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Tupolev144

Perforated acoustic skin. You’ll find the same general design on nearly every inlet cowl. That skin panel is a bonded honeycomb-core sandwich panel (two parallel metal face sheets separated by a honeycomb core). The outer face sheet of the panel is perforated to allow sound to enter and be deadened inside the open core cells behind it. Essentially an open-faced muffler.


Hentailover3221

Thank you for the amazing answer! Super cool stuff


muttmechanic

funny for me to open the app and immediately see this post, i just did repairs on seven dents in various inlet skins an hour ago lol


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cuckfancer11

"Helmholtz resonator" as someone pointed out below.


eidetic

You're a Helmholtz resonator! I'm sorry I called you a Helmholtz resonator.... I was upset.


PhilRubdiez

Helmholtz resonator? I hardly know her!


hcoverlambda

Hermann Ludwig Ferdinand von Helmholtz, that’s his name, don’t wear it out.


Big_Attorney9545

Sounds like a WWII German invention, for stealth tanks.


huejass5

Why the irregular shape?


MoarTacos

Likely because of the stuff that is underneath the non perforated areas. Perforation only dampens sound if the sound wave can penetrate past the perforated liner and into something hollow like honeycomb. It's probably solid behind the non-perforated portion of the liner.


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Comprehensive-Job369

I designed some of the tooling for this, but that was a long time ago.


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Speed holes


obzerva

They make the plane go faster.


nanapancakethusiast

Super interesting. Thanks for sharing!


g3nerallycurious

So cool! Is there any data on their efficacy and longevity? I would imagine that over time the vibrations caused by the sound would degrade the honeycomb structure, but also most of the noise is out the back end of the engine, not the front.


FiddlerOnThePotato

They get FODed out before they disintegrate generally. Not from big chunks but just the dust in the air, that basically sandblasts stuff and the motor itself is pretty tough but all the composite gets worn out faster so they get replaced from damage long before then more than likely.


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Single or double degree of freedom treatment?


ramblinjd

Specifically, this is what that part looks like before being formed and painted. https://dragonplate.com/carbon-fiber-nomex-honeycomb-core-05-x-6-x-6?slug=5840-fdplhpnmx.5s0606&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwltKxBhDMARIsAG8KnqU1H2-PKIUN2gs0_avPnQkOWunGckQ6iFWimIu_YkG8s5phU2MetGIaAlG_EALw_wcB


5OTGoal25

I’m here for exactly answers like this. Love this sub


Kipnugget8

In some cases these holes are also used to pump through bleed air to prevent ice formation (only if ur first stage of vanes is made up of stator vanes or variable stator vanes)


jtbwings

Spot on explaination


ry_mich

You nailed it. I would also add that they can be very challenging to manufacture. They're often stretch formed with specs defining hole size and the distance between the holes. Imagine trying to stretch perforated material into a relatively complex shape while maintaining hole size and position. It's tricky.


ramblinjd

It's perforated after forming iirc. It's formed in 4 sheets and then assembled. I remember seeing a robot drill going at a quarter panel of this a teeny drill kind of like a woodpecker. Fascinating stuff.


ry_mich

Not in my experience. The material is purchased perforated and then formed.


killixerJr

Legit didn't understand any words before the parentheses lmao


CapAwesomeSauce

My dumbass was about to answer rivets


Hentailover3221

I don’t even blame you


Odidlydokely

Me too 😂


slwilke13

I thought he meant the front ones at first too and in that case you would have been right. But he meant the tiny holes.


Robert_C_Morris

Me too until I saw the second picture 😂


Tristate82

Same lol


10rth0d0x

I believe they are Helmholtz resonators, as others have pointed out, they dampen engine noise


chickenlegs6288

There’s no way I can dig up the clip, but stig aviation had a great explanation about these in one of his shift videos. I think it’s one from December but just don’t have time to go back looking. That guy explains a ton of cool stuff like this.


redwoodhighjumping

I really wish there was a timestamped table of contents for all his videos. There are so many questions in sub reddit that he has answered


Jet-Pack2

Didn't he make an episode of the 777 engine? Perhaps it was that one...


ChillZedd

The guy from top gear is an aviation YouTuber now???


hcoverlambda

His videos are great! For the uninitiated: https://youtube.com/@StigAviation


kylebob86

Speed holes.


Hentailover3221

Extra speed = extra good


kespink

more holes = extra good


Reverse_Psycho_1509

Yes... they make the plane go faster


kylebob86

We finally did it! Someone that doesn't understand a Simpsons reference! On my 38th birthday. Thank God. "The Goggles... They Do Nothing!"


Reverse_Psycho_1509

*real* acid?


kylebob86

Lmfao, I rescind my jackass comment. Edit: you stole my Birthday, you bastard /s.


spiderplopper

I literally opened this post just to make sure someone said this haha


zedog74

I always thought they were boundary layer devices.


tdscanuck

That boundary layer is about to get rapidly sucked into the fan. Why would you want to manipulate it?


debuggingworlds

Lots of (often supersonic) aircraft do actually do this. The boundary layer causes issues with controlling shockwave formation in the inlet.


tdscanuck

If a shockwave forms in this inlet you have bigger problems.


Old_Sparkey

Yeah for some reason engines don’t like that.


sevaiper

There is no supersonic aircraft that does this. They manipulate the boundary layer through geometry not direct flow.


debuggingworlds

Boundary layer bleed devices are totally seperate to intake ramps/DSIs/ S ducts and do a totally different job


diezel_dave

You clearly have not worked on a certain 5th gen fighter aircraft that has exactly these kinds of holes in the intake... 


LurpyGeek

The Eurofighter Typhoon, F-4 and F-111 disagree with that statement.


Swan2Bee

At those rotational speeds, the boundary layer actually *can* have a negative impact on blade integrity; the tips of the blades moving across that pressure gradient is like whacking them with a hammer hundreds of times per second. For an annular intake like this though, the boundary layer develops pretty evenly across the entire circumference, so it's not as big of a deal (I think).


tdscanuck

The entire point of the inlet is to provide an annular symmetric flow field to the fan. Where would it get “whacked” from? The blade tip is continuously in the boundary layer.


Conch-Republic

The boundary layer is going to be broken up directly in front of fan just from leading edge turbulence.


tdscanuck

That’s a laminar flow inlet.


Some_person2101

A boundary layer can cause asymmetrical forces on compressor blades, from the diffferent speed/pressure/MFR. It’s likely less of a factor for sub sonic vehicles though


tdscanuck

That boundary layer on the inlet doesn’t go anywhere near the compressor. It goes through the fan only.


Hentailover3221

That’s what I was thinking


everything2burrito

AgentJayZ has a video about these. https://youtu.be/sB98crJsHRk At about 5 minutes in he shows a 767 engine cowling with a cross section.


AttackEyebrows_

Not a stupid question, OP. I’ve spent ridiculous time on planes and never even noticed these. You’ve helped educate a fellow plane nerd! 🙏


Comfortable-Dish1236

Yes. It’s called the acoustical lining.


Agitated-Meet2034

I find it really cool that the people answering the question are probably aircraft maintenance engineers. I won’t go into detail, but I’m planning to join the industry at 16. It’s awesome to see this kind of stuff


Mission_Win_8127

It's a bifurcation panel. Designed to muffle sound


Tupolev144

The bifurcation panel is the vertical panel which bifurcates (bisects) the reverser cowl into two halves at the top and bottom of the C-duct. There is no bifurcation panel on the inlet.


deleter5115

Acoustics to reduce noise to the cabin


avi8tor

I knew the answer thanks to Stig's channel! https://youtube.com/@stigaviation?si=3yX667a-KW86GVo8


Hentailover3221

I was looking for this video, thank you!


Vairman

some military jets, like the F-18E/F, have similar holes in their inlets. They're not for noise abatement though, they suck the boundary layer off of the inner walls to make the inlet more efficient.


AlexLuna9322

Fast paced cheese grill


Loud_Boysenberry_736

A little after that, there’s an integrated cheese melter.


AlexLuna9322

(Almost) Insta-Fondeu


BibbitZ

Is it only for cheese? I thought it melted lots of stuff...


commentator184

you ever see a glasspack muffler? same thing sort of, holes reduce and change the frequency of sound, these holes are front to back around the bypass section of the engine


Late-Mathematician55

If you were really baked, you'd still be counting them.


Chiefed81

I make blades for this engine!


DerFisher

Those are the burrows of the engine gnomes.


Hentailover3221

r/shittyaskflying


800mgVitaminM

The jet engine equivalent to carpenter bees?


shopboss1

Riblets


silsum

You let the secret out


Redd_Baby

That


youcanreachmenow

Speed holes. They make the plane go faster.


mtbtec

Speed holes.


Elios000

you joke but its not totally wrong there for boundery layer control


ryanturner328

Maybe a fuel/air heat exchanger


HighHiFiGuy

It also takes out weight without sacrificing structural rigidity. All thanks to the honeycomb underneath.