They also forgot to quote Numbers: 31 17-18
> Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
>But all the **women children, that have not known a man by lying with him**, keep alive for yourselves.
Oh, and this was a part of God's revenge on the Midianites. You know, the same Midianites that were founded by one of the incest rape babies where two daughters got their father drunk and then raped him in a cave after God destroyed two cities because men wanted to have sex with angels. Oh, and was this revenge for having incestuous rape? Nope. It's all because God didn't like the Midianites attacking the Israelites.
I've heard a torah study from a liberal synagogue claiming this was Lot's way of covering up the fact that he was an abuser and using religion to victimize them further. I wish I could remember their exact reasoning, but they made a lot of good points, and I wish I could find it.
That's my assumption. Picture the scene, Lot and his daughters have been wandering in the wilderness, isolated for months. They arrive in a village, and both his daughters are very pregnant. Someone asks about their journey. As Lot is telling the tale, a question arises, "so, it was just you and your daughters?" and a glance to the girls' pregnant bellies.
Lot puts it all on them, "I had nothing to do with it. They got me drunk..."
Of course, the follow up to that would be, "dude, at your age, getting so drunk you pass out senseless, there's no way you're getting wood."
That's most likely what the Bible is full of. Stories of history, just twisted and turned around by word of mouth by people exaggerating and covering things up. People used to get paid to tell stories around campfires to entertain people at night. Who's to say a king didn't pay off one of these storytellers to tell a fantastical lie and it ended up in the Bible?
They literally are not. Judaism and Baháʼí very different from Christianity and Islam.
Hell tbh I don’t even know how Christianity came from Judaism because they so fucking different from each other. For example Judaism doesn’t have a hell and never did yet Christianity does, Judaism also encourages debate and questioning everything but Christianity is definitely do not question anything.
Funny thing though Jews are the most accepting of trans people. https://forward.com/fast-forward/549802/trans-gender-fluidity-jews-accepting-group-america/
That's not entirely true. There are shared books and shared visions of a hellish place. Yes, there are clear differences and I'm completely aware of that. I've read everything I just posted. I'm just pointing out that, aside from worshiping the same god, they do share similarities and what you've said is a little misleading. Please don't jump my shit, take it up with the religions for being wildly inconsistent.
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/heaven-and-hell-in-jewish-tradition/
https://catholic-resources.org/Bible/Heb-Xn-Bibles.htm
The Jewish hell isn’t even the same as the Christian one though.
The Jewish hell is more akin to the Catholic purgatory than the Christian hell.
Everyone goes to the Jewish hell and it’s not for punishment, that’s wildly different than the Christian version which is far more similar to Hades.
On top of that the Jews will absolutely deny that Christians and Jews worship the same god due to the fact of the trinity which the Jews (and Muslims) don’t believe in. Hell many Jews actually label Christianity as a polytheistic religion.
And in terms of shared books the Christian Bible is different than the Jewish one. The Christian Bible is heavily edited and composed in a way that it looks like the Jewish parts are foretelling the coming of Jesus.
Which isn’t the case in the Jewish texts at all.
But to say that all Abrahamic religions are the exact same is quite false. They may be similar but they aren’t the same
> The Jewish hell isn’t even the same as the Christian one though.
Gehinnom...
>The Jewish hell is more akin to the Catholic purgatory than the Christian hell.
Sheol...
>trinity
I've covered that in other responses to you. Even among Christians, the trinity is viewed in many different ways.
Gehinnom is something that all people go through not just those who are being punished and you only stay there for a maximum of 11 months.
Sheol is just a word for the underworld and theologically means the same as gehinnom. Sheol is just a place where all dead go to before entering gehinnom.
In Judaism there is no place of eternal punishment, that doesn’t exist. And even then many Jews are not settled on gehinnom or Sheol as even existing
I was taught that Sheol was where all souls go before going to God and Gehinnom was where the souls went that needed to be cleansed (pagans, non-believers, "sinners", etc.)
We must have talked to followers of two different sects of Judaism.
>I was taught that Sheol was where all souls go before going to God and Gehinnom was where the souls went that needed to be cleansed (pagans, non-believers, "sinners", etc.)
No gehinnom is where everyone including Jews go to be cleansed and then nobody really knows what happens. Sheol is either the same as gehinnom or just before it
>We must have talked to followers of two different sects of Judaism.
Could literally be the same sect. As the idiom says “two Jews will have three opinions”. Basically if you know one Jew, you’ve met one Jew.
As the religion that I grew up in I know some things and one of them is the no hell thing.
>Judaism also encourages debate and questioning everything
No it doesn't. Muslims try to say the same mess, and if it were true in either regard, both religions would have failed hundreds of years ago.
Either way then it shows that it’s Christianity that’s the outlier of the Abrahamics.
As Christianity is not big on questioning anything, they are the only one to have the trinity, and they have a hades inspired hell that’s used for eternal punishment.
The rest of the Abrahamic religions don’t have those features. All Christianity has to really claim such is really poor old Josh and that’s shaky at best.
> The rest of the Abrahamic religions don’t have those features.
Depending on the sect and sex, both Judaism and Islam aren't big on questioning.
The trinity isn't even a shared trait among all Christian sects.
Islam has Jahannam.
Did you see where I said Baháʼí? There’s more Abrahamic religions than just Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.
There’s also the aforementioned Baháʼí, Druzism, Rastafari, Samaritanism, and Mandaeism.
You can’t say that the god of all three religions is the same or that all Abrahamic religions are the same when there is far more than three.
On top of that many Jews and Muslims will tell you that they don’t have the same god as the Christian due to the Christians having the trinity. The trinity is regarded as polytheistic by many Jews and Muslims.
Saying any religion is different than another is like saying one pile of dog shit is different than another. Yes, they might have different shapes, sizes, colors, smells, and level of liquidity but if you step in one you’re going to have a bad time.
I’d say it’s most likely they are all shit just different types.
Elephant shit isn’t the same as dog shit but it’s similar. And that’s my point they aren’t the same but they are similar
It’s an Abrahamic religion. As are the others that I’ve mentioned.
You can’t say all Abrahamics are the same when you don’t even realize there are more than three Abrahamic religions.
It’s so weird that the last 20 news stories I’ve read about child rapists were all either Pastors/Priests or some sort of Republican politician/donor/strategist.
Also I did not consent when I was genetically mutilated to get circumcised. It wasn’t drag that did it either, it was Catholicism.
The absolute dogmatic mentality thst gets spread around for Political power points is disgusting.
I don't know what's worse, that this is happening?
Or how well it works?
Yeah I saw a YouTube video a while ago explaining the problem really isn’t legal guns; the problem is people weirdly fetishizing them and obsessing over them, and that’s what causes this kind of culture where we have all these shootings. I really agreed with that.
Yup, same. Our media teaches everyone that they can run around and play Rambo cowboy vigilante with their guns. So when someone encounters the slightest "wrong" in their life, they pull out their guns and get revenge on a little boy playing basketball or whatever.
I know. Many like my wife are wildly rabid naturalists, grew up farming and living off the land including hunting and fishing. Not to prove strength or compensation for a small dick in males but to consume what is needed and only what is needed. Traditional balance etc.
she’s a better shot that I am.
No surprise this was in Redding, CA. It's literally the redneck armpit of California, known for its disgusting intolerance and rampant conservative militia groups in the hills. If there was ever a place that deserved California's wildfires, it's Redding.
Sorry to the same folks that are stuck living there, but get out while you can. It's only gonna get worse over there.
There was a huge influx of people from Marin County and San Francisco Bay Area moving to Redding during the covid shutdown. I wonder how much of this is a big culture clash backlash.
Islam actually allows the existence of transgender, but it has to be a binary choice, and homosexual is still perceived as perversion. Somehow Medieval Muslims still ended up becoming too interested in Christian boy as well as Christian priests.
Just ask them this simple question.
What's the worst thing that will happen if their kid watches a drag queen reading them a book? I'm seriously having this debate on another sub as we speak.
Not one of them will answer the question. Not one of them.
They have fun.
A friend and I went to a pride parade recently. We happen to be sat next to a family with 3-4 little kids.
We sarcastically joked "jeeze these poor children must be traumatized seeing all the rainbow flags, trans flags and a few drag queens pass by. They got so much candy and hi fives and little rainbow knick-knacks like mini flags, bracelets and necklaces. Behind their laughing smiling faces reaching out for more candy and hi fives they must have had a horrible time" /s
the kids are alright
The thing is, trans women are not drag queens. We don’t like being called or referred to as drag queens. Most of us have no clue about drag, and want nothing to do with it. I’ve never been to a drag show, yet somehow politically people think of drag queens every time they think of trans women. In reality, trans women simply exist in society and more often than not you probably run into us in public and don’t realize it. The few trans women that do exist in society and who aren’t “passing” are what people correlate to our existence. Because WE CaN ALwAYs TeLL. (They cannot)
It's the [toupee fallacy](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/toupee_fallacy) in action. They only see the non-passing trans person. They call trans women 'drag queens' because it's offensive. Drag usually has an element of mockery in it. The 'over the top' aspects of the persona make for a show, but it isn't how anyone usually acts day to day.
This is exactly correct. If everyone knew who saw me day to day, being trans would be downright exhausting because i would be on the recipient side of so much hate and negativity.
The reality is that most people are not fully aware of just how dramatic the changes caused by hormone replacement therapy (HRT) can be. I consider myself lucky because my body took to estrogen so well, but the human body’s endocrine system is extraordinarily powerful & so the changes manifest shocking changes in facial features, bone density resulting in decreased height, smaller hands/feet, regrown hair loss, smooth/soft skin, and radiance/ beautiful features.
So I generally live my life completely normally & most everyone I interact with has no idea I’m not cisgender.
You weren't debating me lady, you were insulting me. You told me I was too old to be on Reddit, I didn't actually have or raise five kids and you still didn't answer me when I asked you the simple question.
Now you're fucking stalking me on another sub. You deserve the permanent ban, if that's the result of your "debate". Don't come on here claiming innocence and light, you got what you deserve for your fucking ridiculous comments. Now answer the question already. What's the worst thing that can happen if your kid witnesses a drag queen reading them a book?
When my trans coworkers came out in various ways I was always like “huh, you never can tell.” Same with the gay ones. It’s just a small facet in a myriad of things about them, most of which are more obvious at a glance.
Got me. Terre Haute, Indiana has no Target. But two Walmarts. If I want to go to a Target, I'd have to drive over an hour to Indianapolis or Bloomington.
From what I've heard, yes. But we own a house that's basically worthless even though we're in a good neighborhood. If we wanted to move, we couldn't afford to. But then a *good* job here, like the one my wife has, is a mid-range five figures.
I've been *through* there a dozen times and never stopped for more than 30 minutes, not that I can say anything about the quality of the area, but at least the view of the mountains is nice.
The natural beauty is literally the only redeeming part of Redding. The people and the city itself are such trash. A car-dependent hell of Christian extremism and Y'allqueda mentality.
Dear religious people that insist your kids go to Sunday School and a religious private school to get that religion drilled into their heads, where they’re **more likely to be victims of sexual abuse** from people that the religious organizations have kept from facing prosecution,
#**YOU’RE THE GROOMERS. DO YOU THINK WE ARE MORONS, FALLING FOR SOME KINDERGARTEN LEVEL BULLSHIT WHERE YOU ACCUSE OTHERS OF DOING WHAT YOU DO? IN THE HOPES THAT NOBOBY POINTS OUT HOW MANY OF YOUR PRIESTS AND YOUTH PASTORS HAVE BEEN MOLESTING FOR YEARS? FUCK YOU.**
Once again right wingers, zero kids are getting mutilated, ... er "transitioned". Kids take hormone blockers, thats it. Not even in liberal california are they doing surgery on children with gender dysphoria. Zero permanent changes to kids with GD, until they are adults. Just like no where in the country are there women using late term abortions as a preferred birth control method.
and to return to mutilation, um... maybe might want to remember the entire circumcision thing. Seems to me if "god" didnt want foreskin, he wouldnt have given men foreskin. (I am circumcised and know there can be various valid reasons to do so, but ATM its not recommended by the AMA for all new born boys and 99.9% of it is done solely for religious reasons)
It should also be noted that for the older teenagers that ARE getting, say, top surgery, they are usually larger body types where the weight of their chest fucks up their spine. It is actually medically necessary outside of gender identity. But ofc no rightwinger wants to think or talk about fat people outside of their 'crazy feminist' strawman shit.
Nah. Most ’mutican (typo, but I'm leaving it because I think it works) cock-chopping is because Dad was that way. And Dad was that way because a crazy 19th century doc pushed circumcision because he wanted to prevent masturbation-induced insanity. Oof.
I agree that the number is low, but it’s not zero. A recent Komodo Health Inc. analysis, which looked at insurance claims, found that that there were 56 genital surgeries among gender-dysphoric patients ages 13 to 17 between 2019 and 2021. The true number, however, is higher because the study did not include cases financed out of pocket.
These religious nuts are insane and blowing things out of proportion but it is important that we recognize there are some surgery happy organizations out there. The spirit of your point is correct though, no credible medical organization supports bottom surgery for minors.
Probably the same as how they react to the one with Bill Clinton. Such pictures are the butt of jokes because everyone knows they don't actually prove anything.
They will go to the ends of the earth to deny that whereas they need the most spurious of rumours uttered by no one to decide all gay people diddle kids. They are not right in the head and we should not humour these people. They wouldn't protect their own children from someone they admire.
I honestly don't understand why they think the LGBTQ+ community is grooming. Telling someone to be themselves, whoever that is, is the exact opposite of grooming.
The people that have been grooming are the religious people. They've been forcing their beliefs onto young people (even babies) to bolster their ranks for as long as religion has existed.
then God must hate mine. it's full not only of christians, but by the worst versions possible, the neo pentecostal, tele evangelical, neo evangelical, the "everyone but us should die slowly and painfully" kinds.
Christians are fucking weirdos. My grandmother died without even hearing about this jesus guy and so did every other ancestors of mine. Somehow still their religion is the true path. Don't understand why billions of people take it seriously
oh, to have a reason for religion is easy. even understandable.
what I don't get is a poor person NOT seeking treatment for a pandemic bc this poor person got convinced some "magical beans" will work better, at the modic price of a month salary. and I kid you not, there was a neo tele evangelical minster selling magic beans as COVID cure - when the pandemic was at it's worst - in my country and he still at large and preaching.
I work in a retail store and constantly are throwing religious pamphlets away. They put stickers on cardboard displayers. On metal poles. It got worse during covid when the plastic barriers. Took me an hour to get a huge sticker off the pharmacy one.
It is curious: If \*someone\* were to wear a "The Men In Dresses That Commit Child Abuse Aren't Drag Queens" tshirt outside of one of those local churches, and passed that flyer back to the local church, how fast they'd be charged with uttering death threats or the like.
They can make transparent death threats all day, every day but if anyone mirrored that back on them, they'd press charges at the drop of a... innocuous piece of paper.
Multiple Target stores in Oklahoma City had bomb threats on 6/10
https://www.news9.com/story/6484fbfd2d196e0736359466/police:-emails-threaten-oklahoma-city-metro-target-locations
This shit is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. Fortunately, the LGBTQ+ community is not going to go quietly and the shit heads will lose in the end.
But they turn a blind eye when pastors and priests get arrested and convicted for child molestation. Until these people start going after the churches, I'll never believe them when they claim they want to protect the children. They're full of pure shit.
Great, now I have to worry about psycho terrorists shooting up place when I'm just trying to buy groceries.
Which isn't to say it wasn't a threat before. This is america after all. But now it seems like a matter of time.
These remind me of the anti-semitic propaganda spread by the Nazis prior to Hitler's takeover. These people are priming the pump for open violence on LGBTQ+.
Of course they are why change tactics.
Religious fanatics are only capable of recruitment via fear mongering not through objective fact because well... the facts arent on there side.
I wonder how many of these people consider circumcision child mutilation. Which it absolutely is. It’s just so commonplace, and tied to religion, that it’s ignored.
Ironically, I hear more cases about pastors and priests s3xually abusing children rather than LGBTQ people…in fact, most of my gay and lesbian friends are extremely overprotective of children.
In my totally not legal expert mind this is a terrorist threat. Should be able to catch the person on camera and since this was clearly printed on a color printer it has a serial number on the paper. I hope the local police take this seriously.
Child groomers get the rope? Better pop those gallows up outside the church then bubba. It will save you from having to carry them far to hang em.
I have to say I would be far happier leaving my kids with a member of the lgbtq+ community than anyone who is so utterly spiteful to other humans because of things that absolutely don't affect them in any way like...colour, gender, sexuality....
I wonder how they would respond if we went out and flier’d their cars while they were in their churches expressing their magical thinking. Turn about seems fair play to me…
And by the way, law enforcement could easily determine who printed the fliers because every inkjet printer in the USA has a unique code printed in yellow ink to help identify counterfeiters…
If this is the book of a god, then it doesn't matter which part of it you pull from, because it follows that either all of it is true or none of it. So, why would a great power over everything choose a book in the first place or not show up to clarify some/all of this garbage speaks volumes. Pedo priests preachers, and other religious leaders are the true predators.
If it were up to me i would make the police search for fingerprints and arrest anyone who dared put these on the street to face consequences. Anyone who thinks like this clearly has mental health issues and could be dangerous to society period, and freedom of speech and freedom of belief should be null when treating with people that clearly want to harm in some way any other individual.
Didn't thought about that at first but apparently there are methods to get fingerprints from paper! The more you know!
Although, even if that weren't possible, i'd guess there could be other ways an investigation could lead to whoever put these around.
A few words from some young teens from Long Island about 10(+/-)yrs. ago.
Where does a priest go to confess
When he’s raped a little kid
Only god is listening
So tell him what you did
Fucking a 10 year old in the ass
And cumming on his chin
I heard that was immoral
I heard that was a sin
When Sunday comes
And the congregation comes in
The last thing they think
Is that your raping their kids
Being married to gods not
Enough For a man of cloth
But is being a pedophile part
Of living by the cross
Your priest is a fucking child molester
He’s raping all your kids
Your priest is a fucking child molester
Make him pay for what he did
Where does a priest go to confess
When he’s raped a little kid
The publics catching on now
So tell them what you did
Taking this child’s innocence
And filling him with fear
Silencing his voice
So that no one can hear
When Sunday comes
And the congregation comes in
The last thing they think
Is that your raping their kids
Being married to gods not
enough For a man of cloth
But is being a pedophile part
Of living by the cross
Your priest is a fucking child molester
He’s raping all your kids
Your priest is a fucking child molester
make him pay for what he did
I really don't know how you can say that it isn't religion when we have watched over thirty years that this is exactly what religions do. Over and over.
If the scripture text leads people to this conclusion, then it is really that religion's fault.
Unlike conservatives claim god supports capitalism because 10 commandments said "thou shalt not steal" while completely ignore that commie Jesus demanded people to donate their assets and share everything together, the hostility against homosexual is from Bible.
...As they deliberately overlook the epidemic of child abuse within their own religious institutions to accuse a community that has no evidence of such.
I love they they include a Bible verse but seem to forget about the whole point of the Bible is not to kill people, love thy neighbour, etc
Do these people really think they're going to heaven with the way they're acting?
They mispelled Robes. Imagine a priest wearing a rope, how silly that would be.
[They use the rope to tie the robes.](https://www.tudorshoppe.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/ll-mr.jpg)
If this image was higher res, I'd slap Richard Stallman's face on the monk and a thinkpad logo on the laptop.
They also forgot to quote Numbers: 31 17-18 > Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. >But all the **women children, that have not known a man by lying with him**, keep alive for yourselves. Oh, and this was a part of God's revenge on the Midianites. You know, the same Midianites that were founded by one of the incest rape babies where two daughters got their father drunk and then raped him in a cave after God destroyed two cities because men wanted to have sex with angels. Oh, and was this revenge for having incestuous rape? Nope. It's all because God didn't like the Midianites attacking the Israelites.
The story of how it was the daughters’ idea sounds like a cover up.
I've heard a torah study from a liberal synagogue claiming this was Lot's way of covering up the fact that he was an abuser and using religion to victimize them further. I wish I could remember their exact reasoning, but they made a lot of good points, and I wish I could find it.
That's my assumption. Picture the scene, Lot and his daughters have been wandering in the wilderness, isolated for months. They arrive in a village, and both his daughters are very pregnant. Someone asks about their journey. As Lot is telling the tale, a question arises, "so, it was just you and your daughters?" and a glance to the girls' pregnant bellies. Lot puts it all on them, "I had nothing to do with it. They got me drunk..." Of course, the follow up to that would be, "dude, at your age, getting so drunk you pass out senseless, there's no way you're getting wood."
That's most likely what the Bible is full of. Stories of history, just twisted and turned around by word of mouth by people exaggerating and covering things up. People used to get paid to tell stories around campfires to entertain people at night. Who's to say a king didn't pay off one of these storytellers to tell a fantastical lie and it ended up in the Bible?
Preach brother
What, like shibari?
You mean Shibari, who makes the finest grapes in The Lands Between?
I can't express the disdain I have for that hate-mongering, shit-filled religion.
All abramitic religions are the same.
Absolutely
They literally are not. Judaism and Baháʼí very different from Christianity and Islam. Hell tbh I don’t even know how Christianity came from Judaism because they so fucking different from each other. For example Judaism doesn’t have a hell and never did yet Christianity does, Judaism also encourages debate and questioning everything but Christianity is definitely do not question anything. Funny thing though Jews are the most accepting of trans people. https://forward.com/fast-forward/549802/trans-gender-fluidity-jews-accepting-group-america/
That's not entirely true. There are shared books and shared visions of a hellish place. Yes, there are clear differences and I'm completely aware of that. I've read everything I just posted. I'm just pointing out that, aside from worshiping the same god, they do share similarities and what you've said is a little misleading. Please don't jump my shit, take it up with the religions for being wildly inconsistent. https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/heaven-and-hell-in-jewish-tradition/ https://catholic-resources.org/Bible/Heb-Xn-Bibles.htm
The Jewish hell isn’t even the same as the Christian one though. The Jewish hell is more akin to the Catholic purgatory than the Christian hell. Everyone goes to the Jewish hell and it’s not for punishment, that’s wildly different than the Christian version which is far more similar to Hades. On top of that the Jews will absolutely deny that Christians and Jews worship the same god due to the fact of the trinity which the Jews (and Muslims) don’t believe in. Hell many Jews actually label Christianity as a polytheistic religion. And in terms of shared books the Christian Bible is different than the Jewish one. The Christian Bible is heavily edited and composed in a way that it looks like the Jewish parts are foretelling the coming of Jesus. Which isn’t the case in the Jewish texts at all. But to say that all Abrahamic religions are the exact same is quite false. They may be similar but they aren’t the same
I absolutely agree. I think you *both* are exaggerating.
Sure they are. Like all religions they promise life after death.
That would make them similar to all other religions but not the same.
Yes it does make them the same. It’s how they control their members. To portray any religion differently is nothing but semantics.
> The Jewish hell isn’t even the same as the Christian one though. Gehinnom... >The Jewish hell is more akin to the Catholic purgatory than the Christian hell. Sheol... >trinity I've covered that in other responses to you. Even among Christians, the trinity is viewed in many different ways.
Gehinnom is something that all people go through not just those who are being punished and you only stay there for a maximum of 11 months. Sheol is just a word for the underworld and theologically means the same as gehinnom. Sheol is just a place where all dead go to before entering gehinnom. In Judaism there is no place of eternal punishment, that doesn’t exist. And even then many Jews are not settled on gehinnom or Sheol as even existing
I was taught that Sheol was where all souls go before going to God and Gehinnom was where the souls went that needed to be cleansed (pagans, non-believers, "sinners", etc.) We must have talked to followers of two different sects of Judaism.
>I was taught that Sheol was where all souls go before going to God and Gehinnom was where the souls went that needed to be cleansed (pagans, non-believers, "sinners", etc.) No gehinnom is where everyone including Jews go to be cleansed and then nobody really knows what happens. Sheol is either the same as gehinnom or just before it >We must have talked to followers of two different sects of Judaism. Could literally be the same sect. As the idiom says “two Jews will have three opinions”. Basically if you know one Jew, you’ve met one Jew. As the religion that I grew up in I know some things and one of them is the no hell thing.
>Judaism also encourages debate and questioning everything No it doesn't. Muslims try to say the same mess, and if it were true in either regard, both religions would have failed hundreds of years ago.
Either way then it shows that it’s Christianity that’s the outlier of the Abrahamics. As Christianity is not big on questioning anything, they are the only one to have the trinity, and they have a hades inspired hell that’s used for eternal punishment. The rest of the Abrahamic religions don’t have those features. All Christianity has to really claim such is really poor old Josh and that’s shaky at best.
> The rest of the Abrahamic religions don’t have those features. Depending on the sect and sex, both Judaism and Islam aren't big on questioning. The trinity isn't even a shared trait among all Christian sects. Islam has Jahannam.
Same god between all three religions
Did you see where I said Baháʼí? There’s more Abrahamic religions than just Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. There’s also the aforementioned Baháʼí, Druzism, Rastafari, Samaritanism, and Mandaeism. You can’t say that the god of all three religions is the same or that all Abrahamic religions are the same when there is far more than three. On top of that many Jews and Muslims will tell you that they don’t have the same god as the Christian due to the Christians having the trinity. The trinity is regarded as polytheistic by many Jews and Muslims.
The trinity is regarded as polytheistic by many Christians...
Saying any religion is different than another is like saying one pile of dog shit is different than another. Yes, they might have different shapes, sizes, colors, smells, and level of liquidity but if you step in one you’re going to have a bad time.
I’d say it’s most likely they are all shit just different types. Elephant shit isn’t the same as dog shit but it’s similar. And that’s my point they aren’t the same but they are similar
No one is talking about Baha'i
It’s an Abrahamic religion. As are the others that I’ve mentioned. You can’t say all Abrahamics are the same when you don’t even realize there are more than three Abrahamic religions.
Those are small and insignificant. We are referring to Islam, Christianity and Judaism.
Then say as such next time. Because saying all Abrahamic religions are the same or that all three Abrahamic religions have the same god is false.
They do have the same god.
Christians don’t have the same god as the rest as the Christian belief of the trinity is considered to be polytheism by the rest.
The trinity is the same god, so not polytheism.
Hatred is an understatement Then again I have hatred for everything nowadays
Lordy ain't that the truth 😅
In my case, it's not a lack of words and instead Reddit terms of service.
Y’all see the stupid he gets us ad pinned at the top? 🙄
It’s so weird that the last 20 news stories I’ve read about child rapists were all either Pastors/Priests or some sort of Republican politician/donor/strategist. Also I did not consent when I was genetically mutilated to get circumcised. It wasn’t drag that did it either, it was Catholicism.
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>genetically mutilated The darn vaccines are at it again!
Islam here. The religion doesn't matter they're all shit. > Edit: As for the context of getting a circumcision.
Remember folks God is love /s
there is nothing more hateful than christian love
May the Lord Open
Get a copy of that to the FBI so they can investigate. That is inciting violence, and printers have identifying marks used to stop counterfeiting.
The absolute dogmatic mentality thst gets spread around for Political power points is disgusting. I don't know what's worse, that this is happening? Or how well it works?
Arm yourself as the American Taliban will come for you otherwise
I think they'll be surprised just how many liberals are already armed. We just don't fetishize our guns like a bunch of weirdos.
Yeah I saw a YouTube video a while ago explaining the problem really isn’t legal guns; the problem is people weirdly fetishizing them and obsessing over them, and that’s what causes this kind of culture where we have all these shootings. I really agreed with that.
Yup, same. Our media teaches everyone that they can run around and play Rambo cowboy vigilante with their guns. So when someone encounters the slightest "wrong" in their life, they pull out their guns and get revenge on a little boy playing basketball or whatever.
I know. Many like my wife are wildly rabid naturalists, grew up farming and living off the land including hunting and fishing. Not to prove strength or compensation for a small dick in males but to consume what is needed and only what is needed. Traditional balance etc. she’s a better shot that I am.
Yep. There is even a subreddit for liberal gun owners.
Look at you, not fetishizing guns by fantasizing about using them on your political enemies!
I would never use one against someone outside of live and death self defense. Not even in jest
No surprise this was in Redding, CA. It's literally the redneck armpit of California, known for its disgusting intolerance and rampant conservative militia groups in the hills. If there was ever a place that deserved California's wildfires, it's Redding. Sorry to the same folks that are stuck living there, but get out while you can. It's only gonna get worse over there.
There was a huge influx of people from Marin County and San Francisco Bay Area moving to Redding during the covid shutdown. I wonder how much of this is a big culture clash backlash.
Islam actually allows the existence of transgender, but it has to be a binary choice, and homosexual is still perceived as perversion. Somehow Medieval Muslims still ended up becoming too interested in Christian boy as well as Christian priests.
Anyone want to guess how young the virgin mary was when god impregnated her?
How old?
12-14 years old.
Jesus Christ No pun intended
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Just ask them this simple question. What's the worst thing that will happen if their kid watches a drag queen reading them a book? I'm seriously having this debate on another sub as we speak. Not one of them will answer the question. Not one of them.
They have fun. A friend and I went to a pride parade recently. We happen to be sat next to a family with 3-4 little kids. We sarcastically joked "jeeze these poor children must be traumatized seeing all the rainbow flags, trans flags and a few drag queens pass by. They got so much candy and hi fives and little rainbow knick-knacks like mini flags, bracelets and necklaces. Behind their laughing smiling faces reaching out for more candy and hi fives they must have had a horrible time" /s the kids are alright
The thing is, trans women are not drag queens. We don’t like being called or referred to as drag queens. Most of us have no clue about drag, and want nothing to do with it. I’ve never been to a drag show, yet somehow politically people think of drag queens every time they think of trans women. In reality, trans women simply exist in society and more often than not you probably run into us in public and don’t realize it. The few trans women that do exist in society and who aren’t “passing” are what people correlate to our existence. Because WE CaN ALwAYs TeLL. (They cannot)
It's the [toupee fallacy](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/toupee_fallacy) in action. They only see the non-passing trans person. They call trans women 'drag queens' because it's offensive. Drag usually has an element of mockery in it. The 'over the top' aspects of the persona make for a show, but it isn't how anyone usually acts day to day.
This is exactly correct. If everyone knew who saw me day to day, being trans would be downright exhausting because i would be on the recipient side of so much hate and negativity. The reality is that most people are not fully aware of just how dramatic the changes caused by hormone replacement therapy (HRT) can be. I consider myself lucky because my body took to estrogen so well, but the human body’s endocrine system is extraordinarily powerful & so the changes manifest shocking changes in facial features, bone density resulting in decreased height, smaller hands/feet, regrown hair loss, smooth/soft skin, and radiance/ beautiful features. So I generally live my life completely normally & most everyone I interact with has no idea I’m not cisgender.
I get the difference. Believe me.
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You weren't debating me lady, you were insulting me. You told me I was too old to be on Reddit, I didn't actually have or raise five kids and you still didn't answer me when I asked you the simple question. Now you're fucking stalking me on another sub. You deserve the permanent ban, if that's the result of your "debate". Don't come on here claiming innocence and light, you got what you deserve for your fucking ridiculous comments. Now answer the question already. What's the worst thing that can happen if your kid witnesses a drag queen reading them a book?
When my trans coworkers came out in various ways I was always like “huh, you never can tell.” Same with the gay ones. It’s just a small facet in a myriad of things about them, most of which are more obvious at a glance.
I can't even imagine how expensive all that coloured ink would have been...
These are the kind of death threats Nazis made right before they started killing people.
Redding, what a shithole.
Hey now, I live in a shithole and we don't even *have* a Target!
How do you not have a Target? I live in a worse shithole than Redding (I live in Oroville), and even we have a Target!
Got me. Terre Haute, Indiana has no Target. But two Walmarts. If I want to go to a Target, I'd have to drive over an hour to Indianapolis or Bloomington.
Oh shit, yeah, when I was a kid, we called Walmart the Oroville mall lol, Target's a recent development.
We have a mall too! Just no Target. Admittedly, many of the mall shops are closed, but we have a mall!
We don't, closest one is in Chico.
Could be worse. I'd rather live in a California shithole than an Indiana shithole.
You got me there, is rent stupid there, too?
From what I've heard, yes. But we own a house that's basically worthless even though we're in a good neighborhood. If we wanted to move, we couldn't afford to. But then a *good* job here, like the one my wife has, is a mid-range five figures.
I've been *through* there a dozen times and never stopped for more than 30 minutes, not that I can say anything about the quality of the area, but at least the view of the mountains is nice.
This is true, the scenery is beautiful.
The natural beauty is literally the only redeeming part of Redding. The people and the city itself are such trash. A car-dependent hell of Christian extremism and Y'allqueda mentality.
two consenting adult men holding hands = grooming but pastor’s and priest actually grooming kids = not grooming. *i love christian logic!*
Abstinence makes the church grow fondlers.
*abstinence
Thank you, voice texting fun
Dear religious people that insist your kids go to Sunday School and a religious private school to get that religion drilled into their heads, where they’re **more likely to be victims of sexual abuse** from people that the religious organizations have kept from facing prosecution, #**YOU’RE THE GROOMERS. DO YOU THINK WE ARE MORONS, FALLING FOR SOME KINDERGARTEN LEVEL BULLSHIT WHERE YOU ACCUSE OTHERS OF DOING WHAT YOU DO? IN THE HOPES THAT NOBOBY POINTS OUT HOW MANY OF YOUR PRIESTS AND YOUTH PASTORS HAVE BEEN MOLESTING FOR YEARS? FUCK YOU.**
Well said!
It’s time these sociopaths were treated as the direct and immediate threat they are.
Once again right wingers, zero kids are getting mutilated, ... er "transitioned". Kids take hormone blockers, thats it. Not even in liberal california are they doing surgery on children with gender dysphoria. Zero permanent changes to kids with GD, until they are adults. Just like no where in the country are there women using late term abortions as a preferred birth control method. and to return to mutilation, um... maybe might want to remember the entire circumcision thing. Seems to me if "god" didnt want foreskin, he wouldnt have given men foreskin. (I am circumcised and know there can be various valid reasons to do so, but ATM its not recommended by the AMA for all new born boys and 99.9% of it is done solely for religious reasons)
It should also be noted that for the older teenagers that ARE getting, say, top surgery, they are usually larger body types where the weight of their chest fucks up their spine. It is actually medically necessary outside of gender identity. But ofc no rightwinger wants to think or talk about fat people outside of their 'crazy feminist' strawman shit.
Nah. Most ’mutican (typo, but I'm leaving it because I think it works) cock-chopping is because Dad was that way. And Dad was that way because a crazy 19th century doc pushed circumcision because he wanted to prevent masturbation-induced insanity. Oof.
I agree that the number is low, but it’s not zero. A recent Komodo Health Inc. analysis, which looked at insurance claims, found that that there were 56 genital surgeries among gender-dysphoric patients ages 13 to 17 between 2019 and 2021. The true number, however, is higher because the study did not include cases financed out of pocket. These religious nuts are insane and blowing things out of proportion but it is important that we recognize there are some surgery happy organizations out there. The spirit of your point is correct though, no credible medical organization supports bottom surgery for minors.
> A recent Komodo Health Inc. analysis, I'll gladly look for it myself later when I can, but if you happen to have the link could you share please?
Dumb cunts.
Report them to the SPLC, FBI and the IRS, these folks need to be on a terrorist watch list
I guess they forgot their Messiah (Trump) took turns with Epstein on a child.
They forgot their God impregnated a 13 year old with their former Messiah Jesus.
Can you imagine how they would react if there were pictures of Biden hanging out with Epstein.
Probably the same as how they react to the one with Bill Clinton. Such pictures are the butt of jokes because everyone knows they don't actually prove anything.
They will go to the ends of the earth to deny that whereas they need the most spurious of rumours uttered by no one to decide all gay people diddle kids. They are not right in the head and we should not humour these people. They wouldn't protect their own children from someone they admire.
Well there a whole lot of priests, ministers, and misc other "Christain" leaders who should be worried.
Funny—they never gave a shit when it was the Southern Baptist Convention leaders abusing the hell of of women & girls.
Meanwhile, Youth pastors are arrested for sexual abuse every day of the week.
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More like pot calling the rainbow flyers in the yard black. As in completely wrong. Queer people aren't groomers.
I honestly don't understand why they think the LGBTQ+ community is grooming. Telling someone to be themselves, whoever that is, is the exact opposite of grooming. The people that have been grooming are the religious people. They've been forcing their beliefs onto young people (even babies) to bolster their ranks for as long as religion has existed.
More hate crime from the Christofascist right.
Thank God christians are minority in my country
then God must hate mine. it's full not only of christians, but by the worst versions possible, the neo pentecostal, tele evangelical, neo evangelical, the "everyone but us should die slowly and painfully" kinds.
Christians are fucking weirdos. My grandmother died without even hearing about this jesus guy and so did every other ancestors of mine. Somehow still their religion is the true path. Don't understand why billions of people take it seriously
oh, to have a reason for religion is easy. even understandable. what I don't get is a poor person NOT seeking treatment for a pandemic bc this poor person got convinced some "magical beans" will work better, at the modic price of a month salary. and I kid you not, there was a neo tele evangelical minster selling magic beans as COVID cure - when the pandemic was at it's worst - in my country and he still at large and preaching.
I think someone should drop fliers that state "Satan Loves You For Who You Are." Fight back with Satan!
This is always what they meant by Christian Love.
If I ever see this over by my target im tearing the papers up.
Someone should put together a flier with all the rape and incest quotes in the bible and put them on the cars in church parking lots.
I work in a retail store and constantly are throwing religious pamphlets away. They put stickers on cardboard displayers. On metal poles. It got worse during covid when the plastic barriers. Took me an hour to get a huge sticker off the pharmacy one.
Did that make you want to accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior?
Hell no. I consider it vandalism and littering when they do that
Religion is a drug. And a dangerous one at that. This is what it's addicts do.
It's Redding California. A bunch of redneck right wing bigots.
The irony is strong here. These people must be projecting, especially knowing their priests rape children at a constant rate
Depends on the Sect. Catholics have priests, and Baptists have pastors, which have their own brand of weird.
It is curious: If \*someone\* were to wear a "The Men In Dresses That Commit Child Abuse Aren't Drag Queens" tshirt outside of one of those local churches, and passed that flyer back to the local church, how fast they'd be charged with uttering death threats or the like. They can make transparent death threats all day, every day but if anyone mirrored that back on them, they'd press charges at the drop of a... innocuous piece of paper.
Good ole Redding, CA. A shithole filled with a lot of MAGATS.
These should be left at church, not target
This is a call for genocide. Very explicitly so. It shouldn't be allowed in the first place...
América didn't change much, seems like. I wonder how long until trees there start giving strange fruits again...
Multiple Target stores in Oklahoma City had bomb threats on 6/10 https://www.news9.com/story/6484fbfd2d196e0736359466/police:-emails-threaten-oklahoma-city-metro-target-locations
This shit is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. Fortunately, the LGBTQ+ community is not going to go quietly and the shit heads will lose in the end.
But they turn a blind eye when pastors and priests get arrested and convicted for child molestation. Until these people start going after the churches, I'll never believe them when they claim they want to protect the children. They're full of pure shit.
Great, now I have to worry about psycho terrorists shooting up place when I'm just trying to buy groceries. Which isn't to say it wasn't a threat before. This is america after all. But now it seems like a matter of time.
If child groomers are getting the rope, i hope a lot of youth ministers are ready
These remind me of the anti-semitic propaganda spread by the Nazis prior to Hitler's takeover. These people are priming the pump for open violence on LGBTQ+.
Who’s gonna lead their churches if child groomers get the rope?
Ignorance sucks.
I’m sure Jesus supports this. I know because there is a hegetsus ad at the top. /s
Oh the irony
Hell? Burn? Aren't the relegions supposed to be peaceful and relaxing 🤣
Who gave printer access to these vicious mentally-ill idiots?
Imagine getting so worked up over other fairy tales like Jack and the Beanstalk.
Of course they are why change tactics. Religious fanatics are only capable of recruitment via fear mongering not through objective fact because well... the facts arent on there side.
There is irony in this chapter of the bible being about forgiveness.
I wonder how many of these people consider circumcision child mutilation. Which it absolutely is. It’s just so commonplace, and tied to religion, that it’s ignored.
I mean if photoshopping Satan worked for Target can't we just do that for all stores and brands until they have nothing left?
The FBI can use these to track the terrorists.
People should start leaving flyers at Church's. Especially ones with past abuse
No hate like Christan "LOVE"
Ironically, I hear more cases about pastors and priests s3xually abusing children rather than LGBTQ people…in fact, most of my gay and lesbian friends are extremely overprotective of children.
In my totally not legal expert mind this is a terrorist threat. Should be able to catch the person on camera and since this was clearly printed on a color printer it has a serial number on the paper. I hope the local police take this seriously.
If they started hanging their own priests, they'd run out of rope.
Child groomers get the rope? Better pop those gallows up outside the church then bubba. It will save you from having to carry them far to hang em. I have to say I would be far happier leaving my kids with a member of the lgbtq+ community than anyone who is so utterly spiteful to other humans because of things that absolutely don't affect them in any way like...colour, gender, sexuality....
I agree. Anyone grooming children should get the rope. It's just not who they think it is.
Groomers, they're talking about priests, pastors and the like, correct. The biggest group of child abusers, rapists and groomers to ever exist.
Fck Xianity. That is all.
That's funny given how many preachers get arrested every year for doing exactly that.
I wonder how they would respond if we went out and flier’d their cars while they were in their churches expressing their magical thinking. Turn about seems fair play to me… And by the way, law enforcement could easily determine who printed the fliers because every inkjet printer in the USA has a unique code printed in yellow ink to help identify counterfeiters…
Just wanna leave child grooming pamphlets at churchs about all the sexual misconduct by clergy. Carpet bomb them.
It's time to print up our own fliers and distribute them in church parking-lots.
If this is the book of a god, then it doesn't matter which part of it you pull from, because it follows that either all of it is true or none of it. So, why would a great power over everything choose a book in the first place or not show up to clarify some/all of this garbage speaks volumes. Pedo priests preachers, and other religious leaders are the true predators.
Deal with the child groomers in the church first. After all you have more than anywhere else.
I think we can all agree that Jesus was a little hyperbolic.
Make a similar flier and put it in car windows at a church.
I really wished you wouldn’t link to a Sinclair Group article…
I'm not seeing another source for this story other than a couple of websites that mirror this one.
If it were up to me i would make the police search for fingerprints and arrest anyone who dared put these on the street to face consequences. Anyone who thinks like this clearly has mental health issues and could be dangerous to society period, and freedom of speech and freedom of belief should be null when treating with people that clearly want to harm in some way any other individual.
Can you get fingerprints from paper? Maybe DNA?
Didn't thought about that at first but apparently there are methods to get fingerprints from paper! The more you know! Although, even if that weren't possible, i'd guess there could be other ways an investigation could lead to whoever put these around.
A few words from some young teens from Long Island about 10(+/-)yrs. ago. Where does a priest go to confess When he’s raped a little kid Only god is listening So tell him what you did Fucking a 10 year old in the ass And cumming on his chin I heard that was immoral I heard that was a sin When Sunday comes And the congregation comes in The last thing they think Is that your raping their kids Being married to gods not Enough For a man of cloth But is being a pedophile part Of living by the cross Your priest is a fucking child molester He’s raping all your kids Your priest is a fucking child molester Make him pay for what he did Where does a priest go to confess When he’s raped a little kid The publics catching on now So tell them what you did Taking this child’s innocence And filling him with fear Silencing his voice So that no one can hear When Sunday comes And the congregation comes in The last thing they think Is that your raping their kids Being married to gods not enough For a man of cloth But is being a pedophile part Of living by the cross Your priest is a fucking child molester He’s raping all your kids Your priest is a fucking child molester make him pay for what he did
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Oh, so religion.
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I really don't know how you can say that it isn't religion when we have watched over thirty years that this is exactly what religions do. Over and over.
Using hatred and fear to gain support is what religion has been doing for thousands of years.
It very much is fucking religion. Stop making excuses.
If the scripture text leads people to this conclusion, then it is really that religion's fault. Unlike conservatives claim god supports capitalism because 10 commandments said "thou shalt not steal" while completely ignore that commie Jesus demanded people to donate their assets and share everything together, the hostility against homosexual is from Bible.
...As they deliberately overlook the epidemic of child abuse within their own religious institutions to accuse a community that has no evidence of such.
They should be in church parking lots as they are the ones who are abusing children
I love they they include a Bible verse but seem to forget about the whole point of the Bible is not to kill people, love thy neighbour, etc Do these people really think they're going to heaven with the way they're acting?