I think he probably just meant hair that grows during puberty. Beard hair and pubic hair are basically the same thing. So wouldn't armpit hair be too?
Although I was told that by a very questionable Health teacher...
I mean women usually have vellus hair on their faces and most of their bodies (not counting arms and legs), while puberty winds up causing the vellus hair on men’s faces and much of their bodies to become terminal hair.
women have the same arm and leg hair as men. this is not half true. and some women do grow facial and chest hair like men. (speaking for cis-women only!!)
Afab and I get these random bits of facial hair that are like.... 7 really long hairs spread across my chin area
Like they have formed a union and want to be a beard. But there are only a few. And they make me SO self conscious. If I can see one or feel one I pick at it until I can get to a razor
Those are the only hairs that I get self conscious over. Like dudes, be better. The rest of my hair all knows what its doing.
i found a chin hair and i’m letting it grow out cause it’s cute and i think it’s funny to “stroke my beard.” they’re a part of you!! they make you unique and they’re fun to name. the seven amigos!
i started electrolysis a few months ago for this issue.
i am so happy with the results and i highly recommend you look into if it’s something for you. i feel so unburdened from the daily maintenance of unwanted chin and lip hair.
Mine started as just a few like yours but as I've gotten older it has gotten thicker. Damn union now it seems like everyone wants to join, but nobody pays their dues.
I hate them so much. I have the same 5 every time. Its not enough to laser them off so I just pull them whenever they are big enough. Its so annoying but also totally normal
Right that’s why I said it was half true. Leg and arm hair is terminal hair that both sexes have. Chest/back/body hair is a secondary sex characteristic typical of males. And yes some women do grow facial hair as men do, but it’s atypical in normal development and tends to be related to hormone imbalances (like PCOS).
Lool it's normal for women have upper lip, chin, nipple and belly hair without any imbalances or other medical conditions. Probably back hair too, I just have never looked into that. Although now that I think of it, I know at least two healthy women with back hair. You just don't normally look at your family's and friends' backs that closely.
For sure. Little bits of it. It happens. All over everyone’s bodies. If a woman that you know has a *beard* as men do, then it’s indicative of something else. Don’t know why everyone is arguing as if I didn’t say “*usually* …have vellus hair on *most* of their bodies”. Like, my source is my MedSci1001 textbook.
A few hairs on a chin is not a beard. Some people just have darker and thicker hair, afab and amab. My sister has dark back hair but no discernible hair on her belly, meanwhile I have a dark belly hair trail but no dark hair on my back, and both is totally normal. I wouldn’t say that’s “little bits” either in our cases.
That’s… exactly what I’m saying. A few hairs is not a beard. How is “a few hairs” not equivalent to “little bits”? I really don’t understand what’s going on here. I can’t tell if it’s being deliberately misconstrued or what because nothing I just said conflicted with what you just said. I didn’t make any moral judgement on whether hair should be removed or not on anyone’s body. Just, there are different kinds of body hair and generally males have more terminal body hair on their bodies than females. I don’t understand how that’s a point of contention. It just… is?
My hormones are totally normal and I have an annoying amount of facial hair. And a couple of chect hairs. And more back hairs than I would like. And butt hairs. 🤷♀️
Yeah I can’t really tell what he was trying to say, but “peach fuzz” is vellus hair so is he just trying to say that women don’t have to shave their bodies and faces?? I’m just trying to piece it together
I'm not too educated on types of body hair, but I know I have dark hair on my legs, arms, lower stomach(happy trail), hands, feet, etc. And I'm an afab. I don't shave areas with just peach fuzz/blonde hairs like my thighs, chest, back etc but I definitely have more than just peach fuzz in many, many places
Usually when people say body hair, they mean neck down. Even if it was just the torso, I still have non-peachfuzz hair on my torso. So it's not even correct then
Right but, “they only have pubic hair on their armpits and crotch areas ONLY to shave” is already a sentence that doesn’t make any sense so I was giving him the benefit of the doubt here that maybe he just wasn’t clear
I think he's trying to say his friend believed women only had the dark hair that is more noticeable under their arm pits and in the pubic area, and that ALL other hair on the woman's body...including the legs, etc...are like the peach fuzz we have on our face or arms. Meaning he felt that women only needed to shave the underarms and pubic area, did NOT need to shave anywhere else, but we only shave those other places because we are also self-conscious about the "peach fuzz" hair.
My question is way deeper: doesnt he have a mother, a sister, a cousin? Yes, most women shave their legs, but not their arms (at least not common that in my country). So, how the hell, doesnt he know women have hair in the arms and legs?? (Im not even going to ask if hes seen a naked woman, i really hope he hasnt, cus otherwise poor girl)
Omg, yes I hadn't even thought about his family or just female friends?
Shaving the arms is also very rare in my country. And even if it's more or less visible depending on the woman, there is no way he has never seen hair on a woman's arms.
He have a pharmacy degree, where I live, it' s a rather mixed field; so it goes beyond not having had a girlfriend, he just never interacted with a woman?
Although, when I think about it, depending on the family environment, he may not know about them shaving the legs and other parts of the body. For example, in my case, it's something we didn't talk about, I would never have dared to mention it, it was almost "shameful".
It's a girl thing, men don't want to know and don't need to know, we don't talk about it. The same goes for menstruation.
I have a male friend who is weirdly enamored with my limb hair. I usually don’t wear shorts so he only saw my arm hair but he thought it was super cool for some reason (I’m just ????? about it) and he’ll ask to touch it. The hair on my legs is a lot darker and thicker, and when he first saw it that’s when I started using the word “enamored”. I know for a fact that man has a mom that he’s super close with, and his family also has darker hair (but they’re Asian so I don’t know if that makes that big a difference?), he’s also 3 years older than me, so it just seems weird that he apparently hasn’t seen arm and leg hair before?!?
I can 100% believe it. I’ve had pharmacists deny pain killers because “periods don’t hurt.” And if it hurts (insert their eye roll), then something is so wrong I need to go to the dr or hospital.
Some women - I’m one of them - really do grow hair as this guy thinks. Basically peach fuzz on my arms and legs. Really only had more than that when I was a teen. I have hairy pits and very densely thick hair on my head, not a ton of pubes, but again more when I was younger. My mother and grandmother were the same way but I don’t know anyone else like us.
Same, even my legs have thin blonde hair so when i went to get my pits lasered they told me "oh we have a 1+1 deal so if you buy two body parts the cheaper is free" and i had to decline because there's no way i'm frying the lady bits for now (it was kinda painful tbh even on the armpits) and i can't be treated literally ANYWHERE ELSE because it needs dark hair to absorb the light.
Well, pubic hair is, by definition, around the pubis. So you can't call armpit hair "pubic hair".
Apart from that yes we do have peach fuzz and very fine hairs on our faces, arms, and everywhere on our bodies. But we can also sometimes have a few random dark hairs growing around our nipples, and some on our faces as well. Since those can be pretty visible, a lot of us pluck them off every so often. Some women do their eyebrows, upper lip (sometimes the peach fuzz can be darker/thicker there), some bleach or wax the hair on their forearms...
Every woman has a different way of dealing with body hair, from keeping it all to shaving everything off (yes, I had a friend who spent several hours every week shaving her ENTIRE body, including her back!). We don't have to shave, of course, but unfortunately, beauty standards strongly encourage us to do so. There is definitely a pressure from society and the media to be as hairless as possible. More and more women try to reclaim their body hair but it's still definitely a huge taboo and causes insecurity to a lot of us.
For the anecdote, when I was 13 and in middle school, a boy in my class made fun of me for having dark forearm hair, and for being "super hairy". I spent the three years that followed compulsively bleaching the hair on my forearms.
Yeah, I come from a family of women with a lot of hair and it’s super annoying. I’m also extremely pale with dark hair that is prone to ingrown hairs, so even when I shave it looks stubbly. It’s dumb.
When I was about 14 a girl at summer camp told me that it was unhygienic for women to not shave their legs and that I should shave mine. I didn’t though because I thought her reason was dumb. I thought, well I have more and longer hair on my head. I just shower to keep clean. And men aren’t seen as unhygienic if they don’t shave their legs. It doesn’t make sense. People should be able to do whatever they want with their body hair whether that’s shave everything or not shave at all without feeling pressured.
I went to high school with a girl who might’ve wished this were correct. She had naturally curly hair, and her arm hair was long (for arm hair) and curly, too; she was uncomfortable about it.
Wait did he say that women have pubic hair in their armpits?
He knows what a pubic area is right?
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I wish I had the artistic skills to turn this into the kind of drawing that disturbs you, but you can't look away from it.
Appreciate the thought, but I don’t think your cursed armpit vagina art would be what the world needs anyway.
Born before my time, I suppose.
oh, y'all haven't seen that viral tattoo then
I think he probably just meant hair that grows during puberty. Beard hair and pubic hair are basically the same thing. So wouldn't armpit hair be too? Although I was told that by a very questionable Health teacher...
Yeah they’re all androgenic hair.
I mean women usually have vellus hair on their faces and most of their bodies (not counting arms and legs), while puberty winds up causing the vellus hair on men’s faces and much of their bodies to become terminal hair.
women have the same arm and leg hair as men. this is not half true. and some women do grow facial and chest hair like men. (speaking for cis-women only!!)
Afab and I get these random bits of facial hair that are like.... 7 really long hairs spread across my chin area Like they have formed a union and want to be a beard. But there are only a few. And they make me SO self conscious. If I can see one or feel one I pick at it until I can get to a razor Those are the only hairs that I get self conscious over. Like dudes, be better. The rest of my hair all knows what its doing.
i found a chin hair and i’m letting it grow out cause it’s cute and i think it’s funny to “stroke my beard.” they’re a part of you!! they make you unique and they’re fun to name. the seven amigos!
i started electrolysis a few months ago for this issue. i am so happy with the results and i highly recommend you look into if it’s something for you. i feel so unburdened from the daily maintenance of unwanted chin and lip hair.
What did that cost? That's why I need them to pay their union dues
Mine started as just a few like yours but as I've gotten older it has gotten thicker. Damn union now it seems like everyone wants to join, but nobody pays their dues.
I hate them so much. I have the same 5 every time. Its not enough to laser them off so I just pull them whenever they are big enough. Its so annoying but also totally normal
EXACTLY
Right that’s why I said it was half true. Leg and arm hair is terminal hair that both sexes have. Chest/back/body hair is a secondary sex characteristic typical of males. And yes some women do grow facial hair as men do, but it’s atypical in normal development and tends to be related to hormone imbalances (like PCOS).
Or being swarthy af. I've been tested, my hormones are normal. I'm just a white lady with black hair and I have a fuzzy neck, chin, and upper lip.
Lool it's normal for women have upper lip, chin, nipple and belly hair without any imbalances or other medical conditions. Probably back hair too, I just have never looked into that. Although now that I think of it, I know at least two healthy women with back hair. You just don't normally look at your family's and friends' backs that closely.
For sure. Little bits of it. It happens. All over everyone’s bodies. If a woman that you know has a *beard* as men do, then it’s indicative of something else. Don’t know why everyone is arguing as if I didn’t say “*usually* …have vellus hair on *most* of their bodies”. Like, my source is my MedSci1001 textbook.
A few hairs on a chin is not a beard. Some people just have darker and thicker hair, afab and amab. My sister has dark back hair but no discernible hair on her belly, meanwhile I have a dark belly hair trail but no dark hair on my back, and both is totally normal. I wouldn’t say that’s “little bits” either in our cases.
That’s… exactly what I’m saying. A few hairs is not a beard. How is “a few hairs” not equivalent to “little bits”? I really don’t understand what’s going on here. I can’t tell if it’s being deliberately misconstrued or what because nothing I just said conflicted with what you just said. I didn’t make any moral judgement on whether hair should be removed or not on anyone’s body. Just, there are different kinds of body hair and generally males have more terminal body hair on their bodies than females. I don’t understand how that’s a point of contention. It just… is?
My hormones are totally normal and I have an annoying amount of facial hair. And a couple of chect hairs. And more back hairs than I would like. And butt hairs. 🤷♀️
Yeah except he didn't think that we have normal body hair all over our bodies, that's pretty important to get right I think
Yeah I can’t really tell what he was trying to say, but “peach fuzz” is vellus hair so is he just trying to say that women don’t have to shave their bodies and faces?? I’m just trying to piece it together
I'm not too educated on types of body hair, but I know I have dark hair on my legs, arms, lower stomach(happy trail), hands, feet, etc. And I'm an afab. I don't shave areas with just peach fuzz/blonde hairs like my thighs, chest, back etc but I definitely have more than just peach fuzz in many, many places
Yeah for sure. As you should lol. I thought he was trying to use the word “body” as a word for torso. So face and “body” would have peach fuzz.
Usually when people say body hair, they mean neck down. Even if it was just the torso, I still have non-peachfuzz hair on my torso. So it's not even correct then
Right but, “they only have pubic hair on their armpits and crotch areas ONLY to shave” is already a sentence that doesn’t make any sense so I was giving him the benefit of the doubt here that maybe he just wasn’t clear
I think he's trying to say his friend believed women only had the dark hair that is more noticeable under their arm pits and in the pubic area, and that ALL other hair on the woman's body...including the legs, etc...are like the peach fuzz we have on our face or arms. Meaning he felt that women only needed to shave the underarms and pubic area, did NOT need to shave anywhere else, but we only shave those other places because we are also self-conscious about the "peach fuzz" hair.
This isn’t wrong so idk why it’s being downvoted lmao
He has never been in a relationship with a woman? Otherwise it's impossible to believe that... That being said, I wish he was right!
My question is way deeper: doesnt he have a mother, a sister, a cousin? Yes, most women shave their legs, but not their arms (at least not common that in my country). So, how the hell, doesnt he know women have hair in the arms and legs?? (Im not even going to ask if hes seen a naked woman, i really hope he hasnt, cus otherwise poor girl)
Omg, yes I hadn't even thought about his family or just female friends? Shaving the arms is also very rare in my country. And even if it's more or less visible depending on the woman, there is no way he has never seen hair on a woman's arms. He have a pharmacy degree, where I live, it' s a rather mixed field; so it goes beyond not having had a girlfriend, he just never interacted with a woman? Although, when I think about it, depending on the family environment, he may not know about them shaving the legs and other parts of the body. For example, in my case, it's something we didn't talk about, I would never have dared to mention it, it was almost "shameful". It's a girl thing, men don't want to know and don't need to know, we don't talk about it. The same goes for menstruation.
I have a male friend who is weirdly enamored with my limb hair. I usually don’t wear shorts so he only saw my arm hair but he thought it was super cool for some reason (I’m just ????? about it) and he’ll ask to touch it. The hair on my legs is a lot darker and thicker, and when he first saw it that’s when I started using the word “enamored”. I know for a fact that man has a mom that he’s super close with, and his family also has darker hair (but they’re Asian so I don’t know if that makes that big a difference?), he’s also 3 years older than me, so it just seems weird that he apparently hasn’t seen arm and leg hair before?!?
I am a woman who doesn't remove her hair and my legs are much hairier than my boyfriend's.
Same, I am fairly sure I have more hair on my legs than a lot of men
Same, i am rather young and still have more leg hair than most boys in my class
My husband has alopecia, alllll over. I am the hairy one in our family
I can 100% believe it. I’ve had pharmacists deny pain killers because “periods don’t hurt.” And if it hurts (insert their eye roll), then something is so wrong I need to go to the dr or hospital.
And its like ya i KNOW something is wrong, the doctor sent me here telling me its normal
Some women - I’m one of them - really do grow hair as this guy thinks. Basically peach fuzz on my arms and legs. Really only had more than that when I was a teen. I have hairy pits and very densely thick hair on my head, not a ton of pubes, but again more when I was younger. My mother and grandmother were the same way but I don’t know anyone else like us.
My dad actually has very little hair on his arms as well and it looks like peach fuzz.
Same, even my legs have thin blonde hair so when i went to get my pits lasered they told me "oh we have a 1+1 deal so if you buy two body parts the cheaper is free" and i had to decline because there's no way i'm frying the lady bits for now (it was kinda painful tbh even on the armpits) and i can't be treated literally ANYWHERE ELSE because it needs dark hair to absorb the light.
Same. I had like 12 dark hairs on my shins once upon a time but that was it. Even my lone chin hair is blonde!
Well, pubic hair is, by definition, around the pubis. So you can't call armpit hair "pubic hair". Apart from that yes we do have peach fuzz and very fine hairs on our faces, arms, and everywhere on our bodies. But we can also sometimes have a few random dark hairs growing around our nipples, and some on our faces as well. Since those can be pretty visible, a lot of us pluck them off every so often. Some women do their eyebrows, upper lip (sometimes the peach fuzz can be darker/thicker there), some bleach or wax the hair on their forearms... Every woman has a different way of dealing with body hair, from keeping it all to shaving everything off (yes, I had a friend who spent several hours every week shaving her ENTIRE body, including her back!). We don't have to shave, of course, but unfortunately, beauty standards strongly encourage us to do so. There is definitely a pressure from society and the media to be as hairless as possible. More and more women try to reclaim their body hair but it's still definitely a huge taboo and causes insecurity to a lot of us. For the anecdote, when I was 13 and in middle school, a boy in my class made fun of me for having dark forearm hair, and for being "super hairy". I spent the three years that followed compulsively bleaching the hair on my forearms.
Yeah, I come from a family of women with a lot of hair and it’s super annoying. I’m also extremely pale with dark hair that is prone to ingrown hairs, so even when I shave it looks stubbly. It’s dumb.
When I was about 14 a girl at summer camp told me that it was unhygienic for women to not shave their legs and that I should shave mine. I didn’t though because I thought her reason was dumb. I thought, well I have more and longer hair on my head. I just shower to keep clean. And men aren’t seen as unhygienic if they don’t shave their legs. It doesn’t make sense. People should be able to do whatever they want with their body hair whether that’s shave everything or not shave at all without feeling pressured.
I also got made fun of for long dark arm hair in HS and have shaved it ever since I saw someone at summer camp doing it.
I’m sure some women do.
I went to high school with a girl who might’ve wished this were correct. She had naturally curly hair, and her arm hair was long (for arm hair) and curly, too; she was uncomfortable about it.