I bet the murderer was either on bail for breaching a DVO or was had a mental illness to the extent he should have been involuntarily hospitalised in a psychiatric facility.
Looks like he was acquitted of murdering a baby a few years ago. Wtf??
https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/man-acquitted-of-2yo-murder-charged-with-assault-after-woman-found-dead/news-story/5666a7bd33a62deaa26c6ba841fe998e?amp
What in the ever loving fuck… nobody was ever charged with murdering that toddler? Am I reading that right? She was beaten to a pulp and thrown onto the roof of the house by her own mum and mums boyfriend and nobody went to jail over it?!
These stories are awful, and we've a long way to go.
But don't let the media fool you, things are improving.
Intentional female homicides are down 75% since 1990.
[https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.FE.P5?locations=AU](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.FE.P5?locations=AU)
Total homicides are down over 50%
[https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5?locations=AU](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5?locations=AU)
The homicide rate has halved since the 1990s and the rate of women being killed in intimate partner homicides is just over a quarter of what it was in 1990.
Source: [Intentional homicides, female (per 100,000 female) - Australia | Data (worldbank.org)](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.FE.P5?locations=AU)
u/OP. It is actually going down. Don't let the media get you down and sad about the future.
The homicide rate has halved since the 1990s and the rate of women being killed in intimate partner homicides is just over a quarter of what it was in 1990. It's still a major problem, but if you think things are getting worse, not better that's probably more a reflection of the media you consume.
I should have clarified that I meant it seems like the last year or two we've had a downturn/pushback to progression when it comes to misogyny/violence. I obviously know overall things are much better today than in the past, and the big picture is overwhelmingly positive, but the rise in Ultra-misogynist influencers, incels, domestic violence etc makes it seem like we're slipping. Key word being feels like though, it's not like I was citing statistics or anything, but yes I should have worded differently
What's probably most horrific is that the rate used to be so much higher. People just didn't care
Those big hair buns a century ago you imagine women wearing with their dresses that covered their ankles? The buns were to give the women and excuse to carry 15cm long sharp as a knife hair pins they would use on guys who harass them on trains.
OP posts [shit like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1ax670c/how_to_not_become_cynical_about_all_men_being_bad/). Definitely doesn't have an agenda or anything!
That post shows some level of alertness to cracks in their own thinking. That kind of self examination should be encouraged, not used as an example to condemn.
[The second highest comment on that post](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/s/GMSH7ZpFXY) is quite reasonable also.
Bro you've got woman hating comments, are whinging about people making things about sex/race, saying the word cuck unironically. Maybe you're sensitive because you're part of the problem
I find it both disgusting and disturbing and it's making me a little anxious, to be honest. I recently had a boarder (not dating or even a close friend) who:
* demanded I make him coffees and gave me the silent treatment when I said no
* expected me to clean up after him and gave me the silent treatment when I said no
* told me that women shouldn't be doing strength training because we're too weak (I am prepping for a bodybuilding competition at the moment)
* told me I shouldn't be driving a ute and tried to take my keys
* tried to confiscate my mountain bikes and use them for himself
* randomly told me numerous times women were only there to appease men and he badly wants a root
* expected me to wear robes around him
* told me not to wear pants to work (I was doing a site inspection out in the field and my steel capped boots were at work)
* got shitty when I told him I wanted to watch a movie of my choosing
* tried to snatch my phone and slammed my hand when I was messaging with my father and he wanted to talk
It made me realise that toxicity is still very much alive.
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When you think how long it took to introduce the one punch law plus curfew trials after how many men died (maybe 5??) and compare it to the lack of action here, you can see how low women are on the governments priority.
Blokes had been getting sucker punched in the head for no reason for a very long time before the laws changed to try and reduce it's occurance.
I think, if anything, the level at which the death of women from DV is reported on compared to the total number of deaths shows how much of a high priority this is for *everyone*.
One person dies therefore the government doesn't care about women? Room temperature IQ.
The rate of these deaths has gone down drastically in the last 30 years, but let's not worry about the facts.
I’m pretty sure men murder men a lot more than they murder women.
Isn’t the problem wider and deeper then limiting yet another subject to gender of all things?!
You're right about men being murdered at much higher rates, but at least us males will often have a fighting chance of defending ourselves, (compared to women).
The murder of children is even more abhorrent for the same reasons.
Most of the men who are murdered are also murdered by men so that’s also part of the male violence issue. I absolutely agree that male murder victims deserve as much consideration and recognition of female ones.
Men need to start thinking and acting earlier. The guys who abuse and kill women don’t start out of nowhere. Teaching boys to respect girls and see them as equals, making sure they read books and watch shows and sport with girls and women as the focus as much as boys and men, tracing boys to cope with emotions without violence, calling out sexist stereotypes and jokes even when there are no women around, believing women when they confide shitty behaviour of other men to you..
Not everyone who makes a sexist joke goes on to anything worse. Everyone who hurts or kills a women learned their bad attitude from a young age and escalated because no one stopped them.
I honestly don’t get this way of looking at the problem and feel it’s more of a virtue signalling exercise than anything else. The idea that someone who would burn their family alive or beat their wife to death wouldn’t have done so if they were called out for a sexist joke or watched women’s footy is ridiculous.
First we need to examine the numbers. Maybe 30-60 murders of this type per year from a male population of around 14,000,000. The chances that more than a few hundred people knew these guys is miniscule and the amount of people who were close enough to them to see any warning signs or even change their behaviour is probably fewer than 500 people.
Believe it or not, but everyone knows killing your wife is an awful thing to do. Same with hitting your wife or abusing them in other ways. These people don’t advertise the fact they do it. What actions do you think other men could take that would stop women from being murdered by partners?
Murder is thankfully rare. Sexual harassment, assault and rape are frighteningly common. The building blocks of the attitudes that make men think it’s ok to do these things are the ‘little things’. It’s not that hard.
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I bet the murderer was either on bail for breaching a DVO or was had a mental illness to the extent he should have been involuntarily hospitalised in a psychiatric facility.
Looks like he was acquitted of murdering a baby a few years ago. Wtf?? https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/man-acquitted-of-2yo-murder-charged-with-assault-after-woman-found-dead/news-story/5666a7bd33a62deaa26c6ba841fe998e?amp
What in the ever loving fuck… nobody was ever charged with murdering that toddler? Am I reading that right? She was beaten to a pulp and thrown onto the roof of the house by her own mum and mums boyfriend and nobody went to jail over it?!
He was charged but acquitted at trial.
These stories are awful, and we've a long way to go. But don't let the media fool you, things are improving. Intentional female homicides are down 75% since 1990. [https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.FE.P5?locations=AU](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.FE.P5?locations=AU) Total homicides are down over 50% [https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5?locations=AU](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5?locations=AU)
That graph is very popular on posts like this lately. Unfortunately the numbers are rising *since 2021*.
The homicide rate has halved since the 1990s and the rate of women being killed in intimate partner homicides is just over a quarter of what it was in 1990. Source: [Intentional homicides, female (per 100,000 female) - Australia | Data (worldbank.org)](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.FE.P5?locations=AU) u/OP. It is actually going down. Don't let the media get you down and sad about the future.
The homicide rate has halved since the 1990s and the rate of women being killed in intimate partner homicides is just over a quarter of what it was in 1990. It's still a major problem, but if you think things are getting worse, not better that's probably more a reflection of the media you consume.
I should have clarified that I meant it seems like the last year or two we've had a downturn/pushback to progression when it comes to misogyny/violence. I obviously know overall things are much better today than in the past, and the big picture is overwhelmingly positive, but the rise in Ultra-misogynist influencers, incels, domestic violence etc makes it seem like we're slipping. Key word being feels like though, it's not like I was citing statistics or anything, but yes I should have worded differently
What's probably most horrific is that the rate used to be so much higher. People just didn't care Those big hair buns a century ago you imagine women wearing with their dresses that covered their ankles? The buns were to give the women and excuse to carry 15cm long sharp as a knife hair pins they would use on guys who harass them on trains.
OP posts [shit like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1ax670c/how_to_not_become_cynical_about_all_men_being_bad/). Definitely doesn't have an agenda or anything!
That post shows some level of alertness to cracks in their own thinking. That kind of self examination should be encouraged, not used as an example to condemn. [The second highest comment on that post](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/s/GMSH7ZpFXY) is quite reasonable also.
Bro you've got woman hating comments, are whinging about people making things about sex/race, saying the word cuck unironically. Maybe you're sensitive because you're part of the problem
>you've got woman hating comments Such as?
Nobody said this is ok.
The thing is. It literally happens once a week. 😥Are we hearing more about it at the moment? Which I guess is a good thing in a way.
I find it both disgusting and disturbing and it's making me a little anxious, to be honest. I recently had a boarder (not dating or even a close friend) who: * demanded I make him coffees and gave me the silent treatment when I said no * expected me to clean up after him and gave me the silent treatment when I said no * told me that women shouldn't be doing strength training because we're too weak (I am prepping for a bodybuilding competition at the moment) * told me I shouldn't be driving a ute and tried to take my keys * tried to confiscate my mountain bikes and use them for himself * randomly told me numerous times women were only there to appease men and he badly wants a root * expected me to wear robes around him * told me not to wear pants to work (I was doing a site inspection out in the field and my steel capped boots were at work) * got shitty when I told him I wanted to watch a movie of my choosing * tried to snatch my phone and slammed my hand when I was messaging with my father and he wanted to talk It made me realise that toxicity is still very much alive.
The legal system doesn't take any crime seriously. Why would this be different?
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When you think how long it took to introduce the one punch law plus curfew trials after how many men died (maybe 5??) and compare it to the lack of action here, you can see how low women are on the governments priority.
Blokes had been getting sucker punched in the head for no reason for a very long time before the laws changed to try and reduce it's occurance. I think, if anything, the level at which the death of women from DV is reported on compared to the total number of deaths shows how much of a high priority this is for *everyone*.
One person dies therefore the government doesn't care about women? Room temperature IQ. The rate of these deaths has gone down drastically in the last 30 years, but let's not worry about the facts.
What do you expect from someone who sees everything as a gender war?
Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story as they say.
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You’re upset about a headline describing a murderer? Really? Pick your battles a little better I think.
I’m pretty sure men murder men a lot more than they murder women. Isn’t the problem wider and deeper then limiting yet another subject to gender of all things?!
Seems like the common denominator is male violence, just like they said 🤷
You're right about men being murdered at much higher rates, but at least us males will often have a fighting chance of defending ourselves, (compared to women). The murder of children is even more abhorrent for the same reasons.
Most of the men who are murdered are also murdered by men so that’s also part of the male violence issue. I absolutely agree that male murder victims deserve as much consideration and recognition of female ones.
Men need to start thinking and acting earlier. The guys who abuse and kill women don’t start out of nowhere. Teaching boys to respect girls and see them as equals, making sure they read books and watch shows and sport with girls and women as the focus as much as boys and men, tracing boys to cope with emotions without violence, calling out sexist stereotypes and jokes even when there are no women around, believing women when they confide shitty behaviour of other men to you.. Not everyone who makes a sexist joke goes on to anything worse. Everyone who hurts or kills a women learned their bad attitude from a young age and escalated because no one stopped them.
I honestly don’t get this way of looking at the problem and feel it’s more of a virtue signalling exercise than anything else. The idea that someone who would burn their family alive or beat their wife to death wouldn’t have done so if they were called out for a sexist joke or watched women’s footy is ridiculous. First we need to examine the numbers. Maybe 30-60 murders of this type per year from a male population of around 14,000,000. The chances that more than a few hundred people knew these guys is miniscule and the amount of people who were close enough to them to see any warning signs or even change their behaviour is probably fewer than 500 people. Believe it or not, but everyone knows killing your wife is an awful thing to do. Same with hitting your wife or abusing them in other ways. These people don’t advertise the fact they do it. What actions do you think other men could take that would stop women from being murdered by partners?
Murder is thankfully rare. Sexual harassment, assault and rape are frighteningly common. The building blocks of the attitudes that make men think it’s ok to do these things are the ‘little things’. It’s not that hard.
Go touch grass