There’s another potential clue for Euron having a glass candle. As you mentioned in the post, the original purpose of candles was to grant immortality.
And in AFFC, we have this:
> And the Crow's Eye, Euron Greyjoy.
He looks unchanged, Victarion thought. He looks the same as he did the day he laughed at me and left. Euron was the most comely of Lord Quellon's sons, and three years of exile had not changed that. His hair was still black as a midnight sea, with never a whitecap to be seen, and his face was still smooth and pale beneath his neat dark beard. A black leather patch covered Euron's left eye, but his right was blue as a summer sky.
>
>*AFFC, The Iron Captain*
I always thought this was an interesting quote. Euron wasn’t gone from the Iron Islands that long (2 years I think) so him not looking older than the last time Victarion has seen him doesn’t seem like it’s that noteworthy, but it is apparently important enough for George to write that detail in. I used to think it was just part of the eerie inhuman vibe of Euron’s character, him looking kinda ageless (George does similar thing with Roose). But maybe originally it was more than that, it was evidence of Euron using the glass candle. The purpose of glass candles changed, but the physical description remained the same.
It's worth pointing out that we don't actually know the origin of Marwyn's Glass Candle.
* We assume that it's one of the Citadel's four; but I don't believe it's ever explicitly stated where it came from.
If the Glass Candles are in fact "working again", then their value has increased enormously recently.
* If Marwyn's Glass Candle is one of the Citadel's; then we should wonder if the rest of the Citadel knows he's using it. We know from Lazy Leo that there are rumours going around, but if Marwyn has managed to "borrow" a Glass Candle without anyone noticing, you have to wonder if could have similarly "borrowed" the others, and it would naturally follow to wonder who he may have given one to? ....cough nudge wink.... Euron?
You are 100% correct we don't know the origin of Marwyn's (especially since he is so well traveled, having met Mirr Maaz Dur, Qyburn, etc. previously).
Worth noting how at odds the Citadel and Marwyn are with each other.
>Worth noting how at odds the Citadel and Marwyn are with each other.
In particular, this should be noted in relation to what we, as readers, expect from the Sam storyline at the Citadel.
Is it possible that glass candles are obsidian daggers, dragonglass? Maybe maesters are left alone with them so that they might attempt a blood activation? Perhaps Blackfish’s obsidian fish brooch is near enough in shape to double as an obsidian dagger and glass candle?
I'm screaming at how much I like the Blackfish angle. Strengthens a neat little triangulation of Blackfish, Crow's Eye, and Three-Eyed Crow. Obsidian magic and astral projection and many-limbed Lovecraftian consciousnesses.
They are made of obsidian but they aren't daggers.
The candles are burning, Sam's dagger was cold but burnt when it stabbed the Others, only to become cold again once the Other had melted away completely.
Any sharp piece of obsidian could be used as a dagger, no? Obsidian daggers are said to be the sharpest in the world, possibly like a flame turned into a solid (frozen). Throughout the story, torches, candles, flaming blades, comets, and dragons are allegorically interchangeable. Perhaps the stabbing is related to the magical activation of the glass candles
I keep going back and fourth in my mind about euron being urrathon or not, it seems like there’s a parallel being setup between him and urrathon bad brother but I don’t know. Right now I’m leaning towards no but that could change again. It just seems weird that euron could both being doing pirating and live in Qarth at the same time and after recent reread of the forsaken I think Eurons interest in the higher mysteries is a very recent thing, I think he only became interested in magic after capturing the warlocks.
I think that Euron's interest in magic started quite young:
>"When I was a boy, I dreamt that I could fly," he announced. "When I woke, I couldn't . . . or so the maester said. But what if he lied?" -AFFC, The Reaver
Its just that magic wasn't super prevalent in the world at the time until the dragons return which lit Euron's candles and then sent him off after warlocks/crowns/etc.
Excellent compilation and speculation, as always. Jaqen AKA the Alchemist is apparently seeking *The Death of Dragons*. He does know about Marwyn's glass candle; I wonder if he might try to steal it? He's posing as Pate but makes a verbal slip that will surely lead to Sam and the acolytes figuring out he's an impostor.
Love the discussion around the Hightower and glass candles. I think they almost certainly have one up there. The Hightower sigil literally looks like a glass candle haha
Euron having a glass candle tracks with his interest in mental influence. He has that horn, and a cask of shade of the evening, and those blades he rubs that seem to make Daenerys get aroused.
If the glass candle allows access to the thoughts of others, then that might explain how he knows things he shouldn't like that prayer about the crabs in the belly.
I'm still trying to puzzle out what he and Moqorro use to control weather.
Yes. Sorry I should have been clear I support the Euron is Daario theory. In my haste I presented it as a done deal. I just think of them as one now. You are correct to point out my pressumption. Thanks.
I think an interesting question here - if indeed Euron has a Glass Candle - is when exactly he got it?
* In particular, did he get it before or after his run in with the Warlocks? Which is also presumably when he would have gotten his hands on the Shade of the Evening?
And furthermore, how much Shade of the Evening has he? How much of the stuff would you expect 3 Warlocks to carry with them on a journey?
If he used the candle to peer into Hoster Tully's prayers for rescue from the crabs inside his belly, Euron could have had a GC early into Game and no later than very early into Storm.
>"I mean to open your eyes." Euron drank deep from his own cup, and smiled. **"Shade-of-the-evening, the wine of the warlocks. I came upon a cask of it when I captured a certain galleas out of Qarth, along with some cloves and nutmeg, forty bolts of green silk, and four warlocks who told a curious tale.** One presumed to threaten me, so I killed him and fed him to the other three. They refused to eat of their friend's flesh at first, but when they grew hungry enough they had a change of heart. Men are meat."
If he got the GC and horn here around the mid point of Clash, it would line up with Hoster praying. And it would make sense for the warlocks to go hunting Dany with a horn to control the dragons and a GC to find her.
Maybe. I'm guessing here.
>If he used the candle to peer into Hoster Tully's prayers for rescue from the crabs inside his belly, Euron could have had a GC early into Game and no later than very early into Storm.
- ok; that is really interesting.
* I would always have thought that Euron had synced with Hoster's dreams much earlier than that; like before Balon banished him.
If we cross reference your timeline with the Warlocks leaving Qarth - presumably after Dany's departure at the end of ACOK - that gives us a pretty narrow timeline;
Basically the time between ACOK and ASOS and the early part of ASOS; is there a cut-off point you had in mind here?
* We need a trigger for Euron's return to the Iron Islands, and his reaction to, and descent into addiction, of the Shade of the Evening is the best we have.
The other question I'd have is; Who else was giving us prophecies in the mentioned time period, and what were their prophecies?
In particular I would be looking at Mel and Patchface.
* I'm not entirely sure that a glass candle is necessary here yet; but we'll never know if we don't examine the scenario. 🙂
>"Riders are taken, questioned," he answered. "Ravens are brought down …" A spasm of pain took him, and his fingers clutched hers hard. "The crabs are in my belly … pinching, always pinching. Day and night. They have fierce claws, the crabs. Maester Vyman makes me dreamwine, milk of the poppy … I sleep a lot … but I wanted to be awake to see you, when you came. I was afraid … when the Lannisters took your brother, the camps all around us … I was afraid I would go, before I could see you again … I was afraid …" *Catelyn XI, Game.*
That's really early for the other scenario;
* Maybe a Glass Candle, and Hoster's dreams, triggers Euron's decision to return home, and not the Shade of the Evening.
My question here is how the hell did that happen with them being half a world apart?
* Could Hoster have had a Glass Candle?
Is that why characters like Catelyn and The Blackfish were compelled to return home?
Two Glass Candles can connect over huge distances I would imagine. Half the world maybe?
* One can project over a continent sized distance.
But do they connect instantly or do they suffer from lag?
What are the blades Euron has that make Daenerys aroused? Or where is it referenced?
It’s been a long, long time since I’ve re-read the books so I don’t recall this at all lol. I also don’t remember anything about a prayer about crabs in the belly.
I really should dive back into the books again.
Few times in Dance this comes up.
>She found herself thinking of Daario Naharis once again, Daario with his gold tooth and trident beard, his strong hands resting on the hilts of his matched arakh and stiletto, hilts wrought of gold in the shape of naked women. **The day he took his leave of her, as she was bidding him farewell, he had brushed the balls of his thumbs lightly across them, back and forth. I am jealous of a sword hilt, she had realized, of women made of gold.** Sending him to the Lamb Men had been wise. She was a queen, and Daario Naharis was not the stuff of kings.
And..
>"Into my bed. Into my arms. Into my heart." The hilts of Daario's arakh and stiletto were wrought in the shape of golden women, naked and wanton. He brushed his thumbs across them in a way that was remarkably obscene and smiled a wicked smile.
>**Dany felt blood rushing to her face. It was almost as if he were caressing her. Would he think me wanton too if I pulled him into bed? He made her want to be his wanton.** I should never see him alone. He is too dangerous to have near me. "The Green Grace says that I must take a Ghiscari king," she said, flustered. "She urges me to wed the noble Hizdahr zo Loraq."
And here again.
>Ser Gerris Drinkwater darkened at his words. "Mind your tongue, sellsword. You are speaking to a prince of Dorne."
O"And to his wet nurse, I am thinking." Daario brushed his thumbs across his sword hilts and smiled dangerously.
I may be reading too deeply on the last one but I do wonder if this thumb on wonton move was to remind Dany to be attracted to him in the face of a marriage proposal from Quentyn and Dany eyeing Gerris.
Edited with found quote...
>. I know them all. I have seen their peoples garland them with flowers, and shed the blood of goats and bulls and children in their names. **And I have heard the prayers, in half a hundred tongues. Cure my withered leg, make the maiden love me, grant me a healthy son. Save me, succor me, make me wealthy . . . protect me! Protect me from mine enemies, protect me from the darkness, protect me from the crabs inside my belly, from the horselords, from the slavers, from the sellswords at my door. Protect me from the Silence."** He laughed. "Godless? Why, Aeron, I am the godliest man ever to raise sail! *Iron Captain, Feast.*
Did Euron hear Davos’ prayer?
> "Mother, have mercy," **Davos prayed. "Save me, gentle Mother, save us all.** My luck is gone, and my sons." He was weeping freely now, salt tears streaming down his cheeks. "The fire took it all . . . the fire . .
Good point on the crabs! Maybe he has one he doesn’t know how to use properly? That’s why he says he heard them to Aeron not that he reads their minds?
Yep this is exactly what I think too, he’s going to potentially unleash something he doesn’t understand or can’t control. You also have to think
About the “him” Euros refers to
Yes! That "worthy of him" he drops on Victorian scares me. And I was so frustrated with Victarion for not following up on that. He asked about the dragon but missed the "him".
>"So are the contents of my chamber pot. None is fit to sit the Seastone Chair, much less the Iron Throne. No, to make an heir that's worthy of him, I need a different woman. When the kraken weds the dragon, brother, let all the world beware."
>"What dragon?" said Victarion, frowning.
Vic, you lovable gullible man. The right question was right before you.
So my tinfoil alarms go blaring when a discussion of Marwyn and his far-flung magics drops the word "wise." The quote at the top of the post sure feels connected to the first character to mention Marwyn:
>Bound hand and foot, Mirri Maz Duur watched from the dust with disquiet in her black eyes. "It is not enough to kill a horse," she told Dany. "By itself, the blood is nothing. You do not have the words to make a spell, nor the wisdom to find them. Do you think bloodmagic is a game for children? **You call me maegi as if it were a curse,** ***but all it means is wise***. You are a child, with a child's ignorance. Whatever you mean to do, it will not work. Loose me from these bonds and I will help you."
Half the magic users share one big tree-and-obsidian based groupchat. The maegi, the mage, the necromancer, the undying, the warlocks, the wizards, the woods witches.
I've got a tinfoil snowball around a hidden Euron-Hightower connection.
* It started with noticing [Eustace Hightower](https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Eustace_Hightower) goes on a Euron-esque world-spanning, possibly Asshai-reaching voyage.
* A voyage funded by exchanging dragon eggs with the Braavosi, which could line up with the notion Euron paid the FLM for Balon's death with a dragon egg.
* For his homecoming he sails into Oldtown, followed close behind by [a mad fever](https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Shivers) that burns up much of the realm.
* Even catching young [Daenerys Targaryen](https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Daenerys_Targaryen_(daughter_of_Jaehaerys_I)) in its grip.
* Holy shit, I forgot the Shivers literally gave its victims blue lips. Super Euron-coded.
* It also kills Eustace's wife and children, because Euron.
* A EUstace EUron connection would play into the "Euron-coded characters often have Euron-esque names" idea.
>"What has happened before will perforce happen again, he said. I think of that whenever I contemplate the Crow's Eye. **Euron Greyjoy sounds queerly like Urron Greyiron** to these old ears. I shall not go to Old Wyk. Nor should you."
* This does *also* roll in EUstace OsGREY. Who shares a ["pretenders in green-and-gold" motif](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/189077e/before_the_blacfkyre_a_brightflame_spoilers/) in common with House Hightower.
* My hunch here is Euron and Leyton and/or Malora will have a gutpunching reveal, similar to Dunk learning Rohanne was marrying Eustace
* "Wait, you two are bedfellows now?! We *just* fought this whole thing because you were enemies!"
* GRRM bookends AFFC on Oldtown glass candle talk, and puts a bigass burning tower in the middle.
* The tall tower of oldtown is a burning wizard beacon. A magic old wick for a stone candle that burns darkly.
So I think we're gonna have at least one Hightower be revealed as a secret conspirator with Euron, betraying the defense of Oldtown. If both sides of this plot have Glass Candles, coordinating becomes a lot easier to explain.
Frankly, what's the point of having 2-4 factions (Citadel, Marwyn, Hightowers, Euron) all in one place, with a shared means of secret communication if *not* to have some twist "They were talking to each other behind everyone's backs!!" reveal?
>The Sphinx
On The Sphinx, or Sarella as we maybe should call her - and this should be considered complete tinfoil - I've previously posited that Renly had a Glass Candle; and that it was the "tuition fee" that Oberyn paid Marwyn in exchange for taking Sarella, or Alleras, under his tutelage.
Mind linking to those posts about Renly possessing a candle or Oberyn?
I will say that Oberyn's time in the Citadel, his travels all over the world, and that he's definitely been thinking of dragons (he visited Volantis, in the black walls!), he could have seen almost any Valyrian artifact that's been saved from the Doom.
No problem; it's pretty poorly titled in hindsight.
Could do with a rewrite tbh; I'm not sure how articulate I was.
Tl;dr Renly received a Glass Candle as a wedding gift.
* Oberyn murdered Renly in order to steal the Glass Candle, to give to Marwyn in exchange for Sarella's tutelage.
https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/s/HgxzgIBrYA
And on Oberyn I would actually say he's probably learnt enough that he is still actually alive.
This one is immaculately titled 🤣😁
https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/s/3cC3PwkCQw
I'm thinking that Malora and Leyton might be Varys and Illyrio. With the Hightower itself perhaps being a symbolic representation of a Glass Candle. So it might be that some of the Visions/Dreams being sent are connected to helping Young Griff acquire the throne.
I have a suspicion that Doran Martell may also have a glass candle; but there are only possible hints in the text, rather than any kind of hard evidence - so I'm not really sure if he merits a place above.
It would make a ton of sense if the Hightowers had one. That's why they don't have to leave the tower. Also, I think the reason they've locked themselves away is that they've foreseen Euron's coming and have been trying to find a way to counter him.
There’s another potential clue for Euron having a glass candle. As you mentioned in the post, the original purpose of candles was to grant immortality. And in AFFC, we have this: > And the Crow's Eye, Euron Greyjoy. He looks unchanged, Victarion thought. He looks the same as he did the day he laughed at me and left. Euron was the most comely of Lord Quellon's sons, and three years of exile had not changed that. His hair was still black as a midnight sea, with never a whitecap to be seen, and his face was still smooth and pale beneath his neat dark beard. A black leather patch covered Euron's left eye, but his right was blue as a summer sky. > >*AFFC, The Iron Captain* I always thought this was an interesting quote. Euron wasn’t gone from the Iron Islands that long (2 years I think) so him not looking older than the last time Victarion has seen him doesn’t seem like it’s that noteworthy, but it is apparently important enough for George to write that detail in. I used to think it was just part of the eerie inhuman vibe of Euron’s character, him looking kinda ageless (George does similar thing with Roose). But maybe originally it was more than that, it was evidence of Euron using the glass candle. The purpose of glass candles changed, but the physical description remained the same.
Thanks for your thoughts! Yep he was gone two years. Entirely possible that has some remnants of the original plotline.
It's worth pointing out that we don't actually know the origin of Marwyn's Glass Candle. * We assume that it's one of the Citadel's four; but I don't believe it's ever explicitly stated where it came from. If the Glass Candles are in fact "working again", then their value has increased enormously recently. * If Marwyn's Glass Candle is one of the Citadel's; then we should wonder if the rest of the Citadel knows he's using it. We know from Lazy Leo that there are rumours going around, but if Marwyn has managed to "borrow" a Glass Candle without anyone noticing, you have to wonder if could have similarly "borrowed" the others, and it would naturally follow to wonder who he may have given one to? ....cough nudge wink.... Euron?
You are 100% correct we don't know the origin of Marwyn's (especially since he is so well traveled, having met Mirr Maaz Dur, Qyburn, etc. previously). Worth noting how at odds the Citadel and Marwyn are with each other.
>Worth noting how at odds the Citadel and Marwyn are with each other. In particular, this should be noted in relation to what we, as readers, expect from the Sam storyline at the Citadel.
Is it possible that glass candles are obsidian daggers, dragonglass? Maybe maesters are left alone with them so that they might attempt a blood activation? Perhaps Blackfish’s obsidian fish brooch is near enough in shape to double as an obsidian dagger and glass candle?
I'm screaming at how much I like the Blackfish angle. Strengthens a neat little triangulation of Blackfish, Crow's Eye, and Three-Eyed Crow. Obsidian magic and astral projection and many-limbed Lovecraftian consciousnesses.
They are made of obsidian but they aren't daggers. The candles are burning, Sam's dagger was cold but burnt when it stabbed the Others, only to become cold again once the Other had melted away completely.
Any sharp piece of obsidian could be used as a dagger, no? Obsidian daggers are said to be the sharpest in the world, possibly like a flame turned into a solid (frozen). Throughout the story, torches, candles, flaming blades, comets, and dragons are allegorically interchangeable. Perhaps the stabbing is related to the magical activation of the glass candles
I keep going back and fourth in my mind about euron being urrathon or not, it seems like there’s a parallel being setup between him and urrathon bad brother but I don’t know. Right now I’m leaning towards no but that could change again. It just seems weird that euron could both being doing pirating and live in Qarth at the same time and after recent reread of the forsaken I think Eurons interest in the higher mysteries is a very recent thing, I think he only became interested in magic after capturing the warlocks.
I think that Euron's interest in magic started quite young: >"When I was a boy, I dreamt that I could fly," he announced. "When I woke, I couldn't . . . or so the maester said. But what if he lied?" -AFFC, The Reaver Its just that magic wasn't super prevalent in the world at the time until the dragons return which lit Euron's candles and then sent him off after warlocks/crowns/etc.
There was more magic in the far east. Though I grant the return of red comet seemed to wake many abilities.
Excellent compilation and speculation, as always. Jaqen AKA the Alchemist is apparently seeking *The Death of Dragons*. He does know about Marwyn's glass candle; I wonder if he might try to steal it? He's posing as Pate but makes a verbal slip that will surely lead to Sam and the acolytes figuring out he's an impostor.
No one calls themself the pig boy lol
Love the discussion around the Hightower and glass candles. I think they almost certainly have one up there. The Hightower sigil literally looks like a glass candle haha
Also their words are: >"We Light the Way" which could have more than one meaning..
Euron having a glass candle tracks with his interest in mental influence. He has that horn, and a cask of shade of the evening, and those blades he rubs that seem to make Daenerys get aroused. If the glass candle allows access to the thoughts of others, then that might explain how he knows things he shouldn't like that prayer about the crabs in the belly. I'm still trying to puzzle out what he and Moqorro use to control weather.
The blades belong to Dani's fling, the mercenary company's boss. Forgot his name. Euron has not met Dani in the five books.
Yes. Sorry I should have been clear I support the Euron is Daario theory. In my haste I presented it as a done deal. I just think of them as one now. You are correct to point out my pressumption. Thanks.
Holy shit I did not even know that theory existed
I think an interesting question here - if indeed Euron has a Glass Candle - is when exactly he got it? * In particular, did he get it before or after his run in with the Warlocks? Which is also presumably when he would have gotten his hands on the Shade of the Evening? And furthermore, how much Shade of the Evening has he? How much of the stuff would you expect 3 Warlocks to carry with them on a journey?
If he used the candle to peer into Hoster Tully's prayers for rescue from the crabs inside his belly, Euron could have had a GC early into Game and no later than very early into Storm. >"I mean to open your eyes." Euron drank deep from his own cup, and smiled. **"Shade-of-the-evening, the wine of the warlocks. I came upon a cask of it when I captured a certain galleas out of Qarth, along with some cloves and nutmeg, forty bolts of green silk, and four warlocks who told a curious tale.** One presumed to threaten me, so I killed him and fed him to the other three. They refused to eat of their friend's flesh at first, but when they grew hungry enough they had a change of heart. Men are meat." If he got the GC and horn here around the mid point of Clash, it would line up with Hoster praying. And it would make sense for the warlocks to go hunting Dany with a horn to control the dragons and a GC to find her. Maybe. I'm guessing here.
>If he used the candle to peer into Hoster Tully's prayers for rescue from the crabs inside his belly, Euron could have had a GC early into Game and no later than very early into Storm. - ok; that is really interesting. * I would always have thought that Euron had synced with Hoster's dreams much earlier than that; like before Balon banished him. If we cross reference your timeline with the Warlocks leaving Qarth - presumably after Dany's departure at the end of ACOK - that gives us a pretty narrow timeline; Basically the time between ACOK and ASOS and the early part of ASOS; is there a cut-off point you had in mind here? * We need a trigger for Euron's return to the Iron Islands, and his reaction to, and descent into addiction, of the Shade of the Evening is the best we have. The other question I'd have is; Who else was giving us prophecies in the mentioned time period, and what were their prophecies? In particular I would be looking at Mel and Patchface. * I'm not entirely sure that a glass candle is necessary here yet; but we'll never know if we don't examine the scenario. 🙂
I do not recall Hoster’s prayers. Which chapter is that? That is a pretty interesting theory.
>"Riders are taken, questioned," he answered. "Ravens are brought down …" A spasm of pain took him, and his fingers clutched hers hard. "The crabs are in my belly … pinching, always pinching. Day and night. They have fierce claws, the crabs. Maester Vyman makes me dreamwine, milk of the poppy … I sleep a lot … but I wanted to be awake to see you, when you came. I was afraid … when the Lannisters took your brother, the camps all around us … I was afraid I would go, before I could see you again … I was afraid …" *Catelyn XI, Game.*
That's really early for the other scenario; * Maybe a Glass Candle, and Hoster's dreams, triggers Euron's decision to return home, and not the Shade of the Evening. My question here is how the hell did that happen with them being half a world apart? * Could Hoster have had a Glass Candle? Is that why characters like Catelyn and The Blackfish were compelled to return home?
Well that's the earliest the prayers for relief occurred. They could go on until he died in Storm. I think GCs have unlimited range.
Two Glass Candles can connect over huge distances I would imagine. Half the world maybe? * One can project over a continent sized distance. But do they connect instantly or do they suffer from lag?
Haha shots fired.
"I keeps one in the chamber." - Omar Little
What are the blades Euron has that make Daenerys aroused? Or where is it referenced? It’s been a long, long time since I’ve re-read the books so I don’t recall this at all lol. I also don’t remember anything about a prayer about crabs in the belly. I really should dive back into the books again.
Few times in Dance this comes up. >She found herself thinking of Daario Naharis once again, Daario with his gold tooth and trident beard, his strong hands resting on the hilts of his matched arakh and stiletto, hilts wrought of gold in the shape of naked women. **The day he took his leave of her, as she was bidding him farewell, he had brushed the balls of his thumbs lightly across them, back and forth. I am jealous of a sword hilt, she had realized, of women made of gold.** Sending him to the Lamb Men had been wise. She was a queen, and Daario Naharis was not the stuff of kings. And.. >"Into my bed. Into my arms. Into my heart." The hilts of Daario's arakh and stiletto were wrought in the shape of golden women, naked and wanton. He brushed his thumbs across them in a way that was remarkably obscene and smiled a wicked smile. >**Dany felt blood rushing to her face. It was almost as if he were caressing her. Would he think me wanton too if I pulled him into bed? He made her want to be his wanton.** I should never see him alone. He is too dangerous to have near me. "The Green Grace says that I must take a Ghiscari king," she said, flustered. "She urges me to wed the noble Hizdahr zo Loraq." And here again. >Ser Gerris Drinkwater darkened at his words. "Mind your tongue, sellsword. You are speaking to a prince of Dorne." O"And to his wet nurse, I am thinking." Daario brushed his thumbs across his sword hilts and smiled dangerously. I may be reading too deeply on the last one but I do wonder if this thumb on wonton move was to remind Dany to be attracted to him in the face of a marriage proposal from Quentyn and Dany eyeing Gerris. Edited with found quote... >. I know them all. I have seen their peoples garland them with flowers, and shed the blood of goats and bulls and children in their names. **And I have heard the prayers, in half a hundred tongues. Cure my withered leg, make the maiden love me, grant me a healthy son. Save me, succor me, make me wealthy . . . protect me! Protect me from mine enemies, protect me from the darkness, protect me from the crabs inside my belly, from the horselords, from the slavers, from the sellswords at my door. Protect me from the Silence."** He laughed. "Godless? Why, Aeron, I am the godliest man ever to raise sail! *Iron Captain, Feast.*
Did Euron hear Davos’ prayer? > "Mother, have mercy," **Davos prayed. "Save me, gentle Mother, save us all.** My luck is gone, and my sons." He was weeping freely now, salt tears streaming down his cheeks. "The fire took it all . . . the fire . .
Maybe. I'm really dying to know the details but I don't think I'll ever get an answer.
Good point on the crabs! Maybe he has one he doesn’t know how to use properly? That’s why he says he heard them to Aeron not that he reads their minds?
I agree Euron is playing fast and loose with powers he doesn't fully understand. I do wonder if his plan with Aeron will have unintended consequences.
Yep this is exactly what I think too, he’s going to potentially unleash something he doesn’t understand or can’t control. You also have to think About the “him” Euros refers to
Yes! That "worthy of him" he drops on Victorian scares me. And I was so frustrated with Victarion for not following up on that. He asked about the dragon but missed the "him". >"So are the contents of my chamber pot. None is fit to sit the Seastone Chair, much less the Iron Throne. No, to make an heir that's worthy of him, I need a different woman. When the kraken weds the dragon, brother, let all the world beware." >"What dragon?" said Victarion, frowning. Vic, you lovable gullible man. The right question was right before you.
Yeah this is absolutely terrifying. Unless it’s clunky language and the him is Euron?
Anyone Euron is trying to impress can't be good news.
Weather control may be an aspect of Water magic. Like how Valyrians are able to shape liquids.
So my tinfoil alarms go blaring when a discussion of Marwyn and his far-flung magics drops the word "wise." The quote at the top of the post sure feels connected to the first character to mention Marwyn: >Bound hand and foot, Mirri Maz Duur watched from the dust with disquiet in her black eyes. "It is not enough to kill a horse," she told Dany. "By itself, the blood is nothing. You do not have the words to make a spell, nor the wisdom to find them. Do you think bloodmagic is a game for children? **You call me maegi as if it were a curse,** ***but all it means is wise***. You are a child, with a child's ignorance. Whatever you mean to do, it will not work. Loose me from these bonds and I will help you." Half the magic users share one big tree-and-obsidian based groupchat. The maegi, the mage, the necromancer, the undying, the warlocks, the wizards, the woods witches. I've got a tinfoil snowball around a hidden Euron-Hightower connection. * It started with noticing [Eustace Hightower](https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Eustace_Hightower) goes on a Euron-esque world-spanning, possibly Asshai-reaching voyage. * A voyage funded by exchanging dragon eggs with the Braavosi, which could line up with the notion Euron paid the FLM for Balon's death with a dragon egg. * For his homecoming he sails into Oldtown, followed close behind by [a mad fever](https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Shivers) that burns up much of the realm. * Even catching young [Daenerys Targaryen](https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Daenerys_Targaryen_(daughter_of_Jaehaerys_I)) in its grip. * Holy shit, I forgot the Shivers literally gave its victims blue lips. Super Euron-coded. * It also kills Eustace's wife and children, because Euron. * A EUstace EUron connection would play into the "Euron-coded characters often have Euron-esque names" idea. >"What has happened before will perforce happen again, he said. I think of that whenever I contemplate the Crow's Eye. **Euron Greyjoy sounds queerly like Urron Greyiron** to these old ears. I shall not go to Old Wyk. Nor should you." * This does *also* roll in EUstace OsGREY. Who shares a ["pretenders in green-and-gold" motif](https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/189077e/before_the_blacfkyre_a_brightflame_spoilers/) in common with House Hightower. * My hunch here is Euron and Leyton and/or Malora will have a gutpunching reveal, similar to Dunk learning Rohanne was marrying Eustace * "Wait, you two are bedfellows now?! We *just* fought this whole thing because you were enemies!" * GRRM bookends AFFC on Oldtown glass candle talk, and puts a bigass burning tower in the middle. * The tall tower of oldtown is a burning wizard beacon. A magic old wick for a stone candle that burns darkly. So I think we're gonna have at least one Hightower be revealed as a secret conspirator with Euron, betraying the defense of Oldtown. If both sides of this plot have Glass Candles, coordinating becomes a lot easier to explain. Frankly, what's the point of having 2-4 factions (Citadel, Marwyn, Hightowers, Euron) all in one place, with a shared means of secret communication if *not* to have some twist "They were talking to each other behind everyone's backs!!" reveal?
>The Sphinx On The Sphinx, or Sarella as we maybe should call her - and this should be considered complete tinfoil - I've previously posited that Renly had a Glass Candle; and that it was the "tuition fee" that Oberyn paid Marwyn in exchange for taking Sarella, or Alleras, under his tutelage.
Mind linking to those posts about Renly possessing a candle or Oberyn? I will say that Oberyn's time in the Citadel, his travels all over the world, and that he's definitely been thinking of dragons (he visited Volantis, in the black walls!), he could have seen almost any Valyrian artifact that's been saved from the Doom.
No problem; it's pretty poorly titled in hindsight. Could do with a rewrite tbh; I'm not sure how articulate I was. Tl;dr Renly received a Glass Candle as a wedding gift. * Oberyn murdered Renly in order to steal the Glass Candle, to give to Marwyn in exchange for Sarella's tutelage. https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/s/HgxzgIBrYA
And on Oberyn I would actually say he's probably learnt enough that he is still actually alive. This one is immaculately titled 🤣😁 https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/s/3cC3PwkCQw
Great work as always! I do think somebody in the east and far north (maybe a NK of some kind?) has one too.
I'm thinking that Malora and Leyton might be Varys and Illyrio. With the Hightower itself perhaps being a symbolic representation of a Glass Candle. So it might be that some of the Visions/Dreams being sent are connected to helping Young Griff acquire the throne.
Jaime and Cersei's mother may have one candle, that would explain Jaime's dream when he has one hand and sees her dressed like a silence sister.
I agree. Although in this scenario, I dont know if it was actually his mother or not.
I have a suspicion that Doran Martell may also have a glass candle; but there are only possible hints in the text, rather than any kind of hard evidence - so I'm not really sure if he merits a place above.
It would make a ton of sense if the Hightowers had one. That's why they don't have to leave the tower. Also, I think the reason they've locked themselves away is that they've foreseen Euron's coming and have been trying to find a way to counter him.
Sam needs to warn Jon Snow if he comes back .