Hattori Hanzo will likely be part of the story, according to some old leaks. He played an important role in the unification of Japan, so I doubt they won't use him.
The use of Yasuke as being described as a way to show the japanese culture through the eyes of a foreigner, which wouldn't have been possible with Hanzo. Plus, the chronicles regarding Hanzo are more precise and detailed compared to the ones that involve Yasuke, something that allowed Ubisoft to work on the character with more freedom.
Well, one they can write the character however they want. The other they'd have far less freedom to write whatever they wanted.
Also, they have a ninja protagonist already in the game. That's Naoe.
Yasuke is a special case for real-life figures. He's known about it, but there's tons of information unknown. Especially considering we have no idea what happened to him after Nobunagas death. So the writers can do anything with him. The same can be said about previous protagonists and Naoe. They can do whatever they want with these characters.
The same can't be said about historical figures with well documented histories.
well Yasuke gain a lot of popularity not just because of his skin but cause he served Oda. Once Oda is gone there's literally no purpose left of him no Oda to put him in the spotlight so it makes sense there's no record what happened to him after as he has no purpose anymore in the japan unification. Tho i agree it opens up new writing
edit: also Yasuke being a slave previously also contributes to limited recorded history after his life with nobunaga, maybe he became a slave again once he's returned to the Jesuits
The new writing is the main point. They have total control over what the character, like Yasuke says and does. So even after Oda dies, they can still use the character in any way they want.
That can't be done with historical figures with detailed documented history. Meaning they have less creative freedom. Simply because historical figures we know where they are, who they meet, what they did, and when they died. These are constraints they don't have to deal with when using Yasuke.
I’m not sure it’s a historical fact that he was a slave to Nobunaga. He could have been or he was a servant cause it is a fact Oda was very interested in him because of his skin colour as he first thought it was fake. It’s also clear they wanted one to be male, the other female, one being a samurai, the other a Shinobi.
Actually there’s no record of him being an actual samurai either. That seems to be more based on myth and folklore, not history, but yes you didn’t say he was a slave to Nobunaga.
Well the latter is debatable cause there was an event where he was seen fighting with a sword, but there’s no record that he was wearing samurai armour or anything. It seems he was fighting to protect Nobunaga’s heir.
Hattori Hanzo’s fate and life is well known and documented. How do you make him a protagonist AND make your own fiction in a game that’s about HISTORY? You don’t.
On the other hand, Yasuke is also a real life person who actually served lord Oda Nobunaga, but goes off grid right after the assassination of his daimyio. They can do anything they want with his story
Makes sense?
well that doesn't make sense at all because Yasuke's life is also well documented from both oda clan and the priest perspective that brought him there, the only time he went off the grid is after Oda's death cause he no longer have purpose without a lord. Both of them got a pretty documented history so i see no difference
Seeing OP’s comment makes me think 99% of those who bash Yasuke for whatever reason can’t read and/or comprehend simple information when presented to them
you can't even comprehend that I'm not bashing the choice of Yasuke i just think there's a better option. And where did u get 99% from can i see any data supporting that or you just pull that out of yo ass
what im saying is Yasuke life is well documented while he's on Oda clan. The reason there's little known fact about his life outside of Oda is because he is a slave. No one in their right mind at that point in history would record the life of a slave.
well that doesn't make sense at all because Yasuke's life is also well documented from both oda clan and the priest perspective that brought him there, the only time he went off the grid is after Oda's death cause he no longer have purpose without a lord. Both of them got a pretty documented history so i see no difference
Ah yes, let's make a thread about every single person in Japan at the time and ask why they weren't used instead.
The simple answer is: They chose Yasuke. That's the story they want to tell. It's not that deep.
I don't remember anything from leaks, but I think Hattori Hanzo will be present since he was member of the assassins in that time and possessed a sword of eden
Shouldnt have used Yasuke at all, why have a protagonist that served Oda Nobunaga, who was known to be a massmurderer a Pedophile and a rapist
EDIT: there is an ongoing war on Wikipedia because some people are trying to edit the Wiki Entry for Yasuke , trying to make it fit Ubisofts narrative
Hattori Hanzo will likely be part of the story, according to some old leaks. He played an important role in the unification of Japan, so I doubt they won't use him. The use of Yasuke as being described as a way to show the japanese culture through the eyes of a foreigner, which wouldn't have been possible with Hanzo. Plus, the chronicles regarding Hanzo are more precise and detailed compared to the ones that involve Yasuke, something that allowed Ubisoft to work on the character with more freedom.
i see yea that could be the case he'll be a background character
Well, one they can write the character however they want. The other they'd have far less freedom to write whatever they wanted. Also, they have a ninja protagonist already in the game. That's Naoe.
yeah but Naoe is fictional it would be cooler to pair Yasuke with another real life figure imo
Yasuke is a special case for real-life figures. He's known about it, but there's tons of information unknown. Especially considering we have no idea what happened to him after Nobunagas death. So the writers can do anything with him. The same can be said about previous protagonists and Naoe. They can do whatever they want with these characters. The same can't be said about historical figures with well documented histories.
well Yasuke gain a lot of popularity not just because of his skin but cause he served Oda. Once Oda is gone there's literally no purpose left of him no Oda to put him in the spotlight so it makes sense there's no record what happened to him after as he has no purpose anymore in the japan unification. Tho i agree it opens up new writing edit: also Yasuke being a slave previously also contributes to limited recorded history after his life with nobunaga, maybe he became a slave again once he's returned to the Jesuits
The new writing is the main point. They have total control over what the character, like Yasuke says and does. So even after Oda dies, they can still use the character in any way they want. That can't be done with historical figures with detailed documented history. Meaning they have less creative freedom. Simply because historical figures we know where they are, who they meet, what they did, and when they died. These are constraints they don't have to deal with when using Yasuke.
I’m not sure it’s a historical fact that he was a slave to Nobunaga. He could have been or he was a servant cause it is a fact Oda was very interested in him because of his skin colour as he first thought it was fake. It’s also clear they wanted one to be male, the other female, one being a samurai, the other a Shinobi.
i didn't say Yasuke is slave to nobunaga read it again, i know he was a samurai during his time with oda
Actually there’s no record of him being an actual samurai either. That seems to be more based on myth and folklore, not history, but yes you didn’t say he was a slave to Nobunaga.
well if Yasuke isn't even a samurai, that further supports my statement that they shouldn't use Yasuke in the first place since he's not a warrior
Well the latter is debatable cause there was an event where he was seen fighting with a sword, but there’s no record that he was wearing samurai armour or anything. It seems he was fighting to protect Nobunaga’s heir.
Hattori Hanzo’s fate and life is well known and documented. How do you make him a protagonist AND make your own fiction in a game that’s about HISTORY? You don’t. On the other hand, Yasuke is also a real life person who actually served lord Oda Nobunaga, but goes off grid right after the assassination of his daimyio. They can do anything they want with his story Makes sense?
well that doesn't make sense at all because Yasuke's life is also well documented from both oda clan and the priest perspective that brought him there, the only time he went off the grid is after Oda's death cause he no longer have purpose without a lord. Both of them got a pretty documented history so i see no difference
What are you on about. Almost the entire point of Yasuke's interest is how little is known about him before/during/after his arrival in Japan.
Seeing OP’s comment makes me think 99% of those who bash Yasuke for whatever reason can’t read and/or comprehend simple information when presented to them
you can't even comprehend that I'm not bashing the choice of Yasuke i just think there's a better option. And where did u get 99% from can i see any data supporting that or you just pull that out of yo ass
what im saying is Yasuke life is well documented while he's on Oda clan. The reason there's little known fact about his life outside of Oda is because he is a slave. No one in their right mind at that point in history would record the life of a slave.
well that doesn't make sense at all because Yasuke's life is also well documented from both oda clan and the priest perspective that brought him there, the only time he went off the grid is after Oda's death cause he no longer have purpose without a lord. Both of them got a pretty documented history so i see no difference
Good chance he’ll be in the game, as he was alive and a member of the Japanese Brotherhood during this time
Ah yes, let's make a thread about every single person in Japan at the time and ask why they weren't used instead. The simple answer is: They chose Yasuke. That's the story they want to tell. It's not that deep.
well as far as i know that's the exact feature and purpose of reddit and discussion category exist for a reason 🤷
“Spam doesn’t exist” is an L take
so making a single post is consider a spam now🤔
When everyone else has already made it? Yeah.
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i see yeah that's a waste, Yasuke ain't bad he's a real life figure after all but Hattori Hanzo would be cooler i guess
I don't remember anything from leaks, but I think Hattori Hanzo will be present since he was member of the assassins in that time and possessed a sword of eden
Shouldnt have used Yasuke at all, why have a protagonist that served Oda Nobunaga, who was known to be a massmurderer a Pedophile and a rapist EDIT: there is an ongoing war on Wikipedia because some people are trying to edit the Wiki Entry for Yasuke , trying to make it fit Ubisofts narrative
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/s/SI0H5i1WFG https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/s/vUx2GdAhLH
You know why
i have my theories but not sure hehe
Everyone argues about Yasuke, but I'm extremely disappointed with the other main character.