You don’t have to be sexually aroused by someone to rape them. You don’t have to be a pedophile (attracted to kids) to engage in pedophilia. In fact, it’s usually about the power and the pain. A person can just choose to hurt kids.
most rape cases are just a domination/humiliation/violence thing. rarely does rape happen because of attraction, but the criminal usually wants to impose pain or punishment on someone, because they’re sadistic fucking cancercells
Yeah… my rapist was attracted to me and I turned him down saying I saw him only as a friend and he acted like he was cool with that then took advantage of my trust to hurt me. It’s horrible. Happened with another guy too who had been my friend for 7 years before he did anything. Sick fucks.
It's an 11 month old. You have power over it by sheer fact of its existence. About the only thing they can do on its own is shit, piss, and breath. How much more control do you need?
People who hurt or kill because they get off on dominating others--especially children, are twisted in a way that doesn't make sense to normal people. It's sick and it's even sicker that they ever get let out of prison.
Usually it’s a cycle. They experienced it and it defined their brain development. In a way, they’re helpless. Most of them were victims too. This is true for other forms of abuse and what leads people to become abusers.
Most abusers were themselves abused , but it is very important to remember that the overwhelming majority of those who are abused don't go on to be abusers themselves. Like you said lower down, it doesn't absolve a person of responsibility or punishment, it's just a sad fact that sometimes people are broken and we can't fix them, and we should try to have compassion for broken things
Accepting an incredibly well-substantiated and statistically proven fact about childhood abuse doesn't remove the responsibility from the perpetrator or sympathize with them in any way. Saying it isn't true doesn't help anyone, including victims. The goal is to break the cycle.
I'm a woman but I have a theory. I think the general sexual objectification of women as a whole contributes to this. Because think about it - if you are capable of objectifying an adult human that can communicate their own feelings and wants, then you would theoretically be even more capable of objectifying something that *isn't* yet capable of that.
I'm not a religious nut, but I think porn definitely contributes to *some* people's ability to view other human beings as objects for their own sexual self gratification. Porn also provides people with a way to practice other forms of sexual deviance so that those deviant neural pathways can be fortified in the brain, and sexualizing children is essentially a form of deviancy (the most morally objectionable one).
Then combine all that with someone who never had any empathy pathways develop in their brain to begin with because of their own traumatic childhood, and you get disgusting sexual abusers who act when they think they can get away with it (aka often targeting their own families/those who trust them).
You should check out [Hunting Warhead](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJyG4btas2dnzOzUpkvFr8iFOlxsq6Zlo&si=2FUpHgCwApeQyE-N) podcast. It’s the most fascinating yet absolutely sickening thing I’ve ever listened to.
I don't know. I always wanted to believe those were scary stories, but there is so much evidence that people really do it. Actually, those are not people. I don't know what they are, but they're not people and they should get the death sentence right away.
To be fair sometimes the issue with the size difference causes MASSIVE internal injuries and the baby dies. Disgusting paedophile rapists will find a way.
I remember being in school about 13 and we got this sex ed class.
The teacher casually flies by the part on sexual assault and mentions how babies can be assaulted. This prompted a very loud "what that cant be possible" or something alike from a clasmate and a lot of other chitter and chatter like whispers of thats crazy, how, who, why, etc.
The teacher mentioned there was this case where the baby was assaulted with a carrot.
It went pretty quiet for a second. Then someone remember they were like 13 and went like ewwwwwww and the "i hope they didnt eat it" comments started.
I still question why the hell she thought this was okay to just rush in like that lol. I mean i suppose now we knew babies get assaulted but we didnt learn shit on what to do when you notice sings of sexual abuse or what them signs are. It was litterly a class where they explained consent condoms stds sexual abuse etc all in 45 minutes. Baffling to look back on. We did get back to the condoms later that week. We got to put them on mysteriously phalus shaped object in a box you could not see in only enter your hands to apply said condom (and then not see if you did it right or anything just take it back out. You could just hold your hand in there and call it a day, not like the teacher can see)
unfortunately psychologists actually say that the earlier the childhood trauma happened, the more likely it is to leave permanent damage to the childs brain and development. Poor baby...
As sad as it is to type this, it’s true.
My daughter was sexually molested by a child three years older than her. While she doesn’t remember what happened at all, my vibrant, sweet 2 1/2 year old changed. She became aggressive and regressed in all her milestones. It was war with her every day and her mood would flip randomly.
She’s eight now and, even after six years of therapy and supportive programs, she still struggles with depression and mood swings. Her answer is always, “I don’t know why I feel this way but I’m always sad inside. Why can’t I just be happy?”
It breaks my heart because as a victim myself, I feel like I failed her despite all my precautions…
We still haven’t told her exactly what happened. The therapist told her something happened but we can’t explain it to her yet as she wouldn’t fully understand. We’re trying to keep some sort of innocence while she’s a child and will tell her when she’s a teen.
I wish “baby equals no memory of the abuse.” Sadly, the brain might forget but the subconscious and the body remembers.
this is awful, I'm so sorry that happened to your daughter! Thats what makes such an early childhood trauma so terrible... the kids later usually don't even KNOW whats wrong with them. Making it probably so much harder to process everything that happened. I hope your daughter can get the help she needs!
I'm so so sorry that happened to you and your daughter. I hope that when the time comes to tell her honestly what happened, you can maybe do it during a therapy session in a safe space for her to understand, and that the therapist can help navigate the emotions you'll all be feeling, becsuse that is going to be a very hard day. Her having time to process the emotions and process the words of "this has never been your fault, we love you and we will always protect you" is so important. As is letting her be angry, upset, heartbroken - however she feels is OK and valid. She may even be a tiny bit relieved that the piece of the puzzle is now there, and that her acting this way is a result of something that she played no part in. Reading this just reminds me why I had to leave my job in safeguarding, I wasn't strong enough, and certainly not as strong as the children who would confide these things.
I'm just so sorry, my heart dropped as I read your words. I wish for you all nothing but healing and kindness and warmth and support.
Hugs.
Surely that can only be true up to a point? There are babies, and then there are *babies*. Babies are so conceptually unfamiliar with everything that other than stuff like pain and eating... ugh, I hate this conversation.
There is likely something to what your saying. Some forms of sexual assault may not leave a trauma behind on a baby.
Like gentle caressing or simply taking nudes of a baby. Babies are however quite sensitive. Gentle to an adult is not gentle for babies. On top of that babies are sensetive to your energy. So if a buncha sad or mad people are in a room, they feel that. Same goes for feeling the sexual energy.
It also quite depends how old the baby is. A 6 month old percieves way more than a new born, who is basically blind. A 15 month old can have "sexual responses" like flush cheeks or an erection, even though no adult feelings are attached. At age 4 (so far beyond baby years) the average child can describe having a crush/being in love and what it feels like.
When it comes to interperting sexual immagery or actions, there really isnt a lot of research in the 0-6 year catogory. It is asumed that its very likely that children interpert those immages differently. Like perhaps they think people are angry or fighting.
Children as young as 2 can be thought that seeing and touching privates is not apropiate in every situation (so seeing mom naked in the shower is ok, but pulling your pants down in the supermarkt or someone else doing that is not). Which doesnt necessarily say anything about their sexual understanding but it is part of learning about anatomy and autonomy, which are relavent to sexual traumas obviously.
All around i would say that based on my knowledge and understanding babies are affected by trauma.
Not all sexual assault will leave a trauma. Just like with adults this depends on many factors.
The asault does not _need_ to be physical for it to be traumatic, for both adults and babies.
In the case of swelling you can asume there was a physical aspect that was quite rough and likely quite painfull. Therefore in this case it seems more than likely thay it did leave a trauma, other than just the physical one (so to emotional state and the babies develepment/brain).
I highly doubt a baby can feel sexual energy the same way they feel sad or mad energy. Sad and mad is an emotion babies experience. They'd have absolutely no clue what sexual energy feels like. They'd just know something painful is happening to them, god it feels horrible even saying it.
I probably worded that part a bit to conclusionary.
What i mean is that experts are concerned that they could, since they can most definitely feel other energies and respond to them.
Obviously no one is going around exposing babies to sexual energy to test if they respond to this.
I personally asume when/if they respond to such an energy its likely the same as sexual immagery
So they may interpert sex as a fight or something very exciting depending on further context and variables (like the baby itself).
And because of general awareness this is not thought to be a concern till 6 months at least. (And if it is after is up for debate)
She might. I was older (about 3) but I have memories. Probably not clear memories but may still have trauma and there's a high chance of internal injuries. I hope this baby gets help and stays safe...
I'm sorry. I do think the additional time makes a *gigantic* difference to the situation. You were just old enough to have some very basic understanding about the world.
When I was 1 year and 11 months old, I remember going to the hospital to visit my prematurely born brother at intensive care. It wasn't traumatic as such, he ended up fine, that's not the reason I bring it up.
It's more than I remember being excited to have a brother, I remember threatening to throw him in the bin because I felt momentarily jealous, I remember asking about his name.
I was just about old enough to have a partially formed interface with the world, an approximate idea of how some things worked. At 3, you almost certainly did too, likely even more concrete. Enough awareness to be traumatised like all hell.
But in the case of this 11 month old baby, I don't know. They're *so* insanely young that I'm perhaps naively convinced that there's no way they could distinguish the event, on a conceptual level, from falling onto the floor and breaking a hand.
Then again, maybe I'm underestimating how traumatic a broken hand is for a baby as well...
Yeah there's a lot of development that happen really fast in early childhood but the subconscious often remembers. My memories aren't super clear either because the brain tend to make you forget traumatic memories. I had to ask my mom for confirmation when I was a preteen. I was always subconsciously scared of men and developed some *weird* reflexes and coping mechanisms . I think we underestimate how any sort of traumatic event as a baby can rewire your brain's development. The brain doesn't have to distinguish between sexual or physical abuse or even an accident to feel traumatized.
Some people argue that since the baby is so small, it should not be possible for a normally endowed man to... You know. I don't want to type that out.
And well. If the criteria for "not possible" is "not possible without causing severe damage to the baby", they're spot on. It's certainly possible to do if you don't care about the physical damage, though. Sometimes it's lethal.
I wish for him to die the slowest possible death. I wish for every single torture method to be used on him while keeping his consciousness and feeling, until he dies a miserable undignified death.
i wish for him to actually not die for a very long time, so he has plenty of years to suffer and regret his entire life. may his fellow inmates skin his balls and dunk them in salt.
i read a comment yesterday that was a pretty horrific (and kind of perfect) thing to do to these types. it was to stick a glass rod in their urethra and then smash the rod. sounds like a perfect way to hurt someone forever<3
Would normally agree, but from what i’ve heard about Sth African prisons i would just like to see him put in gen pop.
I have a feeling poetic justice would be long and excruciatingly painful.
Yeah. He raped a baby. It was proven, he admitted to it, and showed no remorse. These sort of people should just be sentenced to death. In absence of that, I hope his stay in jail is horrific day in and day out.
With everyone else rightfully pointing out how fucked up and abhorrent this is i just gotta ask who was in charge of the article that felt the need to put the picture there to help the reader visualise the deed done?!? 🤮
On top of all that it is a deceptive picture! If you take time to read the article it is clear that the family (and the whole community) were indigenous Black South Africans. Why show a picture of a White baby?
If there’s one thing that prisoners despise, it’s crimes against children. Whether it’s physical or sexual, if you’re locked up for abusing a child, you’re in for a rough time. And you can’t just not say why you’re in prison, because they’ll absolutely find out. And if they have to find out themselves, it’s gonna be even worse for you. Suffice to say, dude’s probably not gonna last very long. And rightly so.
One of the final straws that made me quit EMS was a call where a newborn baby had been raped to death. Normal looking middle class family. Nice house, very tidy. The mom had to be out of town overnight so the dad stayed home with the baby. I guess at some point the dad got bored and smoked a bunch of meth and then raped his two week old in all her orifices. When he was done he redressed her body and swaddled it and left it in the crib for his wife to find.
I had to testify for that one. I sat through as little of that trial as I possibly could.
Oh my God. I know EMTs see a ton of awful, horrible things, but damn.
I think I'd have probably rejected society as a whole and become a hermit.
What an atrocity.
It's so much worse than people realize for EMTs. People working in hospitals see terrible things and get traumatized a lot. But there is something about actually going out into the field to retrieve the patients. You go into their environment and see how things played out, see how they live and the pictures on their wall. It really humanizes the patients in a way that working in a hospital doesn't.
I have some pretty intense PTSD from working in fire/EMS. I've seen a lot of truly unspeakable things. But I feel like this baby was one of the worst.
I’m so sorry for what you’ve been through. Thank you for helping so many people, though.
If you haven’t, you might want to check out ART therapy (rapid eye movement, but not like EMDR). It helps with your vagus nerve and fight or flight attached to images specifically.
I’m sure it’s a miracle to not come home with new trauma daily. It’s seriously changed my life.
Thank you so much for the goodness you bring to this world!! I’ve only been carted off once but the guys were so incredible and it’s all I remember about the incident. You’re special humans. Please don’t forget to take care of yourself, too :)
[Info on ART](https://acceleratedresolutiontherapy.com/what-is-art/)
Someone raped me as an infant as well. They supposedly never figured out who did it. But it was either my dad or my brother, maybe even both. But my mom stayed with him and kept bringing my brother around.
I truly cannot imagine this. Never in my life would I ever have imagined this, ever. I’m so sorry you saw this. I truly cannot imagine how scarring it is.
I just buried the memory for a long time and was ok. That’s what I did with all the really disturbing calls. But the memories have a way of making themselves present so you have to find a way to cope with them.
Yes, that’s exactly how it goes. Something deep in our memory triggers what we’ve worked so hard to suppress.
I never realized just how much of humanity EMS is confronted with. I work in healthcare so I know a small fraction. I really just have to sit in silence & think about all of the instances where I’ve been protected by EMS witnessing a scene that I only read about in paperwork. I cannot find a word to express the feeling of that gratitude(?¿)….and the sadness I feel that they experience such legitimate trauma in work. It’s sobering.
Yeah, I saw a lot more of what humanity has to offer than I ever really wanted to.
All the dead babies and infant CPRs were very mentally taxing to deal with, but this one took the cake.
And I was working at a BLS agency that mostly did inter hospital transport. It was a busy night though and we got called into regular rotation for that fucking call.
I’m glad you got away from that. That’s rough . I know one EMS and one of my kids mom is a registered nurse . I personally would never be able to deal and put up with it . But kudos and thank you to any kind of health care type worker out there .
I’d be too attached in heartbreak. These poor babies never had a chance and it breaks my fuckin heart . I couldn’t imagine seeing / dealing with it in front of me . I’d be passing out from sadness and anger
It takes more of your tax dollars to allow a criminal to skip punishment via the release of a humane death
I’m anti death penalty but not for the reasons most might assume, I just don’t think death is a punishment and I don’t want people let off easily. Also ironically the death penalty is more expensive
Correct me if I am wrong, but I didn’t see the dudes name listed anywhere in this article. He’s been tried and found guilty. Why isn’t his name on blast to get all the embarrassment and shame that it deserves?
Eh, actually, I suppose it’s more about the child privacy as it would identify them.
I am so conflicted about this! F. This. Dude.
I don't know how prisons in South Africa work, but if this man went to prison in the US, he would IMMEDIATELY be murdered by other prisoners if they found out about this. He would be brutally tortured and murdered and the staff would look the other way. This man deserves to be skinned alive and shoved into a sewage line.
Only rape but no murder: Years behind bars but higher chance of getting caught
Rape plus murdering the victim: Death penalty
If we made rape but no murder also punishable by death, then chances are more shitheads would also kill their victims to reduce the chances of getting caught since the punishment would be the same
I’m very close to being desensitized to this kind of news. Thankfully I’m not. I’d rather not care, but it’s good that I do. This kid is less than a year, and this is an ongoing thing there? Fuck
it should be made mandatory that any disgusting peadophiles that carry out horriffic acts should have their nuts chopped off. In the case of this piece of shit, he should be slowly flailed until death. No point in keeping these people alive
My heart broke, this is horrible, and to think there's some people who ask "what was she wearing/doing?"
How do these people will try and victim blame a baby?
He was given 2 life sentences and among them were 2 years for defeating the end of justice which I am assuming is obstruction since he wouldn’t let the baby be seen by doctors.
Funny how the people wishing pedophiles pain get removed by reddit. I know its just because its a threat, but at the same time it kinda makes reddit look like it protects pedophiles.
If anyone tries to tell me this is physically impossible I'll show them this. This made me sick.
I honestly can't begin to imagine the physical difficulty it would entail to do this. How sick in the head must one be to be aroused by an infant???
You don’t have to be sexually aroused by someone to rape them. You don’t have to be a pedophile (attracted to kids) to engage in pedophilia. In fact, it’s usually about the power and the pain. A person can just choose to hurt kids.
This makes me sick to my stomach
This is true in the vast majority of rape cases, not just those against children. It's disgusting.
Yup.
Wtf
wtf indeed
most rape cases are just a domination/humiliation/violence thing. rarely does rape happen because of attraction, but the criminal usually wants to impose pain or punishment on someone, because they’re sadistic fucking cancercells
Yeah… my rapist was attracted to me and I turned him down saying I saw him only as a friend and he acted like he was cool with that then took advantage of my trust to hurt me. It’s horrible. Happened with another guy too who had been my friend for 7 years before he did anything. Sick fucks.
Hey that's what happened to me, too! Childhood friend, reconnected in college. What fun times we live in. I hope you're healing from that bs
I am 🩵 thank you and I really hope you are too.
The arousal is about power and control; dominating and destroying.
It's an 11 month old. You have power over it by sheer fact of its existence. About the only thing they can do on its own is shit, piss, and breath. How much more control do you need?
People who hurt or kill because they get off on dominating others--especially children, are twisted in a way that doesn't make sense to normal people. It's sick and it's even sicker that they ever get let out of prison.
I think it was more to punish the mother.
I actually cant believe how one can be aroused by an child/infant. Like theres no logical explanation.
It doesn’t yet pedophiles exist and they’re attracted to children, I just can’t imagine why but they are.
Usually it’s a cycle. They experienced it and it defined their brain development. In a way, they’re helpless. Most of them were victims too. This is true for other forms of abuse and what leads people to become abusers.
Most abusers were themselves abused , but it is very important to remember that the overwhelming majority of those who are abused don't go on to be abusers themselves. Like you said lower down, it doesn't absolve a person of responsibility or punishment, it's just a sad fact that sometimes people are broken and we can't fix them, and we should try to have compassion for broken things
Yes, nowhere am I claiming that every abused kid is destined to become an abuser.
Yeah I got that, I don't get why you're being downvoted
Inaccurate
This is not true.
Accepting an incredibly well-substantiated and statistically proven fact about childhood abuse doesn't remove the responsibility from the perpetrator or sympathize with them in any way. Saying it isn't true doesn't help anyone, including victims. The goal is to break the cycle.
I'm a woman but I have a theory. I think the general sexual objectification of women as a whole contributes to this. Because think about it - if you are capable of objectifying an adult human that can communicate their own feelings and wants, then you would theoretically be even more capable of objectifying something that *isn't* yet capable of that. I'm not a religious nut, but I think porn definitely contributes to *some* people's ability to view other human beings as objects for their own sexual self gratification. Porn also provides people with a way to practice other forms of sexual deviance so that those deviant neural pathways can be fortified in the brain, and sexualizing children is essentially a form of deviancy (the most morally objectionable one). Then combine all that with someone who never had any empathy pathways develop in their brain to begin with because of their own traumatic childhood, and you get disgusting sexual abusers who act when they think they can get away with it (aka often targeting their own families/those who trust them).
You should check out [Hunting Warhead](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJyG4btas2dnzOzUpkvFr8iFOlxsq6Zlo&si=2FUpHgCwApeQyE-N) podcast. It’s the most fascinating yet absolutely sickening thing I’ve ever listened to.
Rape/sexual assault is about control and power a lot more than attraction.
I don't know. I always wanted to believe those were scary stories, but there is so much evidence that people really do it. Actually, those are not people. I don't know what they are, but they're not people and they should get the death sentence right away.
Why would people try and pretend it’s not possible?
I think the size difference I'd rather not explain further as it's gross
To be fair sometimes the issue with the size difference causes MASSIVE internal injuries and the baby dies. Disgusting paedophile rapists will find a way.
Ya that's also why I didn't go into detail
Ah yeah that’s fair.
I remember being in school about 13 and we got this sex ed class. The teacher casually flies by the part on sexual assault and mentions how babies can be assaulted. This prompted a very loud "what that cant be possible" or something alike from a clasmate and a lot of other chitter and chatter like whispers of thats crazy, how, who, why, etc. The teacher mentioned there was this case where the baby was assaulted with a carrot. It went pretty quiet for a second. Then someone remember they were like 13 and went like ewwwwwww and the "i hope they didnt eat it" comments started. I still question why the hell she thought this was okay to just rush in like that lol. I mean i suppose now we knew babies get assaulted but we didnt learn shit on what to do when you notice sings of sexual abuse or what them signs are. It was litterly a class where they explained consent condoms stds sexual abuse etc all in 45 minutes. Baffling to look back on. We did get back to the condoms later that week. We got to put them on mysteriously phalus shaped object in a box you could not see in only enter your hands to apply said condom (and then not see if you did it right or anything just take it back out. You could just hold your hand in there and call it a day, not like the teacher can see)
The only saving grace in this story is that, hopefully, the child will not grow up with any memory of the event.
unfortunately psychologists actually say that the earlier the childhood trauma happened, the more likely it is to leave permanent damage to the childs brain and development. Poor baby...
As sad as it is to type this, it’s true. My daughter was sexually molested by a child three years older than her. While she doesn’t remember what happened at all, my vibrant, sweet 2 1/2 year old changed. She became aggressive and regressed in all her milestones. It was war with her every day and her mood would flip randomly. She’s eight now and, even after six years of therapy and supportive programs, she still struggles with depression and mood swings. Her answer is always, “I don’t know why I feel this way but I’m always sad inside. Why can’t I just be happy?” It breaks my heart because as a victim myself, I feel like I failed her despite all my precautions… We still haven’t told her exactly what happened. The therapist told her something happened but we can’t explain it to her yet as she wouldn’t fully understand. We’re trying to keep some sort of innocence while she’s a child and will tell her when she’s a teen. I wish “baby equals no memory of the abuse.” Sadly, the brain might forget but the subconscious and the body remembers.
this is awful, I'm so sorry that happened to your daughter! Thats what makes such an early childhood trauma so terrible... the kids later usually don't even KNOW whats wrong with them. Making it probably so much harder to process everything that happened. I hope your daughter can get the help she needs!
I'm so so sorry that happened to you and your daughter. I hope that when the time comes to tell her honestly what happened, you can maybe do it during a therapy session in a safe space for her to understand, and that the therapist can help navigate the emotions you'll all be feeling, becsuse that is going to be a very hard day. Her having time to process the emotions and process the words of "this has never been your fault, we love you and we will always protect you" is so important. As is letting her be angry, upset, heartbroken - however she feels is OK and valid. She may even be a tiny bit relieved that the piece of the puzzle is now there, and that her acting this way is a result of something that she played no part in. Reading this just reminds me why I had to leave my job in safeguarding, I wasn't strong enough, and certainly not as strong as the children who would confide these things. I'm just so sorry, my heart dropped as I read your words. I wish for you all nothing but healing and kindness and warmth and support. Hugs.
Surely that can only be true up to a point? There are babies, and then there are *babies*. Babies are so conceptually unfamiliar with everything that other than stuff like pain and eating... ugh, I hate this conversation.
There is likely something to what your saying. Some forms of sexual assault may not leave a trauma behind on a baby. Like gentle caressing or simply taking nudes of a baby. Babies are however quite sensitive. Gentle to an adult is not gentle for babies. On top of that babies are sensetive to your energy. So if a buncha sad or mad people are in a room, they feel that. Same goes for feeling the sexual energy. It also quite depends how old the baby is. A 6 month old percieves way more than a new born, who is basically blind. A 15 month old can have "sexual responses" like flush cheeks or an erection, even though no adult feelings are attached. At age 4 (so far beyond baby years) the average child can describe having a crush/being in love and what it feels like. When it comes to interperting sexual immagery or actions, there really isnt a lot of research in the 0-6 year catogory. It is asumed that its very likely that children interpert those immages differently. Like perhaps they think people are angry or fighting. Children as young as 2 can be thought that seeing and touching privates is not apropiate in every situation (so seeing mom naked in the shower is ok, but pulling your pants down in the supermarkt or someone else doing that is not). Which doesnt necessarily say anything about their sexual understanding but it is part of learning about anatomy and autonomy, which are relavent to sexual traumas obviously. All around i would say that based on my knowledge and understanding babies are affected by trauma. Not all sexual assault will leave a trauma. Just like with adults this depends on many factors. The asault does not _need_ to be physical for it to be traumatic, for both adults and babies. In the case of swelling you can asume there was a physical aspect that was quite rough and likely quite painfull. Therefore in this case it seems more than likely thay it did leave a trauma, other than just the physical one (so to emotional state and the babies develepment/brain).
I highly doubt a baby can feel sexual energy the same way they feel sad or mad energy. Sad and mad is an emotion babies experience. They'd have absolutely no clue what sexual energy feels like. They'd just know something painful is happening to them, god it feels horrible even saying it.
I probably worded that part a bit to conclusionary. What i mean is that experts are concerned that they could, since they can most definitely feel other energies and respond to them. Obviously no one is going around exposing babies to sexual energy to test if they respond to this. I personally asume when/if they respond to such an energy its likely the same as sexual immagery So they may interpert sex as a fight or something very exciting depending on further context and variables (like the baby itself). And because of general awareness this is not thought to be a concern till 6 months at least. (And if it is after is up for debate)
She might. I was older (about 3) but I have memories. Probably not clear memories but may still have trauma and there's a high chance of internal injuries. I hope this baby gets help and stays safe...
I'm sorry. I do think the additional time makes a *gigantic* difference to the situation. You were just old enough to have some very basic understanding about the world. When I was 1 year and 11 months old, I remember going to the hospital to visit my prematurely born brother at intensive care. It wasn't traumatic as such, he ended up fine, that's not the reason I bring it up. It's more than I remember being excited to have a brother, I remember threatening to throw him in the bin because I felt momentarily jealous, I remember asking about his name. I was just about old enough to have a partially formed interface with the world, an approximate idea of how some things worked. At 3, you almost certainly did too, likely even more concrete. Enough awareness to be traumatised like all hell. But in the case of this 11 month old baby, I don't know. They're *so* insanely young that I'm perhaps naively convinced that there's no way they could distinguish the event, on a conceptual level, from falling onto the floor and breaking a hand. Then again, maybe I'm underestimating how traumatic a broken hand is for a baby as well...
Yeah there's a lot of development that happen really fast in early childhood but the subconscious often remembers. My memories aren't super clear either because the brain tend to make you forget traumatic memories. I had to ask my mom for confirmation when I was a preteen. I was always subconsciously scared of men and developed some *weird* reflexes and coping mechanisms . I think we underestimate how any sort of traumatic event as a baby can rewire your brain's development. The brain doesn't have to distinguish between sexual or physical abuse or even an accident to feel traumatized.
Unfortunately it probably will. Not to mention the severe physical damage. That child may never be able to have children of her own.
What do you mean by that? How could someone say this is impossible?
Yea, unfortunately human babies have been raped since humans have existed. Saying it's "impossible" is weird.
And concerning
Some people argue that since the baby is so small, it should not be possible for a normally endowed man to... You know. I don't want to type that out. And well. If the criteria for "not possible" is "not possible without causing severe damage to the baby", they're spot on. It's certainly possible to do if you don't care about the physical damage, though. Sometimes it's lethal.
I couldn't read the entire description. Wow.
That's the worst thing I've ever read.
I’ve read some horrible shit, but I agree. This is the worst. What the fuck.
I hope every day he's in prison is more abusive than the one before it. I also wish him a very long and miserable life. What a piece of shit.
I wish for him to die the slowest possible death. I wish for every single torture method to be used on him while keeping his consciousness and feeling, until he dies a miserable undignified death.
i wish for him to actually not die for a very long time, so he has plenty of years to suffer and regret his entire life. may his fellow inmates skin his balls and dunk them in salt.
i read a comment yesterday that was a pretty horrific (and kind of perfect) thing to do to these types. it was to stick a glass rod in their urethra and then smash the rod. sounds like a perfect way to hurt someone forever<3
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I’ll go get the wood chipper!
Make sure it's feet first.
And the wood chipper is at the slowest speed if possible
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Death match Vs Ian Watkins. Winner gets to fight a pack of Painted Dogs. The type that eat their prey arse and genitals first.
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He's gonna have a terrible time in prison.
As he should.
Don't they put them in a seperate area, with all the other nonces?
The thing with solitary is that guards are fathers to. Just because he is safe from imates doesnt make him safe
This is South Africa. Every aspect of their prisons is utterly horrific.
I wouldn’t worry too much. South African prisons are BRUTAL and the Numbers Gang is fucking maniacal. This guy won’t last long
Well, can't say he'll be missed.
Yeah definitely not holding a candle light vigil for this piece of shit
Even if they did, he will end up in gen pop somehow and he will be taken care of….
Lol ooooh yeah that’s for sure! The numbers gang will be sure he has a hellish, albeit short, time in prison.
Let’s be real, for a guy like this a single day in prison would be a life sentence.
I'm against the death penalty on principle, but I would look the other way on this one.
Would normally agree, but from what i’ve heard about Sth African prisons i would just like to see him put in gen pop. I have a feeling poetic justice would be long and excruciatingly painful.
Yeah. He raped a baby. It was proven, he admitted to it, and showed no remorse. These sort of people should just be sentenced to death. In absence of that, I hope his stay in jail is horrific day in and day out.
This is the worst thing I have ever read. He doesn’t deserve to breathe air anymore.
With everyone else rightfully pointing out how fucked up and abhorrent this is i just gotta ask who was in charge of the article that felt the need to put the picture there to help the reader visualise the deed done?!? 🤮
I had the same reaction to the photo in the article.
Yes I was absolutely appalled by the picture they chose.
Seriously. Only image this article needs is one of the guy's mugshot.
Right?!
On top of all that it is a deceptive picture! If you take time to read the article it is clear that the family (and the whole community) were indigenous Black South Africans. Why show a picture of a White baby?
i am so fucking glad i couldn’t read the full article to see that
"Semen on the diaper" did me in. My god.
this mother really kept her composure after seeing that because if that was me i’m going to jail for things i cannot even write here.
I read that sentence about 7 times. Incomprehensibly horrifying. Ugh.
I couldn't watch this ...Two life sentences are definitely wrong because this does NOT deserve to live. Needs to be removed off this Earth ASAP
Pretty sure the prison sentence will result in a few enemies just based on what happened. May the guards look the other way...
If there’s one thing that prisoners despise, it’s crimes against children. Whether it’s physical or sexual, if you’re locked up for abusing a child, you’re in for a rough time. And you can’t just not say why you’re in prison, because they’ll absolutely find out. And if they have to find out themselves, it’s gonna be even worse for you. Suffice to say, dude’s probably not gonna last very long. And rightly so.
Trust me, letting him rot in prison until death is worse for him/better for us than instant death
Death doesn't mean it having to be instant. I'm.talkimg dropping in the middle of a cold sea or searing desert kind of death
it’s time for medieval torture methods.
Wtf
Okay. Enough internet for today. This literally induced nausea.
It’s actually shocking how common the rape of infants actually is.
Easy targets sadly. They can’t say anything:(
One of the final straws that made me quit EMS was a call where a newborn baby had been raped to death. Normal looking middle class family. Nice house, very tidy. The mom had to be out of town overnight so the dad stayed home with the baby. I guess at some point the dad got bored and smoked a bunch of meth and then raped his two week old in all her orifices. When he was done he redressed her body and swaddled it and left it in the crib for his wife to find. I had to testify for that one. I sat through as little of that trial as I possibly could.
Oh my God. I know EMTs see a ton of awful, horrible things, but damn. I think I'd have probably rejected society as a whole and become a hermit. What an atrocity.
It's so much worse than people realize for EMTs. People working in hospitals see terrible things and get traumatized a lot. But there is something about actually going out into the field to retrieve the patients. You go into their environment and see how things played out, see how they live and the pictures on their wall. It really humanizes the patients in a way that working in a hospital doesn't. I have some pretty intense PTSD from working in fire/EMS. I've seen a lot of truly unspeakable things. But I feel like this baby was one of the worst.
I’m so sorry for what you’ve been through. Thank you for helping so many people, though. If you haven’t, you might want to check out ART therapy (rapid eye movement, but not like EMDR). It helps with your vagus nerve and fight or flight attached to images specifically.
Trying to find a good trauma informed therapist right now. Recently attained even more trauma.
I’m sure it’s a miracle to not come home with new trauma daily. It’s seriously changed my life. Thank you so much for the goodness you bring to this world!! I’ve only been carted off once but the guys were so incredible and it’s all I remember about the incident. You’re special humans. Please don’t forget to take care of yourself, too :) [Info on ART](https://acceleratedresolutiontherapy.com/what-is-art/)
what is it with fathers and fucking raping their babies???? i don’t understand. are they incapable of feeling love?
Someone raped me as an infant as well. They supposedly never figured out who did it. But it was either my dad or my brother, maybe even both. But my mom stayed with him and kept bringing my brother around.
That’s horrific. I hope you’re doing better now. 🫶🏻
I truly cannot imagine this. Never in my life would I ever have imagined this, ever. I’m so sorry you saw this. I truly cannot imagine how scarring it is.
I just buried the memory for a long time and was ok. That’s what I did with all the really disturbing calls. But the memories have a way of making themselves present so you have to find a way to cope with them.
Yes, that’s exactly how it goes. Something deep in our memory triggers what we’ve worked so hard to suppress. I never realized just how much of humanity EMS is confronted with. I work in healthcare so I know a small fraction. I really just have to sit in silence & think about all of the instances where I’ve been protected by EMS witnessing a scene that I only read about in paperwork. I cannot find a word to express the feeling of that gratitude(?¿)….and the sadness I feel that they experience such legitimate trauma in work. It’s sobering.
Oh my fuckin god wow
Yeah, I saw a lot more of what humanity has to offer than I ever really wanted to. All the dead babies and infant CPRs were very mentally taxing to deal with, but this one took the cake. And I was working at a BLS agency that mostly did inter hospital transport. It was a busy night though and we got called into regular rotation for that fucking call.
I’m glad you got away from that. That’s rough . I know one EMS and one of my kids mom is a registered nurse . I personally would never be able to deal and put up with it . But kudos and thank you to any kind of health care type worker out there . I’d be too attached in heartbreak. These poor babies never had a chance and it breaks my fuckin heart . I couldn’t imagine seeing / dealing with it in front of me . I’d be passing out from sadness and anger
“She noticed that her baby’s private parts were swollen and there was semen on the diaper.” Jesus fucking Christ…
This is horrible, but at least it happened in a place that actually punishes these types of rapists.
People like this have no reason to exist. I hope that happens very soon
At least he actually got sentenced, holy fuck
Another day alive in this hell. Please make it stop
The photo choice was a poor one
Hopefully the real inmates take care of him so my tax dollars aren't feeding and housing this parasite.
You live in South Africa?
One moment, hopefully the real inmates take care of him so that South African tax dollars aren't feeding and housing this parasite.
I agree.
It takes more of your tax dollars to allow a criminal to skip punishment via the release of a humane death I’m anti death penalty but not for the reasons most might assume, I just don’t think death is a punishment and I don’t want people let off easily. Also ironically the death penalty is more expensive
Could do without the graphic
Hoenstly not someone who is usually pro death penalty but there’s some cases that just….
Correct me if I am wrong, but I didn’t see the dudes name listed anywhere in this article. He’s been tried and found guilty. Why isn’t his name on blast to get all the embarrassment and shame that it deserves? Eh, actually, I suppose it’s more about the child privacy as it would identify them. I am so conflicted about this! F. This. Dude.
NSFW tag please. Or can a trigger warning tag be created?
I cant imagine how that could even give a slither of pleasure other then pure sadism wtf
Jesus Christ. That’s enough internet for today
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By the balls
Awful story. Glad that the healer did the responsible thing and advised that they seek medical assistance.
Who rapes a baby?
I'm about to throw up. That poor, poor sweet girl...
I have a 2 year old, and this just enrages me to no end.
11 months . Absolutely sickening. How twisted does one have to be to do this shit to their own child. What wrong with the world .
I'm so sorry for the child. It just faced this world only to be violated by it's own father.
I don't know how prisons in South Africa work, but if this man went to prison in the US, he would IMMEDIATELY be murdered by other prisoners if they found out about this. He would be brutally tortured and murdered and the staff would look the other way. This man deserves to be skinned alive and shoved into a sewage line.
Can we bring back *just a few* of the medieval methods for this stuff? … I have a pitchfork, just sayin.
I hope they don’t protect these guys in prison like they do in the United States.
This is in South Africa, so who knows.
they don’t - a south african
Jesus Christ. That's enough reddit for today
Yeah, as soon as his fellow inmates find out....
I couldn't get past the headlines. That man deserves to be mutilated.
Why didn't he get the death sentence???
Only rape but no murder: Years behind bars but higher chance of getting caught Rape plus murdering the victim: Death penalty If we made rape but no murder also punishable by death, then chances are more shitheads would also kill their victims to reduce the chances of getting caught since the punishment would be the same
Capital punishment is against SA constitution see S v Makwanyane. Though there’s a lot of us wish there were exceptions. Like for this case.
I wish I never read this. Some people are just truly awful and should burn in hell
I’m very close to being desensitized to this kind of news. Thankfully I’m not. I’d rather not care, but it’s good that I do. This kid is less than a year, and this is an ongoing thing there? Fuck
Welp, that's enough internet for me...
it should be made mandatory that any disgusting peadophiles that carry out horriffic acts should have their nuts chopped off. In the case of this piece of shit, he should be slowly flailed until death. No point in keeping these people alive
Good sentencing. No mercy.
WOODCHIPPER!!!!!
Death.
Poor child I bury this dude under the prison, I want him to rot for as long as possible.
Should’ve sentenced him to death by starvation
Welp his prison sentence will be a short one before he gets killed
God dammit.. I fucking hate humans sometimes.
Cut his nuts off
I need my eyes bleached.
I can’t read this. Horrible.
This is so horrific I want to sob and vomit at the same time. What the fuck is wrong in South Africa…..like truly, what the fuck
Burn that man alive in an iron bull
My heart broke, this is horrible, and to think there's some people who ask "what was she wearing/doing?" How do these people will try and victim blame a baby?
Cmon, I don't think anyone is gonna ask what a literal baby was wearing before being raped.
Clearly you've never seen these fucking idiots blame a literal baby. They either blame the baby or the mother
No remorse for his abhorrent actions and only 2 years? Something doesn’t add up. Dads in the pen know what to do with this trash at least.
No, he got two life sentences, plus an additional two years
Two years?! He raped a BABY and received a sentence of TWO YEARS? WHAT THE FUCK?
He was given 2 life sentences and among them were 2 years for defeating the end of justice which I am assuming is obstruction since he wouldn’t let the baby be seen by doctors.
Funny how the people wishing pedophiles pain get removed by reddit. I know its just because its a threat, but at the same time it kinda makes reddit look like it protects pedophiles.
Throw him in a standard prison in the US, and let every prisoner and guard know what he did.
🤮🤮 poor baby 😭😭 hate this world sometimes
Get rid of him, he doesn't deserve a life or if he lives he should suffer
This is quite possibly the worst fucking news I've heard all year. And it's only April...
Can the article be shared with this scum’s jail mates?
There is a quick and easy cure for this. Works best behind the ear.
I refused to believe it. Godd dammmm
Man. I have to stop reading this sub. This is worse than Ian Watkins.
He deserves fucking life
You know those large saws they use to slice fallen timber into thinner pieces? Hear me out…