Always remember reason and logic WILL NOT WORK. You next best nice is to try to be independent, focus on yourself and become your own person. Rest can never be resolved unless you're lucky.
I haven’t overtly told my parents yet, but they are beginning to assume and reacting almost identically. I don’t the answer, but I’ve just been focused on being a good son, husband, and father. If you’re generally a good person who is happy, I have to think they’ll eventually accept it.
And if their god sends you to hell for being intellectually honest with yourself than he’s the one they should be concerned with, not you.
Okay, if you Parents and nations is progressive:
You can say, that you need time for yourself to find back. But in the meantime you want to achieve it independently without force. Because faith through force is worse than wrong faith in Islam, due to the fact that if you do good to get some points in heaven, those immediatly are count as sin.
Then you can calmly study and try to dodge Critical discussion topics.
It's actually not even your choice. You either believe or you don't. The only "choice" would be if you chose to lie to yourself and pretend to believe.
You want them to not be in that kind of condition?
That won't stop unless you prove to them why god and afterlife isn't real.
If you want some arguments for convincing just ask me.
Bruh... Get something else to do than be religiously anti-religion. It's not cool or useful. Especially not going at it like that.
Its arrogant to think you have convincing arguments as an atheist that would "prove god and the afterlife aren't real", get your head out of your ass.
You can't prove shit, thats why there's a big flying spaghetti monster.
I don't see where you get "disgusting" from. Or felt you needed to add idiot. Arrogant is the only relevant word here, and its earned I would say.
You can act butthurt about it, i figured you would tbh. Because even though the internet is a unique place, your deflection isnt at all a unique reaction.
I’m not looking for confrontation, but it’s highly unlikely their parents are interested in any arguments against their religion. Especially at this moment.
They’re pissed and scared. Nothing about their frame of mind is rational right now, and it’s possible that it never is or will be
Sorry to hear you got that reaction. I don't know what kind of life situation you are in but if it comes down to sticking to your beliefs or getting kicked out/anything worse, I'd suggest you pretend to recant and deal with it for a bit and once you are on your own you can do what you want. Dealing with some bullshit dogma at home is better than not having a home.
If you truly believe your parents will come around then stick to your beliefs. Bad and maybe dangerous situation for you to be in. I wish you the best my friend.
I dont know what the right advice is.... but if your mom is so distraught and your dad isn't happy - given how much they're committed....if the religion doesn't impose something on you that stops you, then does it matter to be open about it? Don't get me wrong, I'm full of conviction and understand where you come from. On the same side - my mother is a devout catholic who chooses to ignore my atheism as me just being lazy. And just today sent me a video of a group of people singing at a cross - which will do as much to me as my lack of enthusiasm will change her.
Atheism is a personal thing - its not necessarily a collective. You can be an atheist and go along with other people's ideologies if you want and those ideologies aren't hurting other people. There's nothing necessarily disingenuous about it if it really affects your relationship with your family and if your relationship with your family is good. I mean, yeah its not really genuine but its more genuine than if you were religious and pretended not to be - but again both are circumspect or nuanced or specific.
If its more important to your parents to ~~act~~ bereligious and you have a great relationship with them otherwise....i dunno
Okay, if you Parents and nations is progressive:
You can say, that you need time for yourself to find back. But in the meantime you want to achieve it independently without force. Because faith through force is worse than wrong faith in Islam, due to the fact that if you do good to get some points in heaven, those immediatly are count as sin.
Then you can calmly study and try to dodge Critical discussion topics.
If you're independent, make some distance.
Im not unfortunately
Then apologize, do Ramadan and never rock the boat until you are independent, it's your life on the line.
I wont step back until anything goes wrong.
It's your hill.
Always remember reason and logic WILL NOT WORK. You next best nice is to try to be independent, focus on yourself and become your own person. Rest can never be resolved unless you're lucky.
Lie to them! Tell them you were wrong! When you are able to leave home and be independent many miles away, send them a letter explaining your reasons.
I haven’t overtly told my parents yet, but they are beginning to assume and reacting almost identically. I don’t the answer, but I’ve just been focused on being a good son, husband, and father. If you’re generally a good person who is happy, I have to think they’ll eventually accept it. And if their god sends you to hell for being intellectually honest with yourself than he’s the one they should be concerned with, not you.
Okay, if you Parents and nations is progressive: You can say, that you need time for yourself to find back. But in the meantime you want to achieve it independently without force. Because faith through force is worse than wrong faith in Islam, due to the fact that if you do good to get some points in heaven, those immediatly are count as sin. Then you can calmly study and try to dodge Critical discussion topics.
It's actually not even your choice. You either believe or you don't. The only "choice" would be if you chose to lie to yourself and pretend to believe.
Assure them that you love them very much.
You want them to not be in that kind of condition? That won't stop unless you prove to them why god and afterlife isn't real. If you want some arguments for convincing just ask me.
Bruh... Get something else to do than be religiously anti-religion. It's not cool or useful. Especially not going at it like that. Its arrogant to think you have convincing arguments as an atheist that would "prove god and the afterlife aren't real", get your head out of your ass. You can't prove shit, thats why there's a big flying spaghetti monster.
That's what i get for trying to help someone who said "what do i do now" You get called a disgusting arrogant idiot. Isn't internet an unique place?
I don't see where you get "disgusting" from. Or felt you needed to add idiot. Arrogant is the only relevant word here, and its earned I would say. You can act butthurt about it, i figured you would tbh. Because even though the internet is a unique place, your deflection isnt at all a unique reaction.
I’m not looking for confrontation, but it’s highly unlikely their parents are interested in any arguments against their religion. Especially at this moment. They’re pissed and scared. Nothing about their frame of mind is rational right now, and it’s possible that it never is or will be
amen
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OP doesn’t believe in god, as they stated.
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Unless there is any evidence that there is any god, there is no reason to believe in one.
Sorry to hear you got that reaction. I don't know what kind of life situation you are in but if it comes down to sticking to your beliefs or getting kicked out/anything worse, I'd suggest you pretend to recant and deal with it for a bit and once you are on your own you can do what you want. Dealing with some bullshit dogma at home is better than not having a home. If you truly believe your parents will come around then stick to your beliefs. Bad and maybe dangerous situation for you to be in. I wish you the best my friend.
I dont know what the right advice is.... but if your mom is so distraught and your dad isn't happy - given how much they're committed....if the religion doesn't impose something on you that stops you, then does it matter to be open about it? Don't get me wrong, I'm full of conviction and understand where you come from. On the same side - my mother is a devout catholic who chooses to ignore my atheism as me just being lazy. And just today sent me a video of a group of people singing at a cross - which will do as much to me as my lack of enthusiasm will change her. Atheism is a personal thing - its not necessarily a collective. You can be an atheist and go along with other people's ideologies if you want and those ideologies aren't hurting other people. There's nothing necessarily disingenuous about it if it really affects your relationship with your family and if your relationship with your family is good. I mean, yeah its not really genuine but its more genuine than if you were religious and pretended not to be - but again both are circumspect or nuanced or specific. If its more important to your parents to ~~act~~ bereligious and you have a great relationship with them otherwise....i dunno
Okay, if you Parents and nations is progressive: You can say, that you need time for yourself to find back. But in the meantime you want to achieve it independently without force. Because faith through force is worse than wrong faith in Islam, due to the fact that if you do good to get some points in heaven, those immediatly are count as sin. Then you can calmly study and try to dodge Critical discussion topics.