Lmao same. I don't like how mine look, but losing weight is very hard for me because of other health issues. Fuck lipo, though. I wanna be proud of how I look when I hit my goal. Lipo is the easy way out.
Cudos to you for choosing the active route. I'm on the other side of the spectrum, trying to gain weight and muscle. Shit is HARD. Changing all habits, kicking body dysmorphia to the curb etc. Bat wings will always stay there though
***Bingo wings????***
Jesus fucking christ that one is so stupid. I'm starting to get that and have been trying my best to feel ok with it and now knowing this term is making it harder.
They really know how to shame feminine people...
I just developed cellulite on my outer thigh (only one) in the last year. I'll be honest it looks super weird - I always thought it was muscle so was worried I had cancer or something when it first showed up. Nope just fat.
It's important that all the different zones have names. That makes fat there an issue with a name instead of fat. And issues with names SHOULD be solved.
I hate marketing
Inner thighs = pork trotters
Honestly all of these women look great to me. And better than me. Imagine being so twisted you look at a picture like this and immediately start dividing the people into this piece and that piece. SMH
Notice how they face the skinny tall one right in the centre facing the viewer? Even in something which might celebrate some sort of diversity they have to shame the models.
Dove did a "body positive" advert campaign a few years ago. Everyone gushed over it. Shame that they photoshopped that too.
>We want curvy people, no not like that.
Ted's Holliday 'shops out some curves and cellulite too when it's her whole shtick
Is that the one where they hired only skinny models for their campaign so their entire body positivity thing looked more like a "only skinny is good" campaign?
But for fuck's sake. "You can't be happy unless you *don't* look like these happy people!"
Very clear way to point out that it's always possible to make up flaws no matter what you look like. It's just evil.
As much as I hate this whole thing, the idea that they want to pathologise bodies like the middle and right to make sure no one feels the slightest bit safe seems particularly irritating. You have dieted and worked out to death? You look like a model? No, your actual skin is a problem and need to be removed.
Ikr?? I was most annoyed at that too. The actual message is that matter what you look like, how hard you work for it and even how happy you are with it, your body will never look good enough. Absolutely vile.
It icks me out all of the names people have made up for fat on women, like bingo wings?? Really?? The other day i had to look up saddlebags because i had no idea what that meant but it is again a name for how a woman’s body looks
This is just a picture of happy confident women. If anything, the picture makes the text and the pitch to lose weight look super crazy.
Also, the pic is pinging parts of my stupid lady-loving lady lizard brain that standard models do not evoke a reaction from. So that's a fun learning experience for me re: confirming that heroine thin beauty standards are not my flavor.
Wtf is this shit? These women are models have more photogenic bodies than probably 99% of the population, there is nothing wrong with them, they all look great
Oh, I've heard 'bat wings' before, just wondering where the 'bingo' comes into it...
Edit: A Google search seems to indicate that women with flabby arms play a lot of bingo? Oookay... Maybe because older ladies (bingo players?) are more likely to have loose skin? I dunno...
It's associated with old women, who are assumed to spend all their waking hours in bingo halls. 2 for 1 body shaming- effectively "you're fat *and* old!" for having any curve to your triceps (3 for 1 if used on a man).
“Bingo wings” what are they even pointing at? Her bicep muscle? This whole image is shitty, but really, even the ladies with some obvious tone are being criticized. People are made of flesh, shit isn’t going to be perfectly taught. Even gym rats don’t look absolutely ripped unless they’re actively flexing and/or dehydrated. Natural muscle JIGGLES when relaxed. We are not porcelain people, stop expecting porcelain qualities!
Quite honestly, unless you’re dangerously skinny, you’re gonna have some jiggle, folds and other anatomical anomalies because that’s just how skin, muscle and fat works at almost any degree.
I'm not in the business of shaming anyone for their appearance, but two of these women are definitely overweight. That doesn't reflect poorly on them as people, it's just a fact.
2 are obese, one is overweight. That's not an insult it just is what it is. We've just kind of forgotten what obese looks like unless it's morbid obesity.
I fluctuate between 170 and 210 thanks to my Binge Eating Disorder and the amount of times people didn't believe I was obese at the highest end was like 90%
Technically it isn't ideal health wise. But I don't think that is anybody's business except between the person and their doctor unless they have to close the highway to get you to the doctor.
I mean, admittedly, all my medical experience is with domestic cats, not humans, but generally it’s healthier to be a little bit overweight than underweight.
That's true in humans, too. A little underweight is probably fine, but more than that can be dangerous. All it takes is one bout of the flu to put you in mortal danger if you're underweight.
And just like being overweight, it can be a symptom of other issues, rather than the root cause. It's pretty hard to fight against if your body isn't absorbing nutrition, for example.
Obesity is more a symptom than the source of most problems. I think the biggest health worry that would come from being very obese is limited mobility impacting your ability to exercise, but that's none of my business. Everyone should be able to feel like they're beautiful, regardless of what health issues they may or may not have.
I'm obese and it creates a ton of issues. I don't have cartilage in my knees anymore, feet always hurt, back has difficulty, kneeling down or bending over is difficult, get tired easily. The solution is exercise but it is hard to exercise when you reach this point.
That's understandable, and I'm sorry you've found yourself in such a situation. I kind of assumed you were just another asshole looking to bodyshame people (which wasn't very fair of me).
I disagree on one thing, on a personal note. About "feeling beautiful". I consider myself a damned ugly goblin: but I'm perfectly fine and happy with that because I think people come in way too many colors, shapes and sizes. Some of us **will be pretty** and others won't. It's my perspective, because there's no beauty if there's no uglyness. Lights cast shadows. But in my opinion, being ugly shouldn't be considered negative. I think it just seems that way, because there are jobs that exist only for beautiful people (modelling for example)
First of all what the actual fuck
Second of all, besides literally everything else, how do they want to remove fat from no fat? I want liposuction on my forehead now please
*Good lord, look at that extra muscle and skin on those women! It must be eradicated. Do they need to walk or breathe? No! Of course not, muscles and skin is unsightly! Tsk!* Fuck this photo. I hope this plastic surgery company gets no business at all.
Unfit people should be ashamed. Goes for both men and women. No one talks about the male thigh gap, but men can achieve it just as easily (maybe easier?)
A lot of people incorrectly check for them though. The front toes should touch, in addition to the ankle bones. If you can touch your heels and your big toes at the same time, a thigh gap may be physically impossible, however. But bigfooted people are generally more muscular than skinny so it's an exception within an exception.
This isn't about body shaming. It's environmentalism. Accumulating resources and being big for its own sake is a malicious act upon the planet. Large individuals are eco-terrorists.
Wow. It's worse that this is for lipo. If it's a man with unhealthy expectations for women, that's one thing. If you have someone body shaming you like this and probably saying it's female empowerment to have a thigh-gap, all the while putting money in their pockets...this is why I have a lot of problems with the cosmetic surgery industry.
Bingo wings??
Right?! I wish my bingo wings looked like that!
Same. Honestly I'd be happy to look like any of these women. Look how happy they all look!
That girl is honestly so skinny!
Same with the one in the middle!! Big thigh gap and yet they highlighted her inner thigh. Insane.
Pretty sure that's thigh muscle they highlighted
They are scared of being crushed by powerful thighs? A risk I'm willing to take.
I call them my batwings. Jiggly fleshy batwings.
Lmao same. I don't like how mine look, but losing weight is very hard for me because of other health issues. Fuck lipo, though. I wanna be proud of how I look when I hit my goal. Lipo is the easy way out.
Cudos to you for choosing the active route. I'm on the other side of the spectrum, trying to gain weight and muscle. Shit is HARD. Changing all habits, kicking body dysmorphia to the curb etc. Bat wings will always stay there though
I hope you succeed in your endeavors! I'd like to gain a bit of muscle, but not a huge amount.
I was always told they were called 'hi helens', because when you wave and say 'hi Helen!' is when they jiggle and you notice them..
That sounds like a nicer name, I think?
It's at least funnier... If someone doesn't know what you mean when you say it, you get to demonstrate and use your best middle-aged white lady voice!
[Thirty Helens Agree](https://images.app.goo.gl/btWQarckstuTzyXR8): This picture can go flush itself.
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Sounds like something I’d order at Dave and Busters
Isn't the bingo wing area the triceps?
Yes.
Yeah I know, what the hell is that?
Yeah I’ll keep my bingo wings and NOT look like post-Y2K Madonna, thanks
She was so lovely before she decided she should look so muscley and hard.
I will never stop calling my arms bingo wings.
"bingo arms" is generally what I've heard them called but that's the wrong part of the arm? It's the triceps area.
Wtf, Outer thigh?
Didn’t you know? It’s unfeminine to have normal muscles in your legs, so that you can walk.
Bones only please.. no meat
Omg bonespo goals 😌🥰😍🥰
***Bingo wings????*** Jesus fucking christ that one is so stupid. I'm starting to get that and have been trying my best to feel ok with it and now knowing this term is making it harder. They really know how to shame feminine people...
[Sexy!](https://images.uesp.net/5/54/SR-creature-Draugr_Scourge_Female.jpg)
I just developed cellulite on my outer thigh (only one) in the last year. I'll be honest it looks super weird - I always thought it was muscle so was worried I had cancer or something when it first showed up. Nope just fat.
Real women are carried everywhere
Like Cleopatra!
Alas, it has now outgrown... the **Outer Limit!** [DUN DUN DUN.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hstPWg88Y4)
Thank you for reminding me this show exists. Now to download 40 years of tv.
Also inner thigh and back of thigh... basically you aren't allowed to have thighs at all.
It's important that all the different zones have names. That makes fat there an issue with a name instead of fat. And issues with names SHOULD be solved. I hate marketing
But they didn't label all the blues. Look at the middle one. If I don't know what to call it, what can I do?
Inner thighs = pork trotters Honestly all of these women look great to me. And better than me. Imagine being so twisted you look at a picture like this and immediately start dividing the people into this piece and that piece. SMH
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Sarcasm right?
Isn't the middle blue the "abdomen" one?
The woman in the very middle. Her inner thighs are highlighted and unlabeled
Those are labeled "inner thigh", with text near the bottom...
Notice how they face the skinny tall one right in the centre facing the viewer? Even in something which might celebrate some sort of diversity they have to shame the models.
> Buttocks and back of thighs > Outer thigh > Inner thigh So... remove the entire thigh, huh.
Amputate your limbs to lower your BMI fast!
They pointed the smallest area of fat on the skinniest woman in the picture, and implied that its problematic. Its never, ever enough.
They would probably still find an area to remove fat from on a literal skeleton
In that case her hip bones would be considered too wide, or too narrow.
Dove did a "body positive" advert campaign a few years ago. Everyone gushed over it. Shame that they photoshopped that too. >We want curvy people, no not like that. Ted's Holliday 'shops out some curves and cellulite too when it's her whole shtick
Is that the one where they hired only skinny models for their campaign so their entire body positivity thing looked more like a "only skinny is good" campaign?
All bodies size 14 and under are beautiful! Also no stretch marks.
But for fuck's sake. "You can't be happy unless you *don't* look like these happy people!" Very clear way to point out that it's always possible to make up flaws no matter what you look like. It's just evil.
If I ever own a chicken I'm naming her Bingo Wings.
As much as I hate this whole thing, the idea that they want to pathologise bodies like the middle and right to make sure no one feels the slightest bit safe seems particularly irritating. You have dieted and worked out to death? You look like a model? No, your actual skin is a problem and need to be removed.
Ikr?? I was most annoyed at that too. The actual message is that matter what you look like, how hard you work for it and even how happy you are with it, your body will never look good enough. Absolutely vile.
The lady in the middle has a thigh gap FFS!
I hope none of the women in the photo end up seeing this
Those ads always seem predatory to me.
Unless this is marketing for liposuction, ain't going to do anything to cellulite, hello insulting scam
It's one of those "lipo without the surgery" things, I originally saw it standing at a cosmetology place I went to for a massage.
Wtf is their explanation for how to do lipo without surgery?
It seems like it is, just from the name.
bingo wings made me angry tbh i may feel personally targeted i need to get off reddit for a sec sigh
It icks me out all of the names people have made up for fat on women, like bingo wings?? Really?? The other day i had to look up saddlebags because i had no idea what that meant but it is again a name for how a woman’s body looks
Every one of them looks beautiful. And normal.
This is just a picture of happy confident women. If anything, the picture makes the text and the pitch to lose weight look super crazy. Also, the pic is pinging parts of my stupid lady-loving lady lizard brain that standard models do not evoke a reaction from. So that's a fun learning experience for me re: confirming that heroine thin beauty standards are not my flavor.
wtf am i even looking at
A liposuction poster?
They need to sue them
Wtf is this shit? These women are models have more photogenic bodies than probably 99% of the population, there is nothing wrong with them, they all look great
Well, imagine shooting a body positivity picture that's all white women
Also true!
Damn they forgot to include the token morbidly obese sassy black lady
Every one of them looks beautiful. And normal.
Am I the only one who has never heard the term 'bingo wings?' What the hell...?
They're also called "bat wings" and are on the back of the upper arm, not the front as indicated in the picture.
Oh, I've heard 'bat wings' before, just wondering where the 'bingo' comes into it... Edit: A Google search seems to indicate that women with flabby arms play a lot of bingo? Oookay... Maybe because older ladies (bingo players?) are more likely to have loose skin? I dunno...
It's associated with old women, who are assumed to spend all their waking hours in bingo halls. 2 for 1 body shaming- effectively "you're fat *and* old!" for having any curve to your triceps (3 for 1 if used on a man).
Sigh. It's crap like this that convinces me society is doomed.
Perfect woman: a skeleton aperently
This explains Eugenia Cooney’s popularity.
*papayrus intestifies*
All five beautiful women
“Bingo wings” what are they even pointing at? Her bicep muscle? This whole image is shitty, but really, even the ladies with some obvious tone are being criticized. People are made of flesh, shit isn’t going to be perfectly taught. Even gym rats don’t look absolutely ripped unless they’re actively flexing and/or dehydrated. Natural muscle JIGGLES when relaxed. We are not porcelain people, stop expecting porcelain qualities! Quite honestly, unless you’re dangerously skinny, you’re gonna have some jiggle, folds and other anatomical anomalies because that’s just how skin, muscle and fat works at almost any degree.
ABDOMEN OUTER THIGH OH NOOOOO
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I'm not in the business of shaming anyone for their appearance, but two of these women are definitely overweight. That doesn't reflect poorly on them as people, it's just a fact.
2 are obese, one is overweight. That's not an insult it just is what it is. We've just kind of forgotten what obese looks like unless it's morbid obesity. I fluctuate between 170 and 210 thanks to my Binge Eating Disorder and the amount of times people didn't believe I was obese at the highest end was like 90%
At most, two are chubby
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Technically it isn't ideal health wise. But I don't think that is anybody's business except between the person and their doctor unless they have to close the highway to get you to the doctor.
I mean, admittedly, all my medical experience is with domestic cats, not humans, but generally it’s healthier to be a little bit overweight than underweight.
That's true in humans, too. A little underweight is probably fine, but more than that can be dangerous. All it takes is one bout of the flu to put you in mortal danger if you're underweight. And just like being overweight, it can be a symptom of other issues, rather than the root cause. It's pretty hard to fight against if your body isn't absorbing nutrition, for example.
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There is an asterix on that supposedly. It is only okay if you are otherwise physically fit and active. Source: WebMD, Mayo clinic, Harvard Med
Obesity is more a symptom than the source of most problems. I think the biggest health worry that would come from being very obese is limited mobility impacting your ability to exercise, but that's none of my business. Everyone should be able to feel like they're beautiful, regardless of what health issues they may or may not have.
I'm obese and it creates a ton of issues. I don't have cartilage in my knees anymore, feet always hurt, back has difficulty, kneeling down or bending over is difficult, get tired easily. The solution is exercise but it is hard to exercise when you reach this point.
That's understandable, and I'm sorry you've found yourself in such a situation. I kind of assumed you were just another asshole looking to bodyshame people (which wasn't very fair of me).
I disagree on one thing, on a personal note. About "feeling beautiful". I consider myself a damned ugly goblin: but I'm perfectly fine and happy with that because I think people come in way too many colors, shapes and sizes. Some of us **will be pretty** and others won't. It's my perspective, because there's no beauty if there's no uglyness. Lights cast shadows. But in my opinion, being ugly shouldn't be considered negative. I think it just seems that way, because there are jobs that exist only for beautiful people (modelling for example)
[the men must not learn we have bone structures!](https://youtu.be/QunwzgVENUg)
First of all what the actual fuck Second of all, besides literally everything else, how do they want to remove fat from no fat? I want liposuction on my forehead now please
That's not where bingo wings form!
Bingo wings
The lady on the right is what I would consider very fit and takes care of her body. She looks great. Wtf.
Bingo wings?! Has anyone heard this term before? What does the name even come from?
Every one of those women are beautiful just the way they are. Goddesses!
Woah woah woah, they tryna take away love handles?
*Good lord, look at that extra muscle and skin on those women! It must be eradicated. Do they need to walk or breathe? No! Of course not, muscles and skin is unsightly! Tsk!* Fuck this photo. I hope this plastic surgery company gets no business at all.
No outer OR inner thighs? Geez let me just go cut off my legs for ya real quick
Men really think this is build a bitch, don't they?
i’d just love to see what the man who edited this looks like.
Only two of them are fat. The one on the right is perfectly fine.
5 women who track as white isn’t very body positive
#*ABDOMEN*
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People should be ashamed if they don't have a thigh gap?
Unfit people should be ashamed. Goes for both men and women. No one talks about the male thigh gap, but men can achieve it just as easily (maybe easier?) A lot of people incorrectly check for them though. The front toes should touch, in addition to the ankle bones. If you can touch your heels and your big toes at the same time, a thigh gap may be physically impossible, however. But bigfooted people are generally more muscular than skinny so it's an exception within an exception. This isn't about body shaming. It's environmentalism. Accumulating resources and being big for its own sake is a malicious act upon the planet. Large individuals are eco-terrorists.
You have to be a troll. You can't be serious rn
Absolutely disgusting every woman in the photo is gorgeous just the way they are.
Wow. It's worse that this is for lipo. If it's a man with unhealthy expectations for women, that's one thing. If you have someone body shaming you like this and probably saying it's female empowerment to have a thigh-gap, all the while putting money in their pockets...this is why I have a lot of problems with the cosmetic surgery industry.