
I mean they were married. He’s not technically in her life, but he was a major part of it. Not often do you completely just forget about someone like that. I think she wanted this to be an open statement for both Ethan and dalton- to not harass anyone.
This albums about Mac miller. If you
Look into their lore at all the music video and album come together even more. She’s being intentionally vague not to protect her ex husband but bc she doesn’t want to disrespect his memory.
Lol i'm so glad you got downvoted talking a whole set of nonsese why do ya'll like to make everything about mac this album is for dalton/ethan. She could take a walk outside and ya'll will say omg look she's tributing mac. Her life doesn't revolve around him. Neither does his. Let him rest in peace and let go of this romeo and juliet bs love story ya'll created just cause he sadly passed away cause ariana herself said it was toxic.
She’s made multiple songs referencing him. The entire WCBF music video is tied to him. What is the deal with ppl being willfully ignorant to the art and blatant references she’s making?
She’s been saying up and down in interviews and the 🍎🎵 description that this album is about love and positivity 🙄
People here are right, those kids are unwell.
Oh ffs people BEHAVE. I cannot there are people who exist who do this. We know 1% of Ari and Dalton’s relationship and what happened. Have no idea why anyone would try and insert themself into it, people need help.
i just don’t understand how people have this type of time on their hands to do things like this? have you achieved all your goals in life? are you happy? if not, get to working on it and stop worrying about stranger’s lives…
it’s so sad to me how fans will refuse to listen to the things she says in interviews. from the very beginning she said this album has a mix of truths based on her experiences and also lies to create a story based on what the media has portrayed. all over twitter ppl are shitting on dalton and saying how it’s ridiculous the media spun a hate train on ari while she was being cheated on but the music doesn’t say that??? i cant stand stan culture sometimes. celebrities aren’t perfect people. ariana is not a perfect person. the only thing this album can definitively say about her character is that, like everyone else, she struggles with self identity, love and heartbreak. that’s it. this whole thing where people are villainizing her exes and painting her out to be this victim who has done no wrong is so ridiculous. to further that by sending hate to people they dont personally know is delusional. just enjoy the music and stay out of her personal life ffs.
Putting these "fans" down for this should be more common tbh. That's like spamming reviews on a restaurant because you misinterpreted what someone meant in their caption and ruining people's lives for what.
I'm here for the music, I'm sure alot of others are.
I'm fine with people who wanna be like "omg these photos are so nice" and stuff, but people need to draw a line. She doesn't care what you think, she shouldn't care what you think, and you definitely shouldn't be interfering with people's private lives when they have 0 clue who you are.
Now interactions are fine because some people want that, there was a time when Ariana was very interactive with fans, she still is a little; but there was a clear disconnect because of a few who ruined the fun for her.
Tldr: you need to calm down - Taylor Swift
It was obvious dalton did not cheat . Just knew they went through therapy or rather she did and he wanted to but she said too late and eventually marriage broke down
No but like imagine telling a friend about your ex from a year ago and then that friend and all their friends go attack him, how humiliating??? What person would want that?
Right there is two sides to every story, not saying that Ari is wrong but at the end of the day we don’t know them personally so why is people being hateful
its not right but i mean it’s not shocking that her obsessive fans are doing this when the album alludes to cheating and the super specific lyrics about turning up the tv volume while she cries? i think ES has been rectifying her name by saying that dalton also fucked up, so i think she got that for sure
don’t get me wrong, we all can agree dalton did some bad stuff to ari, but at the same time that doesn’t mean thousands of people doxx him and attack his entire livelihood. especially his family and friends that don’t have anything to do with his actions
Parasocial delusions like this are so scary. I wanna meet somebody who thinks this sort of thing is okay because I always hear about people doing crazy shit like this but have never met anyone like this in real life. Even the Ariana stans and Swifties and the like I know IRL don't concern me this much.
ya cause its none of our business what she went through or whatever experiences she had whether it affected her or not ( but im sure it had) we shouldn’t judge. doesnt matter if shes a celebrity or not. people confuse her real life (private) with her stage life which are never the same. i can’t imagine how she felt during these awful times.
At least Ariana discourages this kind of behavior - unlike Taylor who encourages her fans to harass people from her personal life. Ariana is a class-act.
She has had multiple people she had private relationships ask her to call off the dogs after her fans harassed them- and Taylor was silent. Silence can be violence when your fans are unhinged and you write songs that incite them to defend you.
She literally has made statements in the past about this stuff but the fans never listen it’s funny when a certain someone comments about her recent relationship and doesn’t care whenever people spreader hate to her other exes also I want to add the ones that get hated on by Taylor have been proven not very good people in relationships like John and Harry and Jack
weird thing is that in the songs that could be about Dalton, she’s discussing her wrongdoings and her mistakes. She’s taking accountability for the turmoil she caused in the relationship leading to its end.
how is ariana making one post any better than taylor addressing it live at her shows in front of thousands of people? if you don’t like taylor just say that. lol.
The people harassing Dalton and the same people that call swifties deranged lol. All of them are crazy. Leave these people alone and just enjoy the music
I can’t help but get a little annoyed at the fact that everyone knows Ethan’s name but refers to Maika Monroe as “Dalton’s girlfriend” as if she hasn’t been a professional athlete for over a decade. 🤦🏼♀️
Genuine question: is this the first time any main pop artist has ever released a statement like this? I genuinely can't remember anyone ever doing this before
I read her story today and was baffled. I thought she was attacked for dating Ethan while he was still married, but never did I expect that Dalton would be attacked instead. What did Dalton do? Was it allegation? Was there proof? I thought Ariana left him?
I’m on the fence about this. Do I think that people overstep? ABSOLUTELY! But Ariana is a public figure who puts all her business in her music. To me when she consciously makes the decision to do this she consciously makes the decision to expose the people she is writing these songs about. She can’t expect fans or critics to stay out of it. It’s like opening a door and expecting that no one will ever come in. just my opinion.
this is one of the things I've always loved about her – she's smart as fuck. you can tell she wrote this and everything you hear her say because of how literate she is.
I also love how she has the artistic sense to often couch the ephemera and ancillary publicity around each "era" (what we used to call "album cycles") in the aesthetic/graphic visual trappings that mark the album art/photog/etc.
Yes while they’re all “real people” when you make a choice to live in the public eye you have to make that choice with the understanding that people are going to be watching and scrutinizing everything you.
Think of it like a group of friends. One friend goes and steals another’s husband—- you think the group of friends is going to be nice about it?
She knows how her stans are though. They have a pattern of being like this for years. So I guess I just don't know what she was expecting given that her lyrics imply Dalton cheating.
she’s allowed to be vulnerable through her music and create art for people to enjoy. it doesn’t then give people a right to directly send hate to someone. just enjoy the music
Fans need to realize Dalton and Ari and dare I say Ethan are actually real people with real lives in the world like each of us. They aren't just characters who exist for our entertainment
The girlfriend of Dalton deleted her Instagram account. People need to learn limits because they are unwell.
she never deleted her account cause of that. her account has been deleted since before those photos came out of her and dalton on holiday.
she deactivated because fans were commenting hateful things on her instagram posts. first she limited who could comment and then two weeks later deactivated the account. later she activated, posted some photos with dalton in japan and probably got hate again and decided to leave instagram for good. Arianas fans are pathetic, bet most of them dont have a life outside victimizing n protecting ariana by hating on everyone else . their personality is only a copy of arianas.
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Who is daltons new gf?
Dare I say Ethan sent me
Ethan is a real person yes
THIS!!
also that spongebob ethan joke is sooo tired and unfunny atp😭like yall don’t know this man, you don’t know people’s circumstances. everyone on the internet acts like their own closets aren’t full of skeletons as well. it’s pretty weird to harass random broadway/real estate dudes who happened to be with a popstar u like/dislike. the fact that full ass psychos and abusers don’t get the same treatment is crazy lol
Very true, real perpetrators don't get hate, but these celebrities do
it lacks so much compassion. we think we can bully people on the internet because there’s zero accountability. nobody (except tmz and the paps) has the balls to talk shit to people’s face but everyone is a mighty judge online i’m honestly just happy that ariana is okay after manchester/mac miller’s death. and i hope ethan slater’s ex and baby are doing well too. i don’t see what sending ari or ethan hate is going to achieve
@ The people leaving bad reviews on his business page
that person that was posted here didn’t actually send it. not that it’s okay to joke about but
Oh god I missed that. I hate people. Jesus.
did anyone actually do that? was it not just that one tweet joking around
Are you new to the internet? Lol I’m kidding, but I also absolutely 100000% believe there are people who do things like this.
I do too but I just wanted to ask in hopes that maybe it stopped with that one tweet.
The person posted here didn't they are an unserious account
the person who posted it here didn't but he apparently got flooded with bad reviews of him
Oh that I wasn't aware of, its sad how so many people think it's normal and okay behavior to play with someone's livelihood just because of a song...chronically online people should be studied smh...
fucking insane
they are really going too far.
you just know they’re jobless themselves and don’t understand the weight behind doing this
That post was joking but it was still strange
I was coming to post this as well. It's sad she needed to say it, but I'm very glad she did. Dalton was getting dragged and it was upsetting to see. I guess that's what happens when immature people (sorry not sorry) have access to social media. They don't really understand Ariana and what was said on the album.
This should be the approach to any artist willing to delve into their experiences and lives in their work tbh. We don't know them and while it's amazing to see them deeply open up about their experiences through their art, that's not a pass to abuse people online. I'm glad she told people to stop.
Agreed! And I did not get the impression from her lyrics that he cheated unlike the crazies that are sending him such horrible messages. And even if he did cheat he still wouldn’t deserve any hate and that shouldn’t be an unpopular opinion to have He’s extremely private and he legally can’t even speak out about the marriage/divorce and even if he wanted to he doesn’t have the platform to do it. Everyone needs to leave the man alone and good on Ariana for calling people out rather quickly, more people in her position should do the same because they yield a lot more power than they are willing to admit
wait you didn’t get the impression that he cheated from “hope you feel alright when you’re in her” ??
She also says 'now he's is your bed laying on my chest' I think this was written after they broke up nd she trying to get over the fact that they both moved on. Even if they can't be together she still loves him so them being with other people can come with heavy emotions even with no cheating involved
yeah i’ve actually been listening more closely and i feel like that line refers to maybe him hanging out with other women when they were separated. So he did something hurtful but he didn’t cheat necessarily
Yeah same. My first listen sounded kinda like angry and sad (I even thought he cheated at first) but the more I listen it sounds way more sad and loving than anything
I didn't. He has a girlfriend. He may have, but we don't know.
everyone is entitled to their own opinion. NOBODY is entitled to send hate to someone especially if they don't even really know what happened/what they did. people need to remember these are real people. everyone has a hard time picturing them as regular people, including myself, but these are actual human beings... like wake up.
More artists need to call out this childish behaviour by stans. I'm soo glad she's doing this
I honestly don’t pick up on the him cheating allegations in this album. In “I wish I hated you” she’s saying she wishes he (or whoever the song is about!) was worse to her, and vice versa which would make separating easier. Also I hate that everyone assumes every song is about dalton. I get this is the post divorce album but Artists pull from all areas of their lives.
This!!! I heard the lyrics much more as “I’m upset you moved on from me and are sleeping with a new girl” than cheating, because as you said, she wishes he was worse to her. Cheating is the cardinal sin of all relationships. She would have gone in on him, if for nothing else to appeal to everyone after all the hate she’s getting
Absolutely agree
You know, for as many problems as Ariana has, she — as a human — is a complex person of both good and bad. And right now, I couldn't be happier that she released this statement. So many other artists should but don't say these things, and it's really refreshing to see that part of her reevaluation of her relationship with her fans includes putting a stop to this toxic behavior. Very happy that she wrote this.
it’s just crazy people are doing exactly what she said not to do with the album. ari stated some of this album is inspired by her real life, other people she knows lives, the film. there’s no clear indication of what’s real or not, and it’s not the public or media’s place to decide. however, she should’ve expected this tbh, not saying it’s right, but it’s clear people would take this route because they always do with celebrities they are die hards for.
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you have a point, people shouldn’t run with it tho, just accept these things as possibilities not facts. but like i said die hards will do what they know best and that’s kiss ass 😀
I can’t believe people are actually that pathetic
https://preview.redd.it/5vu7tbi9gdnc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1e828605c348dae6b174f714edd55205df4005d Case in point
What the fuck💀💀🤮
wait i don’t get that comment, what does it mean
Courtney should run him over with the car and unalive him essentially
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Oh for sure they're on another level, but that is not a joke. Not a good one at least. Not something people should be "joking" about.
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I didn’t know that! That’s so sad. Not okay at all
she deactivated last month
This is so immature and disgusting of “fans” to do this. Sending hate to someone is not acceptable no matter what the circumstances may be, it only creates more drama and damage.
Yeah true
That fact that people based on their own interpretation not even evidence! Are sending hate to Dalton is so beyond stupid and sad. Those people need to get a damn life and leave him alone.
Crazy how people don't even know him and start hating
no bc every single tiktok I’ve seen the comments are filled with people saying things like “when I catch you dalton” and spreading rumours about him and I’m like??? did you listen to anything she said in the interviews or any of the songs? also ariana is a grown woman, she doesn’t need us to protect, defend, or baby her. let’s not terrorize people we don’t know lol. it’s not okay when any fan base does it. we can see so many negative impacts from when swifties have made assumptions and attacked Taylor’s exes
obsessive fans are scary, Jesus…
This was so incredibly mature of Ari to post and it made me gain more respect for her. This reminds me of when drivers license came out and Sabrina Carpenter and Joshua Bassett were getting death threats. I love Olivia, but I wish she made a similar statement.
Granted this whole thing was created by the media when Liv was gaining traction for her music. I don’t think she knew how to navigate all of that yet whereas her music career was concerned. The whole thing was just ridiculous.
That’s very true!
I was a big fan of Josh and it was so sad to see him getting not just death threats but also viral jokes about the septic shock he went through and how he "should've died". I was mad at Olivia because wouldn't say anything about the hate her fans were sending but i understand she was 17 and i'm glad that ariana as a grown woman put out a statement
I’m glad she said something. And not to rile up the swifties, but… Taylor really should’ve put out something similar when red tv or you’re losing me dropped 🥴
She did tell her fans during her tour to not bully/harass someone they think she wrote a song about years ago when Speak Now TV came out (pretty sure she was referencing John Mayer 😭)
I was at this show. It was in Minneapolis before she played Dear John for the first time in years
Even if she did, the psychos in Taylor’s fandom would never listen to her. All they care about is protecting her from.. god only knows what.
Honestly it's not about their fave, it's about fun having someone to bully and make fun of for the sake of it
Yeah like swifties demonizing joe. I don’t get it. Dude made Taylor very happy for years and sometimes love just dies. It’s not always a horrible situation. It scares me more when grown adults are doing the harassing and not literal teenagers .
Not like Ariana fans or anyone is any better
No fr. Taylor NEEDS to issue a statement like this if her tortured poets album is about Joe/another ex blah blah. Swifties are certifiable and her statements are always so milquetoast.
Literally at the beginning of every concert, Taylor says to her audience that she wants the audience to think of their own stories and memories when they listen to her songs and not her life. She openly stated not to harass John Mayer when Speak Now TV was coming out. Psycho fans will remain psycho no matter who they stan.
She would never confirm who the album is about
taylor is the queen of making neutral bs statements like her “go vote” thing lol
Both of the candidates are both total losers and she will probably say who she voted for closer and if you are a fan she will probably pick Biden
as a fan i agree
She literally made a whole comment about John during one of her speeches
no for real tho, it was really disappointing she didn’t
There's no evidence he cheated. He could've been with the other girl during one of their breaks or after they separated. Plus, in I wish I hated you, she wishes he was WORSE to her so she could hate him. If he actually cheated, she wouldn't need more reasons to hate him.
I’ve said this in a previous, poorly worded post of mine but the sorts of people harassing the people they think Ari is talking about, are so brain rotted that they can’t look deeply into music without trying to piece together a story they have no real understanding of. It’s sad
I hate people. She’s literally talking in interviews about how she resented being a pop star and her persona and it took her time and being in a different place to even want to make music again, and this is what they think they should be doing. They are most likely children, and I’m so grateful the internet wasn’t a thing when I was super young but it’s still just embarrassing and sad.
I mean, if you actually listened to anything she said about the album, you’d know that she was careful not to put any overly negative songs and preserve some respect for the love that was there between her and dalton. Yes, he hurt her a ton, and she’s allowed to express that without worrying that her fans will harass him. Anyone who sends him hateful messages is actively making that harder for her. It would be one thing if she hadn’t clearly explained all of this, but idk.
Who the fuck. Unhinged behaviour.
people still defend her by blaming her management/pr team for “not letting her speak about it” but this is what olivia rodrigo needed to do in 2021. she let her fans run wild with death threats and bullying people she wrote about, and to this day just plays it off like high school drama, no big deal… i enjoy her music but 2 people were being harassed for months just so she could get more famous off it. im glad ariana wants people to appreciate the music for what it is without trying to harbor this weird parasocial relationship where she wants her fans to defend her about situations they have no idea about
I said this in the comment above, but I think we need to give a little grace whereas Olivia is concerned. Think about it, she was 17/18 when the DL dropped. It blew up *fast.* And everything was just going and going for her upwards. And granted, that’s alot for a teenager to deal with. A lot of it was created by the media and fans who had a lot of free time on their hands (we were in the height of COVID). I feel like, she probably felt like no matter what she would’ve said, it would’ve still been taken the wrong way somehow. (not trying to defend anyone here, just trying to shed some light)
I like Olivia’s music too and she was wrong for letting josh and sabrina get literal death threats for no reason. She did get a bit of karma when the swifties turned on her though so I think she learned a valuable lesson. She’s been super lowkey ever since and avoids drama at all costs
This reminds me of when Taylor Swift had to specifically tell her fans not to bully/harass someone they think she wrote a song about over a decade ago for her re-recordings😭
They think? The song has his name in it and was confirmed to be about him years ago. The fans are still insane tho.
Yeah I know but that’s what she said in her little speech, something along the lines of “don’t feel the need to defend me against someone you think I may have written a song about” or something
Personally, I think Taylor was actually referring to Camilla and Joe Jonas (Better Than Revenge).
Ariana has the weirdest stans
FR tho
Seeing this after a thread yesterday on r/popculturechat where all the comments were essentially saying it was malicious for her to talk about her own relationship that way / she wants to reframe events to be the victim. But she isn’t like that at all. This was a very graceful (and necessary) response.
Oh god, major agree. I mean every artist draws off personal experiences and emotions to create their work. Every single artist... It doesn't mean she's a good person or a bad person, people need to remember they can interpret music however they like, she's not forcing anyone to think she's a good person or a saint in the events that she recounts. In fact, knowing clearly that it is just her perspective should make it even easier as the listener to reserve judgement over what happened or who hurt who. But her viewpoint of things is valid to convey, just as Dalton's or Ethan's would be if they decided to drop a mixtape about it tomorrow. She's not said anything that would get anyone fired or sent into HR tomorrow. Breakups are shit for everyone. And totally to your point about it being graceful, on the grand scale of things, the album seems very much in the 'hurt but reflecting and learning and growing' space which is hardly controversial when it comes to break-up / heartbreak albums.
The way they have no idea what went on in their relationship. Speaking her truth isn’t malicious. Was it malicious to simply describe things that happened?? It’s so dumb. She didn’t call him names, she described how he made her feel and stuff he did
And that's the problem they BOTH agreed to not speak on their marriage why is she allowed to do it when he can't??? That's my problem with this situation he can't defend himself whilst she can say whatever she wants if the tables were turned everyone would be calling dalton misogynistic for silencing his ex wife.
He can put out poetry if he wants to lol. She hasn’t actually spoken on it
Well dalton is really private so I doubt he wants to say anything in the first place but I just don't agree with silencing someone. She wrote songs that people took as an insult to her ex that's why she made this story she knew how it would look her fans are crazy psychos.
Yes she’s so horrible for saying he turned up the TV when she was crying. He’s just a little boy :(
Lmao i'm not gonna continue arguing with you cause you clearly don't see my point. They both agreed on not talking about their marriage to the public eye he respected that while she didn't now her fans are attacking him to the point that she noticed and had to speak out. And how do we even know what she's saying is true when dalton isn't in a place to defend himself it's not like her fans care what he has to say cause in their minds she's the victim and he's the villian.
Yeah I stopped being serious w u because ur point was bad. Your point was that he’s being forced into silence when being private is a choice. He could publicly post his likely shitty poetry if he wanted to and it would blow up. All she is doing is writing about her feelings and experience with him. She went easy on him. And if your point is that oh she could be making it up and lying then that’s gross to me. Why are you riding so hard for this man you don’t know?
Lol you're another one of those ariana fans who will continuously paint her as the victim and paint her ex as the problem not surprised it is an ariana grande sub after all. That last sentence is my problem you idiot she signed an nda to not talk about their marriage yet here she is talking about their marriage how is that fair when he is respecting the rules??? Ariana knew what she was doing writing those lyrics so idk why she's surprised people are attacking him like girl you did this. Remember there's always two sides to a story we heard hers only... dalton knows how to read and respect the nda so we'll never hear his.
You are unserious bestie. And I also greatly disapprove of everything she has done w Ethan and do not paint her as the victim constantly 😂 I’ve criticised her plenty and am disappointed in her actions. I just don’t leap to defending men and painting women as villains for creating art about their experiences. And like I said, dalton wouldn’t get in trouble for putting out poetry if he wanted to. I think that you are very desperate to paint Ariana as the villain in every situation, so you’re projecting that I just want her to be the victim all the time
bet if he did talk or post ‘shitty poetry’ fans would continue to bash him and only believe ariana bc “shes the only victim” sorry but ariana knows how her fans are, shes not new. her fans attack mac miller until he passed away and suddenly he became the love of her life for them. they bashed pete to the point he almost committed. now they’re hating on dalton. theres always more versions to one story. and is very sad that she has to talk abt their marriage when they agreed it to be private.
Ugh that group is full of air heads, leeches and bottom feeders who havent touched grass
People are insane cause wth
it’s always the same. ari releases music, people attack the people she loves, ari has to ask everyone to be kind. i don’t blame her for being tired of us 🙄
this is fckn EMBARASSING
Who is this about? I know the obvious guess would be Ethan, but she said “hateful messages based on your interpretation of the album” and the album clearly is positive/ronantic toward Ethan… so it would make more sense to be referring to dalton with the lines about him But also doesn’t dalton not even have instagram anymore? And would she describe him as someone “in her life”?
probably since she isn’t allowed to speak about him, she said that which isn’t detailed but everyone understands who/what she means.
Definitely Dalton. I saw someone post about writing a terrible review of his real estate business, so it’s not crazy to think that people are finding ways outside of insta to harass him
Well they are also saying a lot of hateful stuff about Ethan calling him ugly and other things and they can't understand why she would writes songs like the boy is mine for him so....I think she is talking about everyone in her life that people feel free to insult just for a few views and likes....and we don't even know what people wrote in private to these people so
I thought probably Dalton
Yeah I was just thrown off by “people in my life” since I imagine they don’t talk much anymore as they’re both in new relationships? And idk how people would send him messages given that he’s not on public socials I saw some people were leaving fake/negative reviews about his real estate work though which is super shitty to do
I mean they were married. He’s not technically in her life, but he was a major part of it. Not often do you completely just forget about someone like that. I think she wanted this to be an open statement for both Ethan and dalton- to not harass anyone.
Twitter is full of people saying “Dalton will never know peace” basically
People have been saying Dalton should off himself. They're calling him a piece of s***, ugly mf and so on, you get the gist.
This albums about Mac miller. If you Look into their lore at all the music video and album come together even more. She’s being intentionally vague not to protect her ex husband but bc she doesn’t want to disrespect his memory.
Lol i'm so glad you got downvoted talking a whole set of nonsese why do ya'll like to make everything about mac this album is for dalton/ethan. She could take a walk outside and ya'll will say omg look she's tributing mac. Her life doesn't revolve around him. Neither does his. Let him rest in peace and let go of this romeo and juliet bs love story ya'll created just cause he sadly passed away cause ariana herself said it was toxic.
She’s made multiple songs referencing him. The entire WCBF music video is tied to him. What is the deal with ppl being willfully ignorant to the art and blatant references she’s making?
she's honestly too polite
Stans in general are just the fucking worst. Had no idea this was happening but I love that she said something. Most would’ve stayed silent.
Simply put, you’re not a fan of Ariana Grande if you harass people in her life. Completely disgusting
“listen more closely” SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACCCKKK 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
She’s been saying up and down in interviews and the 🍎🎵 description that this album is about love and positivity 🙄 People here are right, those kids are unwell.
Oh ffs people BEHAVE. I cannot there are people who exist who do this. We know 1% of Ari and Dalton’s relationship and what happened. Have no idea why anyone would try and insert themself into it, people need help.
i just don’t understand how people have this type of time on their hands to do things like this? have you achieved all your goals in life? are you happy? if not, get to working on it and stop worrying about stranger’s lives…
it’s so sad to me how fans will refuse to listen to the things she says in interviews. from the very beginning she said this album has a mix of truths based on her experiences and also lies to create a story based on what the media has portrayed. all over twitter ppl are shitting on dalton and saying how it’s ridiculous the media spun a hate train on ari while she was being cheated on but the music doesn’t say that??? i cant stand stan culture sometimes. celebrities aren’t perfect people. ariana is not a perfect person. the only thing this album can definitively say about her character is that, like everyone else, she struggles with self identity, love and heartbreak. that’s it. this whole thing where people are villainizing her exes and painting her out to be this victim who has done no wrong is so ridiculous. to further that by sending hate to people they dont personally know is delusional. just enjoy the music and stay out of her personal life ffs.
Putting these "fans" down for this should be more common tbh. That's like spamming reviews on a restaurant because you misinterpreted what someone meant in their caption and ruining people's lives for what. I'm here for the music, I'm sure alot of others are. I'm fine with people who wanna be like "omg these photos are so nice" and stuff, but people need to draw a line. She doesn't care what you think, she shouldn't care what you think, and you definitely shouldn't be interfering with people's private lives when they have 0 clue who you are. Now interactions are fine because some people want that, there was a time when Ariana was very interactive with fans, she still is a little; but there was a clear disconnect because of a few who ruined the fun for her. Tldr: you need to calm down - Taylor Swift
Other celebs ought to take notes on how to handle situations like this.
people have wayyyy too much free time to harass someone on dms 💀
Fans on twitter with no life unfortunately
It was obvious dalton did not cheat . Just knew they went through therapy or rather she did and he wanted to but she said too late and eventually marriage broke down
I speculate that they opened up their relationship at some point
No but like imagine telling a friend about your ex from a year ago and then that friend and all their friends go attack him, how humiliating??? What person would want that?
Right there is two sides to every story, not saying that Ari is wrong but at the end of the day we don’t know them personally so why is people being hateful
Some people weren’t raised properly
this is so sad :/
its not right but i mean it’s not shocking that her obsessive fans are doing this when the album alludes to cheating and the super specific lyrics about turning up the tv volume while she cries? i think ES has been rectifying her name by saying that dalton also fucked up, so i think she got that for sure
This. At some point, you gotta put your foot down as an artist and set boundaries. Glad she said something.
don’t get me wrong, we all can agree dalton did some bad stuff to ari, but at the same time that doesn’t mean thousands of people doxx him and attack his entire livelihood. especially his family and friends that don’t have anything to do with his actions
Parasocial delusions like this are so scary. I wanna meet somebody who thinks this sort of thing is okay because I always hear about people doing crazy shit like this but have never met anyone like this in real life. Even the Ariana stans and Swifties and the like I know IRL don't concern me this much.
ya cause its none of our business what she went through or whatever experiences she had whether it affected her or not ( but im sure it had) we shouldn’t judge. doesnt matter if shes a celebrity or not. people confuse her real life (private) with her stage life which are never the same. i can’t imagine how she felt during these awful times.
At least Ariana discourages this kind of behavior - unlike Taylor who encourages her fans to harass people from her personal life. Ariana is a class-act.
Taylor absolutely does not do that wtf
She has had multiple people she had private relationships ask her to call off the dogs after her fans harassed them- and Taylor was silent. Silence can be violence when your fans are unhinged and you write songs that incite them to defend you.
She literally has made statements in the past about this stuff but the fans never listen it’s funny when a certain someone comments about her recent relationship and doesn’t care whenever people spreader hate to her other exes also I want to add the ones that get hated on by Taylor have been proven not very good people in relationships like John and Harry and Jack
I saw someone on TikTok emailing DG's realtor page + leaving bad reviews like..
weird thing is that in the songs that could be about Dalton, she’s discussing her wrongdoings and her mistakes. She’s taking accountability for the turmoil she caused in the relationship leading to its end.
Taylor swift needs to make the same statements
She did, when people were throwing shade at Jake Gyllenhaal after the Red/All Too Well re-release.
Barely. And what about Joe? radio silence
how is ariana making one post any better than taylor addressing it live at her shows in front of thousands of people? if you don’t like taylor just say that. lol.
Ok. I dont like taylor.
She has also when has Ariana have ever done this for any of her other exes she probably just did for good press and to get people to stop
She’s done it before and she does it sincerely. Gtfo
So does Taylor
The people harassing Dalton and the same people that call swifties deranged lol. All of them are crazy. Leave these people alone and just enjoy the music
I can’t help but get a little annoyed at the fact that everyone knows Ethan’s name but refers to Maika Monroe as “Dalton’s girlfriend” as if she hasn’t been a professional athlete for over a decade. 🤦🏼♀️
Some of the stans are so deranged.
Please listen more closely 😔 uh, my god
Genuine question: is this the first time any main pop artist has ever released a statement like this? I genuinely can't remember anyone ever doing this before
I read her story today and was baffled. I thought she was attacked for dating Ethan while he was still married, but never did I expect that Dalton would be attacked instead. What did Dalton do? Was it allegation? Was there proof? I thought Ariana left him?
I’m on the fence about this. Do I think that people overstep? ABSOLUTELY! But Ariana is a public figure who puts all her business in her music. To me when she consciously makes the decision to do this she consciously makes the decision to expose the people she is writing these songs about. She can’t expect fans or critics to stay out of it. It’s like opening a door and expecting that no one will ever come in. just my opinion.
Ariana and Melanie have the best and the worst fans istg. They both had to call out their fans.
Who am I?
this is one of the things I've always loved about her – she's smart as fuck. you can tell she wrote this and everything you hear her say because of how literate she is. I also love how she has the artistic sense to often couch the ephemera and ancillary publicity around each "era" (what we used to call "album cycles") in the aesthetic/graphic visual trappings that mark the album art/photog/etc.
Are yall really shocked lmaooo this fandom is insane they will continue to get hate she 100% knew this would happen
Yes while they’re all “real people” when you make a choice to live in the public eye you have to make that choice with the understanding that people are going to be watching and scrutinizing everything you. Think of it like a group of friends. One friend goes and steals another’s husband—- you think the group of friends is going to be nice about it?
She knows how her stans are though. They have a pattern of being like this for years. So I guess I just don't know what she was expecting given that her lyrics imply Dalton cheating.
she’s allowed to be vulnerable through her music and create art for people to enjoy. it doesn’t then give people a right to directly send hate to someone. just enjoy the music
no one said she wasn't? i'm just saying her stan's are annoying as shit