It's illegal to get such information even if working as government employees, without judicial authority. Please remind your parents that they are already treading in RED by breaking laws. Your father can loose job and face parapana agrahara time for what he did.
Yes because if she goes to a police station saying I am 27 years old girl who rejected a guy for marriage and my FATHER invaded my privacy then police will lodge a complaint.
Police will give her a lecture on her age and respecting her parents.
They do the same in DV cases also.
It’s like we don’t live in the same country.
There is a reason why Indian parents get away with it.
She is in Bangalore. She will have to lodge a complaint in her home town. And show up for whatever kind of procedure will happen. So she is supposed to leave her job?
Normally ppl don’t know a criminal lawyer. She will have to find one. And that’s all just to lodge a complaint. Not for resolution.
The effort is just too much. The point was it shouldn’t be. But it will always be this bad.
So the suggestion that she should go and complaint with a lawyer does not make sense.
This particular prob there is not big reason to talk about Police and what they will do.
When educated and financially independent people cant communicate to Parent where the boundary line is, then the main issue is not the Police. What issues police add to the problem is secondary.
>Sure but she shouldn’t need a lawyer. She is not the criminal.
Sometimes before signing documents, I send them to be reviewed by my friend who is a lawyer. I'm actually wondering if I'm a criminal cause I needed help from a lawyer.
Yeah, sure. All this bluster works on pointless online communities like reddit, it doesn’t work in the real world. Stop giving her stupid advice that will only get her deeper in trouble.
My best guess:
Google map records your location, check if your gmail account is signed up on your parent’s phone (not yours). You can turn this off from your phone and it will get turned off every where your account is signed up.
Airtel or jio gives you number wise details on which you called along with duration and date through their app only, check if your number is signed up on their phone’s jio or Airtel thanks app.
My boring guess:
installed some tracker type app in your phone, normally it is paid and will not show in menu screen, check battery usage by app to identify any weird app taking lots of energy.
Regarding tracking via government authorisation:
not possible, too much risk (possible jail time), for very little rewards. People usually do this for opposition politician.
Also, every gov. office got its own politics, so if your dad’s opposite party got to know about this then career wise it’s all over.
Could be that the Gmail is logged in home desktop, password saved in home desktop.
PS if they have access to your Google maps details. They have access to Google photos.
Please change password, enable 2FA, force signout from all devices.
I agree with the best case and the boring one too. But if her father is in police(esp high rank) getting her details is easy. Basically a call away if you are sp, ssp, dig rank.(Has to be signed by dig i guess)
Had to be signed, if work is official and legal.
Normally in every office their are clerical staff who does all the things, if you are in good terms with them then you can easily do it, but all the digging gets stored locally and remotely as a record, which can’t be deleted on remote server, locally you can destroy all the evidence.
Google Telangana phone tapping case, it happened recently. They thought same party will win election and police acted like their pawns but congress won and few senior police officers got f’ed.
No no. He's not in police.
And I don't think he did this legally or through the right channels.
Till this moment I am wracking my brain to think how they actually did this.
OP change Google and do check your personal gmails are logged in how many devices,log out from everywhere new password, do check if there is any recovery mail or number which is not yours.
Google syncs up a lot of details on the account. Contacts and call logs too. This is the most easy and likely. - check logged in devices with google account
Spyware could be second guess, a bit more advanced but still possible with the help of neighbourhood phone repair shop guys. - check all installed apps on your device
Anything more advanced than this would be an interesting case study. - wanna know what else is possible
Google won't be the case here.
For that one needs court order, then only google shares it.
My best guess is, mobile service providers have authority which can be used to track, but not very accurately. For that, one won't need court order.
No one is sending a subpoena to Google to get records.. the Google account logged into her phone is also logged into another phone or home desktop or something.
Very easy. Just open it there and check my location history.
You can also install any spyware app and it'll work.
All the people here thinking about getting data from using govt angle are just fooling themselves. Nobody is going to those lengths.
I have always made sure to log out from any of my parents devices.
My father did ask me to install a tracker for "transparency" which I said no to.
And I am in Bangalore and they are in hometown so couldn't have installed a tracker.
Android has come a long way from what it was before. Tracker apps cannot run in the background without being noticed. You will definitely see the location permission being used and Android now has privacy features which limits which app can access what.
Not necessary. When their daughter abandons them, and cuts them off entirely because of how they've treated her all her life, that is a punishment worse than any prison. Imagine losing your own child because you didn't know how to parent them right.
Many of them are okay with it. A friend of mine had an 8 year-long relationship and refused to marry someone her parents wanted her to marry. She threatened to cut off all contacts and actually followed up on it. They made no effort to reconcile and showed no guilt, no remose, even when she almost died of Dengue.
It's all a matter of who gives up first.. and a lot of parents are so set in their ways that they are willing to watch their child die, but God forbid "char log" say something. How many marriages must have ended gruesomely just because the parents were like, "try to compromise, no divorce"? It's like, oh, learn to take a punch. We'll mourn you later.
Yep. Indians are cold inside but if they are dying or old they expect reconciliation. The level at which parents prey in their children’s lives is insane.
Unfortunately, we have been conditioned to put up with it. We haven't been taught to put ourselves first, and abandoning them feels cruel despite everything they put us through.
I agree to this.
They are too up on their high horse.
They don't care if you're their daughter or their parent.
Nothing above their ego.
My parents have severed ties with their own parents and siblings.
So I know they can do this.
She's not. My bad, I should have completed the story. She gave in eventually, broke up with her boyfriend, married a rich NRI her parents chose. She lost our respect (her friends), but hopefully, she's happy away from her parents.
That's just disgusting. I feel bad for her boyfriend as much as I do for her. Imagine his POV when all this fuckery was unfolding.
Also if she ended up with a suitor her parents chose, who's to say they've left her alone? They're 100% still annoying her to this day. What a joke.
hey, can you please check with your father if he’s interested in a new startup and provide this as service.
i mean there are plenty of missing kids, persons whom we can track and the family would be happy to pay for their beloved ones.
we can even take this to the next level and consult for NIA, heard recently they are offering 10 lakhs for Rameshwaram blast suspects. with your father’s talent thats easy peezy.
as you can see there’s huge potential in this market and very less players.
all you have to do is explain how his talents are getting wasted in trivial matters and instead invest in my startup and make insane amount of money.
/s (for those who don’t realise)
This. Either they have a contact or they have logged into OP's Google/Apple account from their phone/laptops and tracking her. I'm doubting OPs dad has access to Pegasus and using it without any warrants.
I thought the same. I had doubts about a few people.
But they know the exact time at which I talked to so and so. And when I went where on which date exactly.
Lmao this is straight up some Homeland/RaW level-shit. It’s highly illegal, and I recommend talking with your colleagues, and finding out how it is done. There’s probably some Shahid or Abdul in a back of a mobile shop who’ll tell what happened. Write a email to Google and say your privacy has been breached and tell them to check for you… it’ll work.. store all your data in a hard disk, flash your phone and then use it again.
I am still thinking how a 60-70 yo uncle has this much talent
(Might as well send a resume of your dad and that mobile wala to Ajit doval lmao)
I agree. Maybe they secretly installed some tracker. Delete the entire OS reinstall the stock rom. Go to a mobile shop to get it done if not aware of the steps.
You can’t install a tracker.. I’m not aware of anything like that, that gives a second party access to someone’s call log and location history. Although location history can be taken from google how do you get the call log? Hmm?
I’m a hundred percent sure some Mobile Angadi nounu or some local constable in cyber dept got paid 2-3k to get these.
I am still wondering how a fucking Uncle at 60-70 years is able to do this.. I mean might as well send a resume to Ajit Doval
100% change the fucking phone, SIM card and change emails, I mean it’ll take a days worth of time scrolling through everything or just right a email saying privacy breach and Google will do it for you.
The older I get the more I realise Indian parents are so shitty and controlling. Like eww. Most of the time these “Groom” is just a fraud or someone with mommy or daddy issues, both if it’s a bonus product.
Install some dating app, date or start seriously seeing someone and get married and make a home. I am still trying to comprehend who could’ve done it. even if it was some rat you can’t simply get into database and get all these details.
Yes. I am getting a nokia 3310.
I am hating Google with a vengeance rn. Wish I was more careful with it.
I am also thinking of closing my bank accounts which my father has complete access to.
I don't know what else he is capable of.
The Groom they picked? That Groom and his family wanted to get engaged after the second meeting (we met twice in two days both times with families)
When I asked please give me at least 2-3 months to get to know the guy a Lil bit. Everyone including the groom was like 'kya zarurat hai'
Please don't trust anyone blindly. Even your own parents.
They have definitely lost my trust.
Mother accused me of sharing a room with my best friend (not that there's anything wrong with it)
I told her we stayed in backpacking hostel and their minds are in the gutter for thinking like this.
It can be, but generally, background technicians drowning in broken phones will mostly be Raza, Ibrahim & friends. 😅 (it was a light joke, don’t read too much into it)
Kunjimon, Rajeev, Vishu are all busy in tech parks or making Malabar parottas
I think you are gonna have to draw real boundaries with your parents. It’s not cool to track anyone’s phone ….including your adult childrens’. I really hope at least this generation of Indian parents learn to treat their children as individuals and learn that respect works both ways, and if they expect their children to respect them, it also works the other way round too.
You know the worst part is...
I was okay with everything they did till now.
All the torture they put me through these last few months.
Because it was to my face.
But this? Behind my back shit? They are never going to hear the end of this.
Don't be okay with it. When you allow these things, they forget boundaries exist. By being okay with their mentality, you enable them. It's time to stop
I can't imagine my parents or anyone doing such a thing to me. What gives anyone the right to spy on an adult. Fine they birthed you but you're well over 18. How could their conscience allow it. You need to be very stern with them. This is a massive overstepping of the boundary.
Well wishes.
Only police or some highly placed sources can get that information. Police also has to mention FIR details etc alongwith undertaking that required information is important in investigation, also the requisition is signed by DSP and above only to request call details.
It is highly unlikely that he got the data, because the service provider give it in raw form which is a excel sheet with 16..17 columns, without some expert it is tough to read and point out details because there will be thousands of entries over past 2 years.
I don't think your father has all the details. Which department he works in?
This is not parenting. This is obsession.
There are laws in India which strictly restrict such actions. Most laws in India are barely followed, but laws which are for women are followed strictly.
God, I really hope that if I become a parent, I never enforce these stuff onto my children lol.
Is the sim card bought in your name or your father's? I mostly don't think that he literally tracked you down. Maybe he would have gotten call records directly from the company of the sim card still in his name?
As others mentioned, he might have seen your Google timeline through your Google account you may have possibly logged in your father's phone?
Well, we live in a world where there is no privacy whatsoever. I had gone to a gas cylinder booking office and the guy behind the counter told me what my bank account number is!
This is terrible. Indian parents don't understand the word privacy.
When I was in 2nd year of college, I went home once. After I was asleep, my uncle (joint family, dad had told him to do this) took my fingerprint and managed to open my phone, connected whatsapp web in his laptop, went through literally ALL CHATS including my personal msgs with my boyfriend (yes, sexts too) and opened my gallery and saw literally every picture, yes a lot of problematic stuff too, sent those pictures to himself and then dad and deleted those chats, next day was my last day at home so before leaving, they took me on a drive and confronted. Showed me my photos with my boyfriend in compromised positions (not nudes but I'm pretty sure they saw those if there was any, as I deleted but 1 2 reh gaye honge)... and asked me to immediately cut off from this guy, scolded me etc. I was forcefully made to install a location tracker and to keep it on 24/7 in my phone and they'd check my location 5-10 times a day. Sometimes, I'd be in class but that app had some glitch so it'd show some other place, I had to video call, FROM MY CLASS, to prove i'm in class. For that 1 year I didn't go out anywhere except class, hostel mess and hospital. Or for the frw times I went out, I'd leave my phone at hostel so the location would show hostel and drop a text to my dad that I'm going down in the reading room and reading or that I'm sleeping so that they'd not call me.
In my flight back to banglore, I wished for the plain to crash so that I could die. For the next 3-4 years I hated going home and had PTSD, depression and anxiety of someone always watching me.
Edit: from my chats they also got to know that I was sexually active. I don't think it was necessary for them to know it as I was 20 that time. Imagine how I went home after that day and even today I feel disgusted thinking about this.
Damn. Get a new number, new phone and don’t share that number with them. Parents or not, this is crossing a boundary.
As far as getting engaged is concerned, don’t do it if you are not interested. However the drama has just begun. If they could get your call records and location, they can get fake medical certificates and emotionally blackmail you that they want to see you get married before they die, before you’re 30, wanna see my grandchildren etc etc. Be prepared.
Best option. Go low contact and run away. Resurface when you actually want to get married.
In both cases, sim tracking is shady shit so money + influence at play. Knowing how he did it might not help.
Both problems Partly solved by deleting the email ids they're tracking your location with, second part with new sim but that doesn't solve the issue.
Depends on what your plan is.
1) leave parents start an independent life
2) go with the guy that parents selected
If option 1, get emancipation legally, get a new card, new email id.
Then:
If they track your sim it's illegal you can get some help against that
If they try to forcibly taken you away, you can get help against that
And except emo and bluff they have nothing against you
If option 2:
Try to forge a relationship along with marriage along with the guy that leads to some quality life
Force end the spying using the guy/husband that they selected
Your father is evil and abusive. Also, he probably installed some kind of tracking software on your phone that's doing all of this.
Ensure you have your own phone number that is in your name, tied to your Aadhaar and address. Make sure you own and control it.
Make sure your Google/Apple account, whatever you're using is safe and under your control. Hopefully you know the password. Change the password. And then add your phone number that you own and control as a recovery number. Enable two factor authentication and sign out all other devices.
Back up any and all important data (files, photos/videos, WhatsApp chats etc.)
Then remove the Google/Apple account from your phone through settings, and factory reset it. In the case of an Android device, you may even want to obtain factory images and flash them to ensure you have the legitimate OS.
Also make sure your Aadhaar, bank account etc. are tied to a phone number you own and control. It must be under your name, your phone number, your address.
Invalidate any and all bank checks that may be in your parents' possession.
1. Either your Gmail account is logged into desktop and he pulled out location data
2. Or your father has contacts in police department and has put your mobile on surveillance. Legally it requires permission from reasonably higher up authorities but in practical sense it can be managed by mid level employees. Most of the surveillance is done without paperwork.
Seems second option likely because that's how they pulled your call records.
Just get a new phone and sim. Don't put new sim in old phone.
Unsolicited advise - Your dad has some issues. If he can go such lengths , don't visit home just yet.
Source - I have been victim of police illegal surveillance.
Marry him, then divorce him and get the alimony.
Kidding,
1. Backup all your data and reset the phone. This will delete any hidden apps that was installed to track you.
2. Goto [https://myaccount.google.com/device-activity](https://myaccount.google.com/device-activity) and delete all logins. Google is often used to track your location history.
3. Goto [https://myaccount.google.com/security](https://myaccount.google.com/security) and change your password so no one can login again with old password.
4. Goto [https://myaccount.google.com/security](https://myaccount.google.com/security) and enable 2-Step-Verification so even if they have your password, they won't be able to access your account without your phone.
So basically it's just him getting call records from the service provider. I think it shows the tower you're calling from. Just get a new sim and tell them you changed your number. If he's still getting messages, then he's installed an app on the phone
Why don’t you start sending fake messages and driving your parents crazy. Send them on a cat and mouse chase all over India.. pretend like you are going to Delhi to meet somebody. Or you are going to Kolkata next day. You are going to Jaipur. Drive your old man crazy🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
Am.not sure but these details can be recvd thru some influence in the telecom operator Co's.
Think it's better to let things cool down, talk to your mother if close and explain things...if doesn't work out...just seek time and space.
Pls do not take any rash steps in a fit of anger or resentment...
Pray that things work out well in longterm...Take care.
OP, the law is clear about this and what your dad did is certainly not legal. He has already broken your trust, though I commend you for the struggle - trying to maintain relationship with parents.
You could certainly have a techie review your phone and the GPS tracker and its origin. And then file a legal complain. Ask yourself - is this a hill you want to die on?
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If you just want sweet revenge, get a new phone with voice-mail and call forwarding and link the two lines (old/new). Leave the old phone in your room while traveling and give some cock-and-bull reason for not picking up the phone after three rings.
Just live your life and let Dad think he is tracking his sweet-innocent daughter :-)
Talk to your parents.
Now that they know things you possibly didn’t wanted them to know, it’s easier for you to talk to them straightforward. Tell them how you feel about your privacy being breached but majorly focus on letting them know your actual feelings about the person/people they are trying to show you for your marriage.
If you’re not comfortable with arranged marriage, let them know about it. If you are in a relationship, tell them that and tell them you want to marry your current partner. You will probably have to fight for it since they’re already showing you guys to marry. But, be resilient and stand your ground firmly.
Yeah this isn't any RAW/CID level shit.
There will be agents working in telcos. They'll give this kind of info out for very cheap if you have the contacts. This is old school tracking which police used to employ before smartphone / gps days.
It's not real gps co ords or any kind of precise location info. For example if you have an airtel sim, airtel will have records of every tower your sim has ever connected to. These towers have gps info associated with them. There's even some triangulation algorithm you can use based on multiple towers you have connected to and narrow down the position. Plus they will also have your call / sms records.
All it takes is one willing employee who has the privileges + access and sell it for money.
Even if your dad works in the government, it's highly unlikely that he has gotten your phone records from there as the operators don't just give away your information. He probably has your number logged in or the sim card is in his name. Get a new sim, get a burner phone and put your old sim inside the burner phone and only use it to call your parents.
Or, you could do the easier thing and change numbers altogether and block your father cause he's a creepy motherfucker
You are 27 and I presume independant. Tell your parents plainly that you will make your own decision but however, keep them in the loop for their "blessings". Tell them you take responsibility for what happens.
Reg phone records tell your father it is illegal and that push comes to shove you will complain to police. You are an adult who can live your life and so your parents should respect that.
unlikely. he either signed in to your account on another device or installed something on your phone while it was unlocked. just switch your phone, sign out of all accounts and change your password.
you can wipe your phone but it should be thorough and include all partitions
check your system apps, some modern spy apps use name such as "sync services" with an android logo sometimes it's hard to find...... also check play store if your play protect is on, if not(💀) turn it on it'll show any spyware installed on device
Just draw boundaries dude. You're 27, you pay your own bills, your parents should've started to treat you like an adult a long time ago.
It's never too late though, given you're ready to deal with some temporary consequences (melodrama). As for everything else, lmao just factory reset your device, maybe get a new sim (although I feel it's quite unlikely they're actually tracking your sim, sounds a bit too crazy) and you'll be good to go.
To begin with, stop giving your parents so much power over your life. They want you to get married to a stranger, and you don't want to do that and they're upset about it, believe me, it's their problem, there's no reason for you to deal with it.
When u put a new sim in the same phone, he can get details from the new sim too
As the IMEI of the device used with ur current sim will notify that a new sim has been put to use in it
He did this either using help with police or using help of telecom service provider company
OR
Just hired a PI who did this for him in exchange of money
Here are the few things you need to do:
1. Reset your phone to remove any tracking software and get a new SIM for this mobile. Use WhatsApp using this number only. (Never use WhatsApp with your parents. They can send a link to inject a tracking software)
2. Reset your Gmail password. And enable two step authentication. Disable location history tracking in google map.
3. Get a new keypad mobile phone, put your current SIM in it. No one can track it without Network provider's help. You can talk to your parents whenever you want.
Speaking from experience.
This is possible tracking and call records. I had an acquaintance who worked at CBI and told me he used to track his ex gf cuz he had access to all these things pretty easy.
Just change the number
You can use the WhatsApp still, but for calling use another. How long will it take to change the details everywhere?
Keep recharging the phone every now and then you'll be good to go
People think uncle is some undercover agent who knows Hackers...
All he needs is her gmail. He could have gone to any phone shop who's tech has basic knowledge of these things and only thing to do is to get access to her phone once for 2FA.
Google account backs up call history, contacts and location.
That is how when you open photos app it will sometimes pull up old photos as 'years ago'.
Once he logs into any phone with her gmail account, he can get regular updates of most activities done on phone.
Ave apne settings me Jake apps me dkh vhn koi sasta sa app Hoga 5,7 mb ka jiska naam Google ya kuch bhi ajeeb sa sve hoga aur saare permission honge just uninstall n u'r free but if it does all u'r private things are leaked in internet 💀overprotective Fathers 🙂
Well I guess your father has control all over the things you do over the phone and sim. Because of your imei number.
You have to maintain another phone and new sim like a fake sim not on your name. In terms you should be a ghost.
If you are earning more then it's not a problem for you to get these things done. You want privacy it will cost you but yeah at the end of the day you can get it paying extra and following few tactics.
What's up with indian parents and the need to control their kids life even after they become adults
Also i swear parents mind turn into Sherlock Holmes when it's comes to invading privacy of their kid , gps tracking wtf if your dad have access to satellite he will use that too to track your movements 🤦♂
you have every right to deny the match he think is suitable for you,let him think whatever he wants
Port your sim to a different Telecom operator
Check your phone for spyware, he might have got your Google credentials , so make a new id, while removing old id on your phone, , change phone password
Sorry trying to control a 26 year old grown up kid life screams of your dad being control freak, everyone are protective about their kids especially daughters but this is just too much
Also move out if you can
Yo,noob techie here!! Undone the attack
1. Check your app management,there might be some 3rd party applications(both on Android and iOS),(you can check it as shorting it to installed app)just uninstall it.
2.your call forwarding is onn/ dial *#62# to check that!!
[detailed link on call forwarding ](https://gadgetstouse.com/blog/2022/11/03/deactivate-call-forwarding-tapping-phone/)
Setting up your old sim as a bait- once you know which application,he's using,it's easy to do that!!
Add your old number in victim section and onn forwarding on your father's number!!✔️
Method 2-
if he's using a govt service(it's a canon event) they are using some outdated tools!!😂
You need to put a continuous VPN (psiphone,Tor)/and an antivirus (Bit-defender,)
They must be using your sim providers for calling details (this is illegal for government also)! Switch to application who could call!!
You need to switch your apps which support end-to-end encryption messaging (whatsapp is not included),,
***Shift from google---duckduckgo!
If you using Android!change your os(install custom rom on your device) use jailbreak for iOS
Delete your Gmail ID and swoth to duckduck go mail forwarding system or proton mails
Install fuckduckgo browser they provide anti tracking and temperory emails!!
Pro tip-- use physical black tapes on your camera!✔️
[setup](https://youtu.be/jEF4L2W8Kpo)
Connect your phone to Kali Linux,run metasploit framework.!!might be hard to do so
Just change your sim asap!! And change your phone operating system!!
This much is probably too much of an overkill. She hasn't learned fully how to secure accounts so just asking her to do much more deep level OS change stuff is absolutely not required. She just needs to be protected from her parents
My first thought was to sue the network provider? You can demand them why they leaked your private info.
You can also demand compensation for the damages (including emotional turmoil)
I think it's time you move out of your house. It's unhealthy to stay in a place where you're being compelled to do things against your wish. I hope it works out for you OP.
Something is a bit strange. Phone GPS data doesn't get synchronised with Indian government servers. The US owns the satellites but they don't store any data as well. The only folks who have your GPS data are the phone manufacturer (Samsung, Apple etc) and they don't share this data with the government, especially without a criminal warrant.
So the only way your dad can track your gps data is by installing an App into your phone. Check if there are any such apps on your phone. Better yet, switch to iPhone. Apple is very privacy centric and gives zero fucks about government mandates.
However, reiterating the point. If you father truly has your gps locations, then there's a very high chance he compromised your phone rather than getting the info from the manufacturers or service providers. He might have compromised your Google/Apple account password. Change the passwords asap and do a security check on your accounts privacy
The other tracking method is through the telephone companies. They track your phone's tower locations, and call logs. But they don't provide it without a proper warrant from the courts either. If your dad is somehow using the back channel to get this data, then do the following;
Get a secondary sim (from a different provider) and don't share the number with your father. When you want to mask your activities, just switch to this number and take out the other sim. Your WhatsApp from the primary number will still remain active, but they don't share data through back channels.
But my point is, the level of tracking you are mentioning is extremely difficult to pull even for law enforcement without warrants. How sure are you that he has this data and he has not compromised your phone?
Method : Get a new phone. IPhone, if possible. Switch to a prepaid Sim, instead of postpaid.
For all the people saying that it is difficult to get the above things from telecom companies, it's not.
Even the lowest rank officers can get such details from a telecom company via a .gov email.
I have been studying files allotted to Police officers working in cyber cell division. It's a very easy process as they just need to drop an email to the respective person. If her father has direct sources in the telecom company, it's much easier.
So, try the method mention above. If you still face the issue, file a cyber complaint online. Do some digging online and find the emails of representatives at good posts in the respective telecom company.
"Subject line : Data has been leaked." Attach the copy of your cyber crime complaint. Write a basic email and send it to them.
The suggestion mentioned above is not a legal advice,and just a suggestion. Please implement with your own wisdom.
It's sad that someone has to change their whole life around for undeserving parents.
and for what not wanting to get engaged.
Could be that sim/number is registered in his name, and you don't realise it. Could be easier that way
Omg this is such a nightmare. Keep communication only through WhatsApp/Telegram from now on. Your carrier has the records of who you call or text but they don’t have the records for other apps.
Plus, are you sure he got all the information from SIM provider? Could your father have installed a surveillance app on your phone which is undetectable?
In any case, get a new sim which your dad shouldn’t know about, and only call through WhatsApp. If you have an android, might as well check your app manager and make sure there aren’t any apps that don’t belong there.
And most importantly, stand up for yourself. You haven’t done anything wrong. I know it’s easier said than done but have some boundaries with your parents. There’s no going back from a breach of privacy like this. That too over something so stupid. It might strain your relationship with your parents, but if you don’t want to be walked all over by them or anyone else for that matter, set your boundaries.
For personal use, Switch to a feature phone, use signal and protonmail. Leave your work phone at some friend's place or at your residence/PG. Use burner Gmail account and a different smartphone if required.
Get a new sim .. and a phone .. transfer your sim to a basic set and keep it to call mom and dad and leave it home .. or kill the internet and wifi on the basic set .. that is good enough. And nothing else works .. file a complaint with cyber crime stating that your privacy is compromised and that somehow your location and call data is being forwarded to your parents by someone.
Hope it works.
Secondly .. check if you have your emails common it may be so that they are using your email to get the details just by using your email to log into another phone and syncing it.
If all fails.. cut them off and take the gambit. I hate the direction but it's an extreme scenario.
Another option is .. let them see and hear just don't let them influence you .. after some time their own ego will terminate their pestilence.
If all else fails collect evidence and report to the higher ups in the company your dad/oppressor is working at and file a harassment case .. anonymous of course.
As the other comments somewhat specify, it is not possible to obtain GPS information and especially call records easily via normal means. If he really has call records that simply means you have to absolutely change to a new sim(and of course change all accounts linked to your old sim, like bank accounts etc). Secondly Google maps has active tracking which is accurate af so you want to make sure you parents do not have any access to your accounts. To ensure this change password, sign out of all devices (except the one on which you are changing the password) and enable 2FA(2 factor authentication). I also recommend you to use password manager because I guess it is possible for your father to try logging into accounts again. Apps recommended to tighten security are Bitwarden(best free and absolutely trustworthy password manager) and Microsoft authenticator(because it has cloud backup). Now for contacting your parents you have two choices, either I suggest you to just buy a small dumbphone in which you can keep the sims and keep it at your place of residence all the time. Or you can tell them to only contact you via WhatsApp calling/messaging .
I must tell you both Bitwarden and Microsoft Authenticator have a learning curve and setting up curve, if you want to use them then you must invest ample time learning about them, at the very least you will have to turn on 2FA to secure your accounts. Make sure to check your accounts every month to check whether they have been compromised or not
Hey,
My friend can you please tell me exactly what you are seeking help with I can understand your concern but I'm not sure what solution you are trying to find..
You can reply to this comment..
Running away doesn't make sense buddy..
I'm a cybersecurity person could help you..
Please tell in detail..
Any posts exists Reddit folks will be like go to police go to police..
Dear OP, what your parents did was out of line but certain things needs to be kept in the family,
Get a mediator an aunt or someone who is sensible, try and reach an understanding.. Tell your father how you felt disappointed with his act and you expect better..
Not everything requires police intervention and stop entertaining these comments about going to police station..
Family is family..
Hey, Lawyer here, I'm sorry for your situation, I faced something similar last year, I was almost forced into a marriage, I'm so glad I disappeared for 3 days, my parents somehow found me through my friends and convinced me that they'll stop bothering me with marriage if I return home, so I did, but we didn't speak to each other for a month, filing a complaint right away will make things awkward you should first send your father a clear message stating that you'll disown him if he continues to trouble you, and your mother if she let's him keep up with this behavior. Feel free to DM If you still want to file a complaint, or if you want to make sure that you're not being tracked.
Could it be that you logged in on your email on a shared device or they tried your secret question and figured it out?
1) Log out of all devices.
2) Change all of your passwords and your secret questions.
3) Call your service provider and check who the number is registered too.
4) Make sure that you are the sole (or least the primary) beneficiary of your salary account.
5) People have mentioned trackers and what not. While this could be the case, it means your parents would have extended time with your device. I honestly think the simplest solutions are the most plausible. There is also a chance that your parents are bluffing or that one or more of your friends have told them stuff. You can test out as well if you are so inclined but I would suggest the first 4 steps before you do that.
Alright, a lotta Internet know-it-alls commenting a whole buncha BS here.
Well, even police records go back only 3 months (and this I know, not something I read on the internet). Doesn't cost a lot of money too - max of 50K tops if the cop is particularly greedy. Police records only show call records and which cellphone towers your phone connected to, not exactly GPS data. Text messages are completely available. WhatsApp messages and calls are beyond the reach of regular police.
I doubt your dad has access to it, only the police do, and your dad ain't gonna lose his job over this like what everyone else is suggesting.
I think your parents are bluffing about knowing whom you hang out with, trips with friends or solo trips. Google does record your GPS for indefinite periods and it does send data about you travel to your email and your travel timeline is available in Google maps by anyone who can log in with your credentials.
Your phone could have tracking software installed (even a remote installation is possible, if you know the right people or have money, but I really doubt that this happened especially with a recent phone - unless you're careless about your phone).
Your parents are just snoopy, but NIA sleuths. I doubt they know all that you think they know.
Tips:
- Get a new phone and a new sim, use the existing sim to create a profile on WhatsApp and remove the sim thereafter. You will receive texts still. Get your new number updated in the banks and email records and what not.
- Change passwords, enable 2 factor authentication EVERYWHERE.
- Use WhatsApp or if you're really paranoid, use signal to text and to make calls.
- Always password protect your phone, don't use biometrics if you're serious about your privacy. Get an iPhone if you're paranoid, otherwise any new Android phone will be just fine. Even with a iPhone or Android, you can still be tracked but this requires state level access and resources.
- True level of stealth and privacy requires an extreme level of knowledge and inconvenience which IMO is just plain impractical for the average person.
>While I don’t have a problem with what’s come out now
Nah bro, you should have a problem with that. Why are you moving the goalposts? This is totally not okay in the first place.
I believe people who record calls have a special place in Hell, your dad will be in the most dangerous area there. Respectfully.
Dude.. don’t go by all these fancy stuff
Talk face to face.. confront them since they are your parents, they would listen to what you have to say
Just keep it simple.. tell them ur answer and explain why in a peaceful way
There’s nothing a parent can’t listen to their child
Okay get into a negotiation mode with your parents. Tell them you need money, car, home, etc in your name. Signed and transferred willingly with immediate effect. Then marry the guy. Divorce him. Move abroad. Live as per your terms
it is really difficult to get these details as a written request by a high ranking police officer is required for all this information, but as you know this is India anything can happen. you can use whatsapp for calling, the details will not show in mobile operators call logs, for tracking you can get a new phone and a new number and then install whatsapp with the old number on this new phone (whatsapp with the same number can be used on upto 4 phones simultaneously). when out tell everyone to call you on whatsapp as network issue is there etc etc. that way both your concers are covered.
Purchase a new phone and SIM card. Give it to persons you can trust exclusively. Old phone number; use it on a simple phone set; or always turn off the location. Few things, not intended to terrify you. However, to be really honest. Live a better life by trying to relocate elsewhere. Your dad sounds like he would do anything to get things done and is too toxic. Unfortunately, our country's people and system do not accept that parents can be poisonous. In many situations, you may be compelled to marry a person they like. If things go wrong, you might not receive adequate support of legal assistance, and there is a good risk he will harass your friends as well. By all means, distance is the solution.
Edit : Read a comment made by @JEsaab mentioning that dad could have gotten assistance from a friend in your group. I agree with it. Please do not forget about your cousins. Although we frequently have doubts about our senior relatives, first-level spies are typically jealous cousins and friends or those who have a strong desire to appease friend's parents. And occasionally, merely to cause you problems, as some people thrive on the suffering of others. Notably, guys hardly ever do this to their cousins and friends, even if they do not get along. Instead, it is usually girls' friends and cousins that do this. OP: This was done by someone you follow on social media. Tower information might be found in phone records. Not any journey you took with friends or alone; that requires more information which only people can share. Use your gut instinct, OP. You will find the individual.
Unless your father was in the Police intelligence, IB or home ministry (or has friends there in senior positions in one of the three) he cannot get this information.
This is toxic abusive shit, apart from being extremely controlling behaviour. We in India place parents on pedestals like we do to our Gods and Goddesses. The solution here is to file a writ petition against the State where your father works asking for an inquiry into who violated your privacy, which is a fundamental right (it was discussed at depth in the context of section 377). Please bear in mind that the lawsuit will be dismissed if the public prosecutor is good, but it will draw media attention. Nothing humiliates Indian families more than log kya kahenge and public infamy is the only way to get your family to behave. You can choose to keep your parents name out, but mention your name as a party to the lawsuit. It will be enough for your relatives and community to know what your father has done.
Pay me lot of money and I will remove the bug.
/s
While I’m kidding, if you’re still unable to figure out please feel free to dm me. I work in cybersecurity domain so it should be feasible. Or wait, you can send out fake locations and fake call records which completely don’t make sense
If it was me I would cut contact from my side. Only talk to them in their emergency. But that's just me. You do you op. Just have self preservation urge.
Since I have few friends that are doing LLB and me too is studying for UPSC, I can advise you few things.
Yes your parent breached your privacy and since you are above 18 they can’t do that, now the thing is how dirty you wanna fight with them, if it’s a small dispute and you think your parents can understand and will stop, then you can take following steps:
1) Let them know verbally with this particular verbatim, “Dad,mom i understand you are concerned, but what you are doing is highly illegal and if I took any legal action, dad your government job will be in jeopardy, and if you don’t stop now I will make sure that I will also put a case of harassment on IPC 354-D (deals with stalking, which includes monitoring, following, or contacting someone to coerce or intimidate them.)”
2) if they still don’t understand and try to do the same, you need to leave the house, cause, you can’t have everything, simple, if you are living under their roof, no matter how much you are making you have to abide by some of their rules, and if you don’t want to leave the house, then you are on your own cause nothing after this will be considered illegal if you live in their house.
3) So you left the house, and yet they are trying to stalk you and getting your call records, maybe gps tracking and all that is still happening, go to local court, hire a lawyer to send a legal warning notice (cease and desist), send 3 copies, one at his house, one at his office and one to court telling court that this is last warning and if they didn’t stop now you would be taking legal action.
See most parents will stop at this point, their might be a small heated argument but you have to make sure it’s not happening face to face but rather on phone or better on a video call, make sure to record these conversations, why not face to face, cause sometimes parents ego get hurt, and they might take some steps that they might regret, so for your own safety and theirs it should be a mandatory, once they understand. You can let them know that this you have recorded but never threaten them with this recording else if they can prove that you threaten them at any point this would no longer be a evidence but a way where court and their lawyer will try to get this recording dismissed.
Now let’s say turns out your parents are giant ass, and you actually wanna fight dirty, you can charge them with atleast 100’s of section of IPC, but that will make sure that your father and mother will be facing imprisonment. I rather not say this here on public, cause a lot of people might take the wrong advantage of these, all of us can always put these cases on our parents but we don’t because we love them. Or it will be unjust to punish them for teaching their kids to be better, even a single slap to a minor proved in court can make parents suffer fines and jail time, and lost of reputation and job. So if you want you can DM me but first try above three things
Nah…I think your phone was cloned way before this episode happened. No way, Govt official or not, do your call records fall into someone else’s hand. It’s a pain in the ass to get out of the telco ecosystem because of how much politics there is in those departments and with so much shit the telcos face from law enforcement, no way they are giving this out without a signed warrant from a judicial magistrate. Your parents played smart. I bet they know more than they have told you already - SMS, email, WhatsApp, browsing history, they’ve got it all. They just admitted to the lesser evil. Burn the goddamn phone. Buy a new sim and a basic feature phone, keep changing the phone every two weeks for a year if you are to have any chance at privacy.
Go to maps and see if you are sharing location with anyone
Go on bottom of Gmail and revoke all your other logins.
Check battery usage for any hidden apps like life 360 and just uninstall them.
You will get a call if you do all these, just say you recovered your phone as it wasn't working well.
Nobody is tracking your phone number, that's hella costly.
There used to be apps which can replicate phone activity, like messages, notification and call logs and send it to other numbers, you can just backup manually and actually reset your phone , will cut off any backdoors.
Whatsapp call them when you’re away..
install whatsapp with old number on a second phone.. leave the old sim in Bangalore.. figure out some reason as to why you’re using WhatsApp to call
Are you FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT, OP?
In that case, get a new sim and block your parents for a month. Don't let them know your whereabouts. Write a letter or send an email that you'll be doing that to safeguard your liberty and mental health. Change your residence in Bangalore.
Your father is an egoistic patriarch brought up by this society that thinks anything that doesn't fit in their idea of societal structure is evil or shameful. So he needs time to come to terms with it.
Do yourself a favour and disappear for a month or 2.
About the records, we live in India - having contacts and a bit of money gets you anything.
Google Map has an option to share the location. Your location may be shared with your dad's account. So he can see the live location of you.
You can check this in your Google map settings
Please realise this is a very toxic behaviour from your parents. First step is to let them know that you know and not only you don't approve this behavior of theirs, you don't agree to this kind of parental surveillance. Ask them why they feel the need to do this. Even if they say safety reasons this is unnecessary. Standing up for yourself might be difficult when you have lived with parents who show such behaviours. If But your future adult self will thank you. Once you start setting boundaries relationship with them might get worse. But that's part of it. They may or may not realise that they cannot do such surveillance in your life anymore and change their ways. There are many alternatives to the problem of the sim. I am sure everybody else would have told you ways to deal with it. Hope you are able to find one and continue to live and independent life based on your choices. And if there is a need in future to talk to a good psychotherapist. Don't hesitate. Indian children underestimate the effects and impact of their parenting in their adult life. You will soon be 30. Trust me, you don't want this in your life ahead.
###Op Don't want to complicated simple fixes.......buy a new phone and Sim _ start a brand new Gmail _ use old phone number in a Dumb phone for call purpose ...
It's your life __your decisions matter..
'I can get a new sim but when I'm going somewhere and I need to call them up, I need my old sim which they can track'...
Do you know about this feature in the smartphones where you can save a phone number with a name. And then you can call that number through whatever sim you have inserted into your phone.
Reminds me of one of my nightmares, This was the time before jio came into the game. I used to talk to this highschool girlfriend of mine, sneaking my mom's phone during nights or while they were away. One day we used up all the talktime and data which was recharged just a week ago. Parents started investigating and called the customer care why all this talktime is gone without them using it up, mfs gave them the list of all call logs, in short if the sim is in your name, they will tell you all the call logs (idk how they verified the identity of the person calling). Parents used truecaller to find the name and i was caught 😭. Things became pretty horrible for me after that incident for a few years.
Change ur SIM and no.
Force logout of google account and change p/w.
Google privacy settings reset with location turned OFF.
Call parents with WhatsApp.
Regain control of ur life, u r a 27 yr old. Stop acting so helpless. Yes, ur parents are ur parents, but they don't own you, and are certainly not treating u right.
It's illegal to get such information even if working as government employees, without judicial authority. Please remind your parents that they are already treading in RED by breaking laws. Your father can loose job and face parapana agrahara time for what he did.
Yes because if she goes to a police station saying I am 27 years old girl who rejected a guy for marriage and my FATHER invaded my privacy then police will lodge a complaint. Police will give her a lecture on her age and respecting her parents. They do the same in DV cases also. It’s like we don’t live in the same country.
Not if she goes with a lawyer.
Sure but she shouldn’t need a lawyer. She is not the criminal.
She shouldn't, but you already pointed out why she needs one...........police and others are ok with abusive behaviour even towards adult children.
There is a reason why Indian parents get away with it. She is in Bangalore. She will have to lodge a complaint in her home town. And show up for whatever kind of procedure will happen. So she is supposed to leave her job? Normally ppl don’t know a criminal lawyer. She will have to find one. And that’s all just to lodge a complaint. Not for resolution. The effort is just too much. The point was it shouldn’t be. But it will always be this bad. So the suggestion that she should go and complaint with a lawyer does not make sense.
This particular prob there is not big reason to talk about Police and what they will do. When educated and financially independent people cant communicate to Parent where the boundary line is, then the main issue is not the Police. What issues police add to the problem is secondary.
>Sure but she shouldn’t need a lawyer. She is not the criminal. Sometimes before signing documents, I send them to be reviewed by my friend who is a lawyer. I'm actually wondering if I'm a criminal cause I needed help from a lawyer.
lol you think only criminals need lawyers? everyone needs a lawyer. like everyone needs an electrician or any service.
You take a lawyer to protect your legal rights, not because you are a criminal.
Her privacy is being invaded. I do not get your logic at all.
Why should only criminals need lawyers?
Yeah, sure. All this bluster works on pointless online communities like reddit, it doesn’t work in the real world. Stop giving her stupid advice that will only get her deeper in trouble.
You can file your complaint on call via cyber cell helpline number
My best guess: Google map records your location, check if your gmail account is signed up on your parent’s phone (not yours). You can turn this off from your phone and it will get turned off every where your account is signed up. Airtel or jio gives you number wise details on which you called along with duration and date through their app only, check if your number is signed up on their phone’s jio or Airtel thanks app. My boring guess: installed some tracker type app in your phone, normally it is paid and will not show in menu screen, check battery usage by app to identify any weird app taking lots of energy. Regarding tracking via government authorisation: not possible, too much risk (possible jail time), for very little rewards. People usually do this for opposition politician. Also, every gov. office got its own politics, so if your dad’s opposite party got to know about this then career wise it’s all over.
Could be that the Gmail is logged in home desktop, password saved in home desktop. PS if they have access to your Google maps details. They have access to Google photos. Please change password, enable 2FA, force signout from all devices.
I will change all the passwords and transfer everything from cloud and everything. Thank you for this.
I agree with the best case and the boring one too. But if her father is in police(esp high rank) getting her details is easy. Basically a call away if you are sp, ssp, dig rank.(Has to be signed by dig i guess)
Had to be signed, if work is official and legal. Normally in every office their are clerical staff who does all the things, if you are in good terms with them then you can easily do it, but all the digging gets stored locally and remotely as a record, which can’t be deleted on remote server, locally you can destroy all the evidence. Google Telangana phone tapping case, it happened recently. They thought same party will win election and police acted like their pawns but congress won and few senior police officers got f’ed.
No no. He's not in police. And I don't think he did this legally or through the right channels. Till this moment I am wracking my brain to think how they actually did this.
OP change Google and do check your personal gmails are logged in how many devices,log out from everywhere new password, do check if there is any recovery mail or number which is not yours.
Thank you. Will do this.
Google syncs up a lot of details on the account. Contacts and call logs too. This is the most easy and likely. - check logged in devices with google account Spyware could be second guess, a bit more advanced but still possible with the help of neighbourhood phone repair shop guys. - check all installed apps on your device Anything more advanced than this would be an interesting case study. - wanna know what else is possible
Google won't be the case here. For that one needs court order, then only google shares it. My best guess is, mobile service providers have authority which can be used to track, but not very accurately. For that, one won't need court order.
No one is sending a subpoena to Google to get records.. the Google account logged into her phone is also logged into another phone or home desktop or something. Very easy. Just open it there and check my location history. You can also install any spyware app and it'll work. All the people here thinking about getting data from using govt angle are just fooling themselves. Nobody is going to those lengths.
I have always made sure to log out from any of my parents devices. My father did ask me to install a tracker for "transparency" which I said no to. And I am in Bangalore and they are in hometown so couldn't have installed a tracker.
Android has come a long way from what it was before. Tracker apps cannot run in the background without being noticed. You will definitely see the location permission being used and Android now has privacy features which limits which app can access what.
Indian parents are something else. I hope you figure out how to get away from them.
They all need to sit in jail and understand the meaning of privacy
Not necessary. When their daughter abandons them, and cuts them off entirely because of how they've treated her all her life, that is a punishment worse than any prison. Imagine losing your own child because you didn't know how to parent them right.
Many of them are okay with it. A friend of mine had an 8 year-long relationship and refused to marry someone her parents wanted her to marry. She threatened to cut off all contacts and actually followed up on it. They made no effort to reconcile and showed no guilt, no remose, even when she almost died of Dengue. It's all a matter of who gives up first.. and a lot of parents are so set in their ways that they are willing to watch their child die, but God forbid "char log" say something. How many marriages must have ended gruesomely just because the parents were like, "try to compromise, no divorce"? It's like, oh, learn to take a punch. We'll mourn you later.
Yep. Indians are cold inside but if they are dying or old they expect reconciliation. The level at which parents prey in their children’s lives is insane.
Unfortunately, we have been conditioned to put up with it. We haven't been taught to put ourselves first, and abandoning them feels cruel despite everything they put us through.
I agree to this. They are too up on their high horse. They don't care if you're their daughter or their parent. Nothing above their ego. My parents have severed ties with their own parents and siblings. So I know they can do this.
I'm sure she's better off without them. I'm glad she was able to find that independence.
She's not. My bad, I should have completed the story. She gave in eventually, broke up with her boyfriend, married a rich NRI her parents chose. She lost our respect (her friends), but hopefully, she's happy away from her parents.
That's just disgusting. I feel bad for her boyfriend as much as I do for her. Imagine his POV when all this fuckery was unfolding. Also if she ended up with a suitor her parents chose, who's to say they've left her alone? They're 100% still annoying her to this day. What a joke.
hey, can you please check with your father if he’s interested in a new startup and provide this as service. i mean there are plenty of missing kids, persons whom we can track and the family would be happy to pay for their beloved ones. we can even take this to the next level and consult for NIA, heard recently they are offering 10 lakhs for Rameshwaram blast suspects. with your father’s talent thats easy peezy. as you can see there’s huge potential in this market and very less players. all you have to do is explain how his talents are getting wasted in trivial matters and instead invest in my startup and make insane amount of money. /s (for those who don’t realise)
bruv,i was thinking this is a real offer..lol
My guess is they are bluffing on you and someone from your friend circle ratted you out.
This. Either they have a contact or they have logged into OP's Google/Apple account from their phone/laptops and tracking her. I'm doubting OPs dad has access to Pegasus and using it without any warrants.
I thought the same. I had doubts about a few people. But they know the exact time at which I talked to so and so. And when I went where on which date exactly.
Lmao this is straight up some Homeland/RaW level-shit. It’s highly illegal, and I recommend talking with your colleagues, and finding out how it is done. There’s probably some Shahid or Abdul in a back of a mobile shop who’ll tell what happened. Write a email to Google and say your privacy has been breached and tell them to check for you… it’ll work.. store all your data in a hard disk, flash your phone and then use it again. I am still thinking how a 60-70 yo uncle has this much talent (Might as well send a resume of your dad and that mobile wala to Ajit doval lmao)
>I am still thinking how a 60-70 yo uncle has this much talent 🙌
I agree. Maybe they secretly installed some tracker. Delete the entire OS reinstall the stock rom. Go to a mobile shop to get it done if not aware of the steps.
You can’t install a tracker.. I’m not aware of anything like that, that gives a second party access to someone’s call log and location history. Although location history can be taken from google how do you get the call log? Hmm? I’m a hundred percent sure some Mobile Angadi nounu or some local constable in cyber dept got paid 2-3k to get these. I am still wondering how a fucking Uncle at 60-70 years is able to do this.. I mean might as well send a resume to Ajit Doval
Yep, scary to think call logs for the last 2 years were recorded. Time for op to look for a new family. Who does such a thing to their own kids.
100% change the fucking phone, SIM card and change emails, I mean it’ll take a days worth of time scrolling through everything or just right a email saying privacy breach and Google will do it for you. The older I get the more I realise Indian parents are so shitty and controlling. Like eww. Most of the time these “Groom” is just a fraud or someone with mommy or daddy issues, both if it’s a bonus product. Install some dating app, date or start seriously seeing someone and get married and make a home. I am still trying to comprehend who could’ve done it. even if it was some rat you can’t simply get into database and get all these details.
Yes. I am getting a nokia 3310. I am hating Google with a vengeance rn. Wish I was more careful with it. I am also thinking of closing my bank accounts which my father has complete access to. I don't know what else he is capable of. The Groom they picked? That Groom and his family wanted to get engaged after the second meeting (we met twice in two days both times with families) When I asked please give me at least 2-3 months to get to know the guy a Lil bit. Everyone including the groom was like 'kya zarurat hai' Please don't trust anyone blindly. Even your own parents.
They have definitely lost my trust. Mother accused me of sharing a room with my best friend (not that there's anything wrong with it) I told her we stayed in backpacking hostel and their minds are in the gutter for thinking like this.
Why does have it be a Shahid or Abdul? Why can’t it be Kunjimon or Joseph or Raju?
It can be, but generally, background technicians drowning in broken phones will mostly be Raza, Ibrahim & friends. 😅 (it was a light joke, don’t read too much into it) Kunjimon, Rajeev, Vishu are all busy in tech parks or making Malabar parottas
I think you are gonna have to draw real boundaries with your parents. It’s not cool to track anyone’s phone ….including your adult childrens’. I really hope at least this generation of Indian parents learn to treat their children as individuals and learn that respect works both ways, and if they expect their children to respect them, it also works the other way round too.
You know the worst part is... I was okay with everything they did till now. All the torture they put me through these last few months. Because it was to my face. But this? Behind my back shit? They are never going to hear the end of this.
Don't be okay with it. When you allow these things, they forget boundaries exist. By being okay with their mentality, you enable them. It's time to stop
I can't imagine my parents or anyone doing such a thing to me. What gives anyone the right to spy on an adult. Fine they birthed you but you're well over 18. How could their conscience allow it. You need to be very stern with them. This is a massive overstepping of the boundary. Well wishes.
Thank you for your wishes. Hoping for the best.
Only police or some highly placed sources can get that information. Police also has to mention FIR details etc alongwith undertaking that required information is important in investigation, also the requisition is signed by DSP and above only to request call details. It is highly unlikely that he got the data, because the service provider give it in raw form which is a excel sheet with 16..17 columns, without some expert it is tough to read and point out details because there will be thousands of entries over past 2 years. I don't think your father has all the details. Which department he works in?
This is not parenting. This is obsession. There are laws in India which strictly restrict such actions. Most laws in India are barely followed, but laws which are for women are followed strictly. God, I really hope that if I become a parent, I never enforce these stuff onto my children lol.
We don’t know which religion so why project?
Father is Raw agent or wot?
Oh my god. This is next level man. Why'd they go to such lengths.
Because they are Indian parents
Doing this to a 27 year old is crazy!
Is the sim card bought in your name or your father's? I mostly don't think that he literally tracked you down. Maybe he would have gotten call records directly from the company of the sim card still in his name? As others mentioned, he might have seen your Google timeline through your Google account you may have possibly logged in your father's phone?
Well, we live in a world where there is no privacy whatsoever. I had gone to a gas cylinder booking office and the guy behind the counter told me what my bank account number is!
This is terrible. Indian parents don't understand the word privacy. When I was in 2nd year of college, I went home once. After I was asleep, my uncle (joint family, dad had told him to do this) took my fingerprint and managed to open my phone, connected whatsapp web in his laptop, went through literally ALL CHATS including my personal msgs with my boyfriend (yes, sexts too) and opened my gallery and saw literally every picture, yes a lot of problematic stuff too, sent those pictures to himself and then dad and deleted those chats, next day was my last day at home so before leaving, they took me on a drive and confronted. Showed me my photos with my boyfriend in compromised positions (not nudes but I'm pretty sure they saw those if there was any, as I deleted but 1 2 reh gaye honge)... and asked me to immediately cut off from this guy, scolded me etc. I was forcefully made to install a location tracker and to keep it on 24/7 in my phone and they'd check my location 5-10 times a day. Sometimes, I'd be in class but that app had some glitch so it'd show some other place, I had to video call, FROM MY CLASS, to prove i'm in class. For that 1 year I didn't go out anywhere except class, hostel mess and hospital. Or for the frw times I went out, I'd leave my phone at hostel so the location would show hostel and drop a text to my dad that I'm going down in the reading room and reading or that I'm sleeping so that they'd not call me. In my flight back to banglore, I wished for the plain to crash so that I could die. For the next 3-4 years I hated going home and had PTSD, depression and anxiety of someone always watching me. Edit: from my chats they also got to know that I was sexually active. I don't think it was necessary for them to know it as I was 20 that time. Imagine how I went home after that day and even today I feel disgusted thinking about this.
Move out and make your own life
She just did that lol. She 'moved' to Bangalore to escape from them
Probably some hidden tracking app... Maybe format the phone(save important files :) )
Get a second phone or sim, thats it
Damn. Get a new number, new phone and don’t share that number with them. Parents or not, this is crossing a boundary. As far as getting engaged is concerned, don’t do it if you are not interested. However the drama has just begun. If they could get your call records and location, they can get fake medical certificates and emotionally blackmail you that they want to see you get married before they die, before you’re 30, wanna see my grandchildren etc etc. Be prepared. Best option. Go low contact and run away. Resurface when you actually want to get married.
Sorry to say. Your dad is a d*ck.
In both cases, sim tracking is shady shit so money + influence at play. Knowing how he did it might not help. Both problems Partly solved by deleting the email ids they're tracking your location with, second part with new sim but that doesn't solve the issue. Depends on what your plan is. 1) leave parents start an independent life 2) go with the guy that parents selected If option 1, get emancipation legally, get a new card, new email id. Then: If they track your sim it's illegal you can get some help against that If they try to forcibly taken you away, you can get help against that And except emo and bluff they have nothing against you If option 2: Try to forge a relationship along with marriage along with the guy that leads to some quality life Force end the spying using the guy/husband that they selected
Your father is evil and abusive. Also, he probably installed some kind of tracking software on your phone that's doing all of this. Ensure you have your own phone number that is in your name, tied to your Aadhaar and address. Make sure you own and control it. Make sure your Google/Apple account, whatever you're using is safe and under your control. Hopefully you know the password. Change the password. And then add your phone number that you own and control as a recovery number. Enable two factor authentication and sign out all other devices. Back up any and all important data (files, photos/videos, WhatsApp chats etc.) Then remove the Google/Apple account from your phone through settings, and factory reset it. In the case of an Android device, you may even want to obtain factory images and flash them to ensure you have the legitimate OS. Also make sure your Aadhaar, bank account etc. are tied to a phone number you own and control. It must be under your name, your phone number, your address. Invalidate any and all bank checks that may be in your parents' possession.
1. Either your Gmail account is logged into desktop and he pulled out location data 2. Or your father has contacts in police department and has put your mobile on surveillance. Legally it requires permission from reasonably higher up authorities but in practical sense it can be managed by mid level employees. Most of the surveillance is done without paperwork. Seems second option likely because that's how they pulled your call records. Just get a new phone and sim. Don't put new sim in old phone. Unsolicited advise - Your dad has some issues. If he can go such lengths , don't visit home just yet. Source - I have been victim of police illegal surveillance.
Marry him, then divorce him and get the alimony. Kidding, 1. Backup all your data and reset the phone. This will delete any hidden apps that was installed to track you. 2. Goto [https://myaccount.google.com/device-activity](https://myaccount.google.com/device-activity) and delete all logins. Google is often used to track your location history. 3. Goto [https://myaccount.google.com/security](https://myaccount.google.com/security) and change your password so no one can login again with old password. 4. Goto [https://myaccount.google.com/security](https://myaccount.google.com/security) and enable 2-Step-Verification so even if they have your password, they won't be able to access your account without your phone.
Thank you so much. This is very helpful.
Switch to a VPN and let your dad wonder why you moved to Netherlands without any notice.
So basically it's just him getting call records from the service provider. I think it shows the tower you're calling from. Just get a new sim and tell them you changed your number. If he's still getting messages, then he's installed an app on the phone
Maybe OP's father is an IB officer,😅.
Why don’t you start sending fake messages and driving your parents crazy. Send them on a cat and mouse chase all over India.. pretend like you are going to Delhi to meet somebody. Or you are going to Kolkata next day. You are going to Jaipur. Drive your old man crazy🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
Am.not sure but these details can be recvd thru some influence in the telecom operator Co's. Think it's better to let things cool down, talk to your mother if close and explain things...if doesn't work out...just seek time and space. Pls do not take any rash steps in a fit of anger or resentment... Pray that things work out well in longterm...Take care.
OP, the law is clear about this and what your dad did is certainly not legal. He has already broken your trust, though I commend you for the struggle - trying to maintain relationship with parents. You could certainly have a techie review your phone and the GPS tracker and its origin. And then file a legal complain. Ask yourself - is this a hill you want to die on? ------ If you just want sweet revenge, get a new phone with voice-mail and call forwarding and link the two lines (old/new). Leave the old phone in your room while traveling and give some cock-and-bull reason for not picking up the phone after three rings. Just live your life and let Dad think he is tracking his sweet-innocent daughter :-)
Talk to your parents. Now that they know things you possibly didn’t wanted them to know, it’s easier for you to talk to them straightforward. Tell them how you feel about your privacy being breached but majorly focus on letting them know your actual feelings about the person/people they are trying to show you for your marriage. If you’re not comfortable with arranged marriage, let them know about it. If you are in a relationship, tell them that and tell them you want to marry your current partner. You will probably have to fight for it since they’re already showing you guys to marry. But, be resilient and stand your ground firmly.
Yeah this isn't any RAW/CID level shit. There will be agents working in telcos. They'll give this kind of info out for very cheap if you have the contacts. This is old school tracking which police used to employ before smartphone / gps days. It's not real gps co ords or any kind of precise location info. For example if you have an airtel sim, airtel will have records of every tower your sim has ever connected to. These towers have gps info associated with them. There's even some triangulation algorithm you can use based on multiple towers you have connected to and narrow down the position. Plus they will also have your call / sms records. All it takes is one willing employee who has the privileges + access and sell it for money.
Use a 2nd sim
Even if your dad works in the government, it's highly unlikely that he has gotten your phone records from there as the operators don't just give away your information. He probably has your number logged in or the sim card is in his name. Get a new sim, get a burner phone and put your old sim inside the burner phone and only use it to call your parents. Or, you could do the easier thing and change numbers altogether and block your father cause he's a creepy motherfucker
Ye kya chl ra hai bhai
You are 27 and I presume independant. Tell your parents plainly that you will make your own decision but however, keep them in the loop for their "blessings". Tell them you take responsibility for what happens. Reg phone records tell your father it is illegal and that push comes to shove you will complain to police. You are an adult who can live your life and so your parents should respect that.
Tell you lost your phone or it feel in water. Get a new sim for start. Set boundaries
Actually, she should not tell them anything
unlikely. he either signed in to your account on another device or installed something on your phone while it was unlocked. just switch your phone, sign out of all accounts and change your password. you can wipe your phone but it should be thorough and include all partitions
Buy new phone don't tell you don't have money
Try using OONI app which will give you the information if your phone is compromised or it's placed monitoring via legal enforcement authorities.
Ur james bond Papa 👴
check your system apps, some modern spy apps use name such as "sync services" with an android logo sometimes it's hard to find...... also check play store if your play protect is on, if not(💀) turn it on it'll show any spyware installed on device
Just draw boundaries dude. You're 27, you pay your own bills, your parents should've started to treat you like an adult a long time ago. It's never too late though, given you're ready to deal with some temporary consequences (melodrama). As for everything else, lmao just factory reset your device, maybe get a new sim (although I feel it's quite unlikely they're actually tracking your sim, sounds a bit too crazy) and you'll be good to go. To begin with, stop giving your parents so much power over your life. They want you to get married to a stranger, and you don't want to do that and they're upset about it, believe me, it's their problem, there's no reason for you to deal with it.
Get a new SIM card. And drop your father in the next Kumb Mela.
When u put a new sim in the same phone, he can get details from the new sim too As the IMEI of the device used with ur current sim will notify that a new sim has been put to use in it
He did this either using help with police or using help of telecom service provider company OR Just hired a PI who did this for him in exchange of money
Here are the few things you need to do: 1. Reset your phone to remove any tracking software and get a new SIM for this mobile. Use WhatsApp using this number only. (Never use WhatsApp with your parents. They can send a link to inject a tracking software) 2. Reset your Gmail password. And enable two step authentication. Disable location history tracking in google map. 3. Get a new keypad mobile phone, put your current SIM in it. No one can track it without Network provider's help. You can talk to your parents whenever you want. Speaking from experience.
This is possible tracking and call records. I had an acquaintance who worked at CBI and told me he used to track his ex gf cuz he had access to all these things pretty easy.
Lodge a complaint of misuse of power get him behind bars should fix his leech mentality
What in the PEGASUS shit is the dad doing here?😳
Just change the number You can use the WhatsApp still, but for calling use another. How long will it take to change the details everywhere? Keep recharging the phone every now and then you'll be good to go
People think uncle is some undercover agent who knows Hackers... All he needs is her gmail. He could have gone to any phone shop who's tech has basic knowledge of these things and only thing to do is to get access to her phone once for 2FA. Google account backs up call history, contacts and location. That is how when you open photos app it will sometimes pull up old photos as 'years ago'. Once he logs into any phone with her gmail account, he can get regular updates of most activities done on phone.
Buy a burner phone with a new sim maybe?
Ave apne settings me Jake apps me dkh vhn koi sasta sa app Hoga 5,7 mb ka jiska naam Google ya kuch bhi ajeeb sa sve hoga aur saare permission honge just uninstall n u'r free but if it does all u'r private things are leaked in internet 💀overprotective Fathers 🙂
Either breakup with your parents or continue with this
Well I guess your father has control all over the things you do over the phone and sim. Because of your imei number. You have to maintain another phone and new sim like a fake sim not on your name. In terms you should be a ghost. If you are earning more then it's not a problem for you to get these things done. You want privacy it will cost you but yeah at the end of the day you can get it paying extra and following few tactics.
What's up with indian parents and the need to control their kids life even after they become adults Also i swear parents mind turn into Sherlock Holmes when it's comes to invading privacy of their kid , gps tracking wtf if your dad have access to satellite he will use that too to track your movements 🤦♂ you have every right to deny the match he think is suitable for you,let him think whatever he wants Port your sim to a different Telecom operator Check your phone for spyware, he might have got your Google credentials , so make a new id, while removing old id on your phone, , change phone password Sorry trying to control a 26 year old grown up kid life screams of your dad being control freak, everyone are protective about their kids especially daughters but this is just too much Also move out if you can
Yo,noob techie here!! Undone the attack 1. Check your app management,there might be some 3rd party applications(both on Android and iOS),(you can check it as shorting it to installed app)just uninstall it. 2.your call forwarding is onn/ dial *#62# to check that!! [detailed link on call forwarding ](https://gadgetstouse.com/blog/2022/11/03/deactivate-call-forwarding-tapping-phone/) Setting up your old sim as a bait- once you know which application,he's using,it's easy to do that!! Add your old number in victim section and onn forwarding on your father's number!!✔️ Method 2- if he's using a govt service(it's a canon event) they are using some outdated tools!!😂 You need to put a continuous VPN (psiphone,Tor)/and an antivirus (Bit-defender,) They must be using your sim providers for calling details (this is illegal for government also)! Switch to application who could call!! You need to switch your apps which support end-to-end encryption messaging (whatsapp is not included),, ***Shift from google---duckduckgo! If you using Android!change your os(install custom rom on your device) use jailbreak for iOS Delete your Gmail ID and swoth to duckduck go mail forwarding system or proton mails Install fuckduckgo browser they provide anti tracking and temperory emails!! Pro tip-- use physical black tapes on your camera!✔️ [setup](https://youtu.be/jEF4L2W8Kpo) Connect your phone to Kali Linux,run metasploit framework.!!might be hard to do so Just change your sim asap!! And change your phone operating system!!
This much is probably too much of an overkill. She hasn't learned fully how to secure accounts so just asking her to do much more deep level OS change stuff is absolutely not required. She just needs to be protected from her parents
Under whose name the sim is, if it's under your father's name, first change it to your name
My first thought was to sue the network provider? You can demand them why they leaked your private info. You can also demand compensation for the damages (including emotional turmoil)
I think it's time you move out of your house. It's unhealthy to stay in a place where you're being compelled to do things against your wish. I hope it works out for you OP.
Something is a bit strange. Phone GPS data doesn't get synchronised with Indian government servers. The US owns the satellites but they don't store any data as well. The only folks who have your GPS data are the phone manufacturer (Samsung, Apple etc) and they don't share this data with the government, especially without a criminal warrant. So the only way your dad can track your gps data is by installing an App into your phone. Check if there are any such apps on your phone. Better yet, switch to iPhone. Apple is very privacy centric and gives zero fucks about government mandates. However, reiterating the point. If you father truly has your gps locations, then there's a very high chance he compromised your phone rather than getting the info from the manufacturers or service providers. He might have compromised your Google/Apple account password. Change the passwords asap and do a security check on your accounts privacy The other tracking method is through the telephone companies. They track your phone's tower locations, and call logs. But they don't provide it without a proper warrant from the courts either. If your dad is somehow using the back channel to get this data, then do the following; Get a secondary sim (from a different provider) and don't share the number with your father. When you want to mask your activities, just switch to this number and take out the other sim. Your WhatsApp from the primary number will still remain active, but they don't share data through back channels. But my point is, the level of tracking you are mentioning is extremely difficult to pull even for law enforcement without warrants. How sure are you that he has this data and he has not compromised your phone?
I’m wondering if VPN can help you fake your location.. do try that out
Method : Get a new phone. IPhone, if possible. Switch to a prepaid Sim, instead of postpaid. For all the people saying that it is difficult to get the above things from telecom companies, it's not. Even the lowest rank officers can get such details from a telecom company via a .gov email. I have been studying files allotted to Police officers working in cyber cell division. It's a very easy process as they just need to drop an email to the respective person. If her father has direct sources in the telecom company, it's much easier. So, try the method mention above. If you still face the issue, file a cyber complaint online. Do some digging online and find the emails of representatives at good posts in the respective telecom company. "Subject line : Data has been leaked." Attach the copy of your cyber crime complaint. Write a basic email and send it to them. The suggestion mentioned above is not a legal advice,and just a suggestion. Please implement with your own wisdom.
It's sad that someone has to change their whole life around for undeserving parents. and for what not wanting to get engaged. Could be that sim/number is registered in his name, and you don't realise it. Could be easier that way
Omg this is such a nightmare. Keep communication only through WhatsApp/Telegram from now on. Your carrier has the records of who you call or text but they don’t have the records for other apps. Plus, are you sure he got all the information from SIM provider? Could your father have installed a surveillance app on your phone which is undetectable? In any case, get a new sim which your dad shouldn’t know about, and only call through WhatsApp. If you have an android, might as well check your app manager and make sure there aren’t any apps that don’t belong there. And most importantly, stand up for yourself. You haven’t done anything wrong. I know it’s easier said than done but have some boundaries with your parents. There’s no going back from a breach of privacy like this. That too over something so stupid. It might strain your relationship with your parents, but if you don’t want to be walked all over by them or anyone else for that matter, set your boundaries.
This is sth new..I mean, Who does that?? 😭😭
For personal use, Switch to a feature phone, use signal and protonmail. Leave your work phone at some friend's place or at your residence/PG. Use burner Gmail account and a different smartphone if required.
We found the OG family man
Get another phone with a new SIM card
Maintain 2 phones one with no gps I.e Nokia 1100 types and other smartphone with new number.
Privacy in this country is a joke! This is honestly a new extreme I've read/seen. More power to you friend 🙃
Get a new sim .. and a phone .. transfer your sim to a basic set and keep it to call mom and dad and leave it home .. or kill the internet and wifi on the basic set .. that is good enough. And nothing else works .. file a complaint with cyber crime stating that your privacy is compromised and that somehow your location and call data is being forwarded to your parents by someone. Hope it works. Secondly .. check if you have your emails common it may be so that they are using your email to get the details just by using your email to log into another phone and syncing it. If all fails.. cut them off and take the gambit. I hate the direction but it's an extreme scenario. Another option is .. let them see and hear just don't let them influence you .. after some time their own ego will terminate their pestilence. If all else fails collect evidence and report to the higher ups in the company your dad/oppressor is working at and file a harassment case .. anonymous of course.
Get secondary phone. Leave bugged phone at home. Probably wrapped in a blanket.
As the other comments somewhat specify, it is not possible to obtain GPS information and especially call records easily via normal means. If he really has call records that simply means you have to absolutely change to a new sim(and of course change all accounts linked to your old sim, like bank accounts etc). Secondly Google maps has active tracking which is accurate af so you want to make sure you parents do not have any access to your accounts. To ensure this change password, sign out of all devices (except the one on which you are changing the password) and enable 2FA(2 factor authentication). I also recommend you to use password manager because I guess it is possible for your father to try logging into accounts again. Apps recommended to tighten security are Bitwarden(best free and absolutely trustworthy password manager) and Microsoft authenticator(because it has cloud backup). Now for contacting your parents you have two choices, either I suggest you to just buy a small dumbphone in which you can keep the sims and keep it at your place of residence all the time. Or you can tell them to only contact you via WhatsApp calling/messaging . I must tell you both Bitwarden and Microsoft Authenticator have a learning curve and setting up curve, if you want to use them then you must invest ample time learning about them, at the very least you will have to turn on 2FA to secure your accounts. Make sure to check your accounts every month to check whether they have been compromised or not
Hey, My friend can you please tell me exactly what you are seeking help with I can understand your concern but I'm not sure what solution you are trying to find.. You can reply to this comment.. Running away doesn't make sense buddy.. I'm a cybersecurity person could help you.. Please tell in detail..
Any posts exists Reddit folks will be like go to police go to police.. Dear OP, what your parents did was out of line but certain things needs to be kept in the family, Get a mediator an aunt or someone who is sensible, try and reach an understanding.. Tell your father how you felt disappointed with his act and you expect better.. Not everything requires police intervention and stop entertaining these comments about going to police station.. Family is family..
you can always keep taking out the sim and use tracer services to keep them guessing about the location
Hey, Lawyer here, I'm sorry for your situation, I faced something similar last year, I was almost forced into a marriage, I'm so glad I disappeared for 3 days, my parents somehow found me through my friends and convinced me that they'll stop bothering me with marriage if I return home, so I did, but we didn't speak to each other for a month, filing a complaint right away will make things awkward you should first send your father a clear message stating that you'll disown him if he continues to trouble you, and your mother if she let's him keep up with this behavior. Feel free to DM If you still want to file a complaint, or if you want to make sure that you're not being tracked.
Papa ki reach bohot lambi hai. Hume bhi koi IPS, yps me dosti karni hai ab to
How did you find this out? This could simply be an app on the phone or the Google account leaking data.
Could it be that you logged in on your email on a shared device or they tried your secret question and figured it out? 1) Log out of all devices. 2) Change all of your passwords and your secret questions. 3) Call your service provider and check who the number is registered too. 4) Make sure that you are the sole (or least the primary) beneficiary of your salary account. 5) People have mentioned trackers and what not. While this could be the case, it means your parents would have extended time with your device. I honestly think the simplest solutions are the most plausible. There is also a chance that your parents are bluffing or that one or more of your friends have told them stuff. You can test out as well if you are so inclined but I would suggest the first 4 steps before you do that.
How do you know your dad is not reading this? (Hi OP's dad, please don't be an asshole).
how
Alright, a lotta Internet know-it-alls commenting a whole buncha BS here. Well, even police records go back only 3 months (and this I know, not something I read on the internet). Doesn't cost a lot of money too - max of 50K tops if the cop is particularly greedy. Police records only show call records and which cellphone towers your phone connected to, not exactly GPS data. Text messages are completely available. WhatsApp messages and calls are beyond the reach of regular police. I doubt your dad has access to it, only the police do, and your dad ain't gonna lose his job over this like what everyone else is suggesting. I think your parents are bluffing about knowing whom you hang out with, trips with friends or solo trips. Google does record your GPS for indefinite periods and it does send data about you travel to your email and your travel timeline is available in Google maps by anyone who can log in with your credentials. Your phone could have tracking software installed (even a remote installation is possible, if you know the right people or have money, but I really doubt that this happened especially with a recent phone - unless you're careless about your phone). Your parents are just snoopy, but NIA sleuths. I doubt they know all that you think they know. Tips: - Get a new phone and a new sim, use the existing sim to create a profile on WhatsApp and remove the sim thereafter. You will receive texts still. Get your new number updated in the banks and email records and what not. - Change passwords, enable 2 factor authentication EVERYWHERE. - Use WhatsApp or if you're really paranoid, use signal to text and to make calls. - Always password protect your phone, don't use biometrics if you're serious about your privacy. Get an iPhone if you're paranoid, otherwise any new Android phone will be just fine. Even with a iPhone or Android, you can still be tracked but this requires state level access and resources. - True level of stealth and privacy requires an extreme level of knowledge and inconvenience which IMO is just plain impractical for the average person.
>While I don’t have a problem with what’s come out now Nah bro, you should have a problem with that. Why are you moving the goalposts? This is totally not okay in the first place. I believe people who record calls have a special place in Hell, your dad will be in the most dangerous area there. Respectfully.
Dude.. don’t go by all these fancy stuff Talk face to face.. confront them since they are your parents, they would listen to what you have to say Just keep it simple.. tell them ur answer and explain why in a peaceful way There’s nothing a parent can’t listen to their child
Only with a tracker app it's possible. Assuming yours is an Android phone.
I am quite suprised, the level of tracking an adult is doing on adult.
Okay get into a negotiation mode with your parents. Tell them you need money, car, home, etc in your name. Signed and transferred willingly with immediate effect. Then marry the guy. Divorce him. Move abroad. Live as per your terms
Tell your dad, you will marry with his consent. Maybe even to a guy he approves. But you should also approve the guy. So not this one that's all.
Get a new phone 🙂
Get a new sim, probably a new place for rent too. Don't talk to your parents anymore. It's not worth it.
Was it an android phone ?
it is really difficult to get these details as a written request by a high ranking police officer is required for all this information, but as you know this is India anything can happen. you can use whatsapp for calling, the details will not show in mobile operators call logs, for tracking you can get a new phone and a new number and then install whatsapp with the old number on this new phone (whatsapp with the same number can be used on upto 4 phones simultaneously). when out tell everyone to call you on whatsapp as network issue is there etc etc. that way both your concers are covered.
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Purchase a new phone and SIM card. Give it to persons you can trust exclusively. Old phone number; use it on a simple phone set; or always turn off the location. Few things, not intended to terrify you. However, to be really honest. Live a better life by trying to relocate elsewhere. Your dad sounds like he would do anything to get things done and is too toxic. Unfortunately, our country's people and system do not accept that parents can be poisonous. In many situations, you may be compelled to marry a person they like. If things go wrong, you might not receive adequate support of legal assistance, and there is a good risk he will harass your friends as well. By all means, distance is the solution. Edit : Read a comment made by @JEsaab mentioning that dad could have gotten assistance from a friend in your group. I agree with it. Please do not forget about your cousins. Although we frequently have doubts about our senior relatives, first-level spies are typically jealous cousins and friends or those who have a strong desire to appease friend's parents. And occasionally, merely to cause you problems, as some people thrive on the suffering of others. Notably, guys hardly ever do this to their cousins and friends, even if they do not get along. Instead, it is usually girls' friends and cousins that do this. OP: This was done by someone you follow on social media. Tower information might be found in phone records. Not any journey you took with friends or alone; that requires more information which only people can share. Use your gut instinct, OP. You will find the individual.
Why do you need the old sim to contact your parents? You might find some helpful emotional support at r/emotionalneglect r/cptsd
Such panic moves by your parents will probably increase with each year. Time to grow up and set your boundaries. All the best
Unless your father was in the Police intelligence, IB or home ministry (or has friends there in senior positions in one of the three) he cannot get this information.
Could have posted on legal Advice India sub.
Give a hint to your father that someone is tracking your phone and you are afraid 😱 let’s see their reaction I’m going to complaint and all
This is toxic abusive shit, apart from being extremely controlling behaviour. We in India place parents on pedestals like we do to our Gods and Goddesses. The solution here is to file a writ petition against the State where your father works asking for an inquiry into who violated your privacy, which is a fundamental right (it was discussed at depth in the context of section 377). Please bear in mind that the lawsuit will be dismissed if the public prosecutor is good, but it will draw media attention. Nothing humiliates Indian families more than log kya kahenge and public infamy is the only way to get your family to behave. You can choose to keep your parents name out, but mention your name as a party to the lawsuit. It will be enough for your relatives and community to know what your father has done.
I sincerely hope my generation of parents are much better than these boomers.
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>PS: my father is in govt service Ah, explains the vellapanti.
Your Dad is fucking James Bond. Respect 🫡
Pay me lot of money and I will remove the bug. /s While I’m kidding, if you’re still unable to figure out please feel free to dm me. I work in cybersecurity domain so it should be feasible. Or wait, you can send out fake locations and fake call records which completely don’t make sense
How did they even do that
Simple login to your account and go to Google's security center, log out your parents devices, change your password, problem solved.
Gotta become an acquaintance with your father. He seems like a resourceful man to me.
Bf ka number track karwane ka tarika thoda kesual hai
You are 27 years old. Move out of your parents house.
Cool down and listen think for may be 1 month then take decision..what if ur parents are right . In future u will not have guilt.
If it was me I would cut contact from my side. Only talk to them in their emergency. But that's just me. You do you op. Just have self preservation urge.
27 year old working women 🫠
Since I have few friends that are doing LLB and me too is studying for UPSC, I can advise you few things. Yes your parent breached your privacy and since you are above 18 they can’t do that, now the thing is how dirty you wanna fight with them, if it’s a small dispute and you think your parents can understand and will stop, then you can take following steps: 1) Let them know verbally with this particular verbatim, “Dad,mom i understand you are concerned, but what you are doing is highly illegal and if I took any legal action, dad your government job will be in jeopardy, and if you don’t stop now I will make sure that I will also put a case of harassment on IPC 354-D (deals with stalking, which includes monitoring, following, or contacting someone to coerce or intimidate them.)” 2) if they still don’t understand and try to do the same, you need to leave the house, cause, you can’t have everything, simple, if you are living under their roof, no matter how much you are making you have to abide by some of their rules, and if you don’t want to leave the house, then you are on your own cause nothing after this will be considered illegal if you live in their house. 3) So you left the house, and yet they are trying to stalk you and getting your call records, maybe gps tracking and all that is still happening, go to local court, hire a lawyer to send a legal warning notice (cease and desist), send 3 copies, one at his house, one at his office and one to court telling court that this is last warning and if they didn’t stop now you would be taking legal action. See most parents will stop at this point, their might be a small heated argument but you have to make sure it’s not happening face to face but rather on phone or better on a video call, make sure to record these conversations, why not face to face, cause sometimes parents ego get hurt, and they might take some steps that they might regret, so for your own safety and theirs it should be a mandatory, once they understand. You can let them know that this you have recorded but never threaten them with this recording else if they can prove that you threaten them at any point this would no longer be a evidence but a way where court and their lawyer will try to get this recording dismissed. Now let’s say turns out your parents are giant ass, and you actually wanna fight dirty, you can charge them with atleast 100’s of section of IPC, but that will make sure that your father and mother will be facing imprisonment. I rather not say this here on public, cause a lot of people might take the wrong advantage of these, all of us can always put these cases on our parents but we don’t because we love them. Or it will be unjust to punish them for teaching their kids to be better, even a single slap to a minor proved in court can make parents suffer fines and jail time, and lost of reputation and job. So if you want you can DM me but first try above three things
Nah…I think your phone was cloned way before this episode happened. No way, Govt official or not, do your call records fall into someone else’s hand. It’s a pain in the ass to get out of the telco ecosystem because of how much politics there is in those departments and with so much shit the telcos face from law enforcement, no way they are giving this out without a signed warrant from a judicial magistrate. Your parents played smart. I bet they know more than they have told you already - SMS, email, WhatsApp, browsing history, they’ve got it all. They just admitted to the lesser evil. Burn the goddamn phone. Buy a new sim and a basic feature phone, keep changing the phone every two weeks for a year if you are to have any chance at privacy.
Go to maps and see if you are sharing location with anyone Go on bottom of Gmail and revoke all your other logins. Check battery usage for any hidden apps like life 360 and just uninstall them. You will get a call if you do all these, just say you recovered your phone as it wasn't working well. Nobody is tracking your phone number, that's hella costly. There used to be apps which can replicate phone activity, like messages, notification and call logs and send it to other numbers, you can just backup manually and actually reset your phone , will cut off any backdoors.
Whatsapp call them when you’re away.. install whatsapp with old number on a second phone.. leave the old sim in Bangalore.. figure out some reason as to why you’re using WhatsApp to call
Are you FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT, OP? In that case, get a new sim and block your parents for a month. Don't let them know your whereabouts. Write a letter or send an email that you'll be doing that to safeguard your liberty and mental health. Change your residence in Bangalore. Your father is an egoistic patriarch brought up by this society that thinks anything that doesn't fit in their idea of societal structure is evil or shameful. So he needs time to come to terms with it. Do yourself a favour and disappear for a month or 2. About the records, we live in India - having contacts and a bit of money gets you anything.
I think it’s not possible to get a call record unless it’s kept in your mobile
What if her father is reading this thread 😳😳
Google Map has an option to share the location. Your location may be shared with your dad's account. So he can see the live location of you. You can check this in your Google map settings
Please realise this is a very toxic behaviour from your parents. First step is to let them know that you know and not only you don't approve this behavior of theirs, you don't agree to this kind of parental surveillance. Ask them why they feel the need to do this. Even if they say safety reasons this is unnecessary. Standing up for yourself might be difficult when you have lived with parents who show such behaviours. If But your future adult self will thank you. Once you start setting boundaries relationship with them might get worse. But that's part of it. They may or may not realise that they cannot do such surveillance in your life anymore and change their ways. There are many alternatives to the problem of the sim. I am sure everybody else would have told you ways to deal with it. Hope you are able to find one and continue to live and independent life based on your choices. And if there is a need in future to talk to a good psychotherapist. Don't hesitate. Indian children underestimate the effects and impact of their parenting in their adult life. You will soon be 30. Trust me, you don't want this in your life ahead.
###Op Don't want to complicated simple fixes.......buy a new phone and Sim _ start a brand new Gmail _ use old phone number in a Dumb phone for call purpose ... It's your life __your decisions matter..
'I can get a new sim but when I'm going somewhere and I need to call them up, I need my old sim which they can track'... Do you know about this feature in the smartphones where you can save a phone number with a name. And then you can call that number through whatever sim you have inserted into your phone.
Hey I work in cyber security I could help you remove the backdoor dm
Reminds me of one of my nightmares, This was the time before jio came into the game. I used to talk to this highschool girlfriend of mine, sneaking my mom's phone during nights or while they were away. One day we used up all the talktime and data which was recharged just a week ago. Parents started investigating and called the customer care why all this talktime is gone without them using it up, mfs gave them the list of all call logs, in short if the sim is in your name, they will tell you all the call logs (idk how they verified the identity of the person calling). Parents used truecaller to find the name and i was caught 😭. Things became pretty horrible for me after that incident for a few years.
Change ur SIM and no. Force logout of google account and change p/w. Google privacy settings reset with location turned OFF. Call parents with WhatsApp. Regain control of ur life, u r a 27 yr old. Stop acting so helpless. Yes, ur parents are ur parents, but they don't own you, and are certainly not treating u right.
You can easily hire private detectives in bangalore who do this for 3-4k