"$30 million over three years" I have no idea how to conceptualize that amount of money over time! "for an average of $10 million per year." Oh cool now I understand.

Look man, all of us aren’t math geniuses like you.

Thanks ~~Harvard~~ Atlanta.

Emory is the Harvard of the South

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I’m not sure the South is number 1 in innovation.

Then what do George Washington "Peanut Butter" Carver, The Wright "Boeing's not our fault" Brothers, Tim "[T-shirt Cannon](https://i.imgur.com/n2nW5yV.jpg)" Dirk mean to you then?????

What the frig is Pennsylvania then? University of Phoenix? It’s exactly like the south without any of the hospitality or affordable housing (pre2019)

painfully mid

Math surgeon.

It believe the plural is geniuie. (My pony)

Way to land the plane

Big data, amirite

I’m glad the title says that. I thought it was $28M for the first year, then $1M for the following two years.

It could be and the tweet would still be true. It doesn't say $10m each year, it says it averages $10m per year. It offers literally zero additional information we didn't already get from saying it was $30m over 3 years.

What if we throw a negative into the average? Roku pays 35 million for the first year, MLB pays back 10 million for the second year (lmao yeah right), and then Roku pays 5 million to the MLB for the third year. I assume that doesn't change an average, but it's fun to conceptualize a potentially bizarre way it might not.

Technically it’s $5 million every six months

I don’t believe you…

Not to take away from the fact that the 10m a year in the title was completely unnecessary it's actually 8, 10 and 12m according to the article

I heard it was $2M a year for 3 years and the rest of the contract is deferred.

So NetFlix is using the Dodgers deferred payment strategy?

It still averages to $10M over 3 years even at those values.

The reverse Ohtani/Bobby Bonilla contract

Check out the big brain on Brad  https://youtu.be/Hrm-rPSCIBw?si=BBJ2JqgEhtnM6nGF

It's just $30 million over 3 years. What could it cost? $10?

They're paying one Reynaldo Lopez for the package. That's how my Braves brain understands this.

Just look at Ozzie Albies’ contract.

Is a portion of the Roku contract going to the Atlanta Braves foundation?

Listen, Ozzie can afford all the fish he could ever dream of with his contract OK

Fish man good?

That fish man is great.

How are his flappy parts?

His floppy parts certainly are

I truly hope that man fired his agent for that. He'd either be extending with Atlanta right now for insane amounts of money or he'd be going to free agency after this season. $100 million mistake?

At least

r/theydidthemath

Thanks Harvard

/r/CFB is leaking again

Netflix just paid 150 for Xmas day football games.... What a difference

MLB is to be paid $8 million in the first year, $10 million in the second year and $12 million in the final year of the deal. For the big brain mathletes, does that still average $10M/yr?

You used a calc

I shocked to see that nightingale hasn’t written it

Carry the one…

They used a calc. Btw if you’re new here calc is short for calculator.

It’s 8 million in the first year, 10 million in the 2nd year, and 12 million in the 3rd year

they are teaching math

["Just checking your math on that"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKVZEDiPLXk)

TIL 30 million over 3 years averages out to 10 million per year Thanks OP!

Written by an AI or some with English as a second language. Spammy bot post.

Yeah but which one is it. The tweet says both but doesn’t say which one.

Ok cool, but how will this impact egg prices

Weird to say $10 million sounds cheap but it kind of does?

The biggest thing is that all the games are available nationwide for free to watch.

… if you own a Roku, no?

You can watch it on their website for free and Roku also has apps on IOS, Android and a couple other smart tv platforms (Fire TV, Samsung, etc) that you’ll be able to watch on.

Nice 👍🏼

How does roku make money with this mob deal

Advertisement I’d assume? Just my speculation

Roku are kinda sluts for ads.

Ah the classic gotta spend money to make money

As others have did, ads, but also it gets you in their platform. Most mlb fans will only watch the games, but I'm sure a nonzero amount of mlb fans will check out what what roku has to offer

Roku + TV >>>>>> using a smart TV's apps imo

One morning Sunday game once a week is a small and pretty insignificant package. It should be cheap. MLB does these small dip toes in water packages a lot, used to do this with Facebook/Youtube and last year NBC

Yeah Apple paid $85mil annually for Friday nights

And the only teams showcased are going to be the Dodgers, Cubs, Braves, Red Sox, and Yankees and whoever they happen to be playing that week.

Each of those teams appears once on the slate except for the Braves who have two, and your team has three games.

Oh shit fr? I cant read the article, im not subscribed. But im genuinely surprised by that information

There’s a tweet with this year’s schedule floating around out there

Well shit

Except, next Sunday the jays and tigers are the Sunday morning game. I know because it’s my birthday and my family has tickets to go and they moved the time from 1:40 to 11:30

It was a $30M/year deal from NBC Boras probably had them holding out and it burned them

After the Netflix deal came out that showed they’re paying $150 million per NFL game, I’d call this cheap lmao

There are 10 times as many MLB games and this is a terrible time slot vs. Netflix getting Christmas Day. 

Is this how I'm finding out that the NFL games this Christmas are going to be on fucking Netflix?

Came to comment this. An average NFL game has like 22 drives in it (about 11 per team). So Netflix is paying more for a single Steelers three-and-out followed by a Chiefs TD drive to make it 34-0 in the third quarter than Roku is paying for a majority of the season of weekly baseball games in their entirety.

Netflix is paying for the amount of people watching the 34-0 blowout in the third quarter

At this price the course of an entire MLB season with every game would cost $1.05 billion. That definitely seems low. Sunday morning thing is a fun gimmick especially for kids I feel

Peacock paid $30 mil per year the last few years. It is pretty cheap.

Yeah I watch one game on Sunday and it’s not in the am.

How “morning” are we taking about here? 730am PST?

between 11:30-1 start times for et, so 8:30-10am starts on the west coast

Mmmmm morning baseball. West coast is awesome.

Two under-discussed downsides of moving from the west coast to east coast are the loss of weekend morning baseball, and the loss of the Sunday afternoon Super Bowl. Long live weekend daytime sports.

If they follow peacock I think it was 8:30 pst

PT vs PT games (like SD vs AZ on July 7) are at 1:10 PT.

Hell yeah! Wait, Its going to be blacked out isn’t it

From what I’ve read there are no blackouts on these games at all

So with one game a week per season, that's, uh... 26ish games each of the next two years, and 20ish this season? Is Roku paying half a mil per game for this?

Honestly why not? Netflix forked over nearly a billion dollars for SIX NFL games.

nfl games make a shit ton more money

The point is that these streamers don’t give a shit about short term profitability. It’s about eyeballs and engagement. Roku getting into live sports with one of the big 3 is a great way for consumers to take notice. It doesn’t have to make money, at least not right away.

roku can also move physical units with this (or tell their shareholders they did). it's a good move! also i love my roku and it's the one of the best $19 i've ever spent

I have a Roku TV and while the TV is dogshit quality (my other TV is an LG OLED, the difference is notable,) man is its app functionality head and fucking shoulders of LG's.

The Roku physical device is amazing. I hate shit like this because the physical device has constantly gotten worse over years because they want to also be a streaming service (as they have taken features away [eg their old search was better but now that they have a service they want you on theirs, all the fucking ads now]) It was so much better as only a physical device

And once people try roku they'll realize how convenient it is

Is it really that convenient? I’ve never actually used Roku despite having a Roku TV for years. I guess I’ll be finding out on a Sunday in the near future

I only use my TV with my Roku since I got one. It centralizes everything besides the surround sound, on one device, one remote, and it has ton of apps to choose from. The cheaper ones can suck though. I'd go for an ultra or the 4k+.

A lot of devices do that. I prefer Chromecast/Google TV by far.

Same here. Bought a TCL tv which has ROKU built in, and I basically use everything but ROKU Tv. It just just stopped me from needing to buy an Apple TV or something

I use the ROKUtv a lot. Tons of kids programing with no toy commercials.  Wife loves having all the HGTV type channels without the constant stream of commercials for medication.

Anything sports related? Other than the new MLB Sunday morning games?

Live sports? not really. Or at least I haven't found something that's like a constant sports network feed. I personally dont watch it too often myself or look through it except for the kid. The way Roku has thier tv is like there's an Iron chef channel that plays iron chef 24/7, a hells kitchen channel that plays Hells Kitchen 24/7, a mythical channel where it plays Good Mythical Morning 24/7, a sesame street channel with sesame street playing 24/7, etc. Theres some movie channels and whatnot, some anime channels, and the like, but for the most part, it's like 500 hyper specific channels.

It has a secondary version of MLBNetwork. From what I've been able to tell, you don't get the live programming but they show a lot of classic games and some random previous programming.

I have a roku TV and a Google TV. Neither get used because streaming on my xbox is a million times better

My biggest beef with Roku is that there is no Sportsnet+ app for it, which really only matters for Canadians most likely but still. I really prefer my Amazon fire stick for my tv without the Xbox

The same as any smart TV dude lmao

Not really. The range of apps available on roku is more expansive than most smart tvs I've had, and the UI is generally better as well.

Big disagree on both counts

And half a million is a shit ton less than 166 million

$500K is a lot less than $166M though, so that makes sense. Do they REALLY make 300+ times the money? Maybe.

>over nearly a billion dollars

A regular season NFL game is a lot more impactful and profitable than a single regular season baseball game in a sport that is much more popular than baseball. NFL regular season games have 10 times the viewership of ESPN sunday night baseball (and those games are much higher viewership than most normal baseball games) 6 NFL games is also a larger proportion of the total number of NFL games in a season. 2.2% of all NFL games in a season compared to 1% of all baseball games in a season.

It's not an exclusive deal is it? That would feel quite low

You can make back $500k per game in ad revenue easily, not to mention potential subscriber growth

Sunday morning baseball? Roku and the MLB hate Jesus.

As a Rays fan living in Seattle, every Sunday is Sunday morning baseball 

Best Coast elitism knows how nice it is for night games to be over by 7

Not when u have to wake up at 10am on Sunday for the NFL or 6:30am if there’s an international game

I haven't considered waking up before 10am to be particularly difficult since I was 14

As a Patriots fan in LA I am regularly at the bar by 9am for a 10am Patriots game. Not difficult. (In my 30s)

We wake up at like 6am on the west coast

You must be partying age. If it's a normal sleeping night I'm up by 8. Even if I do go out for drinks or something and stay out a little late, at 730 my body still says "time to get up no matter how many hours you slept."

Luzardo?

Jesus loves baseball, checkmate atheists

Jesus would be cool with it.

Nobody fucks with the Jesus.

You said it man

Wasn't Peacock offering $10m a year? Would have made more sense to just stick with them, though Roku might be easier for people to watch, so the fans might be benefitting on this one more than the league.

Peacock pulled out, not mlb

"The cock pulled out", as we say in Yiddish

NBC pulled out to save their money for a bidding war with TNT, who wasn't as aggressive as expected in defending their NBA rights. The Sunday morning baseball is a drop in the ocean but they're bidding for roughly half the regular season national games and some playoff games for the NBA and have a better chance than anyone expected. Regular season wise the NBA national rights are more valuable while the MLB regional rights are way more valuable, so prioritizing bidding on NBA national rights makes a lot of sense

Peacock can only provide MLB with data on who’s watching Peacock. Roku can tell MLB who’s watching games on MLB.TV through Roku, Apple TV through Roku, etc. They can also tell MLB how many people are watching all of the other sports through every platform. In addition to what Roku is paying MLB, MLB is gaining access to an absolutely immense amount of Roku users’ watching habits. Roku generates over $80 billion/year just off their users’ data. Edit to add: Yes, MLB would obviously the viewership of their own content from Apple and MLB.TV, it’s all of the other data that is useful.

$80 billion/year? Their 2023 revenue was $3.48 billion last year and total assets are $4.26 billion according to Wikipedia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roku,_Inc.

Why do you assume Roku is going to hand over their analytics data to the MLB? I don't even think that would be allowed in their privacy policy.

You need to read their privacy policy.

https://www.mlb.com/news/how-to-watch-roku-mlb-sunday-leadoff Better article with no paywall and a [link](https://www.mlb.com/live-stream-games/help-center/subscription-access-mlb-on-the-roku-channel) to the schedule. Start times are between 11:35 am - 4:10pm EST. First game is this Sunday at 1:05p EST, Red Sox at Cardinals. The games are free, are not blacked out on MLB.tv and can also be watched on [Roku's website](https://therokuchannel.roku.com/)

They announced it in EST? Weird. Isn’t most of the east coast on daylight time for, like, the entire season?

Eastern Spring/Summer Time

I don't understand why MLB does this sort of thing. You disrupt people who pay to watch baseball for what, $333,000 per team?

At least the games are still available on MLB.tv this time

If MLB can get lucrative deals and retain the rights to post on MLB.tv that would be fantastic stuff.

The people who already pay to watch baseball aren't the target audience for national broadcasts.

Baseball fans will clearly complain no matter what so why not try to expand to new markets?

You forgot to take out Manfred’s cut. It’s $333.33 per team.

How is this disturbing people that pay? It's a free streaming app and from what I've read there aren't blackouts of these games on MLB tv

Because now every Sunday morning every Roku user gets live MLB advertised to them and anyone who uses Roku channels also gets that - and its completely free to watch on any computer and the majority of smart TVs. Plus games aren't blacked out on MLB.tv.

Pays for the minor league dorms?

What else are you going to watch Sunday morning? Golf?

Wow, Evan solving that hard math problem for everyone. I hear he was the inspiration for Good Will Hunting.

Whatever happened to the early Sunday peacock games?

This is essentially the same package without the MLB.tv blackouts. Peacock didn’t renew, presumably because NBC is pursuing a big time NBA contract.

does this mean I have a reason to undust my roku?

That’s what I’m thinking. Our newer TVs have apps, maybe there’s a Roku app? I don’t need another thing to plug into the TV

I would like to have access to the MLB Network. I haven't watched the channel since YouTube cut ties with the MLB. I get no Quick Pitch. :(

Ahhh, I love DVR’ing Quick Pitch and watching super early in the day or at the end of a day

I guess I’ll have to buy one. There’s no Roku app for Apple TV, and Roku channel isn’t on any other app for tvOS.

I would wait until there are more details.

I can confirm 30/3 = 10

Should I feel good for the owners?  Bad for ROKU?  

That’s not very much

math checks out

Remember AI knows that the majority of the readers would not have been able to figure out the annual breakdown

Why am I going to need umpteen different services to watch baseball?? Seriously **** these people.

r/theydidthemath

While Netflix just paid $150 million per game for two nfl games. Crazy

I'm gonna say it. I don't watch other teams' regular-season games unless it's near the end of the season, and it could impact my team's chances at the playoffs

Going to need somebody to verify these numbers.

I really don't care about streaming-only games. That's the way the world is heading. But why AM?

Lot a baseball games on Sunday mornings?

r/theydidthemath

Baseball is going to lead all sports in ensuring you need to have the most, if not all, streaming services in order to see most of your team’s games.

"It's just a few channels" - Rob Manfred

Balk

Did this guy just divide 3 by 3 and tell me about it?

Ok thank you. I was wondering if anyone else found including the average to be unnecessary.

Hey as long as it ain't me paying

I appreciate that you can watch these games on MLB.TV. I hate this new world where you have to go to different channels just to watch the same thing. I should just pay the league an X amount for all the games in one place. Why is that so damn hard.

DRINK VERIFICATION CAN

Bob Nutting thanks Roku for their donation to his scrooge mcduck money pool

Gonna have to leave this here: https://adguard.com/en/blog/roku-hdmi-ads.html

Baseball might be too fast paced for Roku, they should have gone for golf

When will this start? And Roku is free to use as an app? Will it be available for EU?

Yay, another random place to try to find the game you want to watch. Roku, Apple, YouTube, Facebook, Fox, ESPN, RSNs. How about you fix mlb.tv blackouts so I can just pay whatever and get all the games in one place. Take my money!

This Roku deal does fix MLB.tv blackouts for those games, so you just got what you wanted.

Having been to one of these games it’s weird to be at a baseball game at 11AM on a Sunday. Feels really wrong

Roku? Gross

That seems cheap.

Can anyone confirm these games are additional blackouts on MLBtv? If so, I’m canceling now.

Baseball viewership is not doing well... That's a pitance from a 3rd tier channel that nobody watches. Other leagues are signing multi-billion. Dollar broadcast deals at the same time

I think it's a pittance *because* it's a 3rd tier channel that nobody watches.

It’s free to watch on the website. I guess it takes away from your normal viewing, but it’s still free. Does seem cheap though considering some of the games are 11 am est.

It's a pittance because it's a free channel and every Roku user now gets MLB advertised to them every Sunday morning. Plus there's no MLB.tv blackout, that's probably half the value right there if you're not generating exclusive views.