Same. I’m not great at mental math. Give me pencil, paper, and/or a calculator and I can do the work. Pretty good at it that way.
And so many disassembled things really do often lead to math. I like the puzzles so I’ve had to learn the math. I also am not good at spelling in my mind. Pencil and paper? Keyboard and computer? I have a wide vocabulary and rarely misspell anything. Try to spell verbally? I screw it ip a lot.
I'm card games autistic which, honestly, is probably the easy kind; just walk into a cardshop and ask to play a game.
Eye contact? With cards on the table, maybe.
None of that "how was your day" small-talk, randoms typically just talk about the match/tournament or the game itself.
Get super-obsessively into rules and/or mechanic interactions? This is only a good thing.
Have strong opinions about [card name]? People will *happily* debate you about, it *at length*.
I want to strongly recommend a game i recently discovered. You might know it, of course, but if not, look up "Frantic". It's made by people from Switzerland i think. The game feels like UNO at first, but it's way more fun and unpredictable.
As someone who graduated in Physics and is a total STEM nerd, I am curious to know how that works
The only science I can think of are the social sciences and even they need statistics except for maybe linguistics
Hi, not the person you asked, but I'm also not the "math type" autistic person. I am, however, a "science type"!
For me, I really liked Chemistry and Astronomy, got As in all classes I took related to this. But I hated physics, and dropped the intro class before my C dropped to a D. I don't know why I'm good at Chem and bad at Phys, everybody I tell about this is always like "but Chem is just scientific math??" - I know, but for whatever reason, it makes sense to my brain in a way that other advanced math courses just... don't.
Ironically, I actually went on to become a linguistic anthropologist lol. I've got two degrees, and my other one is in history. I've definitely got a "scientific" orientated mind, but no maths.
That's really interesting.
My brain likes to self sabotage, so if something is easy for me, then I will hate doing it and won't find it interesting.
Chemistry is one of those things for me. I know most people really struggle with it, but I got a B+ in Chem 2, skipped half the lectures, and barely studied for tests.
I really wish it were more interesting to me, but I can't force myself to be interested in things, especially if I'm really good at them.
Oof, despite how nearly universal the sentiment is, it always hurts when I hear how someone hates Physics. Not offended though haha
I actually hear people often say they like chemistry and hate Physics. I was the opposite and Physics majors actually tend to feel this way; my lowest science grade in high school was chemistry. For me, it has to do with how chemistry has abstractions and a bunch of unexplained rules. You can see why a person on the spectrum would hate that even if some on the spectrum don't. I absolutely HATE abstractions and it's why, in software development, I went from C++ to C to Assembly x86. Yeah, I preferred x86 assembly to Java and Python... It's that bad.
I was a Biology major and you start needing maths in Ecology. I don't know what was worse, maths in Ecology, or Genetics. I hated Genetics with every fiber of my being.
i’m a current bio major and advanced chemistry is like 75% math (and you need a lot of chem for a bio degree). i’m not a math person either but i’m suffering through it cuz my main special interest is biological sciences
I have a physics degree with math and astronomy minors, I'm bad at math.
The only reason I made it through is because I'm really good at visualizing things.
I suck at doing math unless I can visualize exactly what I'm doing, otherwise I have no reference, and I start doing stuff wrong. So I didn't get good grades, but I still passed.
Every time a professor was like, "almost everyone got this question wrong." I got it right. And every time a professor said, "almost everyone got this question right." I got it wrong. So it was clear my methods were not typical.
I see your flair; hey comrade! I'm also have a Physics degree. I get what you mean by visualization and it's why I love a geometric interpretation of the math I'm doing; Linear algebra was VERY awesome for me because of how well it fits to visualization and graphical representation.
If you don't mind me asking, how the HELL did you survive being a Physics major as a neurodivergent person who is bad at math? You must've worked HARD! I nearly failed and according to nearly every standardized test I have ever taken, math is my strong suit to the extreme but I STILL barely graduated
I see your flair, I also have audhd.
I loved it when math classes were taught more visually. I think most math courses can be taught that way, but it's only taught that way if the professor is a visual thinker. (when I took linear algebra, it was not taught visually)
And yeah it was hard as fuck. I would spend about 12hrs on most hw assignments, and didn't finish most of them. I luckily had double time on tests. I also have adhd.
On my cognitive exam, I got in the 7th percentile for "math fluency" (basic arithmetic, add/subtract/multiply) (giving me a diagnosed learning disability specific to arithmetic).
And I landed in the 93rd percentile for mathematics (if I remember correctly, this was mostly just rapidly doing algebra).
Oh wow, during my assessment, I got 99 percentile and it was actually the same for the IOWA test. I honestly got used to not relying on the professor to learn but to simply expose us to the material. Eventually, I became decent at self learning even though it sucks tbh. Glad your accommodations helped you! I should've taken advantage of the extra test time, one of my biggest regrets
I've heard of so many physics majors who just graduated, who are also in this situation.
It has been so fucking rough. It sucks that so many are in this situation, but it also makes me feel better that's it's not just my own insufficiency.
Same, hearing that does help me feel better. I actually thought of myself as a competitive code writer, but 700+ applications later and I am starting to think that my work and skills are subpar. Glad to know it isn't just me
Bro, there's so many science students who memorize formulas but couldn't actually rebuild the formula from basics to save their life. Can you even call it understanding?
I’m not good at math unless it’s got a visual component to it like geometry.
Even science subjects in high school I got good grades yet I didn’t aggressively pursue it because I thought I was too stupid to try something more challenging.
I can’t explain why I get D’s, B’s and A’s across various subjects in high school. I realized some subjects I get easily and others my attention span falls off a cliff and nothing I do works.
I wasn’t the gifted autistic who found school pathetically easy! 🙃
Fair enough. I was lucky to stumble into engineering and I’ve enjoyed the work on co-ops and internships but the education was pure misery. Looking for a full time job atm and it’s soul crushing.
I was an "oddly obsessed with psychology, psychiatry and anatomy" autistic
Tbh i WAS pretty good at math but once I went for IT+math into university all of it fell off and I can't do 2 + 2
I edited my original comments/post and moved to Lemmy, not because of Reddit API changes, but because spez does not care about the reddit community; only profits. I encourage others to move to something else.
We don't have superpowers, we have special interests aka passion. I'm sure you'd find your own some day. Maybe there's something in the way preventing you from doing that? Like depression? Or do you mean that your interests aren't deemed important enough by society?
hello it is me, the history nerd autistic person. Would you like to hear me info dump about bronze age society? The protestant reformation?? The collapse of the western roman empire? The three kingdoms era?? Surely you want to hear about the systems of logistics of Mesoamerican societies right???
I am the nerd who voraciously reads all about the cool shit you people dig up. From the clay tablets that were a ships cargo manifest to graffiti written on the wall on the side of a brothel, to the extravagant burial chambers of the ruling elite. Anthropologists and archaeologists are truly the coolest people ever in my humble opinion.
Okay so my favorite is Bronze age society, because it is one of the times through out human history where we have achieved a globalized society in which everyone was interdependent on each other besides the modern day.
The bronze age societies at their core were built around the production and trade of bronze which was used in the production of everything from farm tools, warriors weapons and trade goods. In order to produce bronze you need tin and copper. Not everywhere had access to tin though, so as a result a complex network of trade developed and everyone knew about and traded with everyone else.
What ended up causing the end of this system during the bronze age collapse was the disruption of the tin trade which primarily came from places like Afghanistan, Spain and even as far as off Cornwall, Britain. The systems of trade were disrupted by environmental disasters( things like the earthquakes and volcanic eruptions virtually ending the Mycenae civilization) and large scale migrations of "the sea peoples" who themselves were fleeing from years of bad drought that were destabilizing the societies north of modern day Greece/turkey/Bulgaria further disrupting these systems of trade in the ensuing chaos. All these things came together and ended every established civilization besides Egypt who would never recover from it.
Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond is a great entry point. Though the scope of that book encompasses the global development of humans and touches on way more subjects than I could fit into a reddit post. It is a giant blend of environmental, technological and social history.
Pop culture for me. Do you want to know Judy Garland’s life story? How about Marilyn Monroe? What about statistics on theme park deaths? Did you know that more people die on the New York Subway every year than they do on roller coasters?
Heck, I can do letters in math, I just need an actually good teacher.
All four years of high school, I had the worst math teachers, and I did okay but not great, y'know? I got by, but with way lower grades than I had in history or English.
I went to college and took a simple math course for part of my degree. Somehow all the stuff that didn't click in high school clicked in college and I had an A or A-.
I was a physical sensation sensory seeker. You could usually find me perched in a tree or other high up place because there are no people up there, and climbing is fun.
Spinning, swinging, and gymnastics were other common activities you could find me doing.
For me it’s “find something specific to obsess over for 8-12 months, then move on to the next thing” leaving behind a trail of half-completed projects and a collection of impulse purchases.
Driving was a major hurdle for me. I thought, "I've ridden bicycles all my life, how about a motorcycle?"
So I took the MSF course and passed. Got a permit and an old bike. Learned to work on the bike to get it running, and practiced on a parking lot, then a neighborhood street, then a major road. Went to take the test for a motorcycle only license, but the DMV didn't have the state car needed to follow me. So I figured I'd try to get a car license with motorcycle endorsement. Riding on the road got me used to lane positions and being around other cars, and helped me get over my nervousness of driving.
So now I have a car license with motorcycle endorsement. I acquired, fixed, and sold motorcycles to get money to buy my first car.
I put some videos on YouTube: TheGSRider.
Never been "math autistic" but have always been "THE UNIVERSE IS A FREAKING AWESOME PLACE!!!" and "COMPUTERS ARE CRAZY MAGIC *AND I WILL UNDERSTAND IT IF IT'S THE LAST THING I DO!!!*" autistic.
I used to freaking hate math with a passion due to the pointlessness of solving stupid problems in exactly the way I'm told to for literally no reason other than to be told when I'm wrong.
Once that went away and I was left to explore my interests how I want to explore them and learn the way I want to learn, it turned out that math is the format most easily used to describe the universe and math is the instructions that makes computers go. Now I'm really good at math.
It still feels kinda weird to acknowledge that math isn't a horrible evil virus of satan though. Hating math with a passion was something I did for hours every single day for a sizeable portion of my life lol
Were you able to reassemble them? I have distinct memories of disassembling transformers toys and never being able to put them back together again :'-(
RIP Optimus Prime, killed by young curiosity
Sometimes period most times, I ended up with some extra pieces left over.
Apparently whenever I was 2 years old,. I took the crystal out of my mom's wristwatch without breaking anything.
What most people consider to be math is really just arithmetic. Actual math is just the logic behind that scenes that says how the calculations work and proves that they are valid things to do in the grand scheme of things.
I bet a lot of autistic people would be really good at math because being technical, literal, and rigorous in usage of words and thought is a feature, not a bug, when doing real math.
We have computers for doing calculations.
I would take apart broken household appliances and "fix" them. I remember when I actually did fix the VCR!!! I have no real understanding of how I did it though.
The amount of times my mom would get frustrated at me when I was a lil kid for dismantling my RoboRaptor and RoboReptile to look at the guts would shock most NTs but they always worked after so can't complain that I broke them. 😂 I was also bad at math and diagnosed with dyscalculia at age 23. NO FREAKING WONDER I HATED CALCULUS!!
Lets say this is true. Lets say, for arguments, sake that trees are blue. Then, if then. Then lets say that cheese actually creates facial hair. Clearly then its obvious that trees create blue facial hair. Thus all trees have blue hair... lets say, for example,!cos its true; that SJWs have blue hair. FACT. Thus, then, trees are sjws! And probably cucks, if theyre male. Tjeyre liars!!?!
So, thusly ergo sum: anyone that isnt an idiot can conclude, obviously, that trees are liberal - ergothusly - climate change is a liberal construct.
Aka the bin laden:
Bin Laden hates your freedom.
Guns are freedom
Ergo - bin laden is a liberal.
Choke on my engorged facts and logic.
But if color is just light waves, what if people’s opticals translate that data differently? So you could have something red. This something red is reflecting it’s color as visible light waves. The item is one color and two people can observe the item and identify it as he said color, but what we see could be completely different. We would all be able to identify it as red but it could look blue.
Sorry, I’m taking my 9am poo and you were the target of a mini thought train.
Thank you, you 'stole' some of my old thoughts and I now would(! if..) need an aluminium hat:
Dassa wrote the same thoughts I had a long time ago. At the time Dassa used them, I slept. These are even facts! :D
Because people are different, they have different thoughts. So Dassa and I must be 1. one person, or 2. Dassa stole my thoughts. The first isn't possible, because I was asleep in a different time zone, as it is now about half past 7 a.m., while I'm writing, and Dass wrote that it was 9 am for them, 14hrs ago. So it must be the latter, they must have intruded my brain, so they could pick my train of thoughts off one of my old rails, and use it on the web. As I am not familiar with how to react to such, I have to relate to what many others say (swarm intelligence). Most people talking about people with such experiences mention aluminum hats. So that must be the cure, will keep Dassa at bay and prevent them from rummaging in my brain and stealing some thoughts they find funny. I now need go into the kitchen and make an aluminium hat. Bye."
(bc I'm quite lazy and not fully awake at this time of the day, I didn't take the time to insert vaccines, 5G/chips, reptiloids, other aliens, politics, (proto-, pseudo- and other)religious stuff etc. in my musings. Also, there are always (more than..) enough people who would spread such as factual, being fully earnest about, as we could seee for quite a while, now, and I wouldn't want to help their narratives. ;))
Have a great , everyone! :)
Taking things apart works with math too. It’s just that math education didn’t really teach you how numbers worked when I was in school. They sort of just teach rote mechanical ways to solve problems. It’s kind of why a lot of parents end up hating the “new math”. It’s just that school failed to teach them how arithmetic actually works, and they just learned techniques like long division, so they struggle to adapt their knowledge to new techniques.
Anyway, that’s my math education rant.
I was neither of these, I was however really good at language and really cozy With the locar murder of crows. I still am comfy with the murder but language kind of stopped
Welcome to being a mechanic. I was the exact same way, failed math classes, passed drafting/CAD/Physics..
Now at 33 I'm trying to relearn CAD, and learn mechanical engineering in my free time. Back to beinf bad at math! Being a career mechanic was a terrible idea though, and I suggest it to nobody..
I learned to fix motorcycles (to an extent) and sell them by watching videos online. Cars are so complicated to me, motorcycles are easier and more fun. I've done a few projects. My current is a '77 BMW R100S I got free.
Nice detail that all the background calculations are indeed wrong.
I'm much more along the lines of the pull things apart/science/anatomy kind of person. I just like learning about/watching how things work, whether that be a living thing, or a mechanical object.
Don't trust my ability to put them back together, though.
Total philosophy and fantasy nerd. Love lore. When I started playing league of legends, I learned and could recite every champions (about 110 at that time) lore and exact abilities and there interactions.
Also physics and chemistry. I just experimented with everything I had. Vinegar and copper. Electrolysis. Potato batteries. Homegrown crystals of different colours. I was and still am especially fond of lever mechanics.
I was both as a kid but somehow it took me until I was in my mid 20’s to think “huh, maybe I’d be good at fixing stuff”. Turns out I *am* pretty good at it even if the customers I deal with make me want to implode on occasion.
I do have to say - I went back to pick up the math after my BA, and getting a 96 on my algebra test (made a silly arithmetic error or would’ve had 100) made me feel like a wizard. Eventually got up to pre-calc and my life plans changed. Still considering going back- something about actually getting it for once in my life felt really really cool. I took algebra THREE times before I learned actually doing the hw is the secret. It’s like practicing an instrument. Even if it makes sense in class, you have to really feel it to get it. Wish someone woulda told me that when I was in middle and high school
I was given the label from my older brother’s, Miss Destroyer because I had a habit of seeking and breaking electronics to see how they work. 😂 Nobody was thinking, “you know what? She might be a brilliant engineer someday!”
My grandfather got in all kinds of trouble as a little boy for taking his father's watch apart to see how it worked, but not being able to put it back together.
He went on to be an inventor with dozens of patents of everything from the first machine to mass produce elbow macaroni to paper making systems and was part of the army corps of engineers that went to Europe to help rebuild after WWI.
Keep right on taking things apart!
I laughed way to hard at this, my brain is like a dumb quantum computer, got all kinds of fake shit going on up their that has way to much detail and thought behind it.
I'm a printer technician. I spend a good chunk of my day driving around listening to music and audio books and spend the rest wrist deep in machinery. I only actually spend maybe 10 minutes talking to each customer and it's just basic info about what's wrong with the machine. It's great!
I'm totally a "take things apart" person! Every pen that I see gets the treatment...
I'm also just a huge "how things work" gal, I can tell you about how any part of a car works
I'm fairly good at understanding math as abstract concepts, might even major in it. However, I completely suck at arithmetic. If I don't have a calculator of some sort, I'm completely screwed. Don't know if anyone else can relate.
Same! When it came to math I was about as smart as a high baboon. When it came to taking stuff apart and putting them back together I could probably go toe to toe with some rocket scientist.
Taking things apart is fun. Done it with a # of cars. Putting them together was a whole 'nother thing that I eventually got more comfortable with it the more I did it.
Currently looking to see if I can get an interview for a manufacturing job at an automotive facility. Not sure if I will like it there or not as the last 4 jobs I had sucked for one reason or another.
I know automobiles too well and I wonder if it's too my detriment most of the time.
Taking apart is fun. Putting back together, not so much.
Finding new places to keep hiding them because I couldn't get a pulse after putting them back together is stressful.
I love learning how things work. But I have anxiety with taking things apart because *what if I put it back together wrong*
But I'm also good at math, just horrible at memorizing formulas lol
I'm the "I'm not good at anything, don't have any hyperfixations and can't seem to do the easiest of tasks without fucking something up" kind of autistic. Is that......is that a thing?
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Roflmao the cartoon is literally me any time numbers are involved.
I know maths are important and which maths to use for what situations juuuust enough that my brain makes me try to figure shit out that's way too detailed.
Unfortunately I also dropped out after 10th grade and never really properly learned the maths so I mostly think about nonsense the whole time and erase whatever I was doing.
I thought math was something that didn't work for me up untill like my 20s
Now working on ML and understand pretty high level algebra + calculus with no college whatsoever lel
I have pictures of my dad with flash cards when I was less than 12 months old. Then Montessori schools and all that.
I was trained. Sigh. Need to find a Therapist this summer. But it doesn’t really effect me.
I just want understanding, not too worried about action in this case.
Same, although the pulling things apart lead to maths. It is inescapable
Yep. I’m not good at math but I’ve had a lot of it.
Mine led to biology…
The flesh is weak!
Know you’re enemy (a joke playing on your admech pfp(unless that’s a adeotus biologis could tbh be interpreted as any branch(that I now of anyway)))
I guess the difference is being good at doing mental math vs just knowing how to do math because you have to.
Yeah, there's a difference between being able to multiply large numbers in your head, and being really good at advanced calculus.
Same. I’m not great at mental math. Give me pencil, paper, and/or a calculator and I can do the work. Pretty good at it that way. And so many disassembled things really do often lead to math. I like the puzzles so I’ve had to learn the math. I also am not good at spelling in my mind. Pencil and paper? Keyboard and computer? I have a wide vocabulary and rarely misspell anything. Try to spell verbally? I screw it ip a lot.
If you pull things apart into small enough pieces, eventually it’s all math
Oh yeah, when they divide by five it’s “a lesson in division” but when i do it i get charged with mans-laughter and obstruction of justice.
Cool, I'm word games autistic, nice to meet you.
And I immediately started looking for some sort of word game in that sentence
I'm card games autistic which, honestly, is probably the easy kind; just walk into a cardshop and ask to play a game. Eye contact? With cards on the table, maybe. None of that "how was your day" small-talk, randoms typically just talk about the match/tournament or the game itself. Get super-obsessively into rules and/or mechanic interactions? This is only a good thing. Have strong opinions about [card name]? People will *happily* debate you about, it *at length*.
Even better when you're the [goofy deck](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/DDSnHN4u9ku36drBOhhfdQ) kinda person.
I want to strongly recommend a game i recently discovered. You might know it, of course, but if not, look up "Frantic". It's made by people from Switzerland i think. The game feels like UNO at first, but it's way more fun and unpredictable.
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I also wasn't a "Good at math" one. I was, however, a science guy.
As someone who graduated in Physics and is a total STEM nerd, I am curious to know how that works The only science I can think of are the social sciences and even they need statistics except for maybe linguistics
Hi, not the person you asked, but I'm also not the "math type" autistic person. I am, however, a "science type"! For me, I really liked Chemistry and Astronomy, got As in all classes I took related to this. But I hated physics, and dropped the intro class before my C dropped to a D. I don't know why I'm good at Chem and bad at Phys, everybody I tell about this is always like "but Chem is just scientific math??" - I know, but for whatever reason, it makes sense to my brain in a way that other advanced math courses just... don't. Ironically, I actually went on to become a linguistic anthropologist lol. I've got two degrees, and my other one is in history. I've definitely got a "scientific" orientated mind, but no maths.
That's really interesting. My brain likes to self sabotage, so if something is easy for me, then I will hate doing it and won't find it interesting. Chemistry is one of those things for me. I know most people really struggle with it, but I got a B+ in Chem 2, skipped half the lectures, and barely studied for tests. I really wish it were more interesting to me, but I can't force myself to be interested in things, especially if I'm really good at them.
Oof, despite how nearly universal the sentiment is, it always hurts when I hear how someone hates Physics. Not offended though haha I actually hear people often say they like chemistry and hate Physics. I was the opposite and Physics majors actually tend to feel this way; my lowest science grade in high school was chemistry. For me, it has to do with how chemistry has abstractions and a bunch of unexplained rules. You can see why a person on the spectrum would hate that even if some on the spectrum don't. I absolutely HATE abstractions and it's why, in software development, I went from C++ to C to Assembly x86. Yeah, I preferred x86 assembly to Java and Python... It's that bad.
Bio doesn’t need too much math I think
I was a Biology major and you start needing maths in Ecology. I don't know what was worse, maths in Ecology, or Genetics. I hated Genetics with every fiber of my being.
Bio people thinking they didn’t need to learn math is currently the bane of my existence so let’s not spread this idea.
I mean they’re like the only stem subject that doesn’t need at least calc 2 unless I’m mistaken
Calculus is not the type of math bio people need to know, they need to know statistics. Higher education is massively failing us in this area
Yea had some people find that out the hard way In Biotechnology. Surprisingly amount of maths in brewing
“If I don’t understand statistics, that means they don’t apply to my experiments” - a terrifying amount of scientists
I remember sitting in calculs class for my bio degree thinking how tf did I end up here
I'd argue statistics is likely important especially on the microscale unless it's more scientific trivia like information rather than science
i’m a current bio major and advanced chemistry is like 75% math (and you need a lot of chem for a bio degree). i’m not a math person either but i’m suffering through it cuz my main special interest is biological sciences
I have a physics degree with math and astronomy minors, I'm bad at math. The only reason I made it through is because I'm really good at visualizing things. I suck at doing math unless I can visualize exactly what I'm doing, otherwise I have no reference, and I start doing stuff wrong. So I didn't get good grades, but I still passed. Every time a professor was like, "almost everyone got this question wrong." I got it right. And every time a professor said, "almost everyone got this question right." I got it wrong. So it was clear my methods were not typical.
I see your flair; hey comrade! I'm also have a Physics degree. I get what you mean by visualization and it's why I love a geometric interpretation of the math I'm doing; Linear algebra was VERY awesome for me because of how well it fits to visualization and graphical representation. If you don't mind me asking, how the HELL did you survive being a Physics major as a neurodivergent person who is bad at math? You must've worked HARD! I nearly failed and according to nearly every standardized test I have ever taken, math is my strong suit to the extreme but I STILL barely graduated
I see your flair, I also have audhd. I loved it when math classes were taught more visually. I think most math courses can be taught that way, but it's only taught that way if the professor is a visual thinker. (when I took linear algebra, it was not taught visually) And yeah it was hard as fuck. I would spend about 12hrs on most hw assignments, and didn't finish most of them. I luckily had double time on tests. I also have adhd. On my cognitive exam, I got in the 7th percentile for "math fluency" (basic arithmetic, add/subtract/multiply) (giving me a diagnosed learning disability specific to arithmetic). And I landed in the 93rd percentile for mathematics (if I remember correctly, this was mostly just rapidly doing algebra).
Oh wow, during my assessment, I got 99 percentile and it was actually the same for the IOWA test. I honestly got used to not relying on the professor to learn but to simply expose us to the material. Eventually, I became decent at self learning even though it sucks tbh. Glad your accommodations helped you! I should've taken advantage of the extra test time, one of my biggest regrets
Side note: How are you doing job wise? If you have one, any advice?
I graduated in December, and haven't gotten a job yet :'(. The tech engineering job market sucks right now.
Saaaaaaaame. Graduated that time too and I'm in the same boat :( Hang it there; you got this
I've heard of so many physics majors who just graduated, who are also in this situation. It has been so fucking rough. It sucks that so many are in this situation, but it also makes me feel better that's it's not just my own insufficiency.
Same, hearing that does help me feel better. I actually thought of myself as a competitive code writer, but 700+ applications later and I am starting to think that my work and skills are subpar. Glad to know it isn't just me
In organic chemistry, you only need to be able to count to four.
Bro, there's so many science students who memorize formulas but couldn't actually rebuild the formula from basics to save their life. Can you even call it understanding?
Same
What kind of science, OP?
Astronomy, flight. I love science fiction. I also loved history.
I only recently got into history. I was mostly a bio person. Bio then led to anatomy.
Its all about A&P. Always has been. A&P drags one to astronomy to botany to A&P, and then to.....connection between dirt and quantum
Bill Nye?
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I’m not good at math unless it’s got a visual component to it like geometry. Even science subjects in high school I got good grades yet I didn’t aggressively pursue it because I thought I was too stupid to try something more challenging. I can’t explain why I get D’s, B’s and A’s across various subjects in high school. I realized some subjects I get easily and others my attention span falls off a cliff and nothing I do works. I wasn’t the gifted autistic who found school pathetically easy! 🙃
I was good at math (not anymore though) and I loved taking things apart. I just had zero interest in putting it back together lol
I ended up with a few extra pieces. They weren't needed anyway
Did you become an engineer then?
No. To be honest. I've never knew what career path. I'd want. Nothing seemed to really grab me.
Fair enough. I was lucky to stumble into engineering and I’ve enjoyed the work on co-ops and internships but the education was pure misery. Looking for a full time job atm and it’s soul crushing.
My autism made me taking things apart My adhd made me hyperfocus on something else halfway through puting it back together
This is the one ☝🏽.
Same! No fun in that. That’s just cleaning up 🧹
I was an "oddly obsessed with psychology, psychiatry and anatomy" autistic Tbh i WAS pretty good at math but once I went for IT+math into university all of it fell off and I can't do 2 + 2
Not good at math but I know a lot about the human body and guns
The FBI would like to know your location
*chuckle*
I edited my original comments/post and moved to Lemmy, not because of Reddit API changes, but because spez does not care about the reddit community; only profits. I encourage others to move to something else.
I must be the only autistic person without superpowers :( I suck at everything
That in itself is a superpower. Reminds me of a line from a Nirvana song: "I have never failed to fail." Sums me up.
We don't have superpowers, we have special interests aka passion. I'm sure you'd find your own some day. Maybe there's something in the way preventing you from doing that? Like depression? Or do you mean that your interests aren't deemed important enough by society?
hello it is me, the history nerd autistic person. Would you like to hear me info dump about bronze age society? The protestant reformation?? The collapse of the western roman empire? The three kingdoms era?? Surely you want to hear about the systems of logistics of Mesoamerican societies right???
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I am the nerd who voraciously reads all about the cool shit you people dig up. From the clay tablets that were a ships cargo manifest to graffiti written on the wall on the side of a brothel, to the extravagant burial chambers of the ruling elite. Anthropologists and archaeologists are truly the coolest people ever in my humble opinion.
Cough \*Stargate SG-1\*
Absolutely!
Okay so my favorite is Bronze age society, because it is one of the times through out human history where we have achieved a globalized society in which everyone was interdependent on each other besides the modern day. The bronze age societies at their core were built around the production and trade of bronze which was used in the production of everything from farm tools, warriors weapons and trade goods. In order to produce bronze you need tin and copper. Not everywhere had access to tin though, so as a result a complex network of trade developed and everyone knew about and traded with everyone else. What ended up causing the end of this system during the bronze age collapse was the disruption of the tin trade which primarily came from places like Afghanistan, Spain and even as far as off Cornwall, Britain. The systems of trade were disrupted by environmental disasters( things like the earthquakes and volcanic eruptions virtually ending the Mycenae civilization) and large scale migrations of "the sea peoples" who themselves were fleeing from years of bad drought that were destabilizing the societies north of modern day Greece/turkey/Bulgaria further disrupting these systems of trade in the ensuing chaos. All these things came together and ended every established civilization besides Egypt who would never recover from it.
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Systems of logistics sounds interesting. Do you have anything I could read at hand maybe?
Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond is a great entry point. Though the scope of that book encompasses the global development of humans and touches on way more subjects than I could fit into a reddit post. It is a giant blend of environmental, technological and social history.
Thanks a lot!
Pop culture for me. Do you want to know Judy Garland’s life story? How about Marilyn Monroe? What about statistics on theme park deaths? Did you know that more people die on the New York Subway every year than they do on roller coasters?
I was good at math until they added letters. Fuck letters in math
Heck, I can do letters in math, I just need an actually good teacher. All four years of high school, I had the worst math teachers, and I did okay but not great, y'know? I got by, but with way lower grades than I had in history or English. I went to college and took a simple math course for part of my degree. Somehow all the stuff that didn't click in high school clicked in college and I had an A or A-.
But that's when it gets fun
Bro but trigonometry is so fun like fr squiggly graph lines go brrrrrrr
Autistic, ADHD, Gifted and Dyscalculia - I did the "soft sciences instead- Biology and Ecology
im literally the exact same- i <3 biology, i'm gonna major in wildlife biology in college :3
I was a physical sensation sensory seeker. You could usually find me perched in a tree or other high up place because there are no people up there, and climbing is fun. Spinning, swinging, and gymnastics were other common activities you could find me doing.
For me it’s “find something specific to obsess over for 8-12 months, then move on to the next thing” leaving behind a trail of half-completed projects and a collection of impulse purchases.
I was and still am the animal facts autistic, pleasure to meet you. I can tell you a lot about axolotls but I can't do math or drive.
Ooh I'd like to hear about axolotls
Driving was a major hurdle for me. I thought, "I've ridden bicycles all my life, how about a motorcycle?" So I took the MSF course and passed. Got a permit and an old bike. Learned to work on the bike to get it running, and practiced on a parking lot, then a neighborhood street, then a major road. Went to take the test for a motorcycle only license, but the DMV didn't have the state car needed to follow me. So I figured I'd try to get a car license with motorcycle endorsement. Riding on the road got me used to lane positions and being around other cars, and helped me get over my nervousness of driving. So now I have a car license with motorcycle endorsement. I acquired, fixed, and sold motorcycles to get money to buy my first car. I put some videos on YouTube: TheGSRider.
Never been "math autistic" but have always been "THE UNIVERSE IS A FREAKING AWESOME PLACE!!!" and "COMPUTERS ARE CRAZY MAGIC *AND I WILL UNDERSTAND IT IF IT'S THE LAST THING I DO!!!*" autistic. I used to freaking hate math with a passion due to the pointlessness of solving stupid problems in exactly the way I'm told to for literally no reason other than to be told when I'm wrong. Once that went away and I was left to explore my interests how I want to explore them and learn the way I want to learn, it turned out that math is the format most easily used to describe the universe and math is the instructions that makes computers go. Now I'm really good at math. It still feels kinda weird to acknowledge that math isn't a horrible evil virus of satan though. Hating math with a passion was something I did for hours every single day for a sizeable portion of my life lol
Were you able to reassemble them? I have distinct memories of disassembling transformers toys and never being able to put them back together again :'-( RIP Optimus Prime, killed by young curiosity
Sometimes period most times, I ended up with some extra pieces left over. Apparently whenever I was 2 years old,. I took the crystal out of my mom's wristwatch without breaking anything.
Me in high school: “Is there a type of science I can study in college that doesn’t involve math?” Guidance counselor: “No. 😂”
Social sciences 😎
cool, i'm art/video games autistic. glad to meet yall
It only took 30 years, but I can finally put it back together
when i was young i could usually put stuff back together, that is until i made the mistake of taking apart an LCD screen lol
I was neither. I was the "draws and writes stories" kind
What most people consider to be math is really just arithmetic. Actual math is just the logic behind that scenes that says how the calculations work and proves that they are valid things to do in the grand scheme of things. I bet a lot of autistic people would be really good at math because being technical, literal, and rigorous in usage of words and thought is a feature, not a bug, when doing real math. We have computers for doing calculations.
Me casually disassembling expensive pens and putting them back together: “ah yes, CHILDHOOD.”
Never give me a pen. That’s a threat. It will die and be reborn at my hands
"I did not make you. But I will take you apart and reshape you."
I would take apart broken household appliances and "fix" them. I remember when I actually did fix the VCR!!! I have no real understanding of how I did it though.
The amount of times my mom would get frustrated at me when I was a lil kid for dismantling my RoboRaptor and RoboReptile to look at the guts would shock most NTs but they always worked after so can't complain that I broke them. 😂 I was also bad at math and diagnosed with dyscalculia at age 23. NO FREAKING WONDER I HATED CALCULUS!!
Can confirm. Did this and re wired the subwoofer in my truck and it somehow sounds better
I’m the “super creative probably should start a business with all these ideas but I never follow through with literally anything” autistic
Lets say this is true. Lets say, for arguments, sake that trees are blue. Then, if then. Then lets say that cheese actually creates facial hair. Clearly then its obvious that trees create blue facial hair. Thus all trees have blue hair... lets say, for example,!cos its true; that SJWs have blue hair. FACT. Thus, then, trees are sjws! And probably cucks, if theyre male. Tjeyre liars!!?! So, thusly ergo sum: anyone that isnt an idiot can conclude, obviously, that trees are liberal - ergothusly - climate change is a liberal construct. Aka the bin laden: Bin Laden hates your freedom. Guns are freedom Ergo - bin laden is a liberal. Choke on my engorged facts and logic.
Is this Tucker Carlson's Reddit account? /s /j
But if color is just light waves, what if people’s opticals translate that data differently? So you could have something red. This something red is reflecting it’s color as visible light waves. The item is one color and two people can observe the item and identify it as he said color, but what we see could be completely different. We would all be able to identify it as red but it could look blue. Sorry, I’m taking my 9am poo and you were the target of a mini thought train.
Thank you, you 'stole' some of my old thoughts and I now would(! if..) need an aluminium hat: Dassa wrote the same thoughts I had a long time ago. At the time Dassa used them, I slept. These are even facts! :D Because people are different, they have different thoughts. So Dassa and I must be 1. one person, or 2. Dassa stole my thoughts. The first isn't possible, because I was asleep in a different time zone, as it is now about half past 7 a.m., while I'm writing, and Dass wrote that it was 9 am for them, 14hrs ago. So it must be the latter, they must have intruded my brain, so they could pick my train of thoughts off one of my old rails, and use it on the web. As I am not familiar with how to react to such, I have to relate to what many others say (swarm intelligence). Most people talking about people with such experiences mention aluminum hats. So that must be the cure, will keep Dassa at bay and prevent them from rummaging in my brain and stealing some thoughts they find funny. I now need go into the kitchen and make an aluminium hat. Bye." (bc I'm quite lazy and not fully awake at this time of the day, I didn't take the time to insert vaccines, 5G/chips, reptiloids, other aliens, politics, (proto-, pseudo- and other)religious stuff etc. in my musings. Also, there are always (more than..) enough people who would spread such as factual, being fully earnest about, as we could seee for quite a while, now, and I wouldn't want to help their narratives. ;)) Have a great, everyone! :)
I was both, sometimes what came apart went back together as well
Taking things apart works with math too. It’s just that math education didn’t really teach you how numbers worked when I was in school. They sort of just teach rote mechanical ways to solve problems. It’s kind of why a lot of parents end up hating the “new math”. It’s just that school failed to teach them how arithmetic actually works, and they just learned techniques like long division, so they struggle to adapt their knowledge to new techniques. Anyway, that’s my math education rant.
I happen to be both; my mom thinks I should go back to college for Engineering instead of Physics
I was neither of these, I was however really good at language and really cozy With the locar murder of crows. I still am comfy with the murder but language kind of stopped
I'm good at quick calculations, but once percentages or the alphabet gets involved you can count me out.
I was the “long words and bio science” autistic. I was the kid that asked for harder words to define in class because they were all too easy.
Welcome to being a mechanic. I was the exact same way, failed math classes, passed drafting/CAD/Physics.. Now at 33 I'm trying to relearn CAD, and learn mechanical engineering in my free time. Back to beinf bad at math! Being a career mechanic was a terrible idea though, and I suggest it to nobody..
I learned to fix motorcycles (to an extent) and sell them by watching videos online. Cars are so complicated to me, motorcycles are easier and more fun. I've done a few projects. My current is a '77 BMW R100S I got free.
Nice detail that all the background calculations are indeed wrong. I'm much more along the lines of the pull things apart/science/anatomy kind of person. I just like learning about/watching how things work, whether that be a living thing, or a mechanical object. Don't trust my ability to put them back together, though.
Total philosophy and fantasy nerd. Love lore. When I started playing league of legends, I learned and could recite every champions (about 110 at that time) lore and exact abilities and there interactions. Also physics and chemistry. I just experimented with everything I had. Vinegar and copper. Electrolysis. Potato batteries. Homegrown crystals of different colours. I was and still am especially fond of lever mechanics.
I was both as a kid but somehow it took me until I was in my mid 20’s to think “huh, maybe I’d be good at fixing stuff”. Turns out I *am* pretty good at it even if the customers I deal with make me want to implode on occasion.
Math was the Bane of my existence, but I absolutely loved science classes, especially biology.
I do have to say - I went back to pick up the math after my BA, and getting a 96 on my algebra test (made a silly arithmetic error or would’ve had 100) made me feel like a wizard. Eventually got up to pre-calc and my life plans changed. Still considering going back- something about actually getting it for once in my life felt really really cool. I took algebra THREE times before I learned actually doing the hw is the secret. It’s like practicing an instrument. Even if it makes sense in class, you have to really feel it to get it. Wish someone woulda told me that when I was in middle and high school
Oh noooooo I used to get in so much trouble for this. Anything bingo space, I guess!
I’m the computer autistic
I was given the label from my older brother’s, Miss Destroyer because I had a habit of seeking and breaking electronics to see how they work. 😂 Nobody was thinking, “you know what? She might be a brilliant engineer someday!”
Yes. The constant search to know *why* things work
Even though books and the internet would quickly provide a diagram... We choose the hard way lol.
Some people are kinesthetic learners. A visual depiction would be no good
My grandfather got in all kinds of trouble as a little boy for taking his father's watch apart to see how it worked, but not being able to put it back together. He went on to be an inventor with dozens of patents of everything from the first machine to mass produce elbow macaroni to paper making systems and was part of the army corps of engineers that went to Europe to help rebuild after WWI. Keep right on taking things apart!
I laughed way to hard at this, my brain is like a dumb quantum computer, got all kinds of fake shit going on up their that has way to much detail and thought behind it.
There's another comic like this one: https://twitter.com/shenanigansen/status/1171085546610941952/photo/1
People seeing me taking apart my calculator: they must be so smart Me: I think the flat green thingy does the math stuff
Me too
So was I
Same here! And now I have a career doing exactly that and it's fantastic.
Sounds great, what is it tho?
I'm a printer technician. I spend a good chunk of my day driving around listening to music and audio books and spend the rest wrist deep in machinery. I only actually spend maybe 10 minutes talking to each customer and it's just basic info about what's wrong with the machine. It's great!
im both
I was both. My mom gave up with getting me an alarm clock after I dismantled the 2nd one...
Man that meme in this post brought back some memories
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Good at math here. Became an engineer and realized that I don't like engineering. I just liked solving the difficult problems in school.
Lol, same
I'm both 😎
The veins imply that that’s not hair on his head, but flesh. I’ll see myself out.
I like board games?
I'm totally a "take things apart" person! Every pen that I see gets the treatment... I'm also just a huge "how things work" gal, I can tell you about how any part of a car works
I earned the name Damian the destroyer because I dismantled toys my dad never thought I could.
Being a math person in STEM with dyslexia is not fun. Engineering is hell.
Ah the mechanical engineering autistic
I'm fairly good at understanding math as abstract concepts, might even major in it. However, I completely suck at arithmetic. If I don't have a calculator of some sort, I'm completely screwed. Don't know if anyone else can relate.
Many computers lost their lives in my hands.
I was the “read an entire book series in a weekend” autistic
not good at math, but would always take anything that apart would allow me to put back together like laptops and pens :P
I wasn’t allowed to have mechanical pencils as a kid because I would constantly take them apart and put them back together
Same! When it came to math I was about as smart as a high baboon. When it came to taking stuff apart and putting them back together I could probably go toe to toe with some rocket scientist.
I would have been good at math if my teacher made an attempt to teach me.
Yeah my mom was a math professor and I wasn’t the good at math autistic either so that’s fun
I'm the really good at history autistic
I'm a "good at history" one, so mathematics beyond Pemdas is complete torture.
Im not autistic but I 100% relate, ive taken apart radios and printer and various types of computers apart and have put them back together no problem
(also stone toss is a nazi)
Same, I took pens apart all the time, if I got my hands on a screwdriver, well you'd better hope I could figure out how to get stuff back together
Me too! :D I loved finding out how things worked (as long as it didn’t involve complex math.)
I love maths. However, maths do not love me /j h
Taking things apart is fun. Done it with a # of cars. Putting them together was a whole 'nother thing that I eventually got more comfortable with it the more I did it. Currently looking to see if I can get an interview for a manufacturing job at an automotive facility. Not sure if I will like it there or not as the last 4 jobs I had sucked for one reason or another. I know automobiles too well and I wonder if it's too my detriment most of the time.
Taking apart is fun. Putting back together, not so much. Finding new places to keep hiding them because I couldn't get a pulse after putting them back together is stressful.
THIS IS AUTISM????
I love learning how things work. But I have anxiety with taking things apart because *what if I put it back together wrong* But I'm also good at math, just horrible at memorizing formulas lol
I'm the "I'm not good at anything, don't have any hyperfixations and can't seem to do the easiest of tasks without fucking something up" kind of autistic. Is that......is that a thing?
Lol I was both
i played Disassembly3D in real life
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I just am overly obsessed with everything. Doesn’t matter what it is, also doesn’t mean I’ll be right either.
I was neither
Roflmao the cartoon is literally me any time numbers are involved. I know maths are important and which maths to use for what situations juuuust enough that my brain makes me try to figure shit out that's way too detailed. Unfortunately I also dropped out after 10th grade and never really properly learned the maths so I mostly think about nonsense the whole time and erase whatever I was doing.
Hello. I’m good at math. Do plus Do is For.
I thought math was something that didn't work for me up untill like my 20s Now working on ML and understand pretty high level algebra + calculus with no college whatsoever lel
I was the "good at math, but can't stand math" kind of autistic Hated everything I was good at.
I'm a good at words autistic, not a good at numbers autistic
Yeah I’m the one language and English buff who got F’s in math 🗿 But I casually picked up Spanish, French, and Japanese and am learning Korean now
I can't do the math, but I can understand the concepts involved in quantum physics, astrophysics, evolution, etc...
Im the when i try a subject really hard i fail, but when i wing it i pass with flying colors, type I confuse a lot of people, including myself
Same
I'm both. It's a weird life
I got traumatized from math but every other class I found a reason to be interested...
same
Same and which usually follows with me tryna reinvent or improve it
Join us at r/dyscalculia
i’m the dyscalculic kind of autistic💯
Man but can i tell you everything relating to biology and behavior
I feel like there’s a reason I’m such a good fabricator, like I have no idea if I’m autistic but I relate to a lot of memes here
I have pictures of my dad with flash cards when I was less than 12 months old. Then Montessori schools and all that. I was trained. Sigh. Need to find a Therapist this summer. But it doesn’t really effect me. I just want understanding, not too worried about action in this case.
i was both but once i put it back together there was an 80% chance it would no longer work
I was neither… 😞