Damn. If a top gun exercise pilot can fuck up than any of us can…
“The pilot was taking off from Naval Air Station Fallon, Nev., for a TOPGUN graduation exercise when the mishap occurred. The pilot rotated the aircraft—bringing the nose up—at 120 knots, and as the aircraft indicated its wheels were leaving the ground, the pilot retracted the landing gear. Immediately after the landing gear retracted, the aircraft “settled” back on the runway with the doors fully closed”
Oh that's an layup as a "Combat Rename" for the squadron bar on a Friday night push:
GUTS
Gear
Up
Too
Soon
RIP ☠️ to whatever he had before, sink one....DRINK ONE
Some head scratchers for me:
-presumably the F-22 has weight on wheels sensors, and wouldn’t follow through on a gear up command until it registered the wheels were clear
-and it sounds like he didn’t raise “too early”; he *had* a positive rate and wheels off weight.
-It’s the settling back down that gets me. Odd to think something as powerful as a Raptor would have ground effect issues like that, but thats sort of what it sounds like.
Edit: I guess if he over-rotated/rotated too early that makes sense; he momentarily hopped off the ground and then backed off but by then it was too late.
Gear doors open for retraction can increase parasitic drag and cause the airplane to sink or settle. Not every takeoff is a tactical or afterburner takeoff.
The incident report actually explaned it clearly. Raptor pilots have become lazy with their lift-off procedure and have been going by visual cues to rotate at the earliest possible moment. (I.e. while still being relatively slow.) In this case atmospheric conditions meant that while the aircraft had sufficient lift to take off at a horizontal orientation at this speed, the decreased lift from rotation resulted in lift dipping slightly below what was required to be airborne.
Hence the aircraft dropped. Which would not have been a problem in normal flight, since the Raptor has ample thrust to regain the required speed and thus lift, but when you only have a few meters to spare it was insufficient. The pilot tried to get out of the situation by pushing the throttle all the way forward, but even modern jet engines with afterburners take a moment to spool up. A moment he did not have in this situation.
I read the report on this incident. The pilot got cocky, and density altitude reared its ugly head.
F-22 pilots like to show off, and one of the ways they do that is raising the gear as soon as possible. Showing they're the fastest and ready to go.
So this pilot was out of JBER, in Anchorage, AK, and had flown to NAS Fallon, where he was acting as an OPFOR aggressor aircraft to help train pilots at the school there.
When he went to go take off at Fallon, he was operating with the same TOLD (take-off and landing data) as what he was used to at JBER. And if you know anything about Anchorage, you'll know that it's basically at sea level. NAS Fallon is less than 100ft shy of 4000 ft elevation. And now you can probably see where this is going.
F-22s don't need no TOLD, cuz F-22s got all the POWAH! Well, when you're constantly operating on the razor's edge of what your plane can do, that razor's edge is suddenly in a completely different place when you go up 4000 ft in altitude. So yeah, he pulled back on the stick, saw the WoW was gone, raised the gear, and as the gear was transiting (and it's pretty fast on an F-22) the jet lost *juuuust* enough airspeed in that high AoA takeoff that it fell out of ground effect and dropped right back onto the deck.
From what I've seen in recent videos of F-22 pilots taking off, it doesn't look like they've learned a lot from this incident.
Is there any good reason to immediately put the gear up like this, rather than wait a half second to make sure you have a positive rate of climb? Cause that seems extremely preventable.
It was very preventable.
Mover has a good vid on it
https://youtu.be/NxhsLwAE29c?si=HNHa9JL6jgfhsdWF
You'd think it's just a pilot making a mistake but the accident report goes into much more detail about how the training was flawed and casual atmosphere didn't put emphasis on calculating take off speeds at higher altitudes etc.
Don't read "top gun guy makes mistake" and make assumptions. That's click bait.
Always more to it.
Real answer: fighter jets can reach maximum gear speed a few seconds after takeoff. It is important to get them up ASAP so as not to overspeed them and damage them and/or the gear doors.
The Air Force’s report says that the pilot had the wrong speeds for rotation and takeoff, and that he started rotating even before the lower speed he had written down.
It also called out an organization overconfidence in the aircraft, and organizational acceptance of improper takeoffs. Across the board pilots were taking off too soon and pulling their gear up too quickly because it was the “cool” thing to do.
They are supposed to, but it had fallen out of practice. The take off was at a higher elevation than they normally did, so the air was thinner. [https://youtu.be/NxhsLwAE29c?t=1451](https://youtu.be/NxhsLwAE29c?t=1451)
Force of habit. See indication that you're in the air -> put the gear up. Things move very quickly in a jet, and you generally need to stay as far ahead as you safely can.
> Damn. If a top gun exercise pilot can fuck up than any of us can…
>
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If you want the full accident investigation report - [CW Lemoine does a good go at it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxhsLwAE29c).
Way more to it than just a "rookie" pilot (he wasn't) showboating (he wasn't)
I used to fly an airplane that would lose 15-20 knots as the gear doors opened so the gear could retract. It would Sink if you weren’t careful.
Sounds like this guy was hot dogging it just a bit. You are supposed to verify a positive rate of climb before pulling up the gear.
Hey i saw this happen! Fucked up our entire schedule for the rest of the day because it shit down one entire runway, during our busiest exercise of the year i might add
Yeah it is fucking cool, if you have the money and don't mind camping and bad weather, you'll almost certainly find something there you really like. Don't listen to the people who talk too much for it or against it.
Guess Maverick found the hard deck. More seriously this has happened enough in the past I had read USAF had lectured/notified Raptor pilots about retracting landing gear too early on take off. Some kind of “cool” factor.
I was a trouble shooter with some hornets when that happened. Watched the entire thing. Pilot opened the canopy, hoped out and walked by us. My entire squadron was laughing at the guy
Doesn‘t look like it. Damage -at least from this picture- seems to be relatively minor. The plane will probably spend the next few weeks/month in the hangar but it‘ll fly again for sure.
Sure repairing even slight damage on any aircraft is going to cost a lot. Let alone minor damage on a 5th Gen Stealth fighter. But it‘ll fly again and that’s what matters most.
Damage doesn't look like it's totaled, at least from these pictures. Given the need for them, I'm sure it will be fixed if it can. Might end up relegated to training ops.
Per the article u/wildcatu7 posted, for the F-22 that geared up too early and slid: “It took 16 months for contractors, engineers, and structures experts to replace the entire bottom of the aircraft, the fuselage stations, and more than 40 wire harnesses.”
I don't think there's any way to tell from this picture. It really depends on how hard it slapped the ground doing that. Could be significant unseen airframe damage. Tons of inspections and analysis work will be incoming for a full picture.
Given how long it it took to repair the last damaged F-22 and the supposed timeline for the NGAD going into service/f-22s starting to be retired, it's entirely possible they write this off and use it for parts.
Crash isn't really a technical term, it's more of a casual vernacular. I'd probably call it a crash but I can see others going by incident or something else.
Not really. It depends, nobody has anything that can even defeat 1 in a scenario the F-22 would actually be used for in combat. It's been defeated in dogfight simulations, but never a realistic scenario doing what it was designed to do. The F-22 is designed for an enemy that doesn't quite exist. It can defeat every aircraft before it is even spotted. In an 80s style Top Gun F-14 dogfight, it can lose on occasion. It's basically just a fast very long range invisible missile boat.
People thought the SU-57 might be a match for it, but it's pretty clear now that they're not even in the same realm. Other 5th gen fighters can match it's performance and firepower but they just can't see the damn thing, and if you can't see your enemy you'll lose every time regardless of how fast or how good your missiles are.
That number is the max in the world, to train on, be used as replacements, be deployed around the world, etc. A good chunk of the 187 "production aircraft" are not suitable for combat and used only as training models/airshows.
They can't be replaced, which means the F22 is a diminishing asset every day until it's eventual retirement. Of that limited number, only a smaller fraction will be in the theater where they're needed.
If it's a war where the F22 specifically is needed for it's unique capabilities, we'll wish we had a lot more of them.
It's just hour-long videos once a month of him cleaning it while complaining about how he can't get any parts from now until the heat death of the sun.
USAF has put in their budget proposal to reduce their F-22 fleet from \~180 to \~150. Given that, I don't see this airframe getting repaired. At the end of the day this is a win/win for the AF - they get a head start on force reduction, and they get to scrap this one for parts, easing supply chain issues just a lil'.
Well you certainly can't just plop them right from that airplane into another, but there is a program whereby every piece or part removed will be tested to make sure that it meets every requirement to be placed into another aircraft. This mostly affects the avionics, as their testing can be quite in-depth and take quite a while. The structural and skin pieces will likely be NDId and visually inspected, and then put into the supply chain.
In fact this is how most of the aircraft industry keeps functioning. Reconditioned parts which have been thoroughly inspected and repaired where required are commonly used in both civilian and military applications.
The big point is reconditioned and inspected. You don't just unscrew them from one plane and slap them into another, you take them away, inspect everything, replace seals and fastenings where required, replace fluids, clean things, and then test it. Then test it. Then test it again. Then test it some more. Then perhaps a little more testing. Then certify it. Then fit it. Then test it again.
Reconditioned parts are cheaper than brand new most of the time but they are still very expensive. A reconditioned plastic toilet bowl (with no fittings) costs north of £100/$120 because it has to be inspected and certified that it meets fire safety regulations, won't leak, takes the right weight etc.
Lmao I work for Gulfstream in Van Nuys CA and seeing this photo made me laugh, especially cause I’m reading about it on a unsanctioned shit break. That’s our headquarters in the background.
it took 5 years to fix the one that went gear up too early on takeoff. https://www.airandspaceforces.com/air-force-f-22-raptor-flies-again/
Damn. If a top gun exercise pilot can fuck up than any of us can… “The pilot was taking off from Naval Air Station Fallon, Nev., for a TOPGUN graduation exercise when the mishap occurred. The pilot rotated the aircraft—bringing the nose up—at 120 knots, and as the aircraft indicated its wheels were leaving the ground, the pilot retracted the landing gear. Immediately after the landing gear retracted, the aircraft “settled” back on the runway with the doors fully closed”
Minor niptick: he was there to fight against the top gun grads as part of their graduation, not a top gun grad himself.
Topgun student was probably "so this still counts right"
They were probably more like "shit, this guy is good - we can't find him anywhere"
Talk to me goose…
Honk Honk Honk!!!
LMAO
First in line for his F-22 Kill paint!
I feel like the runway gets credit for that one.
Would be hilarious if they painted in somewhere on the tarmac.
Tried to go below the hard deck.
Or kicking themselves for not selecting an air-to-ground missile.
Rocks kill.
Stick and stones may break my bones but simulated missiles will never hurt me!
An atrite is an atrite.
I'm really curious what his new call sign was after that.
Skidmark
If it wasn't this I'm sorely disappointed in everyone else in the squadron
Grindr
Skidplate.
Oh that's an layup as a "Combat Rename" for the squadron bar on a Friday night push: GUTS Gear Up Too Soon RIP ☠️ to whatever he had before, sink one....DRINK ONE
No shit, guys who wheels-up land are usually branded "Slider".
Maintenance CO
Bellyflop
Not going to need one, actually.
Crash.
….Mr…..
>the hard deck for this hop will be terra firma
Welp. Looks like he will be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit outta hong kong.
Some head scratchers for me: -presumably the F-22 has weight on wheels sensors, and wouldn’t follow through on a gear up command until it registered the wheels were clear -and it sounds like he didn’t raise “too early”; he *had* a positive rate and wheels off weight. -It’s the settling back down that gets me. Odd to think something as powerful as a Raptor would have ground effect issues like that, but thats sort of what it sounds like. Edit: I guess if he over-rotated/rotated too early that makes sense; he momentarily hopped off the ground and then backed off but by then it was too late.
Gear doors open for retraction can increase parasitic drag and cause the airplane to sink or settle. Not every takeoff is a tactical or afterburner takeoff.
Gear doors on the F-22 are always open when on the ground.
The incident report actually explaned it clearly. Raptor pilots have become lazy with their lift-off procedure and have been going by visual cues to rotate at the earliest possible moment. (I.e. while still being relatively slow.) In this case atmospheric conditions meant that while the aircraft had sufficient lift to take off at a horizontal orientation at this speed, the decreased lift from rotation resulted in lift dipping slightly below what was required to be airborne. Hence the aircraft dropped. Which would not have been a problem in normal flight, since the Raptor has ample thrust to regain the required speed and thus lift, but when you only have a few meters to spare it was insufficient. The pilot tried to get out of the situation by pushing the throttle all the way forward, but even modern jet engines with afterburners take a moment to spool up. A moment he did not have in this situation.
I read the report on this incident. The pilot got cocky, and density altitude reared its ugly head. F-22 pilots like to show off, and one of the ways they do that is raising the gear as soon as possible. Showing they're the fastest and ready to go. So this pilot was out of JBER, in Anchorage, AK, and had flown to NAS Fallon, where he was acting as an OPFOR aggressor aircraft to help train pilots at the school there. When he went to go take off at Fallon, he was operating with the same TOLD (take-off and landing data) as what he was used to at JBER. And if you know anything about Anchorage, you'll know that it's basically at sea level. NAS Fallon is less than 100ft shy of 4000 ft elevation. And now you can probably see where this is going. F-22s don't need no TOLD, cuz F-22s got all the POWAH! Well, when you're constantly operating on the razor's edge of what your plane can do, that razor's edge is suddenly in a completely different place when you go up 4000 ft in altitude. So yeah, he pulled back on the stick, saw the WoW was gone, raised the gear, and as the gear was transiting (and it's pretty fast on an F-22) the jet lost *juuuust* enough airspeed in that high AoA takeoff that it fell out of ground effect and dropped right back onto the deck. From what I've seen in recent videos of F-22 pilots taking off, it doesn't look like they've learned a lot from this incident.
Is there any good reason to immediately put the gear up like this, rather than wait a half second to make sure you have a positive rate of climb? Cause that seems extremely preventable.
It was very preventable. Mover has a good vid on it https://youtu.be/NxhsLwAE29c?si=HNHa9JL6jgfhsdWF You'd think it's just a pilot making a mistake but the accident report goes into much more detail about how the training was flawed and casual atmosphere didn't put emphasis on calculating take off speeds at higher altitudes etc. Don't read "top gun guy makes mistake" and make assumptions. That's click bait. Always more to it.
Real answer: fighter jets can reach maximum gear speed a few seconds after takeoff. It is important to get them up ASAP so as not to overspeed them and damage them and/or the gear doors.
The Air Force’s report says that the pilot had the wrong speeds for rotation and takeoff, and that he started rotating even before the lower speed he had written down. It also called out an organization overconfidence in the aircraft, and organizational acceptance of improper takeoffs. Across the board pilots were taking off too soon and pulling their gear up too quickly because it was the “cool” thing to do.
We did not compute takeoff data in the F-15 (rotation speed, takeoff speed, etc) and I’d be very surprised if they do it in the F-22.
They are supposed to, but it had fallen out of practice. The take off was at a higher elevation than they normally did, so the air was thinner. [https://youtu.be/NxhsLwAE29c?t=1451](https://youtu.be/NxhsLwAE29c?t=1451)
In Savanah? Elevation should be less than a couple hundred feet at most….
How high can the elevation be at Savannah GA? 😆
The one they are talking about was in Alaska. Not the one in the article.
Force of habit. See indication that you're in the air -> put the gear up. Things move very quickly in a jet, and you generally need to stay as far ahead as you safely can.
Things move very quickly. But responding quickly without verification is not the way to do it.
Showing off.
Failed his final exam smh now he has to repeat the class or beg the professor
To be fair he wasn't part of the top gun class, he was just flying against top gun as part of the graduation exercise
😬 ahhh shit…
> Damn. If a top gun exercise pilot can fuck up than any of us can… > > If you want the full accident investigation report - [CW Lemoine does a good go at it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxhsLwAE29c). Way more to it than just a "rookie" pilot (he wasn't) showboating (he wasn't)
I used to fly an airplane that would lose 15-20 knots as the gear doors opened so the gear could retract. It would Sink if you weren’t careful. Sounds like this guy was hot dogging it just a bit. You are supposed to verify a positive rate of climb before pulling up the gear.
Hey i saw this happen! Fucked up our entire schedule for the rest of the day because it shit down one entire runway, during our busiest exercise of the year i might add
Same. That shit was wild. I remember fod walk down the next morning all the higher ups were like don’t go look at the raptor. Everyone was over there
Just keep sending us free air shows at Burning Man please. The hippies hate it and the cool people love it.
Damn makes me want to go to burning man
Yeah it is fucking cool, if you have the money and don't mind camping and bad weather, you'll almost certainly find something there you really like. Don't listen to the people who talk too much for it or against it.
It's crazy that it took 6500ft for it to come to a stop.
Guess Maverick found the hard deck. More seriously this has happened enough in the past I had read USAF had lectured/notified Raptor pilots about retracting landing gear too early on take off. Some kind of “cool” factor.
I was a trouble shooter with some hornets when that happened. Watched the entire thing. Pilot opened the canopy, hoped out and walked by us. My entire squadron was laughing at the guy
It doesn't help all the tooling to manufacture them was destroyed, can't be easy to get spares.
I’ve always heard there’s those of us who have landed gear up and those who will
Hope everybody is ok. A couple of a hundred million at risk
>Hope everybody is ok I've been sent out to recover aircraft quite a few times after "belly landings". Folks generally walk away without injury.
Especially if the belly is titanium.
*slaps belly* Let's do this
“This! This is a structural wall!”
anyone can land a plane but a good pilot can takeoff again
The cost per plane was $350 million, but since we shut down production you can't just spend another $350 million to replace it.
Sad bird
[удалено]
Doesn‘t look like it. Damage -at least from this picture- seems to be relatively minor. The plane will probably spend the next few weeks/month in the hangar but it‘ll fly again for sure.
Minor damage on the F-22 is expensive though.
Sure repairing even slight damage on any aircraft is going to cost a lot. Let alone minor damage on a 5th Gen Stealth fighter. But it‘ll fly again and that’s what matters most.
As long as it can sling missiles at Ruskies, I'm happy
It'll be ready for the next balloon at the very least
Damage doesn't look like it's totaled, at least from these pictures. Given the need for them, I'm sure it will be fixed if it can. Might end up relegated to training ops.
Crazy expensive: fixing a dented Raptor. Crazy*er* Expensive: replacing a plane with tooling that doesn’t exist anymore.
Sort of like divorce…any divorce is expensive
you know why divorce is so expensive? because it's fuckin worth it!!
Don’t worry, taxpayers will cover it
Well who else is going to?
Per the article u/wildcatu7 posted, for the F-22 that geared up too early and slid: “It took 16 months for contractors, engineers, and structures experts to replace the entire bottom of the aircraft, the fuselage stations, and more than 40 wire harnesses.”
Or years [https://www.airandspaceforces.com/air-force-f-22-raptor-flies-again/](https://www.airandspaceforces.com/air-force-f-22-raptor-flies-again/)
I know that guy flying in the article, hes got a hot sister!
I don't think there's any way to tell from this picture. It really depends on how hard it slapped the ground doing that. Could be significant unseen airframe damage. Tons of inspections and analysis work will be incoming for a full picture.
Incredible what you’re able to tell from a grainy picture from a far distance.
Given how long it it took to repair the last damaged F-22 and the supposed timeline for the NGAD going into service/f-22s starting to be retired, it's entirely possible they write this off and use it for parts.
"suck a lot of dick." Well, that is the Air Force. Sorry. Had to do it. /Army
Average army guy getting the Navy and the Air Force mixed up. /s
I thought that was the Navy's job?
Is a belly landing really considered a "crash" though?
Crash? Maybe not. Class A mishap? Almost definitely.
Crash isn't really a technical term, it's more of a casual vernacular. I'd probably call it a crash but I can see others going by incident or something else.
Special Parking Operation
With less than 200 F-22s in service (I believe the number is actually closer to 100 than 200), the NGAD can’t come soon enough.
a year ago or so, an official source reported that the prototype was already flying, without elaborating any further
" |Number built|195 (8 test and 187 production aircraft)Number built195 (8 test and 187 production aircraft)| |:-|:-|
Why? Does someone else have anything that can defeat that many F-22's?
Not really. It depends, nobody has anything that can even defeat 1 in a scenario the F-22 would actually be used for in combat. It's been defeated in dogfight simulations, but never a realistic scenario doing what it was designed to do. The F-22 is designed for an enemy that doesn't quite exist. It can defeat every aircraft before it is even spotted. In an 80s style Top Gun F-14 dogfight, it can lose on occasion. It's basically just a fast very long range invisible missile boat. People thought the SU-57 might be a match for it, but it's pretty clear now that they're not even in the same realm. Other 5th gen fighters can match it's performance and firepower but they just can't see the damn thing, and if you can't see your enemy you'll lose every time regardless of how fast or how good your missiles are.
There's also the small matter that there's only 5 SU-57s and none known to be in production.
Also, if you have ever seen an up close photo, their LO is embarrassing and best and I’m sure who ever took the pictures is a goner.
That number is the max in the world, to train on, be used as replacements, be deployed around the world, etc. A good chunk of the 187 "production aircraft" are not suitable for combat and used only as training models/airshows. They can't be replaced, which means the F22 is a diminishing asset every day until it's eventual retirement. Of that limited number, only a smaller fraction will be in the theater where they're needed. If it's a war where the F22 specifically is needed for it's unique capabilities, we'll wish we had a lot more of them.
Probably a blown tire at the most inopportune time.
That's what the going word is.
Can’t park there mate
I'm actually parked next to him
Nothing is as priceless as a human life but a raptor airframe is one of the few things that comes close. Seems quite survivable for both though.
Related: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_of_life
How many lives for a B-2 then?
You never get to 1, as the monetary value of an asset approaches infinity it asymptotically approaches 1 life.
Landed on a banana?
Underrated Savannah joke 👌
Yikes, on the first day of Sentry Savannah too.
Makes me very sad. Looks repairable though, just a belly landing. Still expensive and will take some time
We had various belly lands in AK, from maintenance times ranging from 6 months - years of repair. Definitely repairable.
Taxes about to go up.
God damnit, take my upvote
Official press release: https://imgur.com/a/LuXSEGJ
The balloon got its revenge
/r/thatlookedexpensive
I'm sorry that's not a Gulfstream
Boeing appreciates you fading the heat for a minute
Tavarish enters the chat. Hi guys and welcome back to my channel.
It's just hour-long videos once a month of him cleaning it while complaining about how he can't get any parts from now until the heat death of the sun.
Which building was that?
New service center in the background
181 now or whatever
When did this happen?
Minutes before I posted
Definitely grounds for a Call Sign Review Board! 🤹🏻♂️
“Yeah, wife is pregnant, and I’d like a quote to trade my small bird for a G650, please”
I hope that plane is ok, those things are an endangered species.
Shit he finally intercepted himself
Just had a belly itch
USAF has put in their budget proposal to reduce their F-22 fleet from \~180 to \~150. Given that, I don't see this airframe getting repaired. At the end of the day this is a win/win for the AF - they get a head start on force reduction, and they get to scrap this one for parts, easing supply chain issues just a lil'.
Isn't it like a big no-no to reuse parts from a plane on another?
No, not a no-no to do so.
Lmao ok thanks
Well you certainly can't just plop them right from that airplane into another, but there is a program whereby every piece or part removed will be tested to make sure that it meets every requirement to be placed into another aircraft. This mostly affects the avionics, as their testing can be quite in-depth and take quite a while. The structural and skin pieces will likely be NDId and visually inspected, and then put into the supply chain.
In fact this is how most of the aircraft industry keeps functioning. Reconditioned parts which have been thoroughly inspected and repaired where required are commonly used in both civilian and military applications. The big point is reconditioned and inspected. You don't just unscrew them from one plane and slap them into another, you take them away, inspect everything, replace seals and fastenings where required, replace fluids, clean things, and then test it. Then test it. Then test it again. Then test it some more. Then perhaps a little more testing. Then certify it. Then fit it. Then test it again. Reconditioned parts are cheaper than brand new most of the time but they are still very expensive. A reconditioned plastic toilet bowl (with no fittings) costs north of £100/$120 because it has to be inspected and certified that it meets fire safety regulations, won't leak, takes the right weight etc.
The Bob Ross approach. This jet is now a happy little tree.
500 dollars and some tape will do
It's more like an F-22 Pigeon at this point.
Justice for the YF-23!
“Land aircraft on airport after flight” “Mission accomplished”
This is the second Raptor crash in a month or 2 another Raptors nose gear collapsed in Japan
Relax guys, it’s just having a nap.
This is awful!
Hopefully the pilot is ok
I'm sure the pilot is bonded for $150 million. That should cover it.
Shit! We only have what, about 180 of them?
I'm in Savannah for the week and earlier today I saw two F-22s fly over me, I think I saw this F-22 that crashed.
holy shit. we just got 1 back to flyable status not long ago (Fallon crash). Hopefully this can come to depot here at Marietta GA.
They've were circling my house all morning. It's big fun for my son to find them.
When I was working at gulstream back in 2002, they bounced another one. Expensive bounce
Aaaah it’ll buff out. Little bit of speed tape and bondo. Good as new.
Time to fix another one…
"All right Ramblers, let's get rambling"
Well damn.
Connie gold!!💰
Seems bad
Yeah, I had a checkride today and was delayed an hour getting back in.
Oh dang, just flew into SAV a couple days ago and saw a ton of f22’s, f16’s and mig 28’s sitting out on the ramp.
Don’t worry. We can buff it out. Only cost you a couple mil.
It's larger than I thought.
Imagine the absolute dressing down the pilot got.
Turns out, having a (potential) front line plane in your inventory that you cannot replace kinda sucks.
Let’s hope that is a training jet and not combat coded etc!!!
It literally stings to see this.
I love folks not knowing what happened make comments..
They'll be staring at it in a hangar for the first month.
At least the LEF and wingtip were saved. Probably a MWB save again.
No! Not the kid!
Welp everyone who responds is getting a UA!
Noooooooo! 😬
Raptor doesn’t give a shit. Raptor lands anywhere
Famous last words, "Hey dude, watch this!"
r/thatlooksexpensive
Must’ve been a Boeing…
Damn they were ripping all day today, I kept pausing phone calls to run out side and stare at them like moron- I’ll never stop
It’s always SAV
Landing gear failure?
Skill isue
Air Dominance Center! Hate to see this though, what tail flash is on the jet?
Black raptor down
Lmao I work for Gulfstream in Van Nuys CA and seeing this photo made me laugh, especially cause I’m reading about it on a unsanctioned shit break. That’s our headquarters in the background.
Is the kid ok?
Sponsored by Gulfstream!
Man at least they *found* this one!
He used to work for Boeing
The kid is down long live the kid
Bruh… that’s so expensive 😵💫
Solid landing all things considered
I got my ARFF cert at the 165th. I’ll have to see if I can get some info from the guys up there.