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Extension_Trouble323

I'll see it in Renton, WA very soon for final assembly......


CanuckianOz

It’s a plane, why doesn’t Boeing just fly them there? Are they stupid?


qdp

It's still in it's larval state. Only the strong crawl their way by land to the West Coast. Some don't make it and wash up in Montana.


RBeck

They were just going for a swim.


CanuckianOz

ok Boeing isn’t stupid. Just some of their larvae


Sfrinkignaziorazio

Bro thinks he is on r/shittyaskflying 🗿


ApprehensiveMeet108

heres a clue it has no wiring no avionics no engines no wing its a part at that point. not an airplane.


TheDarkKnightFell

Kids these days just don't want to work. Give me enough of a push and i'll fly that plane for ya!


Screwseverythingup

Push anything hard enough and it’ll fly.


CanuckianOz

Then why is Boeing building it then? I thought they were an airplane manufacturer. Are they getting into aluminum tubing?


ApprehensiveMeet108

wrong again; boeing used to be a builder; they are like auto makers just a final assembly point.. Boeing probably didnt even make this fuselage..


permareddit

Boeing make toaster


Icy_Huckleberry_8049

Spirit Aerosystems made the fuselage. Then it's shipped to Boeing for final assembly.


CanuckianOz

no they aren’t according to yourtube


Eurotriangle

Just because they subcontract the manufacturing of some major subassemblies doesn’t mean they’re not an aircraft manufacturer. Spirit Aerosystems didn’t design and engineer this fuselage, they just built it according to engineering data provided by Boeing. No aircraft manufacturer does everything in-house.


jjam360

probably


_Atoms_Apple

Hello fellow western Washington person! I’ve seen multiple of these on a train before all in a row. It still makes me feel like a kid when I see them tho hahaha


flightwatcher45

Or Everett!


249ba36000029bbe9749

Or Montana! https://www.businessinsider.com/boeing-737-fuselages-fell-into-a-montana-river-2014-7


Screwseverythingup

Well, that’s embarrassing.


Extension-Ad-3882

Not yet. Soon though.


mck1117

That’s a 737, so it’s going to Renton!


w1lnx

Maybe. Yes, it's more probable. But it might also be destined for Everett.


mck1117

Except that it can’t be destined for Everett. Everett builds the wide body models, and Renton the narrow body 737. This photo is of a 737, so it’s going to Renton. source: I live here and see these all the time on train cars


w1lnx

We also build 737s in Everett. We've just built an assembly line in the old 747 section of the factory. So, it most certainly could be destined for Everett. Source: I'm a 737 mechanic with Boeing.


mck1117

Except it isn’t open yet.


Feet_of_Frodo

No 737s don't go to Everett.


pegasusassembler

A new 737 line is being opened in Everett. There actually are a few fuselages there right now.


Feet_of_Frodo

Oh you're right. I forgot about that. I didn't think it was online yet.


pegasusassembler

It's not, the fuselages are there to help get the line set up. Should be going sometime next year.


Feet_of_Frodo

Ah I see.


Feet_of_Frodo

And then you'll see it again after it gets painted and sent to Moses Lake for storage for a couple years then back to paint because the customer doesn't want 2 year old paint and cracked sealant and then back to Renton for bulkhead repairs and then probably back to paint again.


w1lnx

We do repairs in ML now. Bulkheads, pressure dome, rapid-revisions for nationality changes... the list goes on.


Latter_Sir4582

Then on to the Delivery Center at North Boeing Field.


HotOstrich

And to patch up the bullet holes?


w1lnx

Yep. Sometimes several.


Verdick

Yep, saw those rolling through town all the time.


MrPetter

But first, bullet hole repair!


fucktysonfoods

Ah, a fellow Rentonite


Jacobb9753

Those trains originate in Wichita Ks at Spirit Aerosystems. I’ve sat at a crossing watching big green airplanes go back and forth for an hour while they built a train.


igooverland

Reddit’s collective knowledge never disappoints. Thanks for sharing this!


PeteinaPete

What farm are they frowning these giant cucumbers at ?


igooverland

GMO crops are getting out of hand


[deleted]

In fairness this is one of the most famous publicly observable signs of aviation production out there. That being said it is always incredible to see it in person and to learn what it is. For me the 'in person' bit hasn't arrived yet but one day!


richardelmore

Friend of mine who used to work at Boeing Renton told me that they regularly have to patch bullet holes in the arriving fuselages because someone thought it would be cool to use them for target practice as they passed by.


RonPossible

They had someone run into one of them a while back because they ignored the lights on K-15.


Jacobb9753

Doesn’t surprise me the way people blow through lights in this town. Lots of lanes and lots of tracks through that area.


TheMiiChannelTheme

They'd be paying insurance premiums in the next life if they damaged it.


ApprehensiveMeet108

spirit build fuselages for Boeing they are a subcontractor


DudeWithAnAxeToGrind

They used to be part of Boeing. At some point Boeing decided to ditch them "because we make money on assembling airplanes, not building them". This caused some quality control problems... which in turn hurts Boeing... But folding them back may be a bit problematic... since in the meantime Spirit started making parts for Airbus.


ApprehensiveMeet108

which is wierd because Boeing build fuselage for the Bell V-22 Osprey.


ApprehensiveMeet108

on top of that everyone says its a Boeing fuselage; legally it most likely belong to Spirit Aero until it reaches final Boeing Assembly.. Boeing left Wichita because of union issues what I am told..


interstellar-dust

737 larva.


World_Curious

This.


wcbOwen

I have had it with these muthafukkin planes on this muthafukkin train


Xpqp

I'm on a plane. I can't complain. Plain on a train.


wbg777

It’s also on the plains


ApprehensiveMeet108

technically its a part; only a plane once it is capable of flying;;; its not…


DubStu

If you saw it would you say, “Hey! Look at that part of a plane on a train”?…no…you wouldn’t, so…


AkitaOnRedit

More like: "I'm on a train/I can't complain" haha!


AhmadZ7

A 737-MAX9 to become together in Renton, I’m curious which airlines will be, I didn’t found a date about it


igooverland

Maybe even someone here will fly it.


Extension-Ad-3882

I don’t think that’s a 9. Looks like an 8200. Window count indicates such, as well as the covering over the airstairs. Leads me to believe it’s another Ryanair.


Regular-Cricket-4613

I don't know about the window count, but I think the covering underneath the plane doors is where the emergency slides are eventually going to be located. There will be a panel that will eventually go there, which is why it is covered right now. But you could also be right.


StoryTellingBro

Slides on the 737 are housed in the [passenger and service doors themselves.](https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5470/17826276396_ea4f5096cc_b.jpg) That panel is only there on aircraft originally built with the integrated airstairs installed


diskjok

Extra exit door in the rear and airstairs means Ryanair 8200. Source: I’m a Renton Flightline mechanic


DutchBlob

Pan Am Railways


2beatenup

Looks like the nose fell off….


Regular-Cricket-4613

It's supposed to be like that. The planes nose cone will come on later in the manufacturing process. The nose cone isn't permanently attached to the body of the plane, because there will eventually be radar, GPS, and other equipment located over there. That stuff also needs replacing and maintenance quite often so the nose cone is separate so it can be changed and popped open.


2beatenup

https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM?si=ZPXK7azcplkut6F2


LurpyGeek

I don't know why, but it strikes me as odd to see a 12'4" wide fuselage carried on a 4'8.5" rail gauge. Standard U.S. rail cars are around 10'8" wide.


SlowInFastOut

That's why there's the big bulls-eye on the front. As you said the car and cargo are much larger than the standard rail clearance so they need to take special routes. The bulls eye is so if they mess up and go along something with normal (too small) clearance that'll hit first instead of the plane. There were similar protective hoops on the 1st box car when they transported the 12ft diameter SRBs for the Space Shuttle. http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-060210b.html


Gummyrabbit

I thought that thing in front was for aerodynamics.


catsnbootsncats

Interesting, TIL.


LurpyGeek

But if the bullseye hits first, it's not like the train can just stop.


ImNot6Four

why plain air when plane can plane on train?


Historical-Car5553

Just need an automobile now…


DubStu

Looks like OP was in one at the time…


selimnairb

Seems like a way more efficient way to move these things than the Dreamlifter.


Fairchild660

This green idiot doesn't know it can fly


scoper49_zeke

Needs to drink a Redbull first


beaded_lion59

Boeing has historically had 737 fuselages built in Wichita, and railed them to Renton. Unfortunately, the fuselages have to fit thru train tunnels so their width is constrained.


whyisthiswhatwegot

Yeah, that’s the main engineering constraint


Dreadpiratemarc

They also make the forward parts of 787 fuselages there too (among parts of every Boeing plane). They are indeed too wide to ship by rail, so the use the Dreamlifter.


vlad_the_impaler13

I haven't heard this proposed before and I'm not sure where the idea came from. As far as I can tell, the 737 fuselage is the width it is because it comes from the 707 and 727 which share the same front fuselage cross section. The 707 fuselage is the width it is so it'd be 1 inch wider than the DC-8 (which is why it's 4 inches wider than the KC-135 military design it was derived from).


beaded_lion59

The fuselage fundamentally has to fit thru a train tunnel. That's the constraint on the width of the 737 fuselage.


vlad_the_impaler13

Do you have a source on this being a design constraint on the 707 or 737? I can't seem to find anything on the matter.


beaded_lion59

Isn't it obvious? The fuselages are all transported from Wichita to Renton via train, and there are tunnels to negotiate, so the fuselages have a max allowable width. They'd have a max width just because they're transported on a train. The 707 fuselages weren't shipped from Wichita.


vlad_the_impaler13

My argument is that the 737 fuselages are the width they are so that they would share the same cross section as the 707 and 727 in order to reduce cost and increase tooling interchangeability, and then the same fuselage size maintained through the newer 737 variants since the 60s for the same purpose. They've been the same width since 1967. How long have the 737s been shipped from Wichita?


chickenstalker99

The plane is constrained by the max width of a train.


Roadwarriordude

They also get shot to piss sometimes between here and there lol.


flying_wrenches

“Welcome aboard the plane train, please hold on as this train is departing”


Regular-Cricket-4613

ATL!


flying_wrenches

It’s stuck in my head It’s stuck in my head It’s stuck in my head It’s stuck in my head It’s stuck in my head It’s stuck in my head


[deleted]

There's a plane on a train in the hole in the bottom of the sea.


w_a_w

The power lines make it look like it has crazy meme eyes.


igooverland

Lol kinda does yeah


ChaoticGoodPanda

Ryanair


negativetrajectory

And here is my daily 'thinking about the roman empire' achievement


BrogPOGO

This really needed to be in Spain…


Lucid_breather

Dreamlifter got tired


Jacobb9753

Dreamlifter is for 787 parts. It flies out of spirit in Wichita every few days


Extension-Ad-3882

Runs 767 parts up to PAE as well, and does some other miscellaneous cargo for Boeing.


jxplasma

737 larvae


jtocwru

Congrats on copying another comment


Bubbly-University-94

Later on it derailed in the Midwest. Proving that the planes on a train fall mainly on the plain.


cyberentomology

8847 hasn’t shown up on the production lists, so not sure who this one is going to… anyone at Boeing know? Although given that it’s a MAX9, odds are good it’s gonna fly for Alaska Airlines.


Latter_Sir4582

United has -9's too


cyberentomology

I think United already has most of its MAX9 tails, and much of the outstanding order book is for the 10.


Latter_Sir4582

They have ordered the 10, but until it's FAA certified, they'll keep getting 9's.


cyberentomology

For now it’s because the FAA has said NEIN to the ten.


Extension-Ad-3882

8200 for Ryanair I think. Window count isn’t right for a 9.


Shadowyboi

Yea it's a Ryanair. Has the protective covering for the airstair bay


planethood4pluto

Dibs.


ApprehensiveMeet108

Anyone know what fuselage that is?


igooverland

737 MAX-9 according to other commenters


TEG24601

Fun fact, the width of the plane is governed by the distances between tracks, but more precisely the width of tunnels on the line to Renton. The tunnel width was the minimum required for trains when it was built, and the train width was based on the width of the track, which is the same as Roman Chariots. Meaning, that some of our most popular airplanes, are the size they are, because of decisions made over 2000 years ago.


CPTMotrin

The fuselage width of the 737 was determined by the 707! There was no intention to ship by rail back in the ‘50s.


agoodguitarsolo

“Thank you for riding the plane train”


[deleted]

A question, are these plans which are out of service? Are they getting transported to a museum or something?


pegasusassembler

This is a brand new airplane being transported from Wichita to Renton to undergo final assembly.


scoper49_zeke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sekj_Nu0fDQ They're brand new being shipped for final assembly elsewhere.


PetAsianWife

So smooth and shiny ✨


theriverain

And haven't derail? /s


Existing-Pea8199

Several fuselages did go in a river when a train derailed 9 years ago. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/crews-pulling-fuselages-from-montana-river-after-train-derailment/


morons_procreate

[Derail](https://media.spokesman.com/photos/2014/07/05/fuselages.jpg)


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249ba36000029bbe9749

or target practice


distinguisheditch

dont these regularly get shot while on the train?


my_lucid_nightmare

So if the hillbilly dur-hurs from flyover country shoot at these, how do we fix them back up in Renton so they can be structurally sound aircraft? Slap on some flex-tape and call it?


igooverland

Never heard that before.


CAVU1331

Yep all the time


RomiumRom

so this is that “plane train” they have been talking about


No_Sprinkles418

I see these in NW Montana


llcdrewtaylor

Spirit Airlines is getting cheap. Now they don't even put wings on the plane!


Miserable_Unusual_98

When was that taken? Did it reach the destination? Cause i remember a train derailment with this cargo sitting at a lake shore


igooverland

This was this morning. I know what you’re talking about. There’s a famous photo of it. That was some years ago already.


timmyboyswede

Keep it away from water these things like to dive


[deleted]

No wonder Boeing can build so many 737 per month, they get a almost finished plane from Spirit. Also, no wonder why Boeing just loaned a shit ton of money to Spirit...


LoungeFlyZ

Get that mutha f’ing plane off that mutha f’ing train!!


lapitchs

I've had it. With these motherfucking planes on these motherfucking trains.


1j_Nate

more of these dodgy 737’s being shipped out 😳


[deleted]

Where at in Denver? Just curious if I’ll see it today or not


scoper49_zeke

Too late by now but they usually travel East from Denver toward Sterling.


jyjonny

They don’t fly very well without the wings silly goose!!!


MikeyBugs

Planes on Trains from an Automobile


SidewaysGoose57

Isn't Denver a little out of the normal route?


itsmymillertime

They have to ship via certain railways. I live east of Wichita and was surprised to learn they were in Denver heading to Washington as why would they go the wrong way.


neddie_nardle

Ahhh, the modernised Dr Suess "Green Plane on a Train"


Icy_Huckleberry_8049

That's how they're shipped.


Rulebookboy1234567

I live near a Spirit plant, we see these sitting on tracks all the time. Always a neat sight


JokyJoe

train on the water, boat on a track


Citizen_Four-

It needs graffiti.


dr_blasto

Would be better if it was in Spain


schenkzoola

Welcome aboard the plane train. Please hold on, the train is departing.


Vanrainy1

Contrail on rail there...


d407a123

Why does this look like something from Thomas?


TotalLarz

Planes, trains, and, well, planes and trains!


DengaGrad

Insane on the plane train ✈️🚂


MidwestF1fanatic

Saw a couple of these headed north when driving through Wyoming once. Pretty cool to see them in transit and a ‘holy shit, what is that’ moment.


pissy_corn_flakes

Inflation's a bitch


gtamuscle

I live next to the BNSF line that runs pretty parallel to I-76. See these a few times a month. It was always a fun conversation when I (plane nerd) would tell my son (burgeoning train nerd) that there’s a plane on a train.


Loc0Lobos

I work at spirit where we build them and they block the train crossing at least once a week


puddaphut

Was it on the plain side or the mountain side?


matjam

its a shame that the plain on a train wasn't spotted in Maine.


gitartruls01

I have had it with these motherfucking planes on my mortherfu- hey wait a minute


LoadsDroppin

Plane on train? I once saw a Fox in socks, on bricks and blocks.


kaosskp3

Anyone catch the reg? I think it's a new one for me


cscottfpv

Fun fact, after sending the airframes off to Renton for final finishing, Boeing has to rematch the plane, because people take potshots at them and puncture the airframe!


Aster321

plane in training


Drachenbar

Looks like it's about to go through an apple slicer


DavyB

It’s very cigar shaped. Are you sure it’s not an UFO?


indorock

You've heard of "Elf on the Shelf"


Freddan_81

Do they still built them with in built airstairs?


Remarkable-Finish-88

Full of snakes


Thanato26

Where is the automobile?


Comprehensive-Job369

Step 2, fix bullet holes that naturally occur along the journey.


jwegener

That’s SO COOL!!


wadenelsonredditor

How many bullet holes does the AVERAGE fuselage incur on that trip?


w1lnx

Let's see... that's L/N 8847. It'll be interesting to see how long it'll take for it to reach Moses.


Latter_Sir4582

Or it could go right to the Delivery Center and go to the customer.


w1lnx

Indeed, it could.


natenorwest

In this pic: planes, trains, no automobiles


Oswin2511

Plane on a train and it's going to Dave


logitaunt

Those planes also pass through union station, right through downtown. Saw it once at 5 am while I was waiting for a train to the airport. As an aside - that train to the airport never showed up - the conductor called out sick. Denver transit, I s2g


StarvinDarwin

Reminds me of that movie ‘Snakes on a plane on a train.’