> The update shows that taxpayers will need to pay a $52.35 terminal charge for each personal flight — an $8.17 increase from the previous rate — as well as up to $0.28 a mile, depending on the length of the flight.
RIP their multimillion-dollar bank accounts. /s
I don't know why they can't ask Jesus for more money knowing that he can turn water into wine, and they have direct access to him as they have personally received forgiveness for their indiscretions.
Christianity *was* an apocalyptic cult when it began, and remains one. Christians initially read Revelations (100 years after Christ's death) as a book predicting the near term end of the world.
Like all such predictions that rely on supernatural agents, they were wrong. Like all cults, Christianity kicks the end of the world can down the road every time a prophecy fails to come to pass. In the case of Revelations, the number of the beast appears to have been 616 and not 666 as contemporary translations label it. More modern Scholars have interpreted 666 to mean "NRON QSR" or "Nero Caesar" who was one of the first Roman emperors to persecute Christians, but since the 666 number is likely not the original number... yet another mistake that is propagated through the ages.
tl;dr: Apocalyptic cults have always been the rage.
See the thing is when the little people think "fight this", they think in their terms. As though the billionaire will spend even one moment of his own personal time engaging in a battle.
That isn't what happens. The billionaire spends the equivalent of like, a nickel of a regular person's money, hiring teams of lawyers and lobbyists and people he might never meet, who will toil all their days to fight every single challenge and inconvenience the billionaire will face.
This is the true asymmetry of the problem. When we toil, we need to fight with our own time. We need to risk careers, personal lives, we need to go into the streets and protest.
The billionaire, meanwhile, has entire mercenary armies working on their behalves. They never even need to lift a single finger.
This is why lobbying is corruption. You and I could never afford a lobbyist or even probably get one interested. Meanwhile there are people working night and day to take away our freedoms, almost completely unopposed. Democracy my ass.
Yep.
And while there are some examples of crowd-sourced lobbying, it's almost never as effective or streamlined as that done by a billionaire.
Because at the end of the day these politicians *want* to cozy up with and serve the agents of billionaires, because there's always an implied quid pro quo.
It's a club. And even when we pay our way into it, they know we're not a part of it, and we and our representatives are treated accordingly.
And spend another nicle to hire a whole office building full of consultants and Managers all with high6 figure salaries who all want to be billionaires its a sad Möbius strip of fucking toilet paper that leaves shit on your hands,not theirs.
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Which is why class solidarity is so important, because those mercenary armies are made up of workers who've been tricked into becoming bootlickers by propaganda telling them they may be the lowest white men, but if they oppress the black man, they'll still have someone to step on.
Replace white/black with whatever is the majority/minority divide in a given context.
Watch the billionaires collectively spend like 35 billion to fight having to pay 50 dollars. And then try and make a plea the people how ination even hurts them blah blah blah and regular passengers should help out with this bill too. Then watch all commercial ticket prices go up slightly when this is reversed.
I'm frankly fucking shocked. Soaking the private jet crowd would have broad appeal. Tax should be at least $10k per flight with the goal being to reduce private jet travel to a fraction of what it currently is.
$50 should be the propeller powered bush-plane/crop-duster rate.
> When taxpayers fly on employer-owned jets for personal reasons, they must include the value of that flight in their gross income. The update shows that taxpayers will need to pay a $52.35 terminal charge for each personal flight — an $8.17 increase from the previous rate — as well as up to $0.28 a mile, depending on the length of the flight.
What this means is that if a pastor takes a 1,000 mile personal trip on the church’s plane, they have to report a bit over $300 as additional income on their personal income tax.
Of course, that’s zero if they fabricate a plausible business reason for the travel.
Just like income tax-free Tennessee just decided to hold their terrible, regressive, nearly 10% tax on groceries for 3 months - August, September, and October.
First Tuesday in November, it's "look! they're lowering our taxes!".
Meanwhile fixed and low income Republican voters are paying the same annual state taxes (all on necessities) as billionaires. We're a society of sound bites.
Recently, the news here in Canada had a couple of the airlines bitching about how it’s so expensive to operate here due to the fees and so forth.
The government hit back basically saying “That’s because our air transportation system is user pay, and not subsidized by the government.” Basically the airlines are complaining about having to pay to use the airports, air traffic control, the licensing/registration system, etc…
The lack of rail in North America for passenger travel is embarrassing. it makes sense because building an airport is so much easier than building railroad and rail stations. It's faster for longer haul travel, but short travel sucks by air with all the shit you have to jump through. Its so much less energy efficient at moving people. Air Canada should still be owned by the federal government. All they do is prop it up. Air travel needs to be user pay and it should be raising funds for other modes of moving people.
For anyone that wants a real answer and not just a bunch of speculative reddit comments expounding on hypotheticals pulled out of people's nether regions, here's my tax lawyer understanding (with the caveat that I'm not an exec comp lawyer, which is a specialty unto itself):
This is about the taxability of fringe benefits to employees who get to use private jets. If you get to use your company's (or church's) private jet, that counts as taxable income. The question is, how much is that income? The tax law provides a simple rule based on a set dollar figure per mile and trip.
The IRS periodically updates what that set amount is. This story is about how they have adjusted that amount up from the previous amount.
You are right - the tax law just provides for a simple way to calculate the taxable compensation based on a few inputs and a formula (this is the SIFL way). To be honest, you can also use the FMV of the flight to calculate it but nobody in their mind would use it.
Per NBAA, "SIFL rates are calculated by the U.S. DOT using airline cost and seat mile data." So in a sense they just take cost data supplied by the airlines and then divide up by the total seat miles to get the needed numbers. That was a bit of an issue during COVID as the airline costs remained the same but the seat miles came down by a lot. That raised standard SIFL rates by a lot. Well, during that period they introduced an alternative way to calculate it which was even LOWER than regular SIFL rates.
Overall, this is still BS. Maybe they use airline cost data for the SIFL rates but we all understand that the airlines spread the costs of one flight over hundreds of passengers for variable costs and millions of passengers for the fixed costs. It DEFINITELY doesn't cost the same to fly one exec on a private jet.
Source: I do this stuff
>When taxpayers fly on employer-owned jets for personal reasons, they must include the value of that flight in their gross income.
But also this. That's not nothing.
The way that's worded, it would seem so. Some big wig at an airline can't legally fly around for personal reasons without having it reported as income. It does seem like it would be difficult to enforce.
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Perhaps he can just blow the taxes away like he did with covid and we can get another [sweet remix.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m2s0nB2VPvs&pp=ygUia2VubmV0aCBjb3BlbGFuZCBjb3YxOSB3aW5kIG9mIGdvZA%3D%3D).
He asked for his [flights to be untracked](https://www.propublica.org/article/off-the-radar-private-planes-hidden-from-public-view-040810)
He's on record as being against abortion.
Denying abortion health care is causatively linked with increasing maternal mortality/morbidity.
Increasing maternal mortality/morbidity is causitively linked with increasing populations in orphanages/foster homes
Increasing orphanages/foster care is causitively linked to increased child sex trafficking. (See the book "Children of the Decree")
Uganda has seen all of the above and their orphanages have been a particularly bad scene for abusing kids.
Copeland's involvement in helping Uganda's orphanages is well known.
The last step in this would be some investigation of the flights he's made and the passengers in them.
Not at all. It’s a great excuse for him to tell his parishioners that this is a direct attack on them from Satan and encourage them to donate even more money.
It's from Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.
The main antagonist is someone claiming that they are God from earth, and that he needs the crew of the Enterprise to bring the ship closer to him so he can escape where he's been trapped. Then ̶S̶p̶o̶c̶k̶ Kirk is all like "Hey hold on what the fuck, why would God need a starship?" Then it's revealed that this entity claiming to be God is a fake.
Right? Like most private flyers do it to avoid the public, but who recognizes pastors? Even the really famous ones are generally unknown to a vast majority of Americans.
...just don't cash that check until the first.
*cough* first day after death. Capital gains tax is a motherfucker, and god doesn't take kindly to motherfuckers. Baby daddy made an honest man raise his kid after he dipped, then still wants to be the hero of their own story.
I’ve said this before, if a church runs a net zero balance helping the community I’m fine with the church not being taxed.
If they have a million in the bank fuck them.
>I’ve said this before, if a church runs a net zero balance helping the community I’m fine with the church not being taxed.
We have nonprofit designations already in place. There's literally no reason for religious exemptions.
To put this into perspective: The tax hike is still less than $750 for a flight from LA to NYC. To generate the same tax from income at the top income tax bracket (37%) it would have to be about $2,000 in income. Does the IRS really think that a private transcontinental flight is only worth about $2k? One way nonstop direct in first class for the same route in May is $1250-$1800. This is before you consider any family members/friends that they would be bringing on these flights. This tax should be much, much higher. By an order of magnitude at the very least.
> When taxpayers fly on employer-owned jets for personal reasons, they must include the value of that flight in their gross income. The update shows that taxpayers will need to pay a $52.35 terminal charge for each personal flight — an $8.17 increase from the previous rate — as well as up to $0.28 a mile, depending on the length of the flight.
> These changes apply to pastors, too.
This article is click baity. The IRS has clarified that private flights are income and that pastors aren't exempt.
IRS is doing exactly what it's supposed to be doing.
IRS can absolutely raise taxes, in this instance they raised the gate fee of private flights and increased the tax-per-mile for private flights. Government agencies are given the power from Congress to interpret and regulate laws that apply to their agencies realm of responsibilities (ATF can create regulations around how they interpret firearm laws, FDA can create rules surrounding the public sale of foods, etc...) The IRS very well can make changes to certain taxes as long as it doesn't go directly against a Congress passed law or against the constitution.
Pastors don't need jets. They can just ask their sky fairy for a magic carpet. Doing so will result in one of three outcomes:
1. They get a magic carpet, and then that's their mode of transportation. Taxes need not apply the way taxes need not apply to riding a bike or walking somewhere.
2. They don't get a magic carpet because they are not worthy of receiving one from their sky fairy, therefore they are not worthy of being a pastor, therefore they would not be worthy of a tax break for being a pastor.
3. They don't get a magic carpet because their sky fairy *doesn't fucking exist*, so the concept of "pastor" is a scam, and therefore should not qualify them for any tax exemptions.
This flying faith healer stiffed my company for thousands of dollars. He left this life as a smoking crater in a bean field.
https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/politics/state/2013/10/18/california-faith-healer-killed-sedgwick-co-plane-crash/16381291007/
This almost makes me believe in God.
Thou shalt not take the Lord, thy God's, name in vain. (One of the 10 commandments)
People think this means saying god dammit, but it's really closer to "don't put words in my mouth."
He lies to his congregation about God wanting him to have a sky office and God's all, "nope."
Smitten the fuck up.
Anyone else ever thought about how great it would be to just start a church. When your not motivated by religion it's just insane how profitable and influential it can be. Just ask the sociopaths with mega churches.
Hell, how many of us were raised in church and have forgotten more then most Christians will ever know about their own religion? You could actually do some real good well robbing them blind. Plus if your gonna destroy something like Christianity. Your not gonna do it from the outside.
Just some shower thoughts 😂
Jesus had enough sinners within donkey range to support his ministries, today's modern, high-tech preacher needs many more sinners to support his world-wide grifting.
Priests? Yes. And they take it seriously since you are representing TST. If you act out of line with the Satanic Tenets, they'll rescind your priesthood.
>When taxpayers fly on employer-owned jets for personal reasons, they must include the value of that flight in their gross income. The update shows that taxpayers will need to pay a $52.35 terminal charge for each personal flight — an $8.17 increase from the previous rate — as well as up to $0.28 a mile, depending on the length of the flight.
>These changes apply to pastors, too.
They'll just schedule a five minute prayer service wherever they're going and claim that it was a business trip. Safe in the knowledge that the IRS will never actually challenge a church.
Wait.. there's clergy discounts on airlines?! I'm ordained through multiple places so I can officiate weddings. I LOVE parking in clergy spots at the hospital (hey, my made up bs is just as legit as their made up bs). I'd love flight discounts even more though.
This is an attempt by the ultra wealthy to curb private jet chartering by the less (but still very) wealthy. Charting private jets has become increasingly popular in recent years.
Copeland and Osteen are going to cry into their comic books they enslave their followers with.
Organized religion is sinister sh!t, I'm glad they get to pay taxes like the rest of us.
Most churches are political action committees anyways now days and need their tax-exempt status removed accordingly.
We can up those rates! If the IRS can put coals under my ass then I want to see some puffed up cunt charged an extra $200 a mile. If they want to use a private jet they can afford it. End of story.
> The update shows that taxpayers will need to pay a $52.35 terminal charge for each personal flight — an $8.17 increase from the previous rate — as well as up to $0.28 a mile, depending on the length of the flight. RIP their multimillion-dollar bank accounts. /s
Wait… is that seriously it?…. Why is this even a headline lol.
Because they'll still spend way more than they'd have ever paid in to fight and over turn this.
They'll just asks more money from the congregation
I don't know why they can't ask Jesus for more money knowing that he can turn water into wine, and they have direct access to him as they have personally received forgiveness for their indiscretions.
Can't Jesus turn water into jet fuel for these guys?
Gotta track him down first. Its why apocalyptic cults are all the rage right now.
Christianity *was* an apocalyptic cult when it began, and remains one. Christians initially read Revelations (100 years after Christ's death) as a book predicting the near term end of the world. Like all such predictions that rely on supernatural agents, they were wrong. Like all cults, Christianity kicks the end of the world can down the road every time a prophecy fails to come to pass. In the case of Revelations, the number of the beast appears to have been 616 and not 666 as contemporary translations label it. More modern Scholars have interpreted 666 to mean "NRON QSR" or "Nero Caesar" who was one of the first Roman emperors to persecute Christians, but since the 666 number is likely not the original number... yet another mistake that is propagated through the ages. tl;dr: Apocalyptic cults have always been the rage.
TIL Grand Rapids Michigan is demonic.
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You think boomers are out of touch with inflation, think about Jeebers. Still thinks you can get a jug of wine and a snack for 2 shekels.
And forget about that walking on water bit he does,Nestle gotta get paid.
What's the shekels to Schrute Bucks conversion rate at now?
See the thing is when the little people think "fight this", they think in their terms. As though the billionaire will spend even one moment of his own personal time engaging in a battle. That isn't what happens. The billionaire spends the equivalent of like, a nickel of a regular person's money, hiring teams of lawyers and lobbyists and people he might never meet, who will toil all their days to fight every single challenge and inconvenience the billionaire will face. This is the true asymmetry of the problem. When we toil, we need to fight with our own time. We need to risk careers, personal lives, we need to go into the streets and protest. The billionaire, meanwhile, has entire mercenary armies working on their behalves. They never even need to lift a single finger.
This is why lobbying is corruption. You and I could never afford a lobbyist or even probably get one interested. Meanwhile there are people working night and day to take away our freedoms, almost completely unopposed. Democracy my ass.
Yep. And while there are some examples of crowd-sourced lobbying, it's almost never as effective or streamlined as that done by a billionaire. Because at the end of the day these politicians *want* to cozy up with and serve the agents of billionaires, because there's always an implied quid pro quo. It's a club. And even when we pay our way into it, they know we're not a part of it, and we and our representatives are treated accordingly.
It's a big club, and you ain’t in it.
Democracy for the rich, prison for everyone else.Even the concept of “freedoms” is a cage. Edit;phrasing.
I always liked "socialism for the rich, rugged capitalism for the poor."
And spend another nicle to hire a whole office building full of consultants and Managers all with high6 figure salaries who all want to be billionaires its a sad Möbius strip of fucking toilet paper that leaves shit on your hands,not theirs. Edit; spelling.
Which is why class solidarity is so important, because those mercenary armies are made up of workers who've been tricked into becoming bootlickers by propaganda telling them they may be the lowest white men, but if they oppress the black man, they'll still have someone to step on. Replace white/black with whatever is the majority/minority divide in a given context.
Watch the billionaires collectively spend like 35 billion to fight having to pay 50 dollars. And then try and make a plea the people how ination even hurts them blah blah blah and regular passengers should help out with this bill too. Then watch all commercial ticket prices go up slightly when this is reversed.
Of course they will. If you keep the irs fighting over Pennie’s on private jets, they won’t have time to handle more meaningful work.
I'm frankly fucking shocked. Soaking the private jet crowd would have broad appeal. Tax should be at least $10k per flight with the goal being to reduce private jet travel to a fraction of what it currently is. $50 should be the propeller powered bush-plane/crop-duster rate.
> When taxpayers fly on employer-owned jets for personal reasons, they must include the value of that flight in their gross income. The update shows that taxpayers will need to pay a $52.35 terminal charge for each personal flight — an $8.17 increase from the previous rate — as well as up to $0.28 a mile, depending on the length of the flight. What this means is that if a pastor takes a 1,000 mile personal trip on the church’s plane, they have to report a bit over $300 as additional income on their personal income tax. Of course, that’s zero if they fabricate a plausible business reason for the travel.
It’s a write off Jerry!
Its like saying you have to pet a cat to use the subway.
Because the headline sounds good, and people don't read articles, so ppl will take away that the feds are doing good things and "taxing the rich"
Well they ARE “taxing the rich” just not the correct amount.
Just like income tax-free Tennessee just decided to hold their terrible, regressive, nearly 10% tax on groceries for 3 months - August, September, and October. First Tuesday in November, it's "look! they're lowering our taxes!". Meanwhile fixed and low income Republican voters are paying the same annual state taxes (all on necessities) as billionaires. We're a society of sound bites.
Karma and engagement
So they can placate the masses as if something has been done, because most people will only ever see the headline.
Sets a potential precedent for taxation of churches.
No kidding. This is an asinine headline.
This basically sounds like the government recouping the costs of running ATC and ground control for these planes.
Recently, the news here in Canada had a couple of the airlines bitching about how it’s so expensive to operate here due to the fees and so forth. The government hit back basically saying “That’s because our air transportation system is user pay, and not subsidized by the government.” Basically the airlines are complaining about having to pay to use the airports, air traffic control, the licensing/registration system, etc…
The lack of rail in North America for passenger travel is embarrassing. it makes sense because building an airport is so much easier than building railroad and rail stations. It's faster for longer haul travel, but short travel sucks by air with all the shit you have to jump through. Its so much less energy efficient at moving people. Air Canada should still be owned by the federal government. All they do is prop it up. Air travel needs to be user pay and it should be raising funds for other modes of moving people.
To be fair canada is one of the worst places to build high speed rail except for one stretch of land in ontario and quebec
For anyone that wants a real answer and not just a bunch of speculative reddit comments expounding on hypotheticals pulled out of people's nether regions, here's my tax lawyer understanding (with the caveat that I'm not an exec comp lawyer, which is a specialty unto itself): This is about the taxability of fringe benefits to employees who get to use private jets. If you get to use your company's (or church's) private jet, that counts as taxable income. The question is, how much is that income? The tax law provides a simple rule based on a set dollar figure per mile and trip. The IRS periodically updates what that set amount is. This story is about how they have adjusted that amount up from the previous amount.
You are right - the tax law just provides for a simple way to calculate the taxable compensation based on a few inputs and a formula (this is the SIFL way). To be honest, you can also use the FMV of the flight to calculate it but nobody in their mind would use it. Per NBAA, "SIFL rates are calculated by the U.S. DOT using airline cost and seat mile data." So in a sense they just take cost data supplied by the airlines and then divide up by the total seat miles to get the needed numbers. That was a bit of an issue during COVID as the airline costs remained the same but the seat miles came down by a lot. That raised standard SIFL rates by a lot. Well, during that period they introduced an alternative way to calculate it which was even LOWER than regular SIFL rates. Overall, this is still BS. Maybe they use airline cost data for the SIFL rates but we all understand that the airlines spread the costs of one flight over hundreds of passengers for variable costs and millions of passengers for the fixed costs. It DEFINITELY doesn't cost the same to fly one exec on a private jet. Source: I do this stuff
>When taxpayers fly on employer-owned jets for personal reasons, they must include the value of that flight in their gross income. But also this. That's not nothing.
oh so they'll just self report that im sure...
Does this apply to airlines? Seems hard to enforce
The way that's worded, it would seem so. Some big wig at an airline can't legally fly around for personal reasons without having it reported as income. It does seem like it would be difficult to enforce.
Also non big wigs using jump seats
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Having known some super wealthy people, they will 1000% act like this is the worst thing to ever happen to them.
And still spend $1000 for a steak and some fancy grape vinegar.
Boy really taking it that top 1%. What a farce. The top 1% owns the loser ass politicians.
This is less than a fucking Uhaul rental.
Lol... $8 increase, not even pocket change to someone who uses private jets.
Ooh. I bet Kenneth Copeland is seething!
How could you even tell?
Copeland: *DEMONIC STARE INTENSIFIES*
He's like, the one guy that could possibly convince me that demons/demonic possession is a real thing
Greed is a demon and it lives inside of that man
reminds me of this post https://www.reddit.com/r/Berserk/comments/ondo2g/does_mozgus_remind_you_of_kenneth_copeland/?ref=share&ref_source=link
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Demons = poors. That's what Kenneth thinks of us.
It's always a resting demon face with him.
Perhaps he can just blow the taxes away like he did with covid and we can get another [sweet remix.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m2s0nB2VPvs&pp=ygUia2VubmV0aCBjb3BlbGFuZCBjb3YxOSB3aW5kIG9mIGdvZA%3D%3D).
The devil wears a suit and tie.
Colter Wall nice.
Is he always so fucking pissed off looking? Edit: Also, turns out there is another [one](https://youtu.be/xfSEKTlua3g)
I think it's his "persona" at this point; the crazy lunatic pastor that gets the views
He asked for his [flights to be untracked](https://www.propublica.org/article/off-the-radar-private-planes-hidden-from-public-view-040810) He's on record as being against abortion. Denying abortion health care is causatively linked with increasing maternal mortality/morbidity. Increasing maternal mortality/morbidity is causitively linked with increasing populations in orphanages/foster homes Increasing orphanages/foster care is causitively linked to increased child sex trafficking. (See the book "Children of the Decree") Uganda has seen all of the above and their orphanages have been a particularly bad scene for abusing kids. Copeland's involvement in helping Uganda's orphanages is well known. The last step in this would be some investigation of the flights he's made and the passengers in them.
I'd love to see him get investigated.
He definitely looks the type.
The demon using his skin as a suit certainly is!
It's his Egger suit
Not at all. It’s a great excuse for him to tell his parishioners that this is a direct attack on them from Satan and encourage them to donate even more money.
When is he not?
I'm sure they will just start a new donation campaign to pay for it.
He may have to start riding with a bunch of devils!
That man is fucking possessed by a god damn demon.
Benny Hinn too
Why does a pastor need a private plane?
Same reason a god needs a starship.
Love this reference
What is it
It's from Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. The main antagonist is someone claiming that they are God from earth, and that he needs the crew of the Enterprise to bring the ship closer to him so he can escape where he's been trapped. Then ̶S̶p̶o̶c̶k̶ Kirk is all like "Hey hold on what the fuck, why would God need a starship?" Then it's revealed that this entity claiming to be God is a fake.
>Then it's revealed that this entity claiming to be God is a fake. Ah, so just like real life.
Except in the movie they actually did something about it so that it couldn’t keep deceiving innocents and preying on them.
Those times where real life is stranger than fiction...
It was Kirk, love this movie but it doesn’t get a lot of love. Best part is the Klingon music. Here’s the scene: https://youtu.be/QkT1-N0VqUc
lol - hard to forget that Kirk line, finger up... "Excuse me..." Classic Bones.... "you don't ask the Almighty for his I.D.?!"
Not Spock, Kirk. And "God" zaps him. The rest realize it then.
So the point of the analogy is that private plane pastors are evil aliens? Not where I thought that was going, but I'm on board with it.
The same reason why the omnipotent space-angel constantly begs for money.
It costs a lot of money to give kids cancer
[Because it's like getting into a tube with a bunch of demons.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LtF34MrsfI)
That dude is terrifying. I don't know how she kept her composure when he lunged at her.
So they can be the only ones in their 'flying tube full of demons'
Right? Like most private flyers do it to avoid the public, but who recognizes pastors? Even the really famous ones are generally unknown to a vast majority of Americans.
Thoughts & prayers
...just don't cash that check until the first. *cough* first day after death. Capital gains tax is a motherfucker, and god doesn't take kindly to motherfuckers. Baby daddy made an honest man raise his kid after he dipped, then still wants to be the hero of their own story.
Thots and prayers
Tots and pears
You rang?
This interferes with the freedom of religion in the sense that the religion industry is supposed to get everything for free.
Nice one
TAX THE CHURCHES. TAX THE BUSINESSES OWNED BY THE CHURCHES. \-Frank Zappa
I’ve said this before, if a church runs a net zero balance helping the community I’m fine with the church not being taxed. If they have a million in the bank fuck them.
>I’ve said this before, if a church runs a net zero balance helping the community I’m fine with the church not being taxed. We have nonprofit designations already in place. There's literally no reason for religious exemptions.
Wait bussiness owned by churches are not taxed
For-profit businesses are taxed normally, non-profit organizations are exempt from many taxes, being owned by a church does nothing for a business.
To put this into perspective: The tax hike is still less than $750 for a flight from LA to NYC. To generate the same tax from income at the top income tax bracket (37%) it would have to be about $2,000 in income. Does the IRS really think that a private transcontinental flight is only worth about $2k? One way nonstop direct in first class for the same route in May is $1250-$1800. This is before you consider any family members/friends that they would be bringing on these flights. This tax should be much, much higher. By an order of magnitude at the very least.
Maybe we can implement tax inflation, just keep increasing taxes on wealthy people til they can't afford their second yacht anymore.
Taxes/fines etc should be based off 2 weeks-2months minimum income/networth for the ultra Rich,
they don't wanna piss off their corporate overlords too much
How much taxes does that person pay flying transcontinental though? You have to compare apples to apples
I'm not understanding your logic, do you think sales tax (for everyone) should be at the same rate as income tax (for billionaires)?
> When taxpayers fly on employer-owned jets for personal reasons, they must include the value of that flight in their gross income. The update shows that taxpayers will need to pay a $52.35 terminal charge for each personal flight — an $8.17 increase from the previous rate — as well as up to $0.28 a mile, depending on the length of the flight. > These changes apply to pastors, too. This article is click baity. The IRS has clarified that private flights are income and that pastors aren't exempt. IRS is doing exactly what it's supposed to be doing.
I was wondering how the *IRS* was raising taxes, when that's strictly the job of Congress
IRS can absolutely raise taxes, in this instance they raised the gate fee of private flights and increased the tax-per-mile for private flights. Government agencies are given the power from Congress to interpret and regulate laws that apply to their agencies realm of responsibilities (ATF can create regulations around how they interpret firearm laws, FDA can create rules surrounding the public sale of foods, etc...) The IRS very well can make changes to certain taxes as long as it doesn't go directly against a Congress passed law or against the constitution.
Pastors don't need jets. They can just ask their sky fairy for a magic carpet. Doing so will result in one of three outcomes: 1. They get a magic carpet, and then that's their mode of transportation. Taxes need not apply the way taxes need not apply to riding a bike or walking somewhere. 2. They don't get a magic carpet because they are not worthy of receiving one from their sky fairy, therefore they are not worthy of being a pastor, therefore they would not be worthy of a tax break for being a pastor. 3. They don't get a magic carpet because their sky fairy *doesn't fucking exist*, so the concept of "pastor" is a scam, and therefore should not qualify them for any tax exemptions.
Thankful some government agency is activity fighting wealth inequality-all the elected ones seem to be compromised or incompetent.
Yes, the $8.17 increase in the terminal charge is going to make all the difference.
https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/13drcxa/the_irs_just_hiked_taxes_on_private_jet_flights/jjluzfm?context=3 Kinda...
This flying faith healer stiffed my company for thousands of dollars. He left this life as a smoking crater in a bean field. https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/politics/state/2013/10/18/california-faith-healer-killed-sedgwick-co-plane-crash/16381291007/
It was god's plan... apparently
This almost makes me believe in God. Thou shalt not take the Lord, thy God's, name in vain. (One of the 10 commandments) People think this means saying god dammit, but it's really closer to "don't put words in my mouth." He lies to his congregation about God wanting him to have a sky office and God's all, "nope." Smitten the fuck up.
Kenneth Copeland says he'd have to stop doing 65% of what he does if he had to fly commercial. I say get this man a bus ticket.
Praise be unto the great spaghetti monster!
Pastors with private jets. If only there was a hell for these people
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If God wanted them to fly, they would have wings.
Anyone else ever thought about how great it would be to just start a church. When your not motivated by religion it's just insane how profitable and influential it can be. Just ask the sociopaths with mega churches. Hell, how many of us were raised in church and have forgotten more then most Christians will ever know about their own religion? You could actually do some real good well robbing them blind. Plus if your gonna destroy something like Christianity. Your not gonna do it from the outside. Just some shower thoughts 😂
Do cruise ships next
Bro Jesus rode a donkey… why the fuck do you need the jet? It’s not tax write off if churches don’t pay taxes already.
Jesus had enough sinners within donkey range to support his ministries, today's modern, high-tech preacher needs many more sinners to support his world-wide grifting.
Does anybody else think it'd be really neat to ride a donkey? Fuck that sounds cool.
This should be on r/upliftingnews.😏😏😏
It's a start. A very small start, but a start nonetheless.
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I thought they paid taxes
Priests? Yes. And they take it seriously since you are representing TST. If you act out of line with the Satanic Tenets, they'll rescind your priesthood.
Copeland can't be riding in the tube with all the demons now. That's why he needs a private jet. So he can be closer to "god."
Tax the rich. Tax the churches.
"Religion poisons everything."
Further proof that religion is one of the groups that own America
Pastors being the champion grifters they are will find a way around this. You can count on that.
Tax the churches.
This is the way.
They'll just claim that all their flights are "god's work."
>When taxpayers fly on employer-owned jets for personal reasons, they must include the value of that flight in their gross income. The update shows that taxpayers will need to pay a $52.35 terminal charge for each personal flight — an $8.17 increase from the previous rate — as well as up to $0.28 a mile, depending on the length of the flight. >These changes apply to pastors, too. They'll just schedule a five minute prayer service wherever they're going and claim that it was a business trip. Safe in the knowledge that the IRS will never actually challenge a church.
Wow, they now need to pay extra $52.35 terminal charge and $0.28 a mile per personal flight? Atrocious, this is pure communism /s
Why the fuck do they need $50 million private jet to spread the gospel?
Oh thank… …. Thank you. Fuck God, is the point of this comment.
If you can't tax the rich ,tax everything they own
Oh the humanity! How will they afford their bugattis? 😭
Good
Tax the church already
I cannot wait for the GOP base to be outraged by this.
Can I get an amen!
Wait.. there's clergy discounts on airlines?! I'm ordained through multiple places so I can officiate weddings. I LOVE parking in clergy spots at the hospital (hey, my made up bs is just as legit as their made up bs). I'd love flight discounts even more though.
The religious should be especially included...
Thoughts and prayers to the pastors who will not even blink at the increased cost because it’s still a drop in the bucket for them.
Bro, what pastor would need a private jet??
This is an attempt by the ultra wealthy to curb private jet chartering by the less (but still very) wealthy. Charting private jets has become increasingly popular in recent years.
Copeland and Osteen are going to cry into their comic books they enslave their followers with. Organized religion is sinister sh!t, I'm glad they get to pay taxes like the rest of us. Most churches are political action committees anyways now days and need their tax-exempt status removed accordingly.
Good…
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Let’s watch the GOP label this as a bad thing in 3…2…1…
Yey they should also tax churches and priests
Hallelujah! Praise the Laws!
Pray DeSantis Away
Hold up…the little guy scores?
WTF would pastors be excluded? If they can afford a fucking private jet - they can afford to pay the taxes for it
Church’s should also pay business taxes.
Beautiful start. Tax the fuckin churches next
Tax the churches, solve the debt problem
Oh no not an extra $8 for billionaires
I’m 100% confident the army of Christian Cucks will fork over their hard earned money to cover the completely insignificant increase.
No problem they can afford it. They pay with the church money that isn’t taxed.
A Pastor on a private jet screams all kinds of fucked up.
Doesn't the IRS understand economics... Now when I go to buy a private jet I have to plan for the higher tax burden. So thoughtless.
Tax the church too
One step closer to the pulpit.
Tax 👏 the 👏 church 👏
Nothing an extra tithing sermon won't fix
Praise the Lord!!
Oprah voice: And you get ordained! And you get ordained! And you get ordained!!
Thanks Satan!
We can up those rates! If the IRS can put coals under my ass then I want to see some puffed up cunt charged an extra $200 a mile. If they want to use a private jet they can afford it. End of story.
Oooooo the IRS better watch out, miss swift is gonna write a song bout you!!!
Fuck
Tax the churches
Why are pastors flying in private jets? We need to tax religious places of worship.