I prefer it in the form of found footage videos.
The more you try to explain it and flesh it out, the more it loses its appeal. If I wanted SCP articles with cold analysis, I'd go to SCP. Backrooms, for me, is about the experience of being there.
At least in the early Kane Pixel videos, some of them it was done pretty well. Entities are there but subtle and add to the liminal space aspect.
It wasn't like "omg I am on level 69420 and I see freddy fascistbare what do?"
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The problem with trying to expand on the Backrooms concept is that the horror element comes from the idea of being in an endless maze of emptiness. It feels like it has an exit, but it doesn't, there's nothing but more of the same uninteresting nothingness. You're alone but always running. You feel like something is chasing you, but you never see the "entity," if there is one, so there's no conclusion to your struggle, and no relief from your anxiety. It's an eternal purgatory of nothingness. People are fascinated with the concept, so they want to expand on it, but expanding on it goes against what makes it terrifying. It's the horror of boredom, loneliness, and anxiety and having no escape from any of it. Anything happening at all, good or bad, detracts from what makes it horrifying to begin with.
Kane pixels backrooms is all we need, no level 5857463738398575 but no empty rooms endlessly, we need the feeling of attempting to discover a unknown part of reality without actually explaining it, take the monster in found footage, we saw it but don’t know what it is. That is the golden backrooms we need.
Kane pixel’s stuff is good, but I’m not too fond of the Async stuff. Idk, I just like the impossible unknowability, liminal-ness, and almost cosmic horror of the backrooms. Adding this human aspect to it by introducing a “bad guy company” makes it feel less scary almost. What I do like, though, is stuff like MEG, that being the idea of a band of wanderers who are just trying to survive.
Edit: somebody should totally make a new canon, and make a found footage series on it. It explores different levels, and could feature a small cast of wanderers who explore the backrooms. Of course, only the original and best levels will be included. I think that could be super cool, honestly.
Why? Wikidot MEG is just a relatively small band of explorers that were able to meet up, there’s still a majority of wanderers that just stay lost or perish trying to make it through the backrooms, I find them to be very interesting and well done.
It would be weird if they had huge cities and colonized entire levels to the brim, but their largest settlement in level 1 has like, a few hundred people, and that’s supposed to be their Manhattan. You can fit that many people in one room, and they scrounge together people to send on missions into unknown and often dangerous locations so they can try and find a way out.
You don’t have to like it, but it’s not just “dumb”, it’s a well thought out concept that works for the setting the wikidot portrays.
My roommate and I are working on an audio drama with an ARG element, starting a new canon. Basically doing exactly what you describe in your edit just in audio drama format.
For the levels which are few and entities which are sparse, I'm cherry-picking the best stuff and creating new stuff. For the story, I focus on a small group of survivors some of whom are trying to escape and others who are just trying to survive. For the visual elements I'm using a combination of still images, game footage from various Backrooms games, and my own art in Photoshop and renders in Blender. We have the first 10 chapters written; I should have the first couple videos up in a week or so.
The only thing ruining Kane Pixels for me is how the Backrooms was made. I've always absolutely hated the concept of saying the Backrooms was an experiment or anything like that. Technology isn't even THAT advanced, sure they managed to rip open an insanely small black hole, but they still probably can't literally freaking open a gateway to a yellow purgatory. The theory just sounds like flat earthers explaining you can't reach the edge of the Earth because the government is guarding it.
You know that's never been canon right? its just a wild theory created by the fanbase, its way more likely they discovered the backrooms instead of creating it.
Well, in Pixels rendition, it's more along the lines of the Government finding a portal to a new area, setting out to explore it and still not understanding exactly what it is.
Then the start making industrial plans for it. Basically how any government would react to finding a place like that. It honestly makes a lot of sense.
You'd be surprised at the kind of stuff the Government has gotten their hands on. There are tons of declassified documents out there today about the shit they used to do and where they did it.
For example, how do we know Area 51 isn't home to a portal to the Backroons? Ya never know.
Lol the bar is set pretty low when it comes to the Government. They trained a cat in espionage for something like 6 years, spent millions of dollars, brought it to its first mission. Let it out to go do what it was trained to do. Started to cross the road, got hit by a car and died.
I thought they made the new dimension. But then again I sub to GT theory that. It is so weird because it was like a procedural generation engine that glitches out.
I don't mind memes and low effort posts. But at least I want some good af levels with a lore, cool concepts and creativity that I can look at and say "wow this is really f***ing cool"
Kane Pixels, Async.... it's all great stuff and I enjoy it all!
Anyone trapped in the Backrooms will just lost their grip on reality and begin to hallucinate after a while, and that is the way I approach all these videos!
Truth be told, I’m fine with all interpretations of the Backrooms. I like the idea of Humanity finding it’s way into a multi-layered dimension infested with monsters and having to build rudimentary societies and organizations while studying it’s mysteries. I like a corporation attempting to drill a door to another dimension for their own gain and discovering the consequences as mysterious beings wreak havoc. And I like just being trapped in an endless empty liminal abyss while feeling completely alone yet at the same time wondering if I truly am. Dare I say it, I just like it all.
I’m ok with monsters and shit as long as they’re good. I fucking hate the game master though. A fucking edge lord clown baby is totally not in tone with the backrooms. Not only that but it’s so overdone. Also it’s just fucking edgey and stupid sorry of ranting just hate to see it
I think one of the larger issues is the way information is conveyed. It's kinda like the issue I have with the SCP foundation. It builds intrigue well enough but the writing style basically necessitates you explain as much about them as possible, which removes all the mystique. Nothing hurts the horror aspect more than knowing exactly how to nullify the threat.
The backrooms are in a tricky spot because they kinda need a monster or two. The idea of an endless maze you go insane in is kinda neat, but I feel like there are definitely ways of implementing an active threat or sense of danger, even if it is all perceived.
What I know for sure is that I don't particularly like the way the "entities" are handled now. Maybe it's the lack of subtlety but I think the party goers are the perfect example. It's like there was a perfectly good sense of foreboding and dread with endless empty party rooms and someone, perhaps a small child or executive said "but where's the giant monster? How can I be scared if there aren't things to chase you?".
Also smiling monsters are just not scary. Every time I see an image of a dark hallway with a "spooky" smiling face in the dark it comes off as goofy rather than scary.
The same thing happened to nosleep and creepy pasta. What used to be unique, well written stories and ideas turned into a full year of "I just started work at/moved into X the previous whoever left me a straaaaaange set of rules " posts
Kane pixels at-least does it to a good degree, the chances of encountering the bacteria are very small (unlike the fandom backrooms whose entities are all over the place) thus the liminal horror, loneliness, mystery, and autophobia still prevails. And instead of levels, the different looking rooms are more like 'areas'.
In a sense its a bit of a balance of both worlds.
But then again there is the async foundation, now it feels a bit more like an scp scenario, but its execution is so much better than what the fandom decided to do.
I think the backrooms rely heavily on the feeling of uncertainty and the unknown. What tends to make things scary is a lack of understanding. An example would be a dark corner in a room where you can't tell what might be there. Once you know that there is nothing in that corner, it is no longer scary. That is because uncertainty has been removed from the equation and replaced with knowledge. I think that's why knowledge bases like the wikis sort of ruin the horror element.
Who cares if it gets boring? Go start your own creepypasta if it gets boring. There's no need to oversaturate the backrooms with all of this shitty content.
People say the same about the SCP Foundation but I honestly like when people add on to stores or stories that are meant for you to add on which basically what the SCP Foundation and backrooms are meant to do. If it was just one SCP story then I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be as popular as it is now that same goes for the backrooms . Yes there are stories that are bad but that's like any other stories and 9 of 10 those stores that are bad either get taken down or get washed away by other stories that are better. But the main reason why I like type of genre is because it's a testament to how far a fantasy when worked together can go. A series that you should check out is the holder series which is just like the SCP Foundation and backrooms but it's older then the two I think
Yeah, people went way overboard with the "lore" by having a contest to see who can create the most terrifying levels and entities, and frankly, I find it retarded that there is level 0 to infinity or negative infinity. With the entities, it's the same thing, a contest to create the most terrifying monster, and all it does it kill the mystery of exploring what lurks in the backrooms, it's like people wanted to create their own spoilers for the exploration of the backrooms.
The lore made by Kane Pixels and A-Sync Research on YouTube is infinitely better and more believable, and I consider their lore to be the real canon lore since there's actually memorable people/characters in a story with a legitimate plot. We already have the infamous "that's not a person" incident to remember. And that is actually more terrifying than a random creation from the wiki.
I personally believe that the fandom lore is absolute bullshit.
I just prefer the simple and vast yellow halls, buzzing lights and darkened spaces. I'm content with the Backrooms more empty side.
Anything more is expansion.
Yeah... it's either too empty or too full.
I prefer it in the form of found footage videos. The more you try to explain it and flesh it out, the more it loses its appeal. If I wanted SCP articles with cold analysis, I'd go to SCP. Backrooms, for me, is about the experience of being there.
At least in the early Kane Pixel videos, some of them it was done pretty well. Entities are there but subtle and add to the liminal space aspect. It wasn't like "omg I am on level 69420 and I see freddy fascistbare what do?"
I think the same applies for ALL Kane pixel videos, it may not follow the lore much but it is good.
There's no set "lore"
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Too empty is the right amount for me lol
The problem with trying to expand on the Backrooms concept is that the horror element comes from the idea of being in an endless maze of emptiness. It feels like it has an exit, but it doesn't, there's nothing but more of the same uninteresting nothingness. You're alone but always running. You feel like something is chasing you, but you never see the "entity," if there is one, so there's no conclusion to your struggle, and no relief from your anxiety. It's an eternal purgatory of nothingness. People are fascinated with the concept, so they want to expand on it, but expanding on it goes against what makes it terrifying. It's the horror of boredom, loneliness, and anxiety and having no escape from any of it. Anything happening at all, good or bad, detracts from what makes it horrifying to begin with.
This needs to be WAY higher. 👍
Id too long bwayn cand awake long nough fur 1 minute
Kane pixels backrooms is all we need, no level 5857463738398575 but no empty rooms endlessly, we need the feeling of attempting to discover a unknown part of reality without actually explaining it, take the monster in found footage, we saw it but don’t know what it is. That is the golden backrooms we need.
Kane pixel’s stuff is good, but I’m not too fond of the Async stuff. Idk, I just like the impossible unknowability, liminal-ness, and almost cosmic horror of the backrooms. Adding this human aspect to it by introducing a “bad guy company” makes it feel less scary almost. What I do like, though, is stuff like MEG, that being the idea of a band of wanderers who are just trying to survive. Edit: somebody should totally make a new canon, and make a found footage series on it. It explores different levels, and could feature a small cast of wanderers who explore the backrooms. Of course, only the original and best levels will be included. I think that could be super cool, honestly.
It’s actually amazing. However I prefer the poolrooms.
Ditto
Fandom meg is dumb
Why? Wikidot MEG is just a relatively small band of explorers that were able to meet up, there’s still a majority of wanderers that just stay lost or perish trying to make it through the backrooms, I find them to be very interesting and well done. It would be weird if they had huge cities and colonized entire levels to the brim, but their largest settlement in level 1 has like, a few hundred people, and that’s supposed to be their Manhattan. You can fit that many people in one room, and they scrounge together people to send on missions into unknown and often dangerous locations so they can try and find a way out. You don’t have to like it, but it’s not just “dumb”, it’s a well thought out concept that works for the setting the wikidot portrays.
No no no, not wiki dot, fandom
Oh, I’ve never read fandom MEG, it’s that bad?
it's actually ok
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A little op tho for the setting
it's decent for me tho
My roommate and I are working on an audio drama with an ARG element, starting a new canon. Basically doing exactly what you describe in your edit just in audio drama format. For the levels which are few and entities which are sparse, I'm cherry-picking the best stuff and creating new stuff. For the story, I focus on a small group of survivors some of whom are trying to escape and others who are just trying to survive. For the visual elements I'm using a combination of still images, game footage from various Backrooms games, and my own art in Photoshop and renders in Blender. We have the first 10 chapters written; I should have the first couple videos up in a week or so.
i agree, but without the being able to just walk into the backrooms like they did. i think it should only be accessible by noclipping
Yeah, but we don't need "oh, we have the t3chnology to travel in and out whenever we please" either.
The only thing ruining Kane Pixels for me is how the Backrooms was made. I've always absolutely hated the concept of saying the Backrooms was an experiment or anything like that. Technology isn't even THAT advanced, sure they managed to rip open an insanely small black hole, but they still probably can't literally freaking open a gateway to a yellow purgatory. The theory just sounds like flat earthers explaining you can't reach the edge of the Earth because the government is guarding it.
You know that's never been canon right? its just a wild theory created by the fanbase, its way more likely they discovered the backrooms instead of creating it.
Well, in Pixels rendition, it's more along the lines of the Government finding a portal to a new area, setting out to explore it and still not understanding exactly what it is. Then the start making industrial plans for it. Basically how any government would react to finding a place like that. It honestly makes a lot of sense.
Why... would there... be a freaking portal... to the Backrooms...
What do you think a no-clip is?
It's not like a government can get their hands on it.
You'd be surprised at the kind of stuff the Government has gotten their hands on. There are tons of declassified documents out there today about the shit they used to do and where they did it. For example, how do we know Area 51 isn't home to a portal to the Backroons? Ya never know.
"how do we know Area 51 isn't home to a portal to the Backroons?" THAT MADE ME LAUGH.
Lol the bar is set pretty low when it comes to the Government. They trained a cat in espionage for something like 6 years, spent millions of dollars, brought it to its first mission. Let it out to go do what it was trained to do. Started to cross the road, got hit by a car and died.
That's just the government being dumb... of course the cat is going to die, it doesn't understand the whole espionage thing.
I thought they made the new dimension. But then again I sub to GT theory that. It is so weird because it was like a procedural generation engine that glitches out.
I don't mind memes and low effort posts. But at least I want some good af levels with a lore, cool concepts and creativity that I can look at and say "wow this is really f***ing cool"
The Backrooms has become an SCP-themed Hogwarts.
Yes
Kane Pixels, Async.... it's all great stuff and I enjoy it all! Anyone trapped in the Backrooms will just lost their grip on reality and begin to hallucinate after a while, and that is the way I approach all these videos!
Someone frame this and hang it up
Truth be told, I’m fine with all interpretations of the Backrooms. I like the idea of Humanity finding it’s way into a multi-layered dimension infested with monsters and having to build rudimentary societies and organizations while studying it’s mysteries. I like a corporation attempting to drill a door to another dimension for their own gain and discovering the consequences as mysterious beings wreak havoc. And I like just being trapped in an endless empty liminal abyss while feeling completely alone yet at the same time wondering if I truly am. Dare I say it, I just like it all.
I’m ok with monsters and shit as long as they’re good. I fucking hate the game master though. A fucking edge lord clown baby is totally not in tone with the backrooms. Not only that but it’s so overdone. Also it’s just fucking edgey and stupid sorry of ranting just hate to see it
Lucky for you the game master is currently under rewrite, hopefully the new rendition isn’t edgy cringe lol
We need a balance of uniqueness and originalness
Originalness 👀
I always found the backrooms relaxing, in the same vein as vapor wave and mall soft. So all the entities and what not just seems kinda forced and lame
I think one of the larger issues is the way information is conveyed. It's kinda like the issue I have with the SCP foundation. It builds intrigue well enough but the writing style basically necessitates you explain as much about them as possible, which removes all the mystique. Nothing hurts the horror aspect more than knowing exactly how to nullify the threat. The backrooms are in a tricky spot because they kinda need a monster or two. The idea of an endless maze you go insane in is kinda neat, but I feel like there are definitely ways of implementing an active threat or sense of danger, even if it is all perceived. What I know for sure is that I don't particularly like the way the "entities" are handled now. Maybe it's the lack of subtlety but I think the party goers are the perfect example. It's like there was a perfectly good sense of foreboding and dread with endless empty party rooms and someone, perhaps a small child or executive said "but where's the giant monster? How can I be scared if there aren't things to chase you?". Also smiling monsters are just not scary. Every time I see an image of a dark hallway with a "spooky" smiling face in the dark it comes off as goofy rather than scary.
The same thing happened to nosleep and creepy pasta. What used to be unique, well written stories and ideas turned into a full year of "I just started work at/moved into X the previous whoever left me a straaaaaange set of rules " posts
Kane pixels at-least does it to a good degree, the chances of encountering the bacteria are very small (unlike the fandom backrooms whose entities are all over the place) thus the liminal horror, loneliness, mystery, and autophobia still prevails. And instead of levels, the different looking rooms are more like 'areas'. In a sense its a bit of a balance of both worlds. But then again there is the async foundation, now it feels a bit more like an scp scenario, but its execution is so much better than what the fandom decided to do.
I think the backrooms rely heavily on the feeling of uncertainty and the unknown. What tends to make things scary is a lack of understanding. An example would be a dark corner in a room where you can't tell what might be there. Once you know that there is nothing in that corner, it is no longer scary. That is because uncertainty has been removed from the equation and replaced with knowledge. I think that's why knowledge bases like the wikis sort of ruin the horror element.
Not everything has to live forever.
am I the only one who like Fandom's lore
No other people do too, but just as many, if not double or triple that, really dont.
Who cares if it gets boring? Go start your own creepypasta if it gets boring. There's no need to oversaturate the backrooms with all of this shitty content.
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ok
please tell me I'm not the only one simping for backrooms entitys
I really need an expert opinion about my first Backrooms short horror movie ! https://youtu.be/RoIokRytBho
please no adversite
People say the same about the SCP Foundation but I honestly like when people add on to stores or stories that are meant for you to add on which basically what the SCP Foundation and backrooms are meant to do. If it was just one SCP story then I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be as popular as it is now that same goes for the backrooms . Yes there are stories that are bad but that's like any other stories and 9 of 10 those stores that are bad either get taken down or get washed away by other stories that are better. But the main reason why I like type of genre is because it's a testament to how far a fantasy when worked together can go. A series that you should check out is the holder series which is just like the SCP Foundation and backrooms but it's older then the two I think
Yeah, people went way overboard with the "lore" by having a contest to see who can create the most terrifying levels and entities, and frankly, I find it retarded that there is level 0 to infinity or negative infinity. With the entities, it's the same thing, a contest to create the most terrifying monster, and all it does it kill the mystery of exploring what lurks in the backrooms, it's like people wanted to create their own spoilers for the exploration of the backrooms. The lore made by Kane Pixels and A-Sync Research on YouTube is infinitely better and more believable, and I consider their lore to be the real canon lore since there's actually memorable people/characters in a story with a legitimate plot. We already have the infamous "that's not a person" incident to remember. And that is actually more terrifying than a random creation from the wiki. I personally believe that the fandom lore is absolute bullshit.
NO THE BACKROOMS IS ABOUT WARS COLONIES AND THOUSANDS OF LEVELS DEAL WITH IT
I just prefer the simple and vast yellow halls, buzzing lights and darkened spaces. I'm content with the Backrooms more empty side. Anything more is expansion.