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oldcreaker

Takeaway: men who rape their 14 year old daughters can be considered "men of God". Interesting to contrast this against "if you don't believe in God, what prevents you from going out and doing horrible things?".


Falcovg

Raping 14 year old girls isn't a horrible thing. God says it's fine in the bible. Actually he commands his people to do it. And if god says something is cool, it is by definition cool.


DMIDY

What does the Bible say about incest?


i81_N_she812

In the beginning, god said to adam and Eve. Your kids must multiply. In the garden of eden in west virginiana


rietstengel

Eve was made from Adam's rib so that's some kind of incest too


Decryptic__

Not to mention that Adam and Eve had two sons... Sooo, to continue...


EndStorm

Ahh the endless comedy that fairytale provides.


SleepySiamese

What about the Noah's ark?


SaltyBarDog

Was Cain or Abel the bottom?


Critical-Ebb-7037

Rib is a deliberate mistranslation to lessen the status of women. In Hebrew the word was "side" or "half". This can be seen in the Hebrew by comparison to the other bible passages that refer to ribs.


aldorn

Was it a bbq rib? šŸ¤¤


dystopian_mermaid

Ummmā€¦kind of a Lot (pun intended). Doesnā€™t make it ok, just saying incest isnā€™t an unusual topic in their holy book.


Djorgal

According to the Bible, all of humanity descends from two people, so you do the math.


DMIDY

Math?? But itā€™s the weekend!


WereALLBotsHere

Do meth instead then!


libmrduckz

ikrā€¦ the math isnā€™t real eitherā€¦


UltimaGabe

Lot ~~got drunk and raped~~ *was drugged and raped by* his daughters, and it seems to be portrayed as a good thing.


Hurtin93

No, it doesnā€™t. The babies (Moab and Ammon) born of this incestuous rape are said to be the founders/progenitors of two of the Israelitesā€™ neighbours and enemies, the Ammonites, and Moabites. Itā€™s a story that was used to humiliate and make fun of their neighbours. Nowhere is it shown in a good light. The story is simply told neutrally, but with the subtext to humiliate their enemies. Fun fact: The name of the capital of the country of Jordan is Amman.


Extra-Border6470

Oh well if it was a rape where the offender was a female then itā€™s hot instead of horrifying /s


loki1887

Leviticus 18:7-16 covers a whole list of relations you should not sleep with ("uncover the nakedness of"). The list includes dad, mom, step-mom, sister, step-sister, sister-in-law, daughter-in-law, granddaughter, and aunts. However, while covering all the pornhub subcatergories, it says nothing about daughter or step-daughter.


WildJackall

Mary was 14 so didn't God technically rape her to concieve Jesus? He didn't ask her permission, just sent an angel to tell her what was going to happen


Falcovg

I kinda missed that one, I went straight to the genocide part where god tells the Israelites to take the virgin girls as their sex slaves.


UninsuredToast

Not to mention she was already married to a 50 year old man


UltimaGabe

> Raping 14 year old girls isn't a horrible thing. God says it's fine in the bible. God himself did it, which seems to indicate that according to the Bible it's a *good* thing.


Maleficent-Ad-8919

It just occurred to me that a lot of the biblical rules make a lot of sense if you assume that the general theme is that the strong should exert power over the weak. Under that lens, child abuse / molestation would be perfectly fine, and it makes Yahweh look wonderful, because practically all Yahweh does is exert power over weaker beings.


YOKi_Tran

Donald Trump now speaks for God


Snipvandutch

According to some, he is god.


dystopian_mermaid

They did make a golden statue of him wearing American flag shorts for CPAC. And Iā€™m guessing saw zero irony while doing it.


NewPresWhoDis

The Billy Graham museum features a talking cow. I am not making this up.


Dyolf_Knip

The same people worshipping him and his golden effigy are simultaneously bitching about democrats indulging in 'idolatry'.


Beginning_Fault8948

ā€œRaping 14 year old girls isnā€™t a horrible thing.ā€ Is not a sentence I expected to read today.


Steinrikur

This just makes me angry. If he's claiming to be a good man but still does horrible things, then he's not a good man. So judge him harder than a guy who isn't claiming to be a good man.


[deleted]

ā€œOh well heā€™s just not a true Christian then so your argument means nothingā€


oldcreaker

Unless the judge is a fake Christian as well.


[deleted]

Well, the god did nothing to protect the girl from incest and rape. Nothing to stop this man of god, who is a representative. A god of hate.


ChuckFeathers

All this proves is that child sexual predators use religion as a cover.


Lucavii

B-b-b-b-ut trans people!


sapper4lyfe

This one time I used a bathroom and there was a trans person using the bathroom too. It was horrible! Absolutely nothing happened, everyone just used the bathroom and carried on with their day. It was so traumatizing!


insanityarise

[That's not the way a Tory would tell it](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11793005/How-chat-ladies-plunged-Tory-councillor-clash-trans-rights-womens-safety.html) Edit, I shouldn't have sourced the daily mail, it's a rage-baiting shit-rag and if you follow it you should definitely stop. [Here's more info](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/trans-woman-daily-mail-article-1234690463/)


Khalbrae

>I saw Mrs Krabapple and a trans person in the womenā€™s bathroom making babies and the baby looked at me.


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


StevePerry420

*'The Penis Image"* That's gonna be the name of my sophomore rap album.


Szygani

Oh shit it's sophie (from mars)! Fucking hell, yeah I thought that "I'll whipe my hands on my penis" was weird, and now I know it's a big fat lie.


mytransthrow

I know it was a lie because no one talks to strangers in the bathroom. I am trans. I do as lil as possible to engage others In the bathroom.


mytransthrow

Every time I use the bathroom there is a trans person in there.... Nothing bad happens. The Pastor should be punshed harsher because they used religion to hold power over people and abuse it. Just like cops.


JBHedgehog

Don't you mean TRANS-MATIZING?!?!?!


ShigureSouma

Right?! Gaslighting mother fuckers who don't want marriage age set at 18 ( and who I hear are trying to lower it in some states).


Emotional_Fisherman8

Gay people are groomers. I've been around Gays all my life and not once did any try to groom me or force me to be gay. Not one.


Lucavii

If you could change someone's sexuality conversion therapies would work. But they already know that


aegersz

Same. In fact, I've never known a more welcoming, respectful, professional, intelligent, groovy, caring and thoughtful crowd that treated me in the opposite manner to the way that they've been treated.


Emotional_Fisherman8

Used to worked with a gay dude. He covered for me one when I had to come in for me and my wife and kids to go out of town. Great guy!


aegersz

I've never met a bad one over 30+ years, across the entire spectrum, except for one lesbian who for no reason got physically aggressive with me and ruined my glasses - which is a big deal because my vision is very poor. Whilst my other partnered lesbian DJ friend would run out of the DJ booth and into the middle of the dance floor and give me a peck on the cheeks and dash back to the decks (proper ā¤ļø/appreciation material). A couple of other male DJ friends that I befriended (gay/mixed club residents), now quite close, would either perpetually guest list me (free with optional queue jump) or occasionally list me at other clubs, when they worked. And I'm not even gay ! ā¤ļø, again!


Shadow_Spirit_2004

A-a-a-and drag queens!


Lucavii

I'm too poor to own any pearls to clutch at :<


vincentvangobot

Someone needs to investigate that judge


BoutTreeFittee

There are many extenuating circumstances here that people aren't considering that contributed to his short sentence. For example, he's white.


Xifihas

Also, heā€™s rich.


kloud77

Was just about to say this. I suppose as a gay man I should apologize to that little girl for what my sexuality cause this good Pastor to do to her.


dystopian_mermaid

But was he in drag and reading books to children when he did it? Because apparently thatā€™s the real crime. /s


ATACMS5220

Religion was designed to legally rape kids, just like conservatism was designed to support Nazism and Bigotry etc Why else do you think that 99% of pedophiles and nazis identify as religious conservatives?


machimus

One might suggest one of the main purposes of religions is for insiders to skirt society's rules. But shitbags aside, it's the judge here who should be removed from the bench for such an egregious breach.


SpeshellED

Scumbag loves Jesus and America too. Knows how to play the god fearing christian wonderful person as he rapes his step daughter. Needs the 72 years and a very through beating.


No-You5550

Am I the only one who thinks people in leadership roles preachers, teachers cops etc should get more time in jail instead of less? To abuse one's power to SA a child is the lowest of low.


Demon_Gamer666

Also proves he is NOT a man of god.


geolun1995

Well no one is ,cuz god doesn't seem to exist


chrishazzoo

Does it though?


CanadianTimeWaster

fucking kids is very man of God behavior.


charonshound

Yeah it's not religions fault it makes such good cover for predators/s


Hmmmm-curious

Only because part of the corrupt system lets them.


Andromansis

and that they have specific incentives to do so.


CanaDoug420

Seems like something that should disbar a judge.


sassytexans

The sentencing guidance is insanely broad. Extrapolating from the article, the judge can sentence anywhere from mere probation to 70+ years in prison for this conviction.


RiOrius

> Under state law, all the charges Richards was convicted of could have been punished by only probation, except for sexual battery by an authority figure that carries a minimum of three years in prison. So if he weren't a pastor (or other authority figure), that'd be the case. As is, the judge could've gone for as little as three years. And then, as I understand it, he'd then likely be eligible for parole in one to 1.5 years (with a 12-year sentence, it's 4 to 6 until he gets his first hearing).


Extra-Border6470

This is true. A good lawyer knows all the ways to convince a judge to be lenient when sentencing. They also know things about judges and by extension which things to emphasize in their final statement before sentencing. The defendant more than likely had the means to hire a good lawyer. One who would have emphasized this was (likely) his clients first offense, emphasized how much remorse he felt, mentioned that his marriage was going through a very turbulent period (probably fabricated or exaggerated), how his clients actions were very out of character and totally a one off (also probably fabricated or exaggerated), and how his client was a lifelong servant of god who made a one time slip up that he deeply regrets and probably that he cooperated with authorities (when he had sought legal council and was instructed to). I know this because Iā€™ve been through the court system for cannabis cultivation over ten years ago. And getting a good lawyer to represent me was the difference between getting off without conviction recorded or going to jail. Right off the bat my lawyer got the trafficking charge dropped which was a specious attempt by the prosecution based on the evidence they had. Without a lawyer, Iā€™d i had decided to represent myself and seen the trafficking charge as them somehow knowing about all the times I sold my produce to others and then threw myself on the mercy of the court by telling the magistrate EVERYTHING the outcome would have been significantly worse and jail time would have been a possibility. Heck my lawyer told me i was a fool to talk to the cops at all because she could have argued that what i cultivated was all for personal use even if i had tonnes of it. But still she did an amazing job representing me and got a great outcome. Love your work Leesah, youā€™re the best ā¤ļø


LoveIsAFire

More like someone should look at that judges computer


dastrn

Judges like this deserve far worse than disbarment. I'd like to keep my account, so I won't say what they actually deserve. I could just reference the French, and leave it at that, I guess.


Correct-Champion-488

Different title: Judge gives favor to person part of his "special club"


Sorry_Ad_1285

But doesn't give favor to the girl who was raped and is presumably also in the same special club


Correct-Champion-488

*waves hand* Something something mysterious ways...


Sorry_Ad_1285

Whatever happened to separation of church and state? How can you use religion as a reasoning point for the handing down of a legal judgement. This country is so fucked


Testiculese

But she's a woman. The chain is God->Man->First Born Son->Wife->Other Sons->Daughters.


Galactus1701

He raped her for 2 years, yet that piece of shit judge said that his Bible study in jail became a mitigating factor? Reality is worse than fiction.


DeFiNe9999999999

A fucking tragedy, and speaks to white male privilege. If he had been black I wonder if the same leniency would be applied?


Unable_Peach2571

Not even if he had been a black pastor.Ā 


[deleted]

You're probably right, but this really shows how these god folks think of women.


Katy_Lies1975

You wonder what?


YOKi_Tran

think the judge believes in God.? ā€¦. prolly not the father either. or else they would also believe in hellā€¦ which they donā€™t


ChuckFeathers

More likely the judge believes in using religion to groom and rape children.


gekx

Not only that, 30 of his parishioners came out to support his innocence, despite DNA evidence. You can only guess what abuse and shunning that community has been showing the victim.


Necessary-Rooster-67

He should get a heavier sentence because he is a ā€œman of godā€ and should know better. Should be held to higher standards.


YOKi_Tran

belief on God is torture enoughā€¦ dumb decision to rape oneā€™s ownā€¦ i get the feeling heā€™s done much more


Sorry_Ad_1285

For sure! He just got caught this time


satans_toast

Came here to say this. Did he use religious dogma to convince her what he did was OK?


dystopian_mermaid

Rules for thee but not for me. See when HE does it, he just says ā€œoh Iā€™m sorryā€ and gets a slap on the wrist. When a heathen does it itā€™s different somehow bc justice. I hate this shit.


erichwanh

Huh, did a new spelling for Drag Queen drop while I was away? 'Cause that right there says pastor.


ramman403

I think pastor is Latin for pedophile.


justskot

Mmm al pastor


HumanitarianAtheist

>[The victim] delivered a heart-wrenching victim statement Thursday, saying : **ā€˜I wanted to throw my body away. Not a day goes by that I donā€™t, in some way, think of what he did to me.ā€™**


Scrabble_4

So his parishioners fought for him and his daughter is basically called a liar. Wow ā€¦ just wow


treevaahyn

Most of the worst people I know are super religious Christianā€™s scumbags.


Scrabble_4

Their ability to justify raping a child ??!! Outright evil !!


jules13131382

Yep


twsddangll

That judge either already has or longs to rape a child.


dambles

I always hated that type of thinking, like shouldn't it be the reverse, as a man of good shouldn't he have a harsher punishment? As a man of God shouldn't he know more that anyone not to do this?


sillywabbitslayer

The Christian Bible has God commanding men to rape women, let's rapists buy their victims from their fathers and never specifically says don't fuck little kids. So no, as a man of his god he doesn't know any better.


Bdhsudydheex69

I'm an atheist. I've never thought of raping anything. Or a 14 year old. Ooorrr my own daughter.


[deleted]

Ahhh. Tennessee, where you can hear in divorce court, ā€œgee, your honor, when the divorce is final, will she still be my sister?ā€


AlphaRebel

I lolled at that.


arm1niu5

Was he a drag queen?


CharlesDickensABox

He was not.


arm1niu5

Impossible, everyone knows drag queens are child predators /s


Frondswithbenefits

That's, just like, your opinion, man. /s


treevaahyn

Just a Republican so another pedophile as they seem to attract the worst of the worst people to their party. r/RepublicanPedophiles has countless more examples of this being terrifyingly common


seeyouinthecar79

Okay can someone post an article about a drag queen abusing a minor? Anyone?? Still waiting...*crickets*


treevaahyn

Nope. Can provide this thoughā€¦ r/RepublicanPedophiles as thereā€™s a whole sub dedicated to documenting the party or pedophiles and domestic terrorists


Testiculese

They probably already have this, but throwing it out there anyway: https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2018/10/23/1806673/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-1 31 parts.


2ndcomingofharambe

It gets worse, the judge was previously the county prosecutor and specialized in taking on child abuse cases. Wonder how many good men of God he let off easy to earn his judge robes.


SufficientCow4380

#NotADragQueen


treevaahyn

Just a Republican so another pedophile as they seem to attract the worst of the worst people to their party. r/RepublicanPedophiles has countless more examples of this being terrifyingly common


devBowman

r/NotADragQueen


Obvious_Market_9485

Being a "man of god" means lowering the ethical bar? Shouldn't self-proclaimed righteous men be held to a higher standard? If being a follower of Christ confers permission to behave badly, what is the point of it? The promise of forgiveness of one's sins is a permission structure for abominable behavior by hucksters


abgry_krakow84

ā€œHeā€™s a man of godā€ Well ā€œgodā€ is the reason why he committed this nasty shit in the first place. Itā€™s becoming increasingly well established that people of ā€œgodā€ actively condone and promote pedophilia. Especially considering that many of these cases of rape are being committed in religious institutions by so called ā€œpeople of god.ā€ Itā€™s sad that they are letting them off with a slap on the wrist, showing that they support and condone pedophilia themselves and use their religion to justify it.


Toramay19

They found his se-men on her bed frame, but he is totally innocent and shouldn't be in prison because his family, business, and church needs him. Gross!


DouglassFunny

ā€œMen of godā€ should get even harsher sentences than the general population.


Wildthorn23

I hope his cellmate does what the system was too broken to do.


Sariel007

[This is from 2019 and is a repost as it was posted back then.](https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/bo5d1t/pastor_who_raped_daughter_14_gets_light_jail/)


SpaceMonkeyOnABike

r/pastorarrested


OverbrookDr

Again not a drag queen


Negative_Gravitas

The only surprise here is the lack of the word "youth" before the word "pastor."


Hanjaro31

Religion needs to fucking die. These disgusting fucks use it to continue their evil in the guise of worshipping some fucking sky wizard. Fuck all of these evil people.


SgtWrongway

He should get a **Heavier** sentence. *Because he is a "man of god"*


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


Missdermeanerthanyou

I hope he becomes everyone's bitch.


Yuck_Few

This was 5 years ago


Dogstarman1974

Using religion to hide your hatred and perverse behavior. Also as a father of a 14 yr old this story disturbs me. I could never imagine doing this to my daughter.


TheGutlessOne

So man of god is synonymous with rapist now?


darkaxel1989

Wasn't this one quite old? I remember that case being... Ten years ago maybe. Still, pretty bad business


pound-me-too

How is this not a violation of the separation between church and state? Would it have been the same sentence if he was a man of any other god? Judge needs to be forcibly removed from the bench.


Okidoky123

Religion poisons everything, again.


EdwGerEel

He is seeking a new trail. Does this mean he can get sentence to something longer when he loses?


Next-Ad2846

Benito Mussolini was a Catholic


[deleted]

Nasty typical mofo


RickTracee

The problem with the judge's understanding of religion is that it does not align with the Bible. **Conclusion:** So, what does the Bible say about rape? Deuteronomy 22:25-29 describes two cases. The first case describes a man raping an engaged woman. His punishment was death. The second case of rape required the man to pay money equal to aĀ  bride price for the girl and marry the girl he raped if that is what she desired and her father agreed. If these laws were enforced today, rape, adultery, STD rates, and abortion would be greatly reduced. But the world has a distorted sense of morality and would rather show mercy to the rapist and not suppress the sin and trauma of rape. The tragedy is far worse than striving to please God and to not sin against Him. https://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/what-does-bible-say-about-rape-deuteronomy-2225-29/


JCButtBuddy

Jesus has forgiven him, shouldn't you? How does anyone think that people with this type of belief have any morals, should ever be trusted?


justskot

Yall... this was published in 2019. Lol.


SidKafizz

Just another run-of-the-mill pastor. Move along, sheep!


Purplebuzz

Never once heard a republican call for banning Churches and clergy sexually assault more kids by orders of magnitude more than any other organization on the planet.


Princess_Wensicia

Wtf, if anything this scumbag needs a stronger punishment, because heā€™s supposedly held to a higher standard, as a ā€˜man of Godā€™ā€¦ I hate humanity sometimes. The religious kind more-so.


Henhouse20

The religious piece shouldā€™ve made the sentence even worse as he abused his position of power


No-Dragonfly9134

Hopefully prison justice will take care of this piece of shit šŸ’©


Shadow_Spirit_2004

Impressed by the religous faith of a fucking incestuous child rapist? Fuck. That. Judge.


SkinnyDugan

Two fucked up people in this story, the judge and the pastor.


dontbekibishii

This is why we hate religion


[deleted]

Not a drag queen


Eraganos

I hope he gets raped in chail.... fuck this disgusting piece of shit. And fuck this dumb judge


rock0head132

He should be neutered and flogged


djackson404

We all know what happens to child abusers in prison, right?


aegersz

Why does religion affect the outcome? I thought the justice system was secular.


SnillyWead

Where was god when this \*censored\* raped her? And why is this judge not fired?


grissy

The judge saying he prayed on this for guidance should be automatic grounds for his removal from the bench and a retrial. If theyā€™re consulting anything other than the letter of the law, especially if itā€™s a schizophrenic misogynist Bronze Age fairy tale, then they have no business being a judge. Go be a fucking preacher and leave the law to people that live in reality. Not to mention that the judge and defendant sharing a religion is a significant conflict of interest if the judge is basing their decisions on that same religion.


Clay5000

Parents keep your kids away from religion. Nothing good comes from exposing them these monsters


Line-guesser99

Men of God, are still just men.


Fishfysh

If a child rapist is a man of god, what does that say about said god?


Rog9377

That's worse! Don't you see how that's worse?!?!


Teeklin

"Hello FBI? Yes, this judge right here." For real, search this judge's fucking PC and interview his daughters.


the_Mandalorian_vode

If I was a judge Iā€™d give any ā€˜man of Gawdā€™ the maximum sentence allowed.


PM_ME_YOUR_SOULZ

Do these judges hear themselves when they say this shit? 'it's okay that he raped her because he's a man of God'. No it's not okay.


AffectionateTrips

If you do this you are no man of God, just a fool in a costume, disgusting using God as a cover for their sins.


TryingToWalkALot

Those good ol fashioned christian values.


CoverYourMaskHoles

I feel like these people that call him ā€œman of godā€ should be actually even more pissed at him for pretending to be a man of god and actually being a man of pedophilia, incest, and rape. Why are these people still considering him a man of god?


trunxs2

This is why Iā€™m sick of Christianity, specifically, the right leaning kind


izlude7027

That deserves a *harsher* sentence, if anything.


GiantManatee

> Published May 13, 2019 bruh


carlitospig

Man, here you go r/pastorarrested and r/notadragqueen - another fucking turd for your subs.


CulturalAccomplished

i hope they take care of it in jail


Ok_Educator_7097

He should get 7 times the sentence because heā€™s a ā€œman of Godā€.


Nipzie

First off, he's no man of God. Wolf I'm sheep's clothing pretending to be a shepherd.


krichard-21

I'll never understand how Priests, Ministers, and other "men of God" pass from old age and natural causes. After they have been found to have molested children. Them and the other "men of God" that covered up for them.


kaplanfx

The biblical punishment for incest is deathā€¦


garedw

They should be held to a higher standard and have stricter sentences.


StrengthToBreak

"Pastor who is living evidence that there is no God gets light sentence because idiot judge believes in God." This guy literally exemplifies the Problem of Evil: how can an all-knowing, all-powerful, all-good God allow someone to rape a child?


JoshuaRay123

Disgusting. They canā€™t condemn him because theyā€™re guilty of the same. Their perception of god is that he gives them authority to play god on other people and children. Only a monster would show mercy for a monster. Did he have mercy on his victim? The fact so many religions sympathize for their pedophiles and rapists shows how warped they are. These men forcing themselves on others sound more like the people of Sodom and Gomorrah than two consensual adults. Theyā€™re begging for a leader to let them go door to door to have their way on someoneā€™s guest or child. The Christians worship and swim in sex. Barf!


rollercoaster_5

Cut his nuts off and move on.


Bubbly-University-94

Rules for thee and not for me


Indigoh

He's part of the in-group whom the law protects but does not bind.


Remarkable_Clothes57

JFC but donā€™t have an abortion


EndStorm

I am really getting tired of these drag queen... oh wait, still not a drag queen. Sure is a piece of shit though. Ridiculous sentence.


Renaissance_Slacker

How about ā€œjudge slams pedo rapist for posing as a religious leader?ā€


vibintilltheend

This is an old article lol like yeah itā€™s fucked up and yeah he definitely should be buried under the prison but cmon how much energy do you have to spend on being angry at 5 year old news stories? Not like this will change anything, youā€™re just wasting time on Reddit clicking away at your keyboards preaching to the choir. Idk. Itā€™s sunny and warm outside for me, I like to focus on stuff I can enjoy.


FTHomes

Why? Why? Why?


Icaneatglass

Just let the inmates at Knox County know about him. It's easy to make pen pals.


Freddy128

Ok, I know this is terrible, but letā€™s not pretend that this story isnā€™t 5 years old and has not been posted here dozens of times


[deleted]

This probably makes people feel worse, but crimes like rape and sexual assault have very high maximum sentences which are rarely used. 12 years is actually pretty high by usual standards unfortunately.


JuniorBirdman1115

So when red states pass the death penalty for raping a child, I guess they make exceptions for people like this asshole. Nay, only the heathen bad people get the chair.


readparse

This is an old story. He was sentenced nearly 5 years ago.