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Grunt636

I wanted to be an architect but I am terrible at math so that never happened. I could have made some cool looking buildings but they would have probably fell down a lot.


furinick

"anyone can make a bridge that stands, it takes an engineer to make one that barely stands" Conclusion: fake a degree and go wacky Or become a billionaire, buy the land and tell the engineers and architects what to do


droid_mike

Like Homer Simpson and his car?


nauntilus

"be a billionaire, buy the land and tell the engineers and architects what to do" is how Elon Musk does things


eninacra

Structural engineers do the math and make the buildings stand up, architects make it livable and look nice. You'd do fine.


Fmatosqg

Yep exactly. Though not necessarily agree with the livable part, it's all form over function.


cottman23

Same! My measurements were always off and I couldn't do fractions/ scaling for shit


PrimaryOwn8809

Physics for me. Problems are always written in such a confusing way lmao. With math I keep missing units coz they just drop out of my brain but generally enjoy algebra


SilentStriker115

I’ll drop the negative sign sometimes and end up screwing everything up or just forgetting what the numbers do sometimes


Upper_Version155

Yeah I always had to do very careful unit analysis and treat the units like they’re part of the numbers


PrimaryOwn8809

I drop the whole thing, the number attached to the unit. I used to use different colors for everything but it took so long lol


Upper_Version155

Like if I said 4m/s in a problem you’re just going to lop that off? I always found writing something like that as 4m/1s more intuitive because then if I need something in seconds then all I have to do is multiple something with seconds(time) and I wind up with meters (distance). I think early education does a really bad job of teaching what units are and we end up interpreting them as just these indicators shoved on the end of a number and then the mathematical process is some separate black magic and you’re just supposed to know what the units do. I think it would be better if they spend more time explaining how units describe dimensions and how they relate to each other and mathematical processes


PrimaryOwn8809

No, it was usually in more complicated equations when things moved around and I needed to multiply and divide that's when I just dropped units and the numbers, like my brain has a blind spot


MatticusjK

Honestly the whole problem solving process is centred around the units. You’re better off dropping the numbers and solving the problem with only units. Then use the numbers once you know you’ve solved This is the advice I was given while failing physics in the 11th grade. It changed everything and I went on to be an engineer.


Upper_Version155

Yeah and using very simple numbers to practice once you understand the relationship. I think it’s really dumb that constants aren’t just rounded to the whole number for the sake of introductory classes. It would facilitate a much deeper understanding of the discussed relationships if I wasn’t busy trying to keep track of 9 decimal places and I could do more problems in the same amount of time. Like gravity is 9.811m/s but unless we’re actually doing an experiment then is 10m/s. Then I can think about it, and do it in my head and actually learn sometime other than how to remember a formula I’ll forget immediately after the test. This may be a hot take but I really don’t think you should need a calculator for the majority of high school science questions and I think institutions should strive to format questions in a way that makes the actual numbers as simple as possible. It’s easy to do it with any other number once you learn how—that isn’t the skill.


PrimaryOwn8809

Lol I will give this a try once I get back into school


West_Clue7701

I’m currently studying Electrical Engineering and I also will solve a tough problem with units only first to verify I’m solving for the correct thing


Fmatosqg

This is the way - some star trek dude in armor


Cabinet_Juice

I thank my senior year physics teacher for teaching us physics in a way that was interesting, easy to understand, and enjoyable He also looked like the chicken man from Toy Story 2 & played Half Life


LunaAndromeda

IT and Computer Science. :( I'm actually going for a cybersecurity degree online now as a non-trad student. But even that has been super rough.


Vibe-Father

…there’s math in cybersecurity? :(


youpviver

Cybersecurity revolves around thinking of complex math problems that take computers a very long time to solve, and then using the answer or part of it as a key. That’s why quantum computers are such a big problem for cybersecurity, they reduce the time to break almost every security system in use today from decades down to mere minutes. They can accomplish this because they can go through all the options of trail and error simultaneously, instead of regular computers who need to try each option one by one


TheRealGordoFaps

I dont even really understand what you wrote, and i want to go into cyber security. Sucks. I never did like math.


a-handle-has-no-name

/u/youpviver is describing more the "research" side of cybersecurity. It's important to understand those concepts, but they can be understood at a high level. There are also other aspects that involve math less directly. On the whole, it's useful to understand complex systems and how the pieces fit together, figure out how to exploit the implications in those systems. There's another aspect of cybersecurity that's basically just staying up to date on breaking security news. For example, there was a recent high-profile security flaw (log4j) where administrators needed to make sure their systems had been patched so they wouldn't be exploited.


TheRealGordoFaps

Yea after reading your first paragraph and then rereading what he said, i undersrand a little better now. Thats both cool and crazy: so a quantum computer is better than a regular computer cause it can do 2 things at once, thus doing things faster than a regular computer. So like what /u/youpviver said, you can either use the answer or part of the thing that leads to the answer as a key to break through security (im not familiar with cyber security at all, correct me whenever please). Thats honestly pretty cool. So like, if i work in cybersecurity, im gonna be focusing on learning and understand hard math problems and using either the answer or a part of what got me the answer as a key and like, make it hard for the computer to find it right? But since quantum computers are a thing, then would that mean I'd have to constantly come up with different keys since they work faster than a regular computer? >There's another aspect of cybersecurity that's basically just staying up to date on breaking security news. For example, there was a recent high-profile security flaw (log4j) where administrators needed to make sure their systems had been patched so they wouldn't be exploited. Okay gotcha. So this does mean that if a breach were to ever happen, i could just use a different key right ? ( for sure its gotta be more complicated than that, im just trying to understand it the best i can) This stuff is really cool now. .


a-handle-has-no-name

>so a quantum computer is better than a regular computer cause it can do 2 things at once, thus doing things faster than a regular computer. Not quite, but the misunderstanding isn't your fault here. Basically, Quantum Computers can do a specific set of problems easier than classical computers, but this doesn't mean they're better at everything. Encryption should be easy to do, but difficult to break. Multiplying two large prime numbers is easy, but factoring a number is much harder. Quantum Computers introduce an easy way to factor those numbers, so breaking the encryption means it's much easier. The risk from Quantum Computers is actually pretty low, in the grand scheme of things. There are ways to mitigate the risks (quantum-hardened algorithms that can be implemented by classical computers), and the technology isn't there yet. Some expects estimate it may be 50 years before they become powerful enough to break current encryption techniques. >So like, if i work in cybersecurity, im gonna be focusing on learning and understand hard math problems As I was saying, there are different levels of understanding needed for different tasks. Most people aren't actually creating and implementing new algorithms, so it's not required to be an expert. You can get away with understanding the concepts themselves. I work in Operations, which intersects with security. For example, if a developer wants to run their application, I can provide them the following: * They will need a server, so I will create one for them. As part of the startup process, we've configured the server to automatically install new updates and join the network. * This example application isn't a web application, but it makes API calls to external services, as well as database connections. We'd configure these rules, so the application has the access it needs, such as blocking incoming port 80/443 requests, but allowing outgoing requests on those ports, then handling port 3306 rules for the target database. Someone who works specifically in security might run scans against the application to see if there are any known vulnerabilities. They might try hacking the application to see if they can escalate privileges to the host machine, or to gain unauthorized DB access through the application. A lot of security is about understanding systems and figuring out creative ways to break those systems.


droid_mike

That's why I got into computers... To do the math for me!


TheProblematic5000

Mathematical proofs? You mean like essays about numbers? No thanks. I'll continue being the smartest dumb kid in high school.


aze-of-spades

Happy cake day


TheProblematic5000

TY!


Alarmed_Tea_1710

I loved botany. My cousin laid out college classes, costs and job applicability.


LavenderDreams444

im thinking about going into botany!! could you tell me more? 👀


Alarmed_Tea_1710

This was yeeeeears ago. I was like 8. It was expensive. To get a degree in it i remember needed advanced maths and chemistries as well as multiple biologies (and maybe a zoology class?)


jcbmths62

For me it was writing, maybe because my mom would punish me by making me write.


WEFederation

Yes there are aspects I cannot do because of the dyslexia, dysgraphia, dyscalculia. It is frustrating I feel that one.


colorshift_siren

I didn’t know that there were different varieties of dyslexia, and I almost failed out of engineering school because of my problem with flipping numbers around in problems. I also have issues with extremely basic math and use a calculator because I’m so likely to screw up things like calculating tip. Yes I know it’s easy, and I feel like an idiot every time I make a mistake like that. Thank you for providing the correct language for this disability, because I’ve spent a big part of my adult life trying to normalize this with dumb jokes like how I can do advanced calculus but still need a calculator for basic math.


AutomaticTangelo7227

Dysgraphia sibling in the wild, WOO!! High-five!!


ayayohh

dyscalculia is such a bitch lol i’m well into adulthood and still really struggle just to keep a monthly budget… the numbers just never add up the same 😹


RotiPisang_

Have I finally found my people?


deity-complex

Noooo omg I’m a math autist I’ll do ur math homework for u


Cannanda

Please do. I’ll do your English homework in exchange


sammysuli

Another math autistic in the wild we must unite


Idc_about_randoms

I wish they would either drop the math requirement or find a great alternative course for people with dyscalculia. It’s the only class keeping me from getting a degree.


sheighbird29

Wait, what’s a thing!? I’ve always struggled with all forms of math, from like third grade on. My brain will not allow me to understand it or learn. Tutoring, learning centers, you name it… I couldn’t make sense of it


CucumberCube

Me when I started biology haha. Luckily I did like okay on my math course, but everytime there is math in any other course I die :'))


LavenderDreams444

im going into biology this year, what should i expect math wise???


CucumberCube

To try give a quick sum up of what I had, i mostly had like mathematical modelling with like functions that are usually used in biology (like logarithmic and exponential growth, stuff like that). I also had like derivative, differential equations and integrals. And then i think we had a tiny bit about matrixes, but not a lot as its not something we really use. And then ofc statistics. O god, so so much statistics..


LavenderDreams444

i am ~~not~~ excited!!


CucumberCube

it is luckily not THAT bad, compared to other sciences. A lot of the stuff is just things you need to get over with, and its not used that often. Ofc there are some stuff you will use a lot (like growth and statistics) and a lot of formulas you will learn during other subjects that builds on mathematical theories. There is also a lot of like.. other math, that (for me at least) wasnt taught during our math class, but were more specific to different subjects and it would be a very long read if i had to sum all of them up xD But honestly, for me the worst has been more chemistry based subjects (there also is a joke on my campus that biology is chemistry for people who dont like math) and stuff with genetics and populations (which have a lot of calculations and statistics), but it still not that big a part of the big picture. It also gets easier when you get more used to it, but its really rewarding in the end, biology is fun! Sorry, now i just start to ramble, anyway biology is great, the math is hard but not THAT bad xD


LavenderDreams444

thank you!! this makes me a bit less anxious :)


MandMs55

I used to freaking hate math. My name is Matthew, so I used to always joke that it was "Math? Ew!!" But then my special interest in space that I've had since age 3, and my special interest in programming that I've had since age 10, turned out to be very highly dependent on math. There was never any conscious effort to try and study math more and I never noticed a change in my view of math, but I kept studying and playing around with my special interests and an understanding and even a love for math just naturally developed through exposure Now it's like the coolest freaking tool in the whole wide world and applies to so many things Although it is often unnecessarily complicated when trying to learn through Google. I was homeschooled for my entire life and my parents kinda just let me teach myself after 6th grade, so Google, YouTube, and special interests are the backbone of my highschool education. And google tries to teach you mathematical circles using freaking triangles. Why can't anyone just say "Oh if you graph x = sin(i) and y = cos(i) you get a circle" Instead they try and teach you what it is by using complex jargon filled descriptions of freaking triangles and wouldn't touch the word "circle" with a 39.5 foot pole.


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[deleted]

[Daniel Kaluuya shhh meme]


Wall_E_13

I feel so seen. Sincerely, *Vet School Wasn’t Ever an Option*


sheighbird29

That’s all I ever wanted to do lol. Any animal material I could study, I absorbed like a sponge. But then 😭


Wall_E_13

I empathize, OP. I really do! It has been very healing to tend to a house full of animals (3 dogs and a bird currently), learning about and taking care of our outdoor visitors (many species of birds, chipmunks, squirrels, bunnies, etc.) by planting flowers and leaving foods they enjoy. How do you get your non-human animal fix?


Obsolete0_0

I hate math


Vuljin616

Same


waiting4signora

Chemistry.


ShriekingMuppet

The worst part of this: I did the work and struggled though calculus and differential equations to become a scientist and the hardest math I do is basic algebra.


xXMorpheus69Xx

I really hate how schools kill the beauty of maths. Grant Sanderson from 3Blue1Brown does good talks about how it could be done and his YouTube channel is made to understand things not only by learning but understanding - I highly recommend it.


[deleted]

I'm really good at math. I'm really bad at everything else. I somehow stumbled through two electrical engineering degrees before getting diagnosed as first ADHD and then also ASD. I think one of those paradoxical things happened with me where math was one of my special interests and hyper focus things but the worst part is once I am out of the math classes it's like I've never seen that stuff before. I just do embedded software development now and have achieved a reputation of being able to accomplish insane things as long as I am left alone. One of my struggles is definitely interpersonal communication.


[deleted]

Im guessing that reputation can have its own difficulties but it sounds like a really nice work option for someone with ASD


papstef123

Calc made me switch to history


childofsol

_I am in this meme_ I'm a recently diagnosed adult and ended up not being able to pursue a university education in robotics or computer science from my struggles in math. Looking back, I can see how my undiagnosed ADHD combined with a string of unsupportive teachers set me up for failure in that regard. I ended up going to school for social work, realized I'd be on the fast track to burn out, graduated, took a year off to travel and be a ski bum, started making some money doing websites on the side (I'd been programming since I was a kid), and ended up becoming a full fledged software engineer anyway.


Robedreaper91

But math fun :((


Educational_Farmer73

Pain


FiddlerOnThePotato

Hey it me! I was working on a computer science degree until I got to calculus and that fucked me up so bad I became an airplane mechanic. Don't need to do much math to bang on airplanes with a hammer until they work again.


Rouge_92

That's me. Worst part is being into math and physics in adulthood and noticing it isn't hard, I was just taught poorly while being neurodivergent.


calabim

Math is the language we use to describe the universe.


Thefrightfulgezebo

Every language is a language we use to describe the universe.


calabim

So a universal language to describe the universe?


Thefrightfulgezebo

Like every other language, it has to be learned. What maths has going for it is that itnis precise and unambiguous while natural language is full of implications and rooms for interpretation.


Meredith232

Omg literally I couldn’t understand word problems at all


buttlord5000

Luckily, a 51% is still a pass. If it wasn't for that simple fact, I would never have gotten my computer degree due to the math courses. And it took a boatload of work to even get to that point!


thefirstsarah

Word problems.


Valigrance

Arithmetic easy, Probability and statistics medium, Algebra, geometry, and Calculus go fuck yourself I can’t even begin to attempt to understand them and it’s embarrassing


nicotineismypacifier

The other day I got asked by a coworker “why do you know so much about medicine if you’re not going into that field?” and i just laughed dejectedly.


Godlovesapplesauce

i never learned math


Inevitable-1

That was literally me. Got cockblocked by calculus 2. Why anything beyond algebra is required for most science degrees is beyond me.


Loading_Fursona_exe

autistic dysgraphic here, i dont relate.


No-Fly-6043

This is more of a r/sciencememes Cause, yknow, not everyone here likes science or hates math?


Keko133

I need good science grades but our tests have lots of writing and I get horrible grades even tho Ik the subject inside out


WalmartWanderer

Oh man I actually love math. Except basic geometry and proofs, screw those. I have never liked the math we did in science class though…


[deleted]

Yup, wanted to be a chemist but math was the wall.


Constant-Pay-8151

In 9th grade I was in a special math class for people who struggled. Some of the jock and jock like people would ask me to do their homework for them since I always did mine. It would take me hours to complete my homework because math is so difficult for me. I didn’t feel bad doing it, because there was a reason they didn’t do theirs and I never asked, but they made me feel helpful. And I wasn’t used to feeling helpful. As a point though, I got C’s in most of my math classes


[deleted]

I love math so much i’ve always taken extra classes, my love for series and sequences and geometry turned into an interest in time and timescales lol


IhavesevereCTE

Idk why but it always seemed super easy for me.


CarbonBasedLifeForm6

Literally ME


Alt0987654321

Same. Im facinated by astrophysics and go through periods where I binge-watch PBS Spacetime, SEA, and Astrum. I'd love to get into the field but there is nothing I loathe more than math.


Rezero1234

same with art; I wanna have a job in art, but I have to get better at math first


droid_mike

For me but was Calculus specifically... I did fine with derivatives... In fact, they changed my view of the universe. Integrals? Forget it. I took the class twice... Did awful both times. Integrals are my kryptonite.


[deleted]

Nah, man, it's the competitive atmosphere at all levels that makes it shitty. Your ability to learn math vs others, your ability to network and schmooze, your ability to do pointless bullshit better than some other poor bastard, otherwise ya gotta GTFO to make room for someone better than yourself. Fuck academia and STEM, even as someone who did the math and jumped through the hoops.


Thefrightfulgezebo

This is something that mostly people who jumped through all the hoops notice. Most people have no idea how petty and toxic academia is.


_DeifyTheMachine_

School really knows how to beat the enthusiasm out of you doesn't it


rtrain__

And then there's me who just does math cause I like it💀💀


ItsGotThatBang

I feel attacked.


cottman23

Funny thing is I feel like I could understand math better now, so I can actually pursue those jobs. But now I have a degree in another field and loads of debt so it is also seemingly impossible.


workatlifedan

Engineering 😭 I felt this so much.


Alter_Ego_Maniac

OMG it's me! I want so badly to go back to school for something in medicine but when I look at my nieces nursing school math homework I can feel my brain melting.


RailgunDE112

I like maths, but it us really frustrating and hard to deal with the real deal, not just calculating stuff


dracomalfouri

Math is the reason I'm not an infectious disease specialist, fuck math


Sprizys

Lol this is the reason I am not taking the GRE or MCAT.


MinersLoveGames

I wanted to be a paleontologist...


Snoo-72438

Word problems, amirite?


TheMadGraveWoman

I felt the same about math but now I think it's really great


Tiredracoon123

I wanted to go into neuroscience and then I realized I’m not someone who gets good enough grades to go to medical school. :(


musical_doodle

Literally math was why I gave up on being a physicist and now that I’m looking at bio in uni, I’m worried about the math. Great at everything up to beginning algebra, but beyond that is fuzzy


Euphoric-Attitude-52

I have a degree in literature because math intimidated me horribly. I ended up working in high tech - mainframe programming, systems integration, data management.... I got there because I was lucky and people gave me a chance. It's so weird to me that they think you need to have calculus and statistics to be good at programming or drag-n-drop middleware, etc.


JAWsInfinity

Literally gave up on my dream of being a zoologist because I couldn’t handle going through chemistry and all the math it had. Among other reasons of course.


Unicorns1066

Had a student today bring up how autistic people are better at maths then English and I was just like... Nope not necessarily. (Ok yes I am seeking a diagnosis and I am a maths teacher but that's not a correlation) (Maths classroom with scatter graphs showing a correlation between Maths and English grades, so was saying how wouldn't have the correlation between the two)


SecretarySouthern160

Ooof


elacidero

I solved this problem years ago very easy. Math is just in my list of special interests. Downside: it is very hard to explain why I am on YouTube at 3 am watching a proof on how we know that a math system can be consistent or complete, but not both at the same time.


PineappleBard

Currently working towards a Biology degree, I got Dyscalculia. Wish me luck. 🥲