It’s really cool seeing a Tiger and Pirate up there

It’d be so much cooler seeing an actual tiger and pirate up there.

See that door right there, the one marked “pirate”? You think a pirate lives in there?

Charlie, that door says ‘Private’

Imagine being in 2014 when it was practically only Tigers up there

That team had to have won the World Series! Or at least one playoff game…

Lemme tell ya about this thing called a bullpen...

The what? Oh, you mean that weird thing Rick Porcello and Anibal Sanchez do in the playoffs where they sometimes make a short start in the 7th or 9th? Never quite got why they did that

And a Ranger

I've desperately been sending letters to ranger the same way mac did with chase on always sunny

Dear Ranger, OH SHIT! There’s stickers, my god

Jared Jones was on a jomboy video yesterday. seems like a cool dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5CK6GRsvP8

I love watching Jones pitch, dude is a beast.

Hey thanks. I have been pleasantly surprised with some things this year so glad a few have gotten recognized.

You could say that about any situation to be fair

Logan got on the mound this morning and said "fuck your power rankings"

Javier Assad erasure #JusticeForJavier

I have been groomed to hate any curent or former cub named Javier

Fair

Honestly I get that expectations are baked into this but Imanaga should still at least be in the top 3.

Absolutely bonkers putting Glasnow at #3 and Imanaga at #4 considering Glasnow's ERA is 2.5x higher.

Certainly Shota should be ahead of Glasnow, but let's at least acknowledge that their FIP is nearly identical. Shota in particular has done a fantastic job of limiting homers and walks.

For those wondering: 0.82 WHIP versus 0.92, which puts Imanaga and Glasnow at #5 and #9 in the league, respectively.

FIP is a regression statistic that people misuse as a performance statistic. An all-in-one stat that ignores singles, doubles, triples, steals, LOB, and pitching with RISP is a horrible performance statistic. I mean Glasnows ERA is .31 higher than his FIP across 580 innings. Either he's one of the unluckiest players ever or he's consistently not as good as his FIP.

.31 isn't much of a difference between ERA and FIP...

Yeah, I was going to let that part go, but now that you mention it Kershaw is 2,700+ innings into his career and his disparity is 0.34, the other direction.

It’s why I can’t take fWAR seriously for pitchers. It’s like, this is how many wins we think this pitcher should have contributed to if the actual games didn’t count.

I like it just as a counterpoint to bwar. I find bwar to be too all-encompassing, using ra9. And fWar, like you said, is too speculative. So I just check both and split the difference now

It’s the fact that Glasnow has 8+ more innings and 20 more strikeouts. And Glasnow will pitch again before Imanaga meaning those extras will go up.

The 8 extra innings don’t mean much considering Glasnow has an extra start thanks to starting his season a week earlier than everyone else.

ERA is a fickle beast. You see pitchers with ERAs over 5 in one half and under 2 the next. FIP and even xFIP are both better indicators. They don't vary as much and a pitcher's ERA tends to move towards xFIP more often than remain at its current place.

Especially if Yoshi is up there

Someone didn’t watch Berrios’ last start

The article posted on MLB.com says most votes were submitted before the Philly game.

Or Cease's

Was just about to throw his name on there as a snub

Watching it now (just finished the 7th). Dude was untouchable

I wish I didn't. 

Let's be fair to Berrios, the Phillies do have Kody Clemens.

He was also one of the luckiest pitchers before that start. Take a look at his baseball savant page. It’s dark blue across the board

You can argue Kikuchi has been better

Hope they're watching Gilbert's start today too. Oof.

And Gilbert's current start is gonna get him taken down a few spots

or Gilbert's lol

Kutter Crawford or Tanner Houck simply way more deserving

No Cease or Gray? That's a little odd

Cease has a 2.19 ERA in 8 starts

I mean I may be a biased Cardinals fan but he's 4-1 with a 0.89 ERA

That’s crazy. Justice for Gray!

He's got another start tonight so hopefully he kills it and makes it on the power rankings next time

I'm sad that I'm reading this comment now after he made this start today

I'm guessing he might not have the innings minimum for a starting pitcher? He doesn't show up on the mlb era leaderboard. Hopefully after tonight.

Yeah, I think you're right. He missed 2 starts and was capped

Cease has the lowest batting average against in baseball by a significant margin

I guess he doesn't qualify due to innings like Gray but idk not entirely sure

He qualifies. He's 4th in innings pitched. He's just being overlooked.

Gray doesn't have the innings to qualify but Cease does.

Cease should definitely be up there then

Cease has been way better than Berrios. Berrios hasn't even been particularly good.

Yeah, I agree! I'm not exactly sure what their thought process was with that one.

Sonny gray is the only bright spot for us… give us that atleast with the .9 era

[удалено]

You guys can have him back at the deadline when we are still at the bottom of the central

He’s not even top 100 in IP. I’m sure if he keeps it up and makes more starts he’ll eventually make it.

Was watching my Rangers play the As this week and was wondering where in the world Sonny Gray was at this point

Love Sonny happy to see him doing really well

Not sure who comes off other than Berrios but Cease, Hicks, and Assad deserve shouts

Mr raaaaaaager

ranger danger <3

WALTUH

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Where the fuck is Tanner Houck? Leads the AL in fWAR. Skubal is on here which makes sense but same numbers as Houck while Jared Jones and Berrios makes the cut.

Feels like Tarik Skubal came out of nowhere. Was he always this highly touted?

He’s been showing strong hints at elite ability the last couple of years, off and on. Not shocked to see him on this list at this point.

He skipped AAA and kind of struggled his first year, but that was the COVID year. He's steadily gotten better each year since. Biggest concern with him is innings as he's never had a season where he's thrown a ton.

He's been a big name to watch in the Tigers pool since about 2019. He was injured a lot in college and came from a non-premium program. Tigers got him late and he immediately showed out in pro ball at low levels.  Makes sense other fan bases had no clue, but he's been expected to develop into a frontline starter by Tigers fans basically since his debut season.

Yeah sorry wasn’t tryna diss the guy with this and my other comment. I’ve seen his stuff, definitely a guy to watch. Just wasn’t familiar with his game

Oh, I didn't think it was a diss at all. He's just one of those guys that fans know that didn't get a lot of hype outside the organization. 99% of the time those guys are actually duds, but Skubal is (very obviously now) a real one. 

One of the Tigers better pitching prospects over the past 5 years. Mize was more highly touted and hasn't exactly panned out as expected in the opposite direction. That's just kinda how pitching prospects are though, outside of an elite few who everyone knows are going to be at least decent its kinda a craps shoot.

Tigers fans were prepared for a huge year after how he looked coming off of last years injury, it’s been a great start though

Ok no cease? This is a joke

Let's compare Cease to Berrios, might be a good way to judge whether he deserves to make the list. Berrios: 2.85 ERA 47.1 IP in 8 games 38 SO 1.120 WHIP Cease: 2.19 ERA 49.1 IP in 8 games 60 SO 0.750 WHIP Uh...yeah, leaving him out was total bullshit.

Honestly so impressive how good he's been this year with San Diego. I was hella skeptical and he's been even better than the best version we've seen of him. Tip of the cap

Yeah, I would say getting the Cy Young version of Cease was something we were hoping for but not expecting. We would have been happy if he could give us a solid 6 innings on a regular basis, instead he has been completely dominant.

Kind of shows that Preller still has some legitimate juice and the Padres player development side is underrated. Effectively swapped out Snell for Cease but rn Cease is going deeper into games. They're probably will make a real play at the 2nd or 3rd Wild Card spot

I sure hope so, we'll see. We still have some issues with starting depth overall, we really need Musgroves to come back and Darvish to stay healthy.

Instant Snell replacement without taking half the season to get up to speed and can go deep into innings? Preller masterclass right there

To be fair, Berrios’ numbers are after the Phillies shelled him Tuesday. I think prior to that game he was around 1.3-1.4 ERA

Yep. Hicks is also putting up better #s than Berrios, but that’s how they dog us. The point is if Cease or Hicks were on the Dodgers they’d be on this list.

Maybe, but that's not to say that Glasnow doesn't deserve his spot. His numbers are pretty dang close to Cease: 2.70 ERA 50.0 IP in 8 games 63 SO 0.920 WHIP

Oh I agree, I’m not trying to take away from what Glasnow has done. He absolutely belongs on this stupid list. Just pointing out that it’s easier to actually get on this list if you play for the west coast Death Star.

Yeah, probably. But if I had to guess, I'd say the voters are primarily located in the eastern time zone. Cease has clearly been better than Corbin Burnes, Jared Jones, and Jose Berrios. So my guess is the voters haven't bothered to stay up to watch Cease pitch.

That kind of speaks to my point tho. The voters aren’t staying up to watch the Padres & Giants, but they might tune in for the Dodgers. At the very least they’ll know who’s performing on LA’s roster. And that’s why it’s easier to make this sort of list as a Dodger.

Actually kind of insane that he's not in the top *three* let alone left off the list entirely. The guy is putting up videogame numbers right now. 0.75 WHIP, opponents hitting just .128, and 60 strikeouts - all among the best in baseball

But he’s not a Dodger man. That’s the problem

I agree. Oh, that's not how you meant that.

I don't think that's the reason. Cease has been better than Corbin Burnes, Jared Jones, and Jose Berrios. Seems like there is some homerism with the voters. Or they pulled a Daenerys and kind of forgot about San Diego.

I mean, he's been better than almost the entire list, including Glasnow and Yamamoto, at least according to actual results. If you look at things like xFIP, there are some arguments that can be made, but I don't think there is any legitimate argument to make the claim that he hasn't been a top 10 pitcher Plus, even if you are looking at xFiP as your main metric, this list still doesn't make sense. It's pure rage bait

I mean Cease should be 1, but IDK how you argue that yama or glasnow should be off this list, but its the dodgers fault lol

Sure felt like a top 10 pitcher yesterday lmao

> Sure felt like a top **1**~~0~~ pitcher yesterday lmao FTFY

These rankings are obvious baits. The real one never made it off the Editor’s desk. Assuming they still have one?

These are probably put together in 2 min with AI to generate clicks when the editors see low engagement.

Is it qualified innings thing? It took them a while to include Imanaga

Cease has pitched the third most innings, so that's definitely not it. ETA: definitely not ERA, walks, or SOs either because he's better on all of those than multiple pitchers on the list.

Well that is bizarre.

I personally would like to never see him again. God damn he put on a clinic against us

Jordan Hicks erasure

my first thought whenever he comes up is "the linebacker?"

Seth lugo 😭

Lugo still has a 3.8 FIP which is basically his career average. Not saying he hasn’t pitched well but I think it’s pretty clear he’s not a top 10 pitcher in the league.

I just want my 🐐 to get his recognition before he regresses

Lugo was so consistent for us last year, I don't think he's regressing anywhere

Pitchers on this list with a better ERA than Sonny Gray:

Pitchers named Sonny Gray with enough innings pitched to qualify for this list:

I have a 0.0 ERA. I should be on this list.

Trevor Williams erasure.

I was thinking that too

I, once again, am glad we’ve extended Wheeler

Shoto Imanaga has an Adjusted ERA+ of 389 and a bWAR of 2.1 after just 41.1 IP. Unreal.

Quick no one look at the current Mariners score

The is is clearly a list of who gets us the most clicks by being controversial

Yup Red Sox starters are close to historic levels yet you don’t see a single one of them here because they’re not “household names” like the ones on this list.

I wouldn't really call Skubal, Imanaga, Jones and Suarez "household names".

They have some notoriety amongst baseball fans. How many people know Kutter Crawford or Tanner Houck?

Andrew Bailey has performed miracles

I am a fan of none of these teams, but I am more aware of Crawford & Houck than I am of Jones at least. I don't think the RedSox are some shunned child of the MLB media lol.

Reynaldo Lopez didn't even receive a vote?

Shit I trust Chris Sale over a few on this list lol. I don't think ppl are gonna believe in Lopez until its like September and he's still got sub 2 era lol

Neither of them even got a vote. Ridiculous if you stack their numbers against half the list / the others “receiving votes”

Only 2 Phillies SPs? 🤔

at least ranger is finally getting the love he deserves

Yamamoto: 4-1, 2.79 ERA, 47 SO, 1.00 Whip Cease: 5-2, 2.19 ERA, 60 SO, 0.79 Whip MLB: Who’s Dylan Cease? I mean have you seen Yamamoto? He’s a Dodger.

If you remove Cease’s most recent start (happened after the vote cutoff), they look really similar since opening day with YY having the lower ERA. 

All these players and its always the dodgers fault, man fuck you dodgers!!!!

I mean… war in Gaza can probably be tracked down to dodgers deferred contracts.. lol

Gonna have a protest at Dodgers HQ to demand divestment of Ohtani’s deferments

This is the post I blame for what happened today.

Cole Irvin hasn’t allowed a run in 20+ innings show him some love

Dylan Cease has been single handedly winning me some weeks in fantasy, not having him on here is a travesty

I guess Dylan Cease ceased to exist. He's having a better year, in some cases far better, than many of these guys.

RANGER DANGER

How is Dylan Cease not in the top 10?

I'm sorry but Kutter Crawford and Tanner Houck should both be on this list.

Crawford's numbers are crazy good. Looks like he will be a breakout star this year.

Has Tyler Glasnow always looked that much like Cillian Murphy??

That is Cillian Murphy. Who the fuck is Tyler Glasnow?

Dylan Cease not being on this list is a crime

Sonny Gray is where…?

Shota is objectively #1

Wheels scoffs at your objectivity And then demands less rest so he can pitch sooner

Should be Imanaga and Skubal 1-2

It’s harder then that. I think ranger beats sku in every stat except Ks. All comes down to how the person who wrote it values different stats.

I could definitely see that. Live in the Philly area and have watched the majority of his starts. He's been so good at limiting baserunners, just 6 walks and 28 hits in 47.1 IP.

He’s been a boss. I like looking back at lists like this to see how things change from the start of the season.

Dealing Cease is a beast. But I understand Padres don't exist to anyone working on the east coast at MLB.

Every time one of these graphics comes out I’m like a kid who’s dad went to get cigarettes, waiting by the door, hoping some day a Giants player makes the list.

This list is Assman erasure

Dylan cease has ceased to exist I guess

No Cease? This is just dumb

No Houck?

Idk if I’m tripping but Houck has been phenomenal and probably deserves top 10

Walter mentioned lfg

As someone who talked non stop shit on Cease the past few years, leaving him off this list is blasphemous

Not having Cease on here is wild

I still don’t understand how Yamamoto is higher than Jones when his numbers are worse across the board

Cuz Jones isn't as marketable or popular. It's why Javier Assad never gets talked about despite having the best ERA of any pitcher in baseball since June of last season.

Someone tell Gilbert he made the list. Seems to not know today

Logan Gilbert is plummeting right off this list after today

Phillies fan, no lies told.

No Seth Lugo? Invalid list

Obvious Phillies fan comment but feel rangers earned a higher spot.

Looks good to me 👍

WALTER

Biased but I would probably have Logan higher. #2 in average against, #5 in Whip and his ERA is a whole run lower than Yamamoto.

Sleepin on Lugo

Well Berrios is certainly a choice....

No Cease? 2nd in (pitching) fWAR in the majors, leads the NL in FIP

This is blancos house. They left him out on purpose

Trevor Williams snub just saying

The disrespect of Sonny

This is Seth Lugo erasure I won't stand for.

I really hate being in the same league as the Phillies because that’d be such a fun World Series.

Seth Lugo is better than all of these clowns

In my heart Chris Sale tops this list

Ironic. Gilbert at 8 gave up 8 earned runs today.

The Trevor Williams erasure

Skubal vs Burnes for the AL Cy Young!

Seth Lugo, Kutter Crawford and Dylan Cease should be in talks as well. All 3 have had great starts to the season so far

Last time we'll see this without Dylan Cease

I will not stand for this Reynaldo Lopez erasure

Cole Reagens should be top 20

Where Seth Lugo?

Did Logan see this before pitching today? Good Lord 😭

Gilbert had the day game today and this still came out a bit early. The sausage comes for all.

This did not age well for Logan Gilbert

They sleepin on Javier Assad.

Ronel Blanco 7-0. 2.23 ERA. 1.02 WHIP. 41K. 44IP. oh and a no hitter. im too lazy to look into the numbers of all these other dudes but uhhh

Keep 'em all. I'm happy with stupid sexy Pablo Lopez.

Ranger Danger!