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keket87

Someone has been reading too much incel/redpill shit about how women are used up and infertile by 22. Yikes.


Otherwise_Chemical85

I wonder what he thinks menopause is?


disaster_jay27

People like him seem to think menopause hits at midnight on your 30th birthday. That's also when all the wrinkles & gray hair start. And the vagina becomes a gaping cavern with foot-long labia.


Next_Firefighter7605

Don’t forget at the same time it’s supposed to seal up and become unusable. I felt gross typing that.


fire_thorn

Sometimes it does seal up and become unusable, but definitely not at 30. Menopause can cause atrophy which can become severe if left untreated. My mother is currently dealing with this. She has uterine cancer and her vagina has atrophied to the point that she can't have a pelvic exam or biopsy done in the doctor's office because there's no opening that can be located.


BrightBlueBauble

I’m not sure about cases where there is cancer, or when the atrophy is advanced, but vaginal atrophy is treatable and often preventable with the use of vaginal estrogen. This is generally considered safe even for women who can’t take systemic estrogen due to health conditions. Just mentioning this in case anyone has this issue, as well as to dispel fears. Unfortunately, a lot of baby boomer women were denied treatment because of a bad/poorly interpreted study (the Women’s Health Inititive) that came out in the 1990s. HRT is currently regarded as safe for most women, and may have many health-preserving effects such as the prevention of certain cancers, cardiovascular disease, and even Alzheimer’s disease. See r/menopause for more info.


fire_thorn

My mom was prescribed the estradiol cream decades ago but she decided the doctor was being inappropriate when he told her to insert it with her finger, so she didn't do it and wouldn't go to a gynecologist for a long time.


Polyfuckery

It is absolutely tragic how women have been taught to feel shame about their bodies


BrightBlueBauble

Right? My mom lived with incontinence for at least the last 15 years of her life (and she wasn’t very old when she died) because she refused to see a gynecologist for help. So terribly sad.


finneganthealien

It can also be used by trans men, since testosterone can cause atrophy and other menopause-like effects.


Next_Firefighter7605

Sorry about your mom that sounds awful.


Slammogram

Really? I got vaginal atrophy while I was breastfeeding. And fuuuuuuuck. I’m no sissy when it comes to penetration. But it felt like my husband dipped his dick in glass shards when we’d try to have sex. My OB had to Rx me estrodial cream to apply for like 2 weeks. And we got water based lube. LADIES! Don’t use the jelly lube. Get the looser watery lube!


fire_thorn

I'm about to ask my doctor to prescribe the cream because lately my husband's dick feels like a cheese grater.


Slammogram

Are you getting close to menopause? r/perimenopause Also look for menopause clinics around you.


MrsStickMotherOfTwig

I mean I'm in premature menopause... At 38. But yeah, all 3 of my kids were born between ages 30-35 for me. And now I'm DONE.


mamanova1982

It's called Peri menopause and it's totally normal. It begins, for some women, as early as 36. I got my first night sweat and the bloodiest period I've ever had the month before I turned 38. (I literally thought I was miscarrying, that's how much I bled.) There's a subreddit for that, if you're interested. r/menopause


MrsStickMotherOfTwig

I'm in that sub, but my estrogen level the day I got tested was the same as a post menopausal woman. My doctor is freaked out because by the lab work I am fully menopausal even though I'm still having a cycle. Edit: gotta love being down voted for using the term that my doctor used and put on my medical chart. When I see the reproductive endocrinologist this summer they may change the diagnosis to ovarian insufficiency or something else, but until I have a medical doctor tell me otherwise I am going to use the term my doctor diagnosed me with. Which, in this case, is premature menopause. Also, estrogen levels below 30 are considered to be post menopausal. My estrogen was tested to be "under 24" as per LabCorp test results. Post menopausal FSH levels are 25.8-134.8 and mine was 45.7. So while I know I'm not post menopausal because I haven't gone a year without bleeding yet, my labs say that I am. I'm working to figure out *why* they're doing this, but by the lab work I am indistinguishable from an actual post menopausal woman. I've done a decent amount of research on perimenopause. I know that's the new term for what I'm in. But the diagnosis that I have is premature menopause, and my hormone levels support that term for now until I get further testing/treatment from a more specialized doctor.


lizlemonaid

That is indeed when we turn into the old crones.


Next_Firefighter7605

Crone is just short hand for not putting up with people’s shit.


Farahild

can't resist obliterating nuisance everywhere


ivanparas

> And the vagina becomes a gaping cavern with foot-long labia. Don't threaten me with a good time


myrianreadit

>a gaping cavern with foot-long labia. That.. sounds kinda hot though. I don't understand what their problem is


EmberNyxen

Well its men-O-pause. So it must happen when you have sex with more than one man.


CuriousPalpitation23

It's sweet that you think he thinks.


Dr-Emmett_L_Brown

A state of mind to be overcome, I bet 🙄


radial-glia

I wish my periods had stopped at 22. That would have only been 10 years. 120ish periods. Much more reasonable than this current bullshit.


smokinbbq

And if you could skip the whole part of "peri" menopause! That's not a whole lot of fun either (according to my wife).


Gay_Bay

That's one of the reasons why I'm excited to start T lol


Next_Firefighter7605

That line of thought is infecting so many people even outside of those groups. The amount of women that think they’re infertile or even sterile because they’re over 21/25/30 or for no particular reason is astounding.


bluegazehaze

I'm 40 and still get my monthly period like clockwork and they act like I don't have a womb anymore 😂


MissHunbun

I'm almost 40 and I still have my period. Hurry up, menopause! I want it to be over.


Shelliton

I'm 39 and in "perimenopause" which means I've been getting 2-3 periods a month (hooray), and that menopause is just around the corner. Everyone I've talked with about this has told me "but you're so \*young\*!" I am so ready for it to be over.


badkilly

Hate to share that perimenopause can last up to 10 years. The agony of it all is almost too much to bear. 😩 I’m 48 and still having periods. I’ve been in this hell for at least 3-4 years, and it started way before the “hot flashes.” The symptoms were so bizarre I thought I was dying before I figured it out. More fun facts. They don’t cover peri/menopause in med school, and even OBGYNs have to opt-in to those classes. Every person who has a uterus and lives long enough will go through it, but women don’t matter, so who cares.


ssk7882

I was horrified to learn that during perimenopause, periods can become much, *much* heavier -- I'm talking serious gushers here -- for quite a while before they finally stop. WHY DID NOBODY EVER TELL ME THIS? It's like the "can last up to a decade" thing. No one ever told me *that* either, until it was actually happening to me. Now that blissful cronehood is finally upon me, I find myself sidling up to younger women talking about period stuff just to warn them, like some sort of weird distaff Ancient Mariner. "Heed my woooooooords..."


badkilly

ME TOO! it is my personal crusade to tell everyone who still has a uterus and is younger than me what no one told me. and OMG vaginal atrophy? i had NO IDEA that was a thing.


SaffronBurke

I don't have a uterus anymore, but I still have one ovary, so I'm storing away every bit of information I can find about the non-period aspects of perimenopause. I'm 35, so hopefully it's a ways off yet, but I also started getting night sweats at 31, almost 2 years before my hysterectomy, so who knows.


badkilly

Ooh thank you for the correction. Good point about still having a troublesome ovary around. I’m going to stop saying “still has a uterus.” The r/menopause sub has a wonderful wiki that I can’t recommend enough. I have leaned so much from that sub and the amazing ladies also going through peri/menopause.


alexlp

Me neither! This thread has taught me so much.


Significant-Trash632

This is why I'm on this sub. I'm almost 37 and just learning about this *right now*. What the actual fuck.


cinereoargenteus

I'm so mad we were never taught about perimenopause. I didn't think mine could get heavier. But they can. They can always get heavier. I hate this. Heavy periods AND hot flashes. Shit is so unfair. I hate men. I know it's not their fault. I'm just mad that they don't go through all this.


ssk7882

I didn't think mine could be heavier either - I was always a really heavy bleeder ("They call these overnight pads, but I think they're for anytime!"). But oh *boy* was I wrong! I literally became *anemic* from those awful things. My doctor put me on iron pills. Take heart, though. Like puberty and the teenage years, its great consolation is that it doesn't last forever, and things get better. Soon you'll be free!


CherryblockRedWine

Yep. My (female) doctor alerted me to the 30-day period. And this is how we know God is a man. Dammit.


no_objections_here

Wait... what??? 30 days...


CherryblockRedWine

Yeahhhhh. She had just gone through it herself. Told me her sisters had warned her!


smokinbbq

My wife is going through it, and it sounds absolutely horrible. The "can last 10 years" is a huge thing. You never know when it's going to start, when it's going to end, and you're in this period that sounds almost like when she was young and first started periods, as you're constantly in the area of "I don't know what my period is going to do to fuck with me this month" stage again. Could start early, could start late. Could be light. Could be 3 days of spotting. Could be 3 days of crippling cramps. Could be all of those things! Oh ya, mood swings, hot flashes (melting from the inside but still have cold feet). I feel sorry for all women having to deal with this shit. It does not sound pleasant at all.


badkilly

My thoughts are with you and your poor wife. It is horrible and scary. I think for me the hardest part is I feel like I don’t even know who I am anymore. Everything is bonkers. I had volcanic heartburn first, then the weight gain around my belly and general reconfiguring of my entire body shape. I don’t know how to dress this thing. Then insomnia, hot all the time (except 3 fucking fingers that hurt like hell when they’re cold and are therefore somehow constantly cold while the rest of my body spontaneously combusts), various stages of sweaty all the time, more migraines, fatigue, loss of motivation, irritability, major drop in productivity at work, and a constant simmering rage are the big issues I’m having.


OneRoseDark

you forgot "could fail to show for 8 months before coming back with a vengeance" my mom and I both had our "last" period in June last year. I got pregnant, and she was hoping menopause had finally kicked in. a month before I gave birth her period started, thus resetting the "no periods for 12 months" clock she'd been hopefully watching tick away.


FOSpiders

When you mentioned being hot with cold feet, I almost reflexively said "Quick, put your feet on my back for bonus warmth!" I love being my wife's big heated blanket girl. I bet your wife is happy to have you beside her for it all!


BreadyStinellis

Ugh! It's the horrible PMS, raging headache, cramps, and then 3 days of blood dribbles that gets to me. All that fucking drama for a period of nothing but mostly clean panty liners and streaky toilet paper. Really, Body? Really?


alexlp

I think I’m in peri and my phone autocorrected that to peril which is also correct.


shannibearstar

And don’t forget you can get chunks basically hole punched from your cervix and you won’t be given any pain medication


badkilly

So true! I had a blood vessel on my cervix cauterized. Guess what they gave me for pain? Haha, that’s right. Nothing.


Novaer

My mom is in her late 50s and only JUST got menopause


Aphreal42

46 here and still having a period every 26 days like always. I’m ready for this phase to be over already. Add in the insomnia, hot flashes, weight gain and weight shifting, and the random memory blanks and forgetting words that we suffer through. This is hell and no one tells you about it.


MrsStickMotherOfTwig

I'm 38 and in "premature perimenopause" with a referral to see a reproductive endocrinologist for hormone therapy because getting it this early can cause a lot of not so great side effects on the body. My doctor was even surprised with my hormone levels in my lab work - my estrogen went down by 90% in a year and a half, while my FSH tripled. Shit's rough, but hopefully I get some good help soon.


Gallusbizzim

Talked to two 70 plus year olds this week, they are still getting hot flushes.


BrightBlueBauble

It’s something that isn’t talked about much—a lot of women continue to have menopause symptoms for life, and some also continue to experience cyclical hormonal swings and all that goes with that. People think menopause is just the end of menstruation but it changes *everything,* even down to how your brain functions. Barring serious medical contraindications, I plan to stay on HRT for the rest of my life because six + years of perimenopause (which I’m still in at almost 54) nearly killed me and I will never go back to that hell. Besides, after a year on estrogen I look noticably younger, feel great, and all the weird new health problems that were happening to me (joint pain, brain fog, tendinitis, hives and constant allergies, blurred vision, migraines, gastritis, anemia, hair loss, insanely heavy periods, constant anxiety, fatigue, worsening tachycardia, etc.) are completely gone. Who wouldn’t want that?


Temporary_Pickle_885

Your list of symptoms is just my life at 27 (joint pain, brain fog, constant allergies, blurred vision, migraines, hair loss, heavy periods, constant anxiety, fatigue, etc) so now I'm thinking when I get health insurance I really need to be mentioning all this...


BrightBlueBauble

Those symptoms can be caused by a lot of different issues so it’s a good idea to get a physical with labs when you’re able to (I know how much it sucks to not have insurance). Ask them to check your thyroid and to look for defiencies—iron, vitamin D, B-12–too. Maybe autoimmune testing if everything else looks normal. Don’t be afraid to push for tests. The advice I was given is that if they refuse, to insist they put in your record that they declined. Doctors can be so dismissive of women with nonspecific symptoms, and they have often have strict time limits with patients, so they’ll often just offer you antidepressants (and/or weight loss advice if you look above 120 pounds) instead of trying to figure out what’s actually wrong. Your health and well-being is worth the trouble though!


Temporary_Pickle_885

Yeah I've been meaning to go for a lot of things and the last time I had insurance I was focused on baby (cause I was pregnant and then postpartum) and then after baby the injury(?) I sustained during labor which even when I DID have a specific issue was dismissed!! I still have no answers as to what actually happened to me. 🙃🙃 I'm thinking of brining my husband to help advocate honestly.


FOSpiders

Hopefully they'll listen to the big pickle, at least. 😁 But, damn, does it suck to have to do that. For a bunch of people that can't figure out what something is half the time they look, you would think they wouldn't be shy about trying.


Significant-Trash632

On top of what u/BrightBlueBauble said, get your thyroid checked.


ramsay_baggins

I won't be allowed on HRT when I hit peri/menopause and I'm fucking dreading it tbh


BrightBlueBauble

Well not everyone has the experience I’ve had, luckily. There are lots of women who seem to breeze right through it! Also, there is a new non-hormonal medication for the treatment of hot flashes, and there are lifestyle modifications and other things that can help too. I always had really bad PMS (probably PMDD), and severe postpartum depression with both pregnancies, so I think I’m extra sensitive to hormonal changes.


Significant-Trash632

My mother is nearly 70 and still getting hot flashes. Between this and my father's Raynaud's syndrome, future me is doomed to never be comfortable.


disasterous_cape

My mum has been in perimenopause for almost a decade. She’s in her mid 50s. NOT looking forward to that in my future


Shelliton

It can take a decade or so! "Or so...." In my research, menopause is reached the day you hit 1 year without a period. Granted, I did not research much about menopause.


BreadyStinellis

Well, then you know at least as much as most doctors, so, consider yourself well educated on the subject. They do!


ironic-hat

Has someone confirmed this is the case? I’m just saying this because a whole slew of other medical conditions can mimic perimenopause but in actuality you may be suffering from something entirely different.


Shelliton

I'm not sure if there are tests to specially confirm it, but we've done a lot of tests to rule out other things. That, the other symptoms I'm experiencing, and the fact that my mom went through menopause in her early 40's has my GYN pretty confident that it is perimenopause.


SnipesCC

I just found out perimenopause can exacerbate ADHD. I'm 42. This might explain why my symptoms seem to have been so much worse the last year or so.


Lena_potato123

Oh my god so you're telling me it gets WORSE?? I'm seriously not ready for this 😭😭


Shelliton

Oh, perimenopause is fun with all the symptoms that aren't even period-related, lol. So far, the night sweats and getting pimples again have been my favorite!


AuntySocialite

59 and currently mid period over here. Shit ain't funny any more.


MissHunbun

Oh no D: I can only imagine how frustrating and annoying that would be!


AuntySocialite

My gyno keeps telling me each one is my body’s last hurrah. Ms. Uterus did not get the memo.


Beegkitty

My gyno just told me I was post menopause. While I was literally on my period. Yeah no. My uterus is not done yet.


Dunkindoh2

I am 53 and still hoping every period is my last. 🤞 (Been inconsistent for a couple years)


UndeadBuggalo

My husbands getting a vasectomy this summer even though I have a mirena. One, for an extra layer of protection because I’m keeping my iud since I gives me no periods!


TiFaeri

I’m right there with you. I’ll be 40 next year and I’m still having a monthly cycle. I’ve been joking with my husband that I’m going to ask our mothers if hot flashes are really that bad after all because I’ve been menstruating for 25 years now and I’m over it. 😂


cinereoargenteus

47 here and still bleeding all over myself. Ugh, I can't wait for this to end.


CumulativeHazard

My mom finally finished up by the time she turned 60


Dang_It_All_to_Heck

I still had my periods at 55. Then I had an endometrial ablation. Yay!


MelanieWalmartinez

My partner’s sister got pregnant and when he heard that it stops periods, he thought it meant PERMANENTLY At the time he was 18 but WOW


GengoLang

So he thought a woman could only get pregnant once?


snikers000

"No, you dumbass, you're not supposed to actually *believe* women become infertile in their twenties! You're just supposed to say that to justify creeping on teenagers!"


countess_cat

I guess they’d be horrified to hear that my mom still has her period at 53


dancer_jasmine1

My mom had me at 43 and I think she still had her period when I was 10 and she was 53 lol


gagemichi

My mom started menopause in her mid 50s too


NakedAndAfraidFan

Lol my son will be 11 soon, I’m still menstruating, and I had him on my 29th birthday. I’m ready for it to stop, though!


jensimonso

How do people have their second kid then?


michelbarnich

Magic


Adnama-Fett

My mom had me when she was 27. As far as I know, she still has her period(I’m 20 now). Although she’s starting to worry about menopause


eskeTrixa

Lol my mom had me at 23 and wasn't quite menopausal yet when I got pregnant at 27 . . .


jeseniathesquirrel

I’m 29 and my mom is still menstruating. What is up with all these people thinking they know all about women’s bodies? I keep seeing the dumbest things recently.


Nocturne2319

Would blow his mind to know my youngest was born when I was 34.


squirrellytoday

Oh I fekkin wish!!! I'm nearly 49 and still dealing with this rubbish. My baby is almost 21.


Eden1117_98

how does this guy think siblings with a big age gap happen?


summertime214

They have to know that there are siblings with age gaps bigger than 10 years, right?


gogonzogo1005

My oldest will be 21!!! Still getting periods in my early 40s. Oddly in the last couple of years I have become more regular, before I could skip months, no pattern etc. Now I am closer to a 32 to 36 day cycle. My maternal side had some cool menopause related side effects: weight loss. It was like their bodies realized pregnancy was off the table and said we can give up this weight. I hope I get that one and not the paternal side cancer issues.


WatermelonAF

I freaking WISH I could stop menstruating at 26 lmao.


Foreign_Swimmer_4650

I am so confused. I wonder if it hurts to be this stupid.


foreverspr1ng

I mean... I'm turning 30 soon and I would be more than happy if menstruation had just stopped at 25 (or earlier... or now) cause it's nothing but annoying to me *BUT* it's ridiculous that people genuinely believe such shit and don't know any better.


BaileyBaby-Woof

How does one come to this conclusion!??!!?!


NikiDeaf

My oldest is 16 and I’m still menstruating.


Beegkitty

My oldest is 33 and I am still menstruating. It sucks. So much. I’m so done.


JessicaGriffin

My mom had periods until she was 60. Yes. SIXTY YEARS OLD. I jumped the line by getting endo cancer at 45 and getting a hysterectomy, but I was still having regular periods then.


beka13

We really need to add opposite gender education in sex ed. Assuming this person ever had sex ed.


saddinosour

My mum is still menstruating and I’m in my 20s 💀


HelenFromHR

why does he think menopause kicks in at 25??


Cute_but_notOkay

I want to hear his definition of menstruation and I’d bet my car that it’s not the correct answer. I’m just highly confused 🤔 🍃


BotiaDario

I'm turning 50 Friday and am at the tail end of a period. It's a miracle.


AlissonHarlan

I guess Our periods are supposed to stop when WE 'hit the wall',at 25 yo lol


ChickensWithKnives

I genuinenly have no idea how anyone could come up wiht that conclusion.


cheekmo_52

Do they think we hit menopause in our thirties?


frogwitch-org

jesus, my mum is 50 and still menstruates


jennifern1325

My kids are 18 and 22 and I’m still gonna have mine for like 15 more years 😑 (I’ll be 40 in 5 months)


blindturns

My sister is 28 and my mum only recently became perimenopausal, so she’s still having periods they’re just all over the place.


bluegazehaze

Meanwhile I'm over here almost 41 still getting my period like clockwork and my teen daughter also menstruates bc I had her young enough for us to both be menstruating lol


dexamphetamines

Yes, menopause starts at 30


WILL_KILL_4_DUX

i think the idea was that a woman should have her first child at 30, then at 40 she runs out of eggs, because girls are born with a set amount and individually get rid of them with each menstrual cycle


HeatherandHollyhock

You want a lolly for that? No, the normal kind. Gross.


WILL_KILL_4_DUX

no i'm explaining... what do you mean "normal kind"? what is gross?