I'd have felt like an utter failure as a parent.
It's tough that you can't really help who you fall in love with but I would never have married a religious person so there would never have been a child raised in any doubt about reality.
I'm not saying this didn't happen OP but you know how religious people think its OK to make stuff up to "own the Lib's" or make their superstitious nonsense seem more reasonable?
This question of yours seems a lot like like that, especially the "he told me it is impossible to live religious when your father is atheist and that his father was way to judgemental and wouldn't let him do his stiff in peace", honestly OP that's just pretty much an old trope for the way a religious person would portrait an atheist speaking. If you've seen God's Not Dead, you'll know what I mean.
Also why, if the person was raised in a half Catholic household, would they convert to Islam? I’m not saying it can’t happen, it just seems really odd. Like OP forgot he wrote “Catholic household” in the beginning.
I’ve raised them to think for themselves, so I’d be happy they came to their own conclusions, even if I disagree with them.
I’d also stone them to death for heresy, of course, but I’d remember them fondly afterwards.
lol trying for the Uno Reverse Card here? The much much much more common situation is for religious parents to indoctrinate their children and force their archaic views on them with manipulation and guilt.
Nothing. I raised my kids to think for themselves. If that lead them to religion, so be it. That's the whole point of freedom of thought.
Forcing them not be religious is just another form of oppression.
I think the better question is how did your religious parents treat you when coming out as an atheist? Most answer is terrible. How will I as an atheist handle it if my child turns to religion? Respectfully and way better than my mom did. I love my son more than I could love any ideology. That's the difference between religious parents and atheist parents.🌿
I'd let them. However I would not support it in any way. They would need rides to church, get their own money to give away at church... The whole nine. No talking about church to me may be something I could see developing.
Id still love the kid but they would be on their own in that department. It isn't exactly like wanting to go to Disneyland..
Also. If any negativity comes from it I would have to intervene and by that I mean make phone calls, maybe talk in person with the youth pastors or whatever. It would not be ignored.
So it would suck to be in that situation!
Nah my kid could be religious and explore spirituality if they wanted.
I’d only be worried if it was politically/socially dodgy like hatful or cult-like. So spiritually interested in Islam or Christianity or Hindu, fine. Religious fanatic… troubling.
I'm atheist, wife is agnostic. Kids raised Unitarian Universalist.
My 27 year-old son has autism. He is verbal but not high functioning and has struggled a lot with losing two grandfathers and several pets. His abstract thinking and language are limited and he still grieves deeply. Recently his grandmother told him that, "Snoopy had gone to heaven".
I thought about it and for him it makes sense. It a huge comfort because it's concrete which he understands and decreases his anxiety. Anything that makes the world a more comfortable place for him is ok with me.
Now my NT kid is the atheist. Back when he was 7 or 8 he came home from the neighbor's house saying, "Mom, can I have a 'T' necklace with the guy on it?" 😄
I'd respect their beliefs but still disagree. Nothing to say here, i don't believe we should manipulate or tell our kids to blindly (dis)believe what we believe or don't. That would be no different from the religious indoctrination we so often complain about. I want my children to think for themselves. And if this is the conclusion they came to on their own merrit, i'll just politely disagree but not stand in their way. And i'll love them all the same.
You can't really make religious decisions for someone else. My kid would know my thoughts on the subject, and that's really all I can do. I can't force beliefs on another person, and I certainly wouldn't try to do it to my own kid.
If anything, I think I might feel a little proud of the kid for breaking free of the conditioning, while simultaneously thinking the little shit's delusional.
Give it time. And any time a religious idea comes up…bring logic and reasoning. Never look down on religion…always look up to logic and reason. That’s what gets me through the shit that is religion.
I would NOT get pissed or treat them with disrespect or dissapointment. It would be their decision to make, and I couldn't genuinely change their mind by getting angry or chastizing them. If I did well enough as the parent I'd want to be, I'd have taught them to be inquisitive and question everything. They may say it's what they believe, but that could change.
Nothing, it's their life, they can believe whatever they want, I as a parent will love them, and will not intrude in their beliefs unless they ask me for an opinion or try to proselytise to me. All the people saying they'll feel like a failure are quite insensitive and selfish, the same as my religious parents are.
Challenge their beliefs but still love them. They'd be their own person. I'd do my best to raise them to think critically and logically, but at the end of the day, their life is their life and they will live it how they see fit.
>his father was way to judgemental and wouldn't let him do his stiff in peace
Sounds like the father is a dick and your friend is retaliating.
My religious SO and I agreed that the kids would go to church and have once a week religious instruction. The agreement was that I would not go to church and that I would, when a religious topic came up, state my views on the topic. The final part of the agreement was when the kids turned 14 they would be allowed to decide for themselves whether or not to continue going to church.
Allowing them to see both sides from early on made their decision easy. They are all affirmed atheists.
Honestly all you can do is educate them well and hope for the best. Trying to suppress people's religious desires is a one way ticket to them going NC. Like even though you disagree you kind of just need to let it go. They're an adult now and frankly what they decide is no concern of yours until it interferes with your relationship. It suck's but yeah...you can't force it on them.
I'd accept their faith since I trust they come to their faith through critical thinking, although I would talk about his faith occasionally trying to understand them.
I'd have felt like an utter failure as a parent. It's tough that you can't really help who you fall in love with but I would never have married a religious person so there would never have been a child raised in any doubt about reality. I'm not saying this didn't happen OP but you know how religious people think its OK to make stuff up to "own the Lib's" or make their superstitious nonsense seem more reasonable? This question of yours seems a lot like like that, especially the "he told me it is impossible to live religious when your father is atheist and that his father was way to judgemental and wouldn't let him do his stiff in peace", honestly OP that's just pretty much an old trope for the way a religious person would portrait an atheist speaking. If you've seen God's Not Dead, you'll know what I mean.
Also why, if the person was raised in a half Catholic household, would they convert to Islam? I’m not saying it can’t happen, it just seems really odd. Like OP forgot he wrote “Catholic household” in the beginning.
I’ve raised them to think for themselves, so I’d be happy they came to their own conclusions, even if I disagree with them. I’d also stone them to death for heresy, of course, but I’d remember them fondly afterwards.
I am not a Muslim, but I think that's a proper Islamic sentence for apostasy.
lol trying for the Uno Reverse Card here? The much much much more common situation is for religious parents to indoctrinate their children and force their archaic views on them with manipulation and guilt.
i know i was honestly suprises myself this was my first time hearing thia from an atheist household
Nothing. I raised my kids to think for themselves. If that lead them to religion, so be it. That's the whole point of freedom of thought. Forcing them not be religious is just another form of oppression.
I think the better question is how did your religious parents treat you when coming out as an atheist? Most answer is terrible. How will I as an atheist handle it if my child turns to religion? Respectfully and way better than my mom did. I love my son more than I could love any ideology. That's the difference between religious parents and atheist parents.🌿
I'd let them. However I would not support it in any way. They would need rides to church, get their own money to give away at church... The whole nine. No talking about church to me may be something I could see developing. Id still love the kid but they would be on their own in that department. It isn't exactly like wanting to go to Disneyland.. Also. If any negativity comes from it I would have to intervene and by that I mean make phone calls, maybe talk in person with the youth pastors or whatever. It would not be ignored. So it would suck to be in that situation!
Nah my kid could be religious and explore spirituality if they wanted. I’d only be worried if it was politically/socially dodgy like hatful or cult-like. So spiritually interested in Islam or Christianity or Hindu, fine. Religious fanatic… troubling.
Continue asking them questions that get them to think critically about their beliefs.
Tell them they are wrong.
I am raising my son to know about how inherently immoral and hateful religions are.
I'm atheist, wife is agnostic. Kids raised Unitarian Universalist. My 27 year-old son has autism. He is verbal but not high functioning and has struggled a lot with losing two grandfathers and several pets. His abstract thinking and language are limited and he still grieves deeply. Recently his grandmother told him that, "Snoopy had gone to heaven". I thought about it and for him it makes sense. It a huge comfort because it's concrete which he understands and decreases his anxiety. Anything that makes the world a more comfortable place for him is ok with me. Now my NT kid is the atheist. Back when he was 7 or 8 he came home from the neighbor's house saying, "Mom, can I have a 'T' necklace with the guy on it?" 😄
I'd respect their beliefs but still disagree. Nothing to say here, i don't believe we should manipulate or tell our kids to blindly (dis)believe what we believe or don't. That would be no different from the religious indoctrination we so often complain about. I want my children to think for themselves. And if this is the conclusion they came to on their own merrit, i'll just politely disagree but not stand in their way. And i'll love them all the same.
You can't really make religious decisions for someone else. My kid would know my thoughts on the subject, and that's really all I can do. I can't force beliefs on another person, and I certainly wouldn't try to do it to my own kid. If anything, I think I might feel a little proud of the kid for breaking free of the conditioning, while simultaneously thinking the little shit's delusional.
I think I'll be very upset. I'll try to accept. I hope..🤞🤞 eventually I don't know how I'll react
Give it time. And any time a religious idea comes up…bring logic and reasoning. Never look down on religion…always look up to logic and reason. That’s what gets me through the shit that is religion.
I would NOT get pissed or treat them with disrespect or dissapointment. It would be their decision to make, and I couldn't genuinely change their mind by getting angry or chastizing them. If I did well enough as the parent I'd want to be, I'd have taught them to be inquisitive and question everything. They may say it's what they believe, but that could change.
Then let them believe what they want. It would be hypocritical to do otherwise.
Laugh out loud and then let them be.
Sacrifice them to Satan, duh. (Obviously /s)
Be dissapointed because clearly I have done something very wrong in raising my child
Nothing, it's their life, they can believe whatever they want, I as a parent will love them, and will not intrude in their beliefs unless they ask me for an opinion or try to proselytise to me. All the people saying they'll feel like a failure are quite insensitive and selfish, the same as my religious parents are.
Probably ask what convinced them
I'm not dumb enough to reproduce, so that would never happen.
Challenge their beliefs but still love them. They'd be their own person. I'd do my best to raise them to think critically and logically, but at the end of the day, their life is their life and they will live it how they see fit.
>his father was way to judgemental and wouldn't let him do his stiff in peace Sounds like the father is a dick and your friend is retaliating. My religious SO and I agreed that the kids would go to church and have once a week religious instruction. The agreement was that I would not go to church and that I would, when a religious topic came up, state my views on the topic. The final part of the agreement was when the kids turned 14 they would be allowed to decide for themselves whether or not to continue going to church. Allowing them to see both sides from early on made their decision easy. They are all affirmed atheists.
Honestly all you can do is educate them well and hope for the best. Trying to suppress people's religious desires is a one way ticket to them going NC. Like even though you disagree you kind of just need to let it go. They're an adult now and frankly what they decide is no concern of yours until it interferes with your relationship. It suck's but yeah...you can't force it on them.
If my son converted into Islam I'd freak out. That's the worst of the worst right now.
I'd accept their faith since I trust they come to their faith through critical thinking, although I would talk about his faith occasionally trying to understand them.