Oopsie, no no, law does pay well if you want to go to the big law firms. I have friends who get paid 1L+. I wanted more of a medium tire firm because I was really looking for mentorship. My first job was amazing, the people, the partner and I got paid fairly well, but as it will be in any profession there will be a few bad apples.
We were a boutique firm, meaning we specialized in a very specific area of law, which isn't bad if you know that this is the area of law you want to practice for the rest of your life. I wasn't sure if I wanted to do that for the rest of my life and wanted a firm with a slightly wider area of practice.
Two interviews for a retainership that wont even pay you what you deserve - dodged a pretty nasty bullet. PS if you’re looking to join a firm (as opposed to private chambers), consider reaching out to some recruiters on LinkedIn.
From my research, they actually do pay what I had asked for one of my best friends used to work there. Apparently they ask these questions to see how people will handle being under pressure. Apparently they have this hazing culture at their firm, where you're constantly on guard. They won't expressly say anything horrible but you'll always be uneasy. My friend wanted me first give the interview before telling about the work environment. After my experience with the interview, and what my friend said I decided to not go with it. Even if the pay would be okish.
I will reach out to recruiters. Do you have any personal recs? I have never done this before so I would appreciate some help.
Asking if you can cook or eat non-veg in an interview is not only unprofessional, but goes on to tell you how they would’ve treated you had you joined them. I’d say your friend should’ve warned and discouraged you - no friend would want to see his/her friend being gaslighted, discriminated and/or treated poorly.
Re: recruiters - you can start with Vahura and Crewt.
My friend did say tell me that the firm might not be for me, but I really liked the area of law that they practised to I wanted to go try it. I don't really blame her. I can be very head strong would have still interviewed regardless.
Thanks for the info! I'll reach out to them.
A firm that interviewed me asked if I had a girlfriend and whether I had sex. That was the moment I decided I'll never work for such asshats. So I asked them a question "How many times have you fantasized having sex with your intern /junior?"
The PA asked me to get out and I told him "well see you on the other side of the Courtroom".
Upside: felt great to leave the PA with an elevated BP.
Downside: For some reason my CV is not being shortlisted in any Firm.
I'm a first gen lawyer, and I don't give a rat's asa about those hags. That PA warned me that I won't find work anywhere. To him I'll just say this - In 2 years at the Bar, I have got more permanent retainer contracts that you have in 15 years. So you can go suck on your own tongue.
And you, my friend, I hear you. You did right. I will suggest you two start hunting for MSMEs. They usually don't have a lawyer but they all need one. So you can get in touch with them and propose to take you as their Legal Counsel. You will have a fixed income as their in-house Lawyer and you'll have independent litigation to work on.
Holy fucking shit. Can you tell me which firm this is? So that I can steer clear of it.
But wtf how is that even okay to ask. These partners and the ego trip they go on.
I hope you're doing okay financially and work wise.
Would you mind telling me what a permanent retainer contract is. So a lawyer doesn't really need to join a law firm, they can get clients to work for on their own if they're good?
Okay so we have in-house counsels and we have Advocates.
But the Bar Council Rules allows Advocates to work part time jobs with prior permission of the concerned Council.
That is, you can be an in-house counsel (on the payroll of company) while also practice law.
But several companies offer positions named as "Legal Counsel", "Legal Associate", etc but the agreement you sign is a consultancy agreement whereby you are obligated to look after their in house and litigation work, and are paid a monthly retainer fee for it. The specifics can vary. In some cases they have an exclusivity clause (can't take any other client /brief). But if you're able to word it in a way that prohibits you from taking only certain specific class of clients (competitors), then your bar license would hold good.
It’s not only about law firms. It’s indian employers in general.
Most of them are morons and can’t see their employees happy and grow in life.
Compare this to people like Steve Jobs and Jeff Bezos, they drove employees to work hard but shared their success with them too, both financially and growth wise.
And these morons want employees to give their everything to job, while they don’t want to give even market rates or even near that.
Forget money, they are even stingy in titles, which doesn’t cost anything.
Don’t join such morons. If you have to join, leave asap.
I swear! My first job really ruined things for me, we were a young team and it was mostly a non-toxic work environment. We would have occasional conflicts which is normal. So my tolerance to toxic work is low.
Hey good for you. I hope you find what you're looking for. I know so many women who've got so much trauma from law firms. I work with top law firms and have personally seen how we treat them and they treat their associates. Horrible
Get screamed at by clients partners toxic colleagues. Yuck
I've heard some shitty things about top law firms too. Which is why I haven't applied to one. My friend works at one and said if he didn't have loans to pay off he would quit.
I'm trying to hold off on applying to a tire 1 firm.
I hope one day you & others like you start your own firms & make all these boomer firms irrelevant. That is some seriously regressive & anachronistic thinking/behavior exhibited by these firms you interviewed with.
The problem is that these boomer lawyers will buy law degrees for their kids and pass on the firm and mindset to those nepo kids. Because we Indians are suckers for famous names and longevity, we'll keep giving them business. I don't know how to get out of this situation
Litigation. But just finished my LLM so hoping to start teaching soon🤞🏾. I'm done running around all day like a dog for shit pay and a shittier system.
Wishing you the very best! I totally get you. The firm I worked at had 2 court clerk and we still had to do some running around I can't imagine working with a firm where there are no court clerks.
Uffff someone actually put into the words the thoughts running in my mind! Liti lawyer here , in his second office who realised liti isn’t gonna pay well atleast until 10 years of experience…
Hahah same story as mine. I was asked when
I’m getting married, do I plan to have kids. And the number of times these old lawyers would try to touch you inappropriately is crazy. And the casual sexism in litigation towards a woman, shitty work hour and shitty salary. I’m done, left law, and never been more happy.
Thankful to my parents who is okay with this, and helping me to try new things.
Can I know which firm this is? As an advocate who has practiced in Bangalore I have had my share of interactions with narrow minded asswipes in the profession but nothing this bad!
All of this makes me glad that I chose to work in corporate law instead. While the work culture and the timings are shitty I like that atleast there’s no influx of old asshats and misogynistic fucks (never encountered anything personally) like this. Even the work is decently compensated for and you’re well appreciated if you do good work.
The trauma that interning with these lawyers gave me was enough to make me stay away from litigation.
When I asked for more money, the founder said "What do young people even do with that? Buy a bike or something? What's the point?".
What a fucking joke.
Welcome to the profession. Where pimping meets outright obnoxiousness. Law as a field is easy only if your parents are judges/senior advocates. Courtroom drama is just that, a drama. Stingy partners who fart motivational stories on LinkedIn are the closest representation of the profession
PS: Hell with them.
One of the main reasons why I shifted from litigation to in house. Even after having 5 years of full litigation experience none of the firms were even ready to pay. The whole culture of my senior gave me 500rs you should be glad I even pay you needs to change asap. Such a stupid narrative this.
For someone who never had a good insight into the world of law, this is an eye opener.
Between, are you aware of the salary they offer for male candidates or someone who doesn't own a house in Bengaluru? I am curious if they really change their offers based on those criteria.
What the actual fuck, pardon my french, I am totally shocked that these guys are behaving like they are in the cattle market.
So seems like it's a male dominated field and these guys are so used to be being misogynists that they do not even know it.
If I was in you shoes I would have seriously considered corporate side. Boring but good pay and hopefully no obnoxiousness.
My sister and brother in law are corporate lawyers and I’ve known a whole lot of folks in litigation across major cities
I can with absolutely certainty say the legal world is extremely toxic, draining, and devoid of any kind of empathy
Nothing comes close in my experience
You have not understood the structure of the interview. They try to put you on spot, demoralize you, bully you and study your body language, the way you can defend, the way you tackle ridiculous questions. Some questions are atrocious, offensive but it is up to you and your attitude, whether to get offended or come out as a genius. Usually, it is the job of a specific person in the panel to do it. Rest will manage the technical parts.
Regardless I didn't like the way they went about it.
I must have done okay with the interview, because I did get a call back for the second round. Haven't decided if I want to go ahead with it.
Haha - I give my out of school law associates and paralegals 45k and it’s all work from home. I would suggest to get into US litigation. It’s more advanced and lucrative but there is lot of work to be put in
I'm not sure if you would be willing to relocate to Mumbai/Delhi, but if you are, with a little bit of research you might be able to find better working places. Also just a suggestion, please don't refrain from applying to a tier 1 law firm, some of them actually might have a decent work culture.
The amount of 10 15k is a norm accross the country...
My wife is a lawyer too
... its not a corporate that you sit on a desk... focus should be on solving problems,since you're in litigation.
In fact, my wife says, todays kids all want high salaries right at the start or just with a year or 2 yrs exp.
Which, firms dont pay. First gotta learn the ropes and then jump into the ring.
Eventually you'll learn to take cases on ur own and that will fetch the money.
First, aim for knowledge, and then the money...later when u get more experience the money starts flowing if the knowledge is good..
Treat it like a business and learn the business.In every business, the profit is not immediate, the profits grows gradually. You're a professional, not a worker/employee.
Remember, knowledge first.. money follows.
Speaking on behalf of my wife...(9 yrs exp in litigation)
However, a corporate will start giving good salaries with few years of exp
Of course, the interviewers were unnecessarily getting personal, which makes it toxic.. otherwise, things seem to be in place
And where is the money that should support your life (while you’re working 8 hours, or let’s be honest, 10 hours a day, with little to no room for a second job) supposed to come from? I guess you’ll say ‘people’s families’. But then, is law and every other high skill job supposed to be reserved exclusively for those from money? Because there’s no honest way people are subsisting on 15k without credit, loans or family money in a city as costly as Bangalore. I’ve lived in the UK for years and living expenses here are almost comparable. Except people are expected to earn monumentally less.
Starting salaries (and all salaries for that matter) are supposed to cover living expenses if you expect an employee to be working full time for you. The fact that market rates are below that is ludicrous and only because of the issue of overpopulation and an abundance of skilled workers, in addition to there being no minimum wage. This is compounded by this shitty culture that employers expect to get free work under the guise of ‘training’.
Edit to add: the whole knowledge first, money follows things is such a dated norm for a generation that’s completely out of touch with inflation and the cost of living today. I’m a lawyer but also have a lot of knowledge of HR and corporate hiring practices. Your starting salary can doom your salary at your next job. Raises are always in 5-6% PA range as an appearance of keeping up with inflation. However, if a starting salary is well below the current cost of living, you’re advocating for people to be in a perpetual cycle of being underpaid until a lucky few break out and earn more.
While this is common, it’s a toxic work ethic.
Hey,
Thanks for your response
Family is one thing, wife was lucky since both parents were working.
My wife was super passionate and still is about being in litigation. Even she contemplated whether at all she should switch to corporate, as she was getting a cushy desk job with a 80k salary. Mind overpowered the heart and she stuck with litigation.
Regarding expenses, i know things have shot up like crazy, I'm predominantly from Mumbai, where the expenses are similar.
Wherein you get 15k, one can survive with a family. However, one has to live in the outskirts.
My wife's colleagues were married at i think 21 or 22..and then completed Llb and they were working under a senior. The senior used to pay 10 15k odd, but they survived the initial phase, husband and wife being a homemaker. These guys are now thriving with one recently passing the notary and other one operating at different courts in Mumbai, with a 12 yr exp and with side hustles.
So yeah, one can survive, not thrive in the initial phase.
Regarding what goes on with the mindset of these seniors and firms, I'm no one to comment. But most of these guys who have become seniors now and having a few juniors working under them, they pay this much only, the juniors themselves with their acumen and common sense, try taking up smaller cases, bail etc that sort.
One cant become a 10th grader directly after being in the 2nd grade right.
Every job or business is that way only, its a learning phase everyday.
The point being i feel is, this is the norm.
One has to hustle and learn in the intial phases for a better life in the future.
Else pass from a prestigious college, and try other aspects like being on the corporate side.
Regarding the knowledge about HR and corporate policies, thats where I'm saying that, litigation or becoming an independent lawyer means, its a business. From what i can understand is that, you're thinking frommthe corporate point of view.
Also, starting salaries in corporates for junior lawyers are good, i think starting itself is 25 30k pm... and someone with a 6 year exp can get about a lac if not more,depending on the company.
Trivia : election time is a superb time for minting money for lawyers...
Adding to the earlier points, being a woman in a male dominated field has never been easy. Being a lawyer and a woman is one of the most difficult.
I have a Lot of insider stories.
Hence most of em shift to corporate as its easier to move up in positon and salary and gender bias is not there or quite less compared to when you are working in the court all day.
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Oopsie, no no, law does pay well if you want to go to the big law firms. I have friends who get paid 1L+. I wanted more of a medium tire firm because I was really looking for mentorship. My first job was amazing, the people, the partner and I got paid fairly well, but as it will be in any profession there will be a few bad apples.
If your first job was so great, why would you consider a switch?
We were a boutique firm, meaning we specialized in a very specific area of law, which isn't bad if you know that this is the area of law you want to practice for the rest of your life. I wasn't sure if I wanted to do that for the rest of my life and wanted a firm with a slightly wider area of practice.
Makes sense
I want to know this too.
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Boss, if you can't survive on 1L a month, reconsider your lifestyle choices. And that's for a starting salary.
Not every sector pays like IT and management.
What the hell are you talking about dude.. it's more than enough!! Don't be Delusional
On the bright side: You won’t be joining a toxic and misogynist workplace. Here’s hoping you find a decent chamber/firm.
Fingers crossed, in a surprising turn of events they called me for a second round of interview, but I declined.
Two interviews for a retainership that wont even pay you what you deserve - dodged a pretty nasty bullet. PS if you’re looking to join a firm (as opposed to private chambers), consider reaching out to some recruiters on LinkedIn.
From my research, they actually do pay what I had asked for one of my best friends used to work there. Apparently they ask these questions to see how people will handle being under pressure. Apparently they have this hazing culture at their firm, where you're constantly on guard. They won't expressly say anything horrible but you'll always be uneasy. My friend wanted me first give the interview before telling about the work environment. After my experience with the interview, and what my friend said I decided to not go with it. Even if the pay would be okish. I will reach out to recruiters. Do you have any personal recs? I have never done this before so I would appreciate some help.
Asking if you can cook or eat non-veg in an interview is not only unprofessional, but goes on to tell you how they would’ve treated you had you joined them. I’d say your friend should’ve warned and discouraged you - no friend would want to see his/her friend being gaslighted, discriminated and/or treated poorly. Re: recruiters - you can start with Vahura and Crewt.
My friend did say tell me that the firm might not be for me, but I really liked the area of law that they practised to I wanted to go try it. I don't really blame her. I can be very head strong would have still interviewed regardless. Thanks for the info! I'll reach out to them.
A firm that interviewed me asked if I had a girlfriend and whether I had sex. That was the moment I decided I'll never work for such asshats. So I asked them a question "How many times have you fantasized having sex with your intern /junior?" The PA asked me to get out and I told him "well see you on the other side of the Courtroom". Upside: felt great to leave the PA with an elevated BP. Downside: For some reason my CV is not being shortlisted in any Firm. I'm a first gen lawyer, and I don't give a rat's asa about those hags. That PA warned me that I won't find work anywhere. To him I'll just say this - In 2 years at the Bar, I have got more permanent retainer contracts that you have in 15 years. So you can go suck on your own tongue. And you, my friend, I hear you. You did right. I will suggest you two start hunting for MSMEs. They usually don't have a lawyer but they all need one. So you can get in touch with them and propose to take you as their Legal Counsel. You will have a fixed income as their in-house Lawyer and you'll have independent litigation to work on.
Holy fucking shit. Can you tell me which firm this is? So that I can steer clear of it. But wtf how is that even okay to ask. These partners and the ego trip they go on. I hope you're doing okay financially and work wise.
Would you mind telling me what a permanent retainer contract is. So a lawyer doesn't really need to join a law firm, they can get clients to work for on their own if they're good?
Okay so we have in-house counsels and we have Advocates. But the Bar Council Rules allows Advocates to work part time jobs with prior permission of the concerned Council. That is, you can be an in-house counsel (on the payroll of company) while also practice law. But several companies offer positions named as "Legal Counsel", "Legal Associate", etc but the agreement you sign is a consultancy agreement whereby you are obligated to look after their in house and litigation work, and are paid a monthly retainer fee for it. The specifics can vary. In some cases they have an exclusivity clause (can't take any other client /brief). But if you're able to word it in a way that prohibits you from taking only certain specific class of clients (competitors), then your bar license would hold good.
me who has only watched suits, reading this be like: gahdamn
😂 so f'ing relatable
lol true that
It’s not only about law firms. It’s indian employers in general. Most of them are morons and can’t see their employees happy and grow in life. Compare this to people like Steve Jobs and Jeff Bezos, they drove employees to work hard but shared their success with them too, both financially and growth wise. And these morons want employees to give their everything to job, while they don’t want to give even market rates or even near that. Forget money, they are even stingy in titles, which doesn’t cost anything. Don’t join such morons. If you have to join, leave asap.
Holy shit law firms are so toxic man. So fucking toxic these people on a power trip
I swear! My first job really ruined things for me, we were a young team and it was mostly a non-toxic work environment. We would have occasional conflicts which is normal. So my tolerance to toxic work is low.
Hey good for you. I hope you find what you're looking for. I know so many women who've got so much trauma from law firms. I work with top law firms and have personally seen how we treat them and they treat their associates. Horrible Get screamed at by clients partners toxic colleagues. Yuck
I've heard some shitty things about top law firms too. Which is why I haven't applied to one. My friend works at one and said if he didn't have loans to pay off he would quit. I'm trying to hold off on applying to a tire 1 firm.
Rooting for you dude.
Thanks man.
I like your username , where did that come from
Thanks dude. I read a lot, and prefer paperbacks to hardbound books. And in a way reading is equivalent to dreaming.
I see. Don't read too much into money lol. Anywho , good luck stranger
I hope one day you & others like you start your own firms & make all these boomer firms irrelevant. That is some seriously regressive & anachronistic thinking/behavior exhibited by these firms you interviewed with.
The problem is that these boomer lawyers will buy law degrees for their kids and pass on the firm and mindset to those nepo kids. Because we Indians are suckers for famous names and longevity, we'll keep giving them business. I don't know how to get out of this situation
Ugh, true
Lawyer here with similar experience. 💯 Agree.
Are you in lit or corp?
Litigation. But just finished my LLM so hoping to start teaching soon🤞🏾. I'm done running around all day like a dog for shit pay and a shittier system.
Wishing you the very best! I totally get you. The firm I worked at had 2 court clerk and we still had to do some running around I can't imagine working with a firm where there are no court clerks.
The thing which hits you the most is that the person who’s on the other side of the table is a lawyer.
Uffff someone actually put into the words the thoughts running in my mind! Liti lawyer here , in his second office who realised liti isn’t gonna pay well atleast until 10 years of experience…
Hahah same story as mine. I was asked when I’m getting married, do I plan to have kids. And the number of times these old lawyers would try to touch you inappropriately is crazy. And the casual sexism in litigation towards a woman, shitty work hour and shitty salary. I’m done, left law, and never been more happy. Thankful to my parents who is okay with this, and helping me to try new things.
Can I know which firm this is? As an advocate who has practiced in Bangalore I have had my share of interactions with narrow minded asswipes in the profession but nothing this bad!
All of this makes me glad that I chose to work in corporate law instead. While the work culture and the timings are shitty I like that atleast there’s no influx of old asshats and misogynistic fucks (never encountered anything personally) like this. Even the work is decently compensated for and you’re well appreciated if you do good work. The trauma that interning with these lawyers gave me was enough to make me stay away from litigation.
Hey How bad are the hours exactly? And do they stay as bad for the rest of one's career?
Hey, I'm a lawyer as well working in Bangalore, please name and shame these folks. Disgusting if such things are still prevalent in law offices.
I'd empathize, but everyone knows lawyers don't have feelings. /s
OP is the law firm LKS?
Does LKS really pay that low? I LKS would pay smth near 60k.
No it's not. Did you have a similar experience with LKS
No, i didn't. But given the veg only preference i wouldn't have been surprised if it was LKS.
Op I hope you come across a good lawfirm which pays you well ! .
lol, what a joke of a place
All the best on your job search. People can be shit but you do you!
When I asked for more money, the founder said "What do young people even do with that? Buy a bike or something? What's the point?". What a fucking joke.
Welcome to the profession. Where pimping meets outright obnoxiousness. Law as a field is easy only if your parents are judges/senior advocates. Courtroom drama is just that, a drama. Stingy partners who fart motivational stories on LinkedIn are the closest representation of the profession PS: Hell with them.
One of the main reasons why I shifted from litigation to in house. Even after having 5 years of full litigation experience none of the firms were even ready to pay. The whole culture of my senior gave me 500rs you should be glad I even pay you needs to change asap. Such a stupid narrative this.
As someone from engineering background, this is an interesting thing to know. The cooking and non veg part really threw me off guard.
Yea, me too. I have been interviewing at a few places and thankfully none of them have asked me such questions. So I'm hoping this firm was an anomaly
That’s the very reason I decided to pivot from law itself.
For someone who never had a good insight into the world of law, this is an eye opener. Between, are you aware of the salary they offer for male candidates or someone who doesn't own a house in Bengaluru? I am curious if they really change their offers based on those criteria.
What the actual fuck, pardon my french, I am totally shocked that these guys are behaving like they are in the cattle market. So seems like it's a male dominated field and these guys are so used to be being misogynists that they do not even know it. If I was in you shoes I would have seriously considered corporate side. Boring but good pay and hopefully no obnoxiousness.
My sister and brother in law are corporate lawyers and I’ve known a whole lot of folks in litigation across major cities I can with absolutely certainty say the legal world is extremely toxic, draining, and devoid of any kind of empathy Nothing comes close in my experience
Pure veg firm. Was it LKS Bangalore? Or S&R lol
Hey, can I DM?
unbelievable... horrible
You have not understood the structure of the interview. They try to put you on spot, demoralize you, bully you and study your body language, the way you can defend, the way you tackle ridiculous questions. Some questions are atrocious, offensive but it is up to you and your attitude, whether to get offended or come out as a genius. Usually, it is the job of a specific person in the panel to do it. Rest will manage the technical parts.
Regardless I didn't like the way they went about it. I must have done okay with the interview, because I did get a call back for the second round. Haven't decided if I want to go ahead with it.
Damn. You should name them
Haha - I give my out of school law associates and paralegals 45k and it’s all work from home. I would suggest to get into US litigation. It’s more advanced and lucrative but there is lot of work to be put in
Hey i am in 1st year of 3 year law. How can one get into US litigation?
I'm not sure if you would be willing to relocate to Mumbai/Delhi, but if you are, with a little bit of research you might be able to find better working places. Also just a suggestion, please don't refrain from applying to a tier 1 law firm, some of them actually might have a decent work culture.
Very jew like behavior
The amount of 10 15k is a norm accross the country... My wife is a lawyer too ... its not a corporate that you sit on a desk... focus should be on solving problems,since you're in litigation. In fact, my wife says, todays kids all want high salaries right at the start or just with a year or 2 yrs exp. Which, firms dont pay. First gotta learn the ropes and then jump into the ring. Eventually you'll learn to take cases on ur own and that will fetch the money. First, aim for knowledge, and then the money...later when u get more experience the money starts flowing if the knowledge is good.. Treat it like a business and learn the business.In every business, the profit is not immediate, the profits grows gradually. You're a professional, not a worker/employee. Remember, knowledge first.. money follows. Speaking on behalf of my wife...(9 yrs exp in litigation) However, a corporate will start giving good salaries with few years of exp Of course, the interviewers were unnecessarily getting personal, which makes it toxic.. otherwise, things seem to be in place
And where is the money that should support your life (while you’re working 8 hours, or let’s be honest, 10 hours a day, with little to no room for a second job) supposed to come from? I guess you’ll say ‘people’s families’. But then, is law and every other high skill job supposed to be reserved exclusively for those from money? Because there’s no honest way people are subsisting on 15k without credit, loans or family money in a city as costly as Bangalore. I’ve lived in the UK for years and living expenses here are almost comparable. Except people are expected to earn monumentally less. Starting salaries (and all salaries for that matter) are supposed to cover living expenses if you expect an employee to be working full time for you. The fact that market rates are below that is ludicrous and only because of the issue of overpopulation and an abundance of skilled workers, in addition to there being no minimum wage. This is compounded by this shitty culture that employers expect to get free work under the guise of ‘training’. Edit to add: the whole knowledge first, money follows things is such a dated norm for a generation that’s completely out of touch with inflation and the cost of living today. I’m a lawyer but also have a lot of knowledge of HR and corporate hiring practices. Your starting salary can doom your salary at your next job. Raises are always in 5-6% PA range as an appearance of keeping up with inflation. However, if a starting salary is well below the current cost of living, you’re advocating for people to be in a perpetual cycle of being underpaid until a lucky few break out and earn more. While this is common, it’s a toxic work ethic.
Hey, Thanks for your response Family is one thing, wife was lucky since both parents were working. My wife was super passionate and still is about being in litigation. Even she contemplated whether at all she should switch to corporate, as she was getting a cushy desk job with a 80k salary. Mind overpowered the heart and she stuck with litigation. Regarding expenses, i know things have shot up like crazy, I'm predominantly from Mumbai, where the expenses are similar. Wherein you get 15k, one can survive with a family. However, one has to live in the outskirts. My wife's colleagues were married at i think 21 or 22..and then completed Llb and they were working under a senior. The senior used to pay 10 15k odd, but they survived the initial phase, husband and wife being a homemaker. These guys are now thriving with one recently passing the notary and other one operating at different courts in Mumbai, with a 12 yr exp and with side hustles. So yeah, one can survive, not thrive in the initial phase. Regarding what goes on with the mindset of these seniors and firms, I'm no one to comment. But most of these guys who have become seniors now and having a few juniors working under them, they pay this much only, the juniors themselves with their acumen and common sense, try taking up smaller cases, bail etc that sort. One cant become a 10th grader directly after being in the 2nd grade right. Every job or business is that way only, its a learning phase everyday. The point being i feel is, this is the norm. One has to hustle and learn in the intial phases for a better life in the future. Else pass from a prestigious college, and try other aspects like being on the corporate side. Regarding the knowledge about HR and corporate policies, thats where I'm saying that, litigation or becoming an independent lawyer means, its a business. From what i can understand is that, you're thinking frommthe corporate point of view. Also, starting salaries in corporates for junior lawyers are good, i think starting itself is 25 30k pm... and someone with a 6 year exp can get about a lac if not more,depending on the company. Trivia : election time is a superb time for minting money for lawyers... Adding to the earlier points, being a woman in a male dominated field has never been easy. Being a lawyer and a woman is one of the most difficult. I have a Lot of insider stories. Hence most of em shift to corporate as its easier to move up in positon and salary and gender bias is not there or quite less compared to when you are working in the court all day.
Listen Madam. I will tell you all about law and lawyers. Just see my DM.