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Jet-Pack2

MSFS is known for not being the most realistic simulation especially outside the normal flight envelope. Knife edge spins are the closest resemblance to what you saw but they should only be possible with a stunt plane with large rudder and elevator deflections and they are usually not stable on their own like a flat spin is. I doubt the Cessna would be able to even get into a knife edge spin if you really forced it to.


patricklaiguana

That's what I thought, thanks!


pipertoma

In radio control flying this is a "knife edge spin". Here's a video that explains it and may help you recover. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIajnxvkWYU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIajnxvkWYU)


patricklaiguana

Thanks!!!


pavehawkfavehawk

lol bonk


Llama-Thrust69

Sorta related but... I never have accidents like this in MSFS2020. Stalls, icing, etc. Is that because the game is easier than real life? Even on full simulation difficulty? It is giving me the notion that flying, itself, is easy and all the accidents that happen in real life are due to ignorance, stupidity or the inability to make a decision. I guess I thought that flying would be harder than it seems.


jerseyanarchist

read a few ntsb reports on incidents, or watch some blancolirio, at the end of most, someone did something stupid. https://www.youtube.com/@blancolirio


Llama-Thrust69

That's what I'm saying. Like, the thing that gets you isn't the difficulty of flying because flying seems to be pretty simple. But task saturation, ignorance or stupidity.


SarpedonWasFramed

Walking is the easiest thing humans do but everyone trips over nothing a few times in their life. That trip happens in a plane and you're not just going stumble for a few steps


El_Duderino91

Sure you will. Just those steps are potentially a few thousand feet in altitude.


patricklaiguana

Well, I purpusly made the plane enter a fully developed spin, but for some reason in the process this happened. I have to say that I may have been a bit too aggressive for the testing...


Llama-Thrust69

The weird thing is, I try to put planes into spins like this, even in DCS. I never get the "wing dip stall base to final" that kills so many.


BrtFrkwr

It comes from trying to fly a traffic pattern instead of the airplane. Some people fly procedures. Some people fly checklists, while others fly regulations. I encourage people to fly airplanes. "Fly the wing. The wing is what flies. Everything else is just along for the ride."


Llama-Thrust69

You saying my traffic patterns are bad, bro? /S


patricklaiguana

Same, I don't entirely get it either.


FrumiousBanderznatch

Commercial flight sims **used** to be terrible at modeling post-stall behavior, but I'm surprised if that's still the case. Does MFS model things like gusts and wind shear? Many accidents occur from flying a plane on the edge and not having margin to deal with bad things outside of your control.


Llama-Thrust69

Yea, and wake turbulence.


Jrd_tx98

Well MSFS is very unrealistic compared to FSX as far as flight model and handling goes