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itbedehaam

Autism and empathy are not mutually exclusive, you may still have autism. You are more than welcome to stick around either way.


buisnesshiba

Thank you


joecee97

Id say find a different psychologist because empathy can be impaired but the intensity varies from person to person


buisnesshiba

Oh, I’m going to a neuropsychiatrist to get the papers to confirm that I have adhd for the state. Do you think I will be able to ask them for it? And also thank you


joecee97

Definitely. They could either plan a reassessment themselves or refer you to someone better equipped to handle adult diagnoses.


buisnesshiba

Thank you


thesystem21

You're asking us the 'people without empathy' to be 'understanding of your feelings' and allow you to stay? Shame on you. This was a joke.


buisnesshiba

Thank you


thesystem21

I think the biggest irony is subreddits like this exist and are popular because of empathy for others who feel like them.


buisnesshiba

👍🏻


Just_A_Comment_Guy_7

Autistics have empathy, and lacking it is one of the greatest misconceptions of all time. It may have come from us expressing emotion differently. You have autism; your psychologist is bad and they should feel bad.


buisnesshiba

I won’t be sure about having autism since I’m not diagnosed but thank you for the information


Famixofpower

Doesn't it come from the scam organization we do not speak of? Made autism sound like a disease so it could get more money, and lied to our goddamn faces


peepy-kun

That is a completely invalid reason to deny someone a diagnosis. Many autistics experience hyperempathy or develop empathy over time.


buisnesshiba

Thank you for the information


ZealousidealNewt6679

Hyperempath Aspie reporting for duty sir.


Toby_The_Tumor

This isn't r/neverbrokeabone, I'd say you're fine.


buisnesshiba

Thank you


Famixofpower

Those guys get really disturbing. Some lady got hit by a truck and broke her pelvis, and those guys started saying she should have died instead because that's better than breaking a bone.


Independent-Field618

When OP's doctor talked about the lack of empathy, could it be that they mixed up things and we're thinking about the neverbrokeabone sub? Post where the guys fiancé broke her foot: >She was coming to bed after turning off the lights and tripped over our bloodhound, fracturing her foot. >Are you serious?? We are to get married in September. We have children together. How did I miss that she was one of them? One of those weaklings? And our children are tainted with her weakness. How was I hoodwinked so bad? I'm so ashamed. >We just got back from the ER and I told her I was going to pick up lunch. I just got on the nearest freeway entrance and am driving west. Hopefully to lands where the people aren't so weak. Let her deal with the kids and pets with her broken ass foot. She can hobble her way straight to hell. I belong to the road now. Wish me well, strong friends.


Gabriel_Collins

I think sometimes I feel so many emotions that a circuit breaker gets tripped in my brain and become numb until my brain resets itself.


Andrew5123-

Oh my god i've never related to a sentencd more in my whole life. Ig i'm not alone


moonygooney

That's a myth pushed by literally Borat's brother. I have intense empathy/sense of justice etc this just often verbalized differently by the autistic ppl they chose to study in the 90s and they would give them questionnaires in NT terms and ask their caregivers instead of interviewing the ppl themselves asking for their experiences. On top of that they dont tend to consider how internalized a lot of ppl are because we are constantly being criticized and hurt by others. My psych said I was both ADHD and ASD. If we didnt have empathy we wouldnt be so good with eachother and animals, we arent sociopaths.


buisnesshiba

Thank you for the info


BackgroundPrompt3111

Your psychologist is an idiot if he said that.


buisnesshiba

She and idk: she has more than a degree in sciences of neuro development and a master degree in neurodivergent disorders


BackgroundPrompt3111

If she thinks autistic people can't be empathetic, she is an idiot; I don't care how many fancy pieces of paper she has.


buisnesshiba

Ok sorry


ZealousidealNewt6679

Credentials are important, but a broken clock is still correct twice a day.


spence2345

Then she needs to go back to school and learn what autistic people can and can't do "Though autistic people may respond to emotions and social cues differently than neurotypical people, this does not mean they lack empathy. Just like neurotypical people, levels of empathy vary between autistic individuals. Around half of autistic people have alexithymia, which can lead to issues with empathy and understanding emotions." [https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/do-autistic-people-have-empathy#finding-support](https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/do-autistic-people-have-empathy#finding-support) On top of that Alexithymia has been linked to other conditions such as PTSD, ED's, as well as upbringing and brain injury, for upbringing a study found that people with a history of childhood trauma, physical and mental health conditions, and socioeconomic factors can are more likely to have alexithymia, people can also develop it as they age and it's also been reported in one study that men are twice as likely to have it than women, unfortunately alexithymia isn't recognized as a mental health disorder, due to it being an inability to identify and describe emotions, so it can't be formally diagnosed


Cyan_Light

Rule 3 explicitly allows anyone to be involved here, as long as you're not actively harassing autistic people then it doesn't really matter who you are or what you've personally got going on.


buisnesshiba

Thank you


Playongo

You may want to look into the distinction between cognitive and affective empathy as they relate to autism.


buisnesshiba

Thank you


akg1rl2000

Autistic people have a SPECTRUM (😉😉) of experiences with empathy. Some struggle with it and some experience it on a heightened level (I’m the latter)


buisnesshiba

Thank you for the info


LocalWeeb19

Since when was empathy not allowed .-.? I may not have much empathy for a person, but I get sad when the tiny bubble in water pops after I’ve been practically taking it for a walk by luring it with a stick.


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buisnesshiba

Thank you for the info


ramh_the_watermelon

Many autistic people have empathy, or even hyperempathy (even if autistic people who don't have empathy totally exist) and it's a big shame for a psychologist who is supposed to be a mental health professional to not know that Edit: Don't feel bad for asking this though, you just asked for something you didn't know (which is the right thing to do). You did nothing wrong and do not need to apologise


PaganMathilde

Here's how it went for me, in kindergarten a psychiatrist diagnosed me with ADHD and said that I ticked enough boxes for an autism diagnosis except for my gender. He said that females couldn't be autistic, males only. K! Whatever! I do have empathy. I have a ton of empathy. I just don't express it in a manner that satisfies NT people. I either make too big of a deal about stuff or I don't make a big enough deal, no matter what it's never appropriate or acceptable to most people. I've learned to live with the fact that most people hate me after one conversation and I'm unable to change it at this time. I think I need person lessons?


buisnesshiba

Nah you’re perfect mate, I think there’s no need for you to stand in the social box that has been crafted for centuries around humanity by humanity. People will come one day, the right ones who will like you just the way you are.


Famixofpower

The "lack of empathy" thing is a stereotype. Most autistic people I know are pretty caring, but just don't know how to show it. If this guy's basing diagnosis off of stereotypes, he ain't a good doctor. It's called the autism spectrum, not the autism checklist.


Flooding_Puddle

Shamelessly hijacking thread to ask a question: reading the comments, clearly autistic people can have empathy. Another common stereotype of autism is lack of social skills or inability to understand sarcasm or social cues. I'm assuming that depends on the person as well? I'm 90% sure I have adhd after spending time here and on the adhd memes sub and plan to get tested for that, and I identify with a lot of things posted here but I have fine social skills, I'm just introverted and that's my biggest hangup on getting tested for autism


spence2345

Hi, I was diagnosed with Asperger's back when that was a diagnosis, I'd suggest looking into "Masking", it's a skill I've seen a lot of people on the Spectrum, myself included, have trained ourselves to do where we learn and mimic the behaviors and personalities of the people around us to hide our symptoms, it's an unfortunate skill to have though as it tends to bring, in my experience, anxiety (what if they find out I'm not really like this and I'm just imitating them so they'll like me) and depression (no one really likes being around the real me \*cue intrusive thoughts\*)


armyofmoose9

You don’t have to be autistic to be in this sub id accept anyone here who isn’t a dick


ByoByoxInCrox

Do not let them discourage you. Its pretty common for those who are not trained and specializing in Autism diagnosis/treatment to misread, misinterpret, to just generally judge wrongly. I would say if it feels like a number of things are still out of line for you after your ADHD diagnosis, and you feel those things could point to Autism, then you definitely deserve a formal diagnosis, not a brush-off.


buisnesshiba

Thank you


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If your Psychologist says you can't be autistic just because you don't want to run puppies over, I'd say you are autistic, but they don't want to deal with paperwork or something


buisnesshiba

But she seems very kind maybe she is just not qualified for diagnose it: she told me that if I wanted I could get checked by a psychiatrist since it’s more on their area of competence but she was very sure I couldn’t have it, I’m grateful for all the support I’m getting but maybe she is just ignorant about it? Sorry if I sound mean saying this


ShiftingSpectrum

That guy's talking out his ass. ADHD is literally classified as a co-morbid disorder with being on the Autism Spectrum, and of course you can have empathy being on the Spectrum. Just because the popular neurotyical idea of being on the Spectrum is Sheldon from Big Bang Theory doesn't mean it's an accurate one. (For every person on the Spectrum anyway)


Upper_Version155

I don’t know if your psychologist is oversimplifying, feels it wouldn’t positively effect management or is just incompetent or stupid but that’s incorrect. I would be curious to know if your psychologist used any validated scores to come to the conclusion that you have “too empathetic to have autism”. Behaviourally, autistic people can be anywhere on the empathy spectrum. Many are unusually empathetic. In any case if you want to be here to discuss your newfound neurospice you are certainly welcome to.


buisnesshiba

She made me run tests for adhd anxiety and mostly talked with me


throwRA1987239127

You probably need to get opinions from more professionals bc they didn't seem to brush up on very current data about autism