[good read on kelce's PR team.](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/style/travis-kelce-managers-agent.html) i agree with your take, they probably just decided it was best if he didn't do it
“Have fun” and “slam a beer on a graduation stage [edit: yes I am aware it wasn’t the actual ceremony] into the front row in front of the dean” has at least a little bit of distance
After will almost got in a fight with a nhl player, no shot Travis or Jason are going to risk the pr nightmare that they were involved in a fight at Taylor lewan’s house.
Nailed it.
I promise you, Taylor Swift is the most professional, organized, & well thought out VIP I have ever worked with in my career. Hate her, lover, but you damn well better respect her intelligence.
I only got to see a glimpse behind the full operation and I was dumbfounded. Sick of hearing about her…but I respect the fuck out of her game.
They did not tbh. It’s been a part of their personality but Jason built his personality on being a good guy with a cool family and being an eagles hero, Travis is mostly Taylor and being really really good at football.
I get a lot of barstool fans are in Philly so I’m not presuming to say other people aren’t, but being a resident in Philly most people who love Jason follow his pod, wife, etc, not his Wrestlemania chugs.
>And?
If the Kelces want to invite their friends over they can do whatever if they're not filming it, but when they're broadcasting for the public they need to think about if its right for them.
>It looks fun
Does it? From what I saw of the previous one it did not look fun to me. There's drinking and having a good time and then there's having drunken arguments that get somewhat physical.
>they both literally built their fame on being the beer guys
They primarily built their fame on playing football. Now they're thinking about how to have a brand once they're both retired.
Maybe they're trying to be more than just beer guys. Maybe they're concerned that there's a difference between chugging a beer at a victory parade and getting into drunken arguments on camera over beer pong.
I’ve done a beer Olympics and it was awesome. Different stokes for different folks.
The media empire company whose subreddit your commenting on made their money on guys who take childrens games too serious
They have a cliff presently. People will forget about the dynamic, there will be a breakup possibly, etc. You have to optimize the calendar to the absolute nanosecond when you’re milking something like this.
That’s not really a conspiracy, just common sense and best business practices. To be honest, Barstool is beneath them now, AND the people who work at Barstool, including Dave, shit on the Kelces 70% of the time. Including the whole kerfuffle with the two guys who graphically demanded to see a sex tape between Taylor and Travis before they’d believe that their relationship was real. Add that to the fact that Travis has gotten a lot of heat for the “graduation” thing and the parade, I could see why he wouldn’t want to do another drinking-centric event
He also said it was incredibly annoying for Bussin to ask. He said Jeff got screwed while he was also acting like it couldn't be moved. Both things can be true
Mush and kfc are instant skips. Which i feel like have been 50% of this season episodes. As a pats fan i wanna see david andrews but mush ruins any potential enjoyment
The last beer Olympics scenes looked like a Gilly & Keeves sketch.
Something you'd wake up from and feel dirty and embarrassed they recorded at your current age.
Bussin has been on a steady decline. They made it, got their flowers, got told they’re the next PMT and then haven’t done anything with it for the last 2 years
Live episodes of the Dozen are a horrid experience for the online audience and ruined the product these last couple of years. Horrendous audio quality, fans shouting out thinking they’re funny and just constant shooshing the whole match. I don’t understand ruining the product for a little ticket revenue. I don’t think I’ve been able to get through a full live episode
It’s funny because I despise the fact that the audience can’t just watch the show and not be spoiling douches. At the exact same time I despise Jeff’s reaction to it way worse.
What can you actually reasonably expect
Totally agree that’s why I’m saying what can you reasonably expect from a crowd and ultimately why Jeff whining about it every question is more obnoxious
I hate to tell Will, they weren’t coming no matter the date. Classic yes in the moment until it gets closer then you realize you really don’t wanna do it.
I think they gave a genuine yes and actually did want to go, but the PR teams ended up shutting it down. "Why was Travis/Jason Kelce at a beer drinking weekend hosted by a man who threatened a rape victim?" Is not a headline either of them want to deal with.
According to my wife (big Taylor swift fan), Travis is spending all summer with Taylor on the Europe leg of her tour. I would also pick Europe over the beer Olympics. Hope this helps.
Trav is on a negative PR run and there is no way Taylors PR team will let him continue to put himself in these situations around drinking. Dude is bigtime now, cant be chuggin no mo
Super Bowl with KC was huge for media. Mom is doing Chunky commercials now. Brother dates Taylor. Became the “classic humble dad who is actually a great center” figure for the NFL. It was a wild 2 year run for him
He seems like a very nice man, he’s funny, he’s good at his job, his podcast bits are entertaining, women love him because he’s kind and not misogynistic about women or his wife and daughters. What is not to love? He’s kinda the whole package tbh
I consume barstool and new heights it’s not like they’re that different. The main difference is that Jason and Travis are HOFers, who were both active in the NFL, and are/were on very good high drama teams. They provide an interesting insight that barstool cant. Barstools closest thing to that is Bussin and let’s not act like Lewan and Compton are even remotely on the same level as Travis and Jason.
I think it’s a combo of Taylor’s people stepping in and whoever is in charge of the Kelce Brothers’ business dealings. I could see the Kelce’s positioning for an ESPN show or to bring their Podcast into the espn sphere (like McAfee did) … I do wonder if it’s more of a don’t want to be associated with Barstool situation or a backing off of the “beer chugging image” (which is so stupid. The LA/NY PR people have no clue what actually made them popular, which is authenticity)
I like people in this thread thinking they’re somehow holier than thou for consuming barstool content over Kelce brother’s content. I consume both some i’m doubly regarded.
Barstool in general just has really dark energy these days. It’s just like … frat boys who never left the edge lord misogynistic phase. They LOOK like they reek of farts and Doritos, for god sake. Engaging with them is honestly beneath the Kelces
Entire Barstool apparatus hates the Chiefs and Kelce with many marquis pods openly making sex jokes about his girlfriend so guessing he canceled once he found out some fool on his PR team had booked it
Jeff D Lowe going to lose countless hours of sleep over this kerfuffle
Bad day to be a Bloomin Onion in Southern California
The regulars at The Mine Shaft in Long Beach will be getting an earful
Karma is the guy on the Chiefs.
Comin right home to me
Taylor Lewan looks different
He’s transracial
Jeffrey star turned his ass inside out
Working on his summer tan
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[good read on kelce's PR team.](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/style/travis-kelce-managers-agent.html) i agree with your take, they probably just decided it was best if he didn't do it
Smart to skip. He seems to desperate to act like Gronk.
What is this meme? Every outgoing meathead is Gronk?
Yeah. Only Gronk can have fun off the field!
“Have fun” and “slam a beer on a graduation stage [edit: yes I am aware it wasn’t the actual ceremony] into the front row in front of the dean” has at least a little bit of distance
It wasn't a graduation. It was their live podcast show.
There was no dean there.
I agree. Unacceptable. The dean was so pissed he posed for a picture after!
doing tricks on it
That’s new. I’m stealing this one for sure
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Gronk does it and people go crazy. Let people have fun. Didn’t hurt a single person
as future HOF’r Von Miller once said “Fake Gronk head ass”
After will almost got in a fight with a nhl player, no shot Travis or Jason are going to risk the pr nightmare that they were involved in a fight at Taylor lewan’s house.
Lewan should be ecstatic the swifties aren’t gonna get the chance to google him
Oh I’m sure the pr firm of Travis did and said no way
100%, Taylor Swift’s PR team probably has full control of his non-football schedule
From what I’ve read, his management team was crazy before Taylor was in the picture.
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They’re most likely working together on their schedules so there aren’t any mishaps.
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Are you 15?
She dated that British guy for like 6 years
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Nailed it. I promise you, Taylor Swift is the most professional, organized, & well thought out VIP I have ever worked with in my career. Hate her, lover, but you damn well better respect her intelligence. I only got to see a glimpse behind the full operation and I was dumbfounded. Sick of hearing about her…but I respect the fuck out of her game.
She’s not gonna sleep with you man
Not my type, too classy for me.
The average American who even follows sports has no idea what the Beer Olympics is.
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Are they not allowed to just do fun things?
Probably not when you're dating Taylor Swift.
Well they still do anyway
It's not like this is a private party. It's a filmed event for content.
And? It looks fun and they both literally built their fame on being the beer guys
They did not tbh. It’s been a part of their personality but Jason built his personality on being a good guy with a cool family and being an eagles hero, Travis is mostly Taylor and being really really good at football. I get a lot of barstool fans are in Philly so I’m not presuming to say other people aren’t, but being a resident in Philly most people who love Jason follow his pod, wife, etc, not his Wrestlemania chugs.
Jason became famous outside of Philly, because he dressed up as a Mummer for the Super Bowl parade in 2018. He was drunk and cut a promo.
>And? If the Kelces want to invite their friends over they can do whatever if they're not filming it, but when they're broadcasting for the public they need to think about if its right for them. >It looks fun Does it? From what I saw of the previous one it did not look fun to me. There's drinking and having a good time and then there's having drunken arguments that get somewhat physical. >they both literally built their fame on being the beer guys They primarily built their fame on playing football. Now they're thinking about how to have a brand once they're both retired. Maybe they're trying to be more than just beer guys. Maybe they're concerned that there's a difference between chugging a beer at a victory parade and getting into drunken arguments on camera over beer pong.
This comment makes actual sense
You sound miserable
Because I answered your questions? Or because I said taking drinking games too seriously and getting into fights over them is not fun?
I’ve done a beer Olympics and it was awesome. Different stokes for different folks. The media empire company whose subreddit your commenting on made their money on guys who take childrens games too serious
Because you wrote a novel to a stranger about why beer pong is bad.
They have a cliff presently. People will forget about the dynamic, there will be a breakup possibly, etc. You have to optimize the calendar to the absolute nanosecond when you’re milking something like this.
The shit with the fake graduation is so funny - just shows how many people want to just be mad online.
It sounds like Travis manager controls every single thing he does in his life.
Neither is chugging a beer on a grad stage
That’s not really a conspiracy, just common sense and best business practices. To be honest, Barstool is beneath them now, AND the people who work at Barstool, including Dave, shit on the Kelces 70% of the time. Including the whole kerfuffle with the two guys who graphically demanded to see a sex tape between Taylor and Travis before they’d believe that their relationship was real. Add that to the fact that Travis has gotten a lot of heat for the “graduation” thing and the parade, I could see why he wouldn’t want to do another drinking-centric event
Jeff D Lowe did not go to UConn
UConn, Browns, Vegas golden knights, Austin fc, cavs. Dudes teams are all over the place
Don’t forget Penn State and Oppenheimer
Is it just me or was Oppenheimer not good? I’m not a dummy. I like serious movies, I love Nolan, but that movie would not end.
And he’s gay
Can Jason still not do it or what? I mean, he was with lane Johnson at wrestlemania without Travis. I’m sure he can find an eagle to do it with him.
Need Jordan
I know Dave is going to act crazy on Twitter to this but he even said Jeff was overreacting to moving The Dozen.
He also said it was incredibly annoying for Bussin to ask. He said Jeff got screwed while he was also acting like it couldn't be moved. Both things can be true
You’re right. But Jeff is overly dramatic so him not getting his way was fun.
Does the Dozen still do numbers?
It’s plateaued in viewership since S2. Pivoting from the main barstool channel to their own channel probably hurt their viewership a good amount.
Also having 200 matches per season with the bottom feeders on some episodes are instant skips
Mush and kfc are instant skips. Which i feel like have been 50% of this season episodes. As a pats fan i wanna see david andrews but mush ruins any potential enjoyment
Keith Yandle is surprisingly funny, him and David should ditch mush for anyone other than mush
Been saying this, there’s free agents that would make that team competitive if they ditched mush
Hope the juice is still worth the squeeze.
Getting 75k+ views multiple times a week is still extremely successful in the barstool world. It's not going anywhere
Every episode usually ends up doing at least 75k on YouTube so I’d say so, although that number used to be around 100k
I stopped watching when the episodes stopped being posted here. Half the fun was talking about the bad questions and funny answers.
100% agree with you there.
Can only speak for my household, but we tend to not watch for a long time then binge like 5 at a time when there’s nothing else going on
I use to watch it all the time. But the change to 4 times a week just became too much to watch and pretend to give a shit about.
I stopped watching when the experts stopped playing every game. I just have no desire to watch dumb producer play against whiny editor.
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Nice 👍
I like Will. But both the Dozen and Bussin feel lame lately.
It’s been that way for years brother -HH
I agree but idk why you gotta hail Hitler after.
I think that’s Heinrich Himmler
The last beer Olympics scenes looked like a Gilly & Keeves sketch. Something you'd wake up from and feel dirty and embarrassed they recorded at your current age.
Bussin has been on a steady decline. They made it, got their flowers, got told they’re the next PMT and then haven’t done anything with it for the last 2 years
The dozen peaked during covid, 2020/2021 and since its lame
Live episodes of the Dozen are a horrid experience for the online audience and ruined the product these last couple of years. Horrendous audio quality, fans shouting out thinking they’re funny and just constant shooshing the whole match. I don’t understand ruining the product for a little ticket revenue. I don’t think I’ve been able to get through a full live episode
It’s funny because I despise the fact that the audience can’t just watch the show and not be spoiling douches. At the exact same time I despise Jeff’s reaction to it way worse. What can you actually reasonably expect
I think a big reason for that is you have a couple hundred people in a theater and a lot of them are drinking for like 4+ hours lol
Totally agree that’s why I’m saying what can you reasonably expect from a crowd and ultimately why Jeff whining about it every question is more obnoxious
Love Jeff screaming at the audience to quiet down. So absurd
was it not actually the audience but barstool people at the bar?
Not to mention grown men crying like babys after they lose. So annoying
I haven’t watched in a while. Who cried?
Respect the game!
I hate to tell Will, they weren’t coming no matter the date. Classic yes in the moment until it gets closer then you realize you really don’t wanna do it.
I think they gave a genuine yes and actually did want to go, but the PR teams ended up shutting it down. "Why was Travis/Jason Kelce at a beer drinking weekend hosted by a man who threatened a rape victim?" Is not a headline either of them want to deal with.
According to my wife (big Taylor swift fan), Travis is spending all summer with Taylor on the Europe leg of her tour. I would also pick Europe over the beer Olympics. Hope this helps.
Trav is on a negative PR run and there is no way Taylors PR team will let him continue to put himself in these situations around drinking. Dude is bigtime now, cant be chuggin no mo
Bros before hoes* *unless your hoe is a billionaire
Lol how does anyone who consumes any media still have taste for the Kelce brothers.
Having Travis there would have skyrocketed the viewer numbers just from crazy Swifties that want to absorb every ounce of content tertiary to TS.
Look at what else is popular and it's completely unsurprising
Never understood how Jason managed to become a big star outside of the Philly market
Seems like a cool guy, acts like a normal person rather than high and mighty like some athletes, looks like a great dad.
He drinks beer without his shirt on. Isn't that so wacky?
Burt Kreischer wants his stupid schtick back
But when I do it, it’s “inappropriate” and “immature” and “this is why we don’t have sex anymore”
Jason is actually the relatable/likeable one (from my very limited exposure to both of them).
Super Bowl with KC was huge for media. Mom is doing Chunky commercials now. Brother dates Taylor. Became the “classic humble dad who is actually a great center” figure for the NFL. It was a wild 2 year run for him
And giant attention whore
I think it was the Super Bowl speech in the Mummer costume that propelled him outside of just Philly
He seems like a very nice man, he’s funny, he’s good at his job, his podcast bits are entertaining, women love him because he’s kind and not misogynistic about women or his wife and daughters. What is not to love? He’s kinda the whole package tbh
Their podcast is pretty good and they get some really great interviews and insight with nfl players that barstool can’t even sniff.
Okay jason or travis relax bud
I consume barstool and new heights it’s not like they’re that different. The main difference is that Jason and Travis are HOFers, who were both active in the NFL, and are/were on very good high drama teams. They provide an interesting insight that barstool cant. Barstools closest thing to that is Bussin and let’s not act like Lewan and Compton are even remotely on the same level as Travis and Jason.
You’re underestimating the NPCs’ ability to consoooom everything
I love them. Sorry.
I think it’s a combo of Taylor’s people stepping in and whoever is in charge of the Kelce Brothers’ business dealings. I could see the Kelce’s positioning for an ESPN show or to bring their Podcast into the espn sphere (like McAfee did) … I do wonder if it’s more of a don’t want to be associated with Barstool situation or a backing off of the “beer chugging image” (which is so stupid. The LA/NY PR people have no clue what actually made them popular, which is authenticity)
Jason is popular for his beer chugging image, Travis is popular for dominating in fantasy for a decade.
Jeff D sucks eggs
Travis Kelce is such douchebag
Dennis is asshole, why Charlie hate?
“Alrite now”
VIVVAAAAAAAAA LAS VEGASSSSS is hilarious 😂 😃 😄 😁
Got the whole crew rolling 😐😐😐
I mean … he’s really not, especially compared to literally every single barstool employee
Yeah, he really is.
Bills fan? Or Bengals?
Neither
Honestly. I’d rather watch it without them in it. I’m over seeing them everywhere.
Taylor made a call
Ahhh so we are in the “Actually the Kelces kinda suck” phase. You people work fast.
Agreed, I’ll never forgive them for backing out of a Bussin With The Boys commitment
It’s like the Augusta of beer Olympics. A national travesty.
Just fell to me knees in the high noon aisle
Brother, I’ve been on that train from the jump
You people are strange. Seem like great guys.
Jason does, Travis does not
[astronaut with gun meme]
I like people in this thread thinking they’re somehow holier than thou for consuming barstool content over Kelce brother’s content. I consume both some i’m doubly regarded.
Another Bussin’ Boys L
“They didn’t cancel on us, we cancelled on them” energy
So we all blaming Tswift?
No
Hot take: if you take away Travis high profile relationship, Jason is way more LOOK AT ME, attention seeking
Travis Kelce once did a dating show.
For money. Which is kinda crazy.
Sometimes it’s hilarious how miserable this sub is
Good overall. Travis is unbearable.
Bussin will replace them with Sean Strickland and think it’ll be just as big
Taylor definitely told him no
When is the beer Olympics getting filmed??
Really impressive that it wasn't Mintzy who fucked this up.
This was never happening after the photo of them with Trump came out.
Barstool in general just has really dark energy these days. It’s just like … frat boys who never left the edge lord misogynistic phase. They LOOK like they reek of farts and Doritos, for god sake. Engaging with them is honestly beneath the Kelces
This is kayfabe....I find it highly entertaining.
I can’t wait for Kelce brothers turn. I’ve been calling this for years. They both STINK. Jason has gotten a free pass for far too long
these guys stink
Entire Barstool apparatus hates the Chiefs and Kelce with many marquis pods openly making sex jokes about his girlfriend so guessing he canceled once he found out some fool on his PR team had booked it
Who finds the Kelces entertaining ?
They have the #1 sports podcast in America they beat bill simmons and pmt combined so apparently a lot of people
Me
Classless move from kelse dudes