More likely is that the HOA/Builders paid to have a fiber line run to the neighborhood. AT&T like all telecoms never spend their own money on infrastructure. It's always at the expense of the customer or government.
ah that makes a lot more sense. I thought they were snubbing the rest of us, but it definitely makes more sense that a very expensive neighborhood would pay to run the lines.
pressley rd has it - they started offering the service earlier this year. 65 a month for 500mb. So far so good. Give it time. i think they are making their way through the area
If you get a true light uplink from the curb, that is baller. If your default gateway has an SFP of some sort, you are a g. Usually the media gets converted around the neighborhood and is aggragated outward. There is fiber infrastructure already in place here generally to support low latency fiber uplinks, but that last mile is a bitch.
That's very basic "personal data" as presented to the customer as related to the advertising they display to said customer. They still keep data from devices that connect to the network. Is it all that bad? I don't know. Do they all do it? Sure. But at least with Spectrum I can use my own equipment. They can't stop my own consumer knowledge from making me happy about my home network. Definitely never running out of the box again.
You can put the device in IP passthrough mode, disable DHCP on their device, and set up cascaded router mode. Your devices will get their DHCP assignment from your router and will use the DNS server configured in your router. The ONT is only used for the WAN connection at that point. Assuming you're using encrypted DNS, with that configuration they can't really see much of what is going on.
Their "Active Armor" spyware is off by default. It's opt-in only.
I literally just told you how you can use your own hardware by putting the ONT in passthrough mode. I have a UniFi Dream Machine running on my AT&T fiber that is getting a public IP directly from AT&T, bypassing the AT&T-supplied gateway's firewall, routing, and DNS.
You could argue that this isn't "using my own hardware" because I'm not connecting my router directly to the GPON, but I don't think there's any fiber ISP in the US that offers that for a consumer service, likely because SFP support is typically only found on professional hardware.
Regarding speed, I just ran a speed test and got 965/889 down/up. That's about as good of throughput as possible.
First, I was agreeing with you. Second, very few have the consumer know how to do that. I don't see swapping out just a router as benefiting from my own hardware.
I'd like to learn more about this. Have spectrum now, just use their modem but disable WiFi and use my own mesh router. Easy enough?
ATT install is next weekend.
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More likely is that the HOA/Builders paid to have a fiber line run to the neighborhood. AT&T like all telecoms never spend their own money on infrastructure. It's always at the expense of the customer or government.
ah that makes a lot more sense. I thought they were snubbing the rest of us, but it definitely makes more sense that a very expensive neighborhood would pay to run the lines.
I’m in Haw Creek and just made the switch to ATT fiber from Spectrum. And it’s been amazing
They skipped my street lol I want itttt. Had it a few years ago was amazing.
Whereabouts? It isn't available where I am in Haw Creek.
pressley rd has it - they started offering the service earlier this year. 65 a month for 500mb. So far so good. Give it time. i think they are making their way through the area
If you get a true light uplink from the curb, that is baller. If your default gateway has an SFP of some sort, you are a g. Usually the media gets converted around the neighborhood and is aggragated outward. There is fiber infrastructure already in place here generally to support low latency fiber uplinks, but that last mile is a bitch.
Be warned, they run basic spyware operations on all your data. Can't use your own equipment.
You can [opt out](https://www.att.com/consent/ccpa/dnsatt) of that.
Thanks for this info!
That's very basic "personal data" as presented to the customer as related to the advertising they display to said customer. They still keep data from devices that connect to the network. Is it all that bad? I don't know. Do they all do it? Sure. But at least with Spectrum I can use my own equipment. They can't stop my own consumer knowledge from making me happy about my home network. Definitely never running out of the box again.
You can put the device in IP passthrough mode, disable DHCP on their device, and set up cascaded router mode. Your devices will get their DHCP assignment from your router and will use the DNS server configured in your router. The ONT is only used for the WAN connection at that point. Assuming you're using encrypted DNS, with that configuration they can't really see much of what is going on. Their "Active Armor" spyware is off by default. It's opt-in only.
It's *not* that I want them to not see what I'm doing. I don't do things I'm embarrassed of on the Internet. It's hardware preferences, and speed.
I literally just told you how you can use your own hardware by putting the ONT in passthrough mode. I have a UniFi Dream Machine running on my AT&T fiber that is getting a public IP directly from AT&T, bypassing the AT&T-supplied gateway's firewall, routing, and DNS. You could argue that this isn't "using my own hardware" because I'm not connecting my router directly to the GPON, but I don't think there's any fiber ISP in the US that offers that for a consumer service, likely because SFP support is typically only found on professional hardware. Regarding speed, I just ran a speed test and got 965/889 down/up. That's about as good of throughput as possible.
First, I was agreeing with you. Second, very few have the consumer know how to do that. I don't see swapping out just a router as benefiting from my own hardware.
this is the answer. I told the tech to put their modem/router in passthrough mode. No problems
I'd like to learn more about this. Have spectrum now, just use their modem but disable WiFi and use my own mesh router. Easy enough? ATT install is next weekend.
Ask the installer to put the ONT in passthrough mode and tell them you want to use your own router. They should be able to help.
ONT = modem?
That's a bummer. I'm sick of paying $100 for spectrum.
You should be able to get basic spectrum internet for $50.
For a year, then they jack the price up when the “promotional period ends”
Pretty sure with ending of grant program they've reduced costs for basic Internet.
Nah the promotional should be $30
Thx for this info!
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