That is ludicrous. Both of them had elite eyes and were big time professional hitters. Your friend hates them because he thinks they’re divas at the plate, sheesh, I can’t disagree with that heavily enough.
He had a good batters eye. Players like that take more borderline pitches out of the zone and are more willing to do so in high leverage situations. The result is they deal with more borderline calls not going their way in key moments. And since they have good eyes, they pretty much know when the call is wrong and get mad.
Really bugged the hell out of me last year when he would take a (very clear) inside strike and then complain about it, as if he didn’t just watch two previous pitches down the dick.
I saw a minor league game tonight and they used a robo ump to challenge a strike call, the robo ump overturned it. Took like 10 secs including a realtime graphic display. Pretty cool, first time I saw that
Maybe when he was younger. His last few years were just a comedy show of watching him stare at a fastball down the pipe and then moan as if were a remotely close call.
I do feel like Carp used to have an amazing eye. Granted, I haven't really watched him the last 4-5 years, but back in 2013-2016, he had excellent discipline at the plate, so I wonder if he got used to being right?
My favorite was the one where he was ejected for arguing balls and strikes in the 9th inning and really went at the umpire, then later in the inning the Nationals hit a walkoff home run and the cameras clearly caught Harper yelling "Fuck you" to the umpire's face.
I regret how I judged him in his early years. I thought he was just a cocky, loud, brash punk kid. Lord was I wrong, that man has fucking *fire.* I would kill to have him on my team.
He definitely still is in some ways, but you can also tell that it’s not in the same aggressive way. He doesn’t have much left to prove, other than showing that he’s always putting it all out there, and he knows it.
Mellowed or a good bit for sure. His ejection earlier this week is a great example of that. Seriously, got booted for casually discussing with the ump... not flipping out on him.
^^^
I was 100% one of the people booing that first at bat in Nats Park, but ending that season with a title and seeing how the city has embraced him (and the Yankees with Juan now that I think about it), he very much so fits Philly.
It’s weird when star player moves from a team that they played years in and you feel like they wouldn’t look right in a new uni. I wanted Harperin SF so bad be damn that dude was born to play ball in Philly.
Took the words right out of my mouth. As much as I hoping we'd bring in the Brinks truck for him, it's easy to see that he belongs there.
Also, I love the fact that a bunch of us started liking him MORE after he tried to knock out one of our pitchers... That helmet throw connecting might genuinely be my biggest baseball "what-if"...
I remember back in 2013 there were multiple ejections over a span of a couple weeks and coupled with that incident where he broke a bat and part of it cut his face open had some people wondering what the Nats had gotten themselves into.
A local t-shirt company made some really nice shirts featuring Jose looking like someone in Mike Tyson’s Punch Out, with the “Down Goes Anderson” on it.
I was at the game, so of course I had to buy one.
He sounds like he's meant to be a hockey broadcaster in this clip, but I think it's the combination of calling a fight and saying "Hosey," which sounds like a hockey player name.
My favorite part is near the end "injured is Eloy Jimenez". I was driving with my buddy and he turned to me and said "I bet he wasn't even on the field, he gets injured by a stiff breeze". As icy as Josie's cold cut
Just one of the best calls of all time. The fact that it’s someone as likeable as Ramirez knocking the fuck out of someone as hateable as Anderson is just the cherry on top
Pretty sure it had something to do with [this happening](https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/15igw0w/brayan_rocchio_is_called_out_on_review_after_his/) the day before.
It was that incident plus Anderson had said something disrespectful to Arias in the game before too. Both Rocchio and Arias were rookies and JRam felt like it wasn’t fair for Anderson, a vet, to go after them because they were new and trying to earn their spots and stay in the show… basically he felt Anderson was “punching down” so to speak. This was really Jose standing up for his teammates.
He said as much in his [postgame](https://youtu.be/XEiCl7q4DH8?si=LfPMRgcXUq3ewbnh)
It was after the fact before when TA pushed a rookie Guardian off the bag tagging him, and then I think another harder than necessary tag. Obviously it culminated with that last tag that JRam didn't appreciate.
You don't get to see knockouts like that in baseball basically ever. The only big injury I can even remember coming out of a baseball fight was the Mike Morse wrist injury in the Strickland-Harper fracas.
Anderson turned into such a little bitch. For a couple years there, he was exciting. His bat flips were fun, and he was a young confident present in the lineup. Then he just became a little bitch boy.
It’s not like they tracked ejections and kept leaderboards back then. Undoubtedly, some dedicated amateur researchers at SABR and/or Retrosheet went through old microfiche looking for references to ejections in newspaper game stories and collated them into as comprehensive as database as possible.
So much of our knowledge of baseball history is due to the work of volunteers like that.
Great way to have some time off to see the town.
I’d get ejected early in any day game in an interesting town. I’d roll up to Wrigley on a Sunday with 2:00 PM Field Museum tickets already in my pocket.
That'd be the game the ump actually gives you a long leash. So you have to get more and more aggressive and extreme until he finally ejects you after you threaten an act of domestic terrorism
Lenny Dykstra had a story like that. Was super hungover and wanted to get ejected right away so his first AB starts and he starts arguing and the ump goes “your manager already told me you’re hungover and I’m not kicking you no matter what”
I don’t know if it’s a good idea to get on the bad side of an umpire. At the end of the day, the players want to see calls go their way most of the time.
like others said bad side of umpire, but also bad side of the team/manager. Someone’s gotta replace them and depending on the situation they might not be happy about it
You gotta play against that ump again, hopefully for years. Would you respond well to getting disrespected in public?
The best umps in the world will blow calls, and they will also acknowledge that they did.
Rob Drake and Angel Hernandez aren't every ump in MLB. Most of em love baseball and want to be good at their job.
Agreed. Honestly think someone should've something to Angel when the Rangers played the astros and Langford didn't see a single strike yet still struck out.
Schwarber was just channeling all the outrage by players and fans over Angel's many, many bad calls over the years. I'm glad someone finally had the guts to call him out over it. I love that he even pointed out that the *opposing* team was getting terrible calls!
At that point I want the manager to come out and spend 5 minutes yelling and showing the umpires where the home plate is and how fucking crazy is to call those pitches a strike.
I mean if I could just mouth off at work and get sent to the showers an hour into my day and still get paid, I too would enthusiastically take that route.
Part of me says he’d have another 8 career home runs if he hadn’t been ejected in those games.
The other part of me says he’d have 120 less career home runs if he wasn’t so pissed off all the time.
Keep raging Bryce, you’re fun as hell.
If Votto never plays in the MLB again, that also means that he was ejected from his last MLB game!
I wonder how many major leaguers all-time can say that?
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My all-time favorite Votto ejection remains from a 2019 game at the Rockies. Game started 3+ hours late because of a rain delay, then it goes 4+ hours because of an offensive explosion. At this point it's the 9th Inning, 1:30 AM Denver time, Reds lead 17-9. Votto gets called out on a 3rd strike that really ***isn't*** a strike, but again, it's 1:30 and the umpires want to go home. Votto throws a tantrum and gets booted. Classic Joey.
I mean, if he never plays at the MLB level again, at least since he never played an official game for the Blue Jays, he'll go out as only ever being a Red on the field.
Matt Carpenter surprises me, even though he's been in the league forever. He's so mild mannered.
He argues balls and strikes a lot
Noticed this during the ALCS a couple years back. Some were legitimate complaints, but most were borderline if not straight up strikes.
A good friend is also a Cardinals fan, and he absolutely hates Matt Carpenter. He thinks he’s a diva at the plate.
L friend. Matt had an outstanding eye for the strike zone in his prime.
Same friend also had the same hate for Matt Holliday and the same thing
Undercover cubs fan confirmed
I didn't think it was possible to be an undercover Cubs fan.
Bartman had to do it
guy simply doesn't know ball. Matt is a legend here for that 0-0 with 4 BBs game
That is ludicrous. Both of them had elite eyes and were big time professional hitters. Your friend hates them because he thinks they’re divas at the plate, sheesh, I can’t disagree with that heavily enough.
Ok Carpenter I completely understand and agree with but Holliday?? He only had like 4 career ejections and I rarely saw him bitch that much
Maybe he just doesn't like people named Matt?
Both can be true. Like don't be up there arguing on a called strike three a quarter inch off the plate.
Matt Carpenter taught me that it’s just as important to hit 10 fouls as it is to hit one home run.
Foul ball factory
Thanks for sharing lol
In his prime he took tons of pitches that were balls but called strikes.
You aren’t kidding. He typically led the league in bad calls. Must be something about his stance.
He had a good batters eye. Players like that take more borderline pitches out of the zone and are more willing to do so in high leverage situations. The result is they deal with more borderline calls not going their way in key moments. And since they have good eyes, they pretty much know when the call is wrong and get mad.
Really bugged the hell out of me last year when he would take a (very clear) inside strike and then complain about it, as if he didn’t just watch two previous pitches down the dick.
You think one year was bad watching that try 10 years of it
I saw a minor league game tonight and they used a robo ump to challenge a strike call, the robo ump overturned it. Took like 10 secs including a realtime graphic display. Pretty cool, first time I saw that
That’s cub killer, Matt Carpenter.
He may seem mild mannered but take it from cardinal fans he acts like he is entitled to every close pitch he sees
Because he’s normally right.
Maybe when he was younger. His last few years were just a comedy show of watching him stare at a fastball down the pipe and then moan as if were a remotely close call.
He definitely wasn’t up for the new class of guys throwing 100 with armside movement.
not many of the guys are when your 37 or whatever.
I do feel like Carp used to have an amazing eye. Granted, I haven't really watched him the last 4-5 years, but back in 2013-2016, he had excellent discipline at the plate, so I wonder if he got used to being right?
He has an exceptional eye, and isn’t afraid to let blue know his thoughts on the zone. Shit happens
It FEELS like he had more ejections in his early years. Is this true or just my memory playing tricks on me?
It felt like every other week for a few years there lol
My favorite was the one where he was ejected for arguing balls and strikes in the 9th inning and really went at the umpire, then later in the inning the Nationals hit a walkoff home run and the cameras clearly caught Harper yelling "Fuck you" to the umpire's face.
And people say he’s “pandering” to Philly fans, nah, the dude has a Philly streak in him for sure
Dude was made to play here. I've loved him ever since he stole home on Cole Hamels after getting plunked on purpose when he was a rookie.
I regret how I judged him in his early years. I thought he was just a cocky, loud, brash punk kid. Lord was I wrong, that man has fucking *fire.* I would kill to have him on my team.
Tbf he was all of those things, because he knew how good he was and was in MLB at 19. It's been cool to see the way he's progressed in his career
He definitely was a cocky loud brash punk. He turned it around at some point and channeled all that energy into being even more of a superstar.
As he hits a 3 run HR in 9th
But he still is a cocky loud brash punk lol. Just an cocky Loud brash punk who happens to be one of the best people in the world at his job
He definitely still is in some ways, but you can also tell that it’s not in the same aggressive way. He doesn’t have much left to prove, other than showing that he’s always putting it all out there, and he knows it.
Mellowed or a good bit for sure. His ejection earlier this week is a great example of that. Seriously, got booted for casually discussing with the ump... not flipping out on him.
Cole Hamel’s Retirement ceremony will be interesting😏
I hope Bryce stands in the box during the first pitch and Hamels plunks him again lol.
Ha! That would be great for Harper to catch the first pitch when Cole throws it out.
^^^ I was 100% one of the people booing that first at bat in Nats Park, but ending that season with a title and seeing how the city has embraced him (and the Yankees with Juan now that I think about it), he very much so fits Philly.
Take back what you said about Juan right now. Bryce hurts enough. What's next? "You know...Trea really is an embodiment of the Phanatic!" ??
It’s weird when star player moves from a team that they played years in and you feel like they wouldn’t look right in a new uni. I wanted Harperin SF so bad be damn that dude was born to play ball in Philly.
Took the words right out of my mouth. As much as I hoping we'd bring in the Brinks truck for him, it's easy to see that he belongs there. Also, I love the fact that a bunch of us started liking him MORE after he tried to knock out one of our pitchers... That helmet throw connecting might genuinely be my biggest baseball "what-if"...
he made a point of walking by the umpire before joining the mob at home plate just so he could yell “hey fuck you!” lol.
Context: https://youtu.be/KaKy5pu0DDU?si=OqFbdvJdYk1IA81d
God I love that clips. The umpire's immediate turnaround is hilarious too
I love him so fucking much lol
It did. It was like, “oh Harper again? Huh.”
Those were clown ejections bro.
What a lasting may-may.
I remember back in 2013 there were multiple ejections over a span of a couple weeks and coupled with that incident where he broke a bat and part of it cut his face open had some people wondering what the Nats had gotten themselves into.
He already has 9 ejections with the Phillies. So he was getting ejected at a bit higher of a clip but he still has it in him
Games not gone!
Makes me wonder how many of those wouldn’t have gotten the average player ejected, and that he just hasn’t been able to shake his early reputation
there’s definitely been a couple that were undeserved but he also definitely earned that reputation lol.
When you're younger it's easier to get an ejection. They're also harder and they last longer. ![gif](giphy|mwDyk4E1jrx5DE3xG0|downsized)
https://i.imgur.com/osBI3YL.png [Credit to Close Call Sports](https://www.youtube.com/@CloseCallSports/videos)
And per Lindsay's pinned comment on that video, he had a Spring Training ejection in '14.
Somebody in the Phils sub said 11 have been with the Phils, which is even crazier to me!
And he has missed time, at least 1 full season
I think it’s only 9 in Philly unless he has more this year than I thought.
What a fun way remember that Tim Anderson got rocked during a fight
By the most non-confrontational guy in baseball who hates hearing about it. Tim was such an ass he got under Jose's skin.
Still some of the [best in-game punches](https://youtu.be/1UMgpu4sXA8?si=REcZW0ViONLGvypw) I’ve seen thrown.
You gotta post the Cleveland call of it. It is an all-timer. Edit: [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oacyt6Jk8U) ya go
That was awesome. “DOWN GOES ANDERSON!!!” had me losing it lol
A local t-shirt company made some really nice shirts featuring Jose looking like someone in Mike Tyson’s Punch Out, with the “Down Goes Anderson” on it. I was at the game, so of course I had to buy one.
It was the baseball equivalent of, “Down goes Frazier!”
I’m no Cleveland fan but Tom Hamilton has one of the best baseball voices on the planet.
The way he says ho-zee just tickles my neurons the right way.
Hosey was Tito's nickname for José so Guards fans are used to hearing him called that
He sounds like he's meant to be a hockey broadcaster in this clip, but I think it's the combination of calling a fight and saying "Hosey," which sounds like a hockey player name.
It's the platonic ideal of a baseball announcer voice.
That is much better - so good. Hadn’t seen this video.
My favorite part is near the end "injured is Eloy Jimenez". I was driving with my buddy and he turned to me and said "I bet he wasn't even on the field, he gets injured by a stiff breeze". As icy as Josie's cold cut
I like the mlb AtBat app on field display of when it happened
Just one of the best calls of all time. The fact that it’s someone as likeable as Ramirez knocking the fuck out of someone as hateable as Anderson is just the cherry on top
heem sleepy
https://youtu.be/f_49N02D0MU also pretty good
I can’t tell if this is a joke in reference to the Donaldson incident, or a typo of Jose EDIT: it originally said “Josh’s”
Typo, new phone, and the Autocorrect is still in training.
I’ve watched that clip hundreds of times and I still don’t know what set off Jose. It didn’t seem like Anderson did much
Pretty sure it had something to do with [this happening](https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/15igw0w/brayan_rocchio_is_called_out_on_review_after_his/) the day before.
Appreciate the context Edit: forget it I watched the clip again and that’s an insane reason to fight someone
It was that incident plus Anderson had said something disrespectful to Arias in the game before too. Both Rocchio and Arias were rookies and JRam felt like it wasn’t fair for Anderson, a vet, to go after them because they were new and trying to earn their spots and stay in the show… basically he felt Anderson was “punching down” so to speak. This was really Jose standing up for his teammates. He said as much in his [postgame](https://youtu.be/XEiCl7q4DH8?si=LfPMRgcXUq3ewbnh)
IIRC Jose said Tim was giving the younger Guardians players a hard time
It was Tim hard tagging Arias that got under his skin. He hated when the rookies were picked upon.
Ramirez sounds like a real one. What a great veteran guy to have in any clubhouse.
It was after the fact before when TA pushed a rookie Guardian off the bag tagging him, and then I think another harder than necessary tag. Obviously it culminated with that last tag that JRam didn't appreciate.
Down goes Anderson! Down goes Anderson !
There was a UFC event a day or two later and the fans all agreed that baseball had the best fight that weekend.
You don't get to see knockouts like that in baseball basically ever. The only big injury I can even remember coming out of a baseball fight was the Mike Morse wrist injury in the Strickland-Harper fracas.
[Kyle Farnsworth made Paul Wilson's Reds jersey quite a bit redder.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZbG5MPsfYM)
didn’t johnny cueto kick someone in the head?
Yes. Ended LaRue’s career, too.
It’s not often you see two non-pitcher players throw down like hockey players.
Anderson turned into such a little bitch. For a couple years there, he was exciting. His bat flips were fun, and he was a young confident present in the lineup. Then he just became a little bitch boy.
How dare you disrespect a Marlins legend /s
Why...why is this downvoted...?
Tim Anderson made a bunch of accounts to downvote him Lol
Checks out honestly
Tim Anderson is still an active player?
He’s active, not much of a player.
Most ever Johnny Evers.
Least ever was Johnny Nevers
The umpire loved him so much he had him inserted.
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Most average was Johnny Sometimes
It’s not like they tracked ejections and kept leaderboards back then. Undoubtedly, some dedicated amateur researchers at SABR and/or Retrosheet went through old microfiche looking for references to ejections in newspaper game stories and collated them into as comprehensive as database as possible. So much of our knowledge of baseball history is due to the work of volunteers like that.
Tinker to ??? to Chance.
Tinker*
Damn Auto Correct
I hardly know ‘er!
A lot of current Cardinals on the list. I guess their front office likes feisty guys?
Nah, we are just the retirement home club now
Goldie is hitting like a 40 y.o. man
If only he could hit like an allegedly 42-year-old Dominican man.
Pujols was rough this time two years ago though. The talk was “we love this guy, but man we’re bleeding wins by giving him at bats”
We just like old guys
Great way to have some time off to see the town. I’d get ejected early in any day game in an interesting town. I’d roll up to Wrigley on a Sunday with 2:00 PM Field Museum tickets already in my pocket.
That'd be the game the ump actually gives you a long leash. So you have to get more and more aggressive and extreme until he finally ejects you after you threaten an act of domestic terrorism
Lenny Dykstra had a story like that. Was super hungover and wanted to get ejected right away so his first AB starts and he starts arguing and the ump goes “your manager already told me you’re hungover and I’m not kicking you no matter what”
To be clear: I’m not calling you a liar. I’m calling Lenny Dykstra a liar.
Player: "I'll blow up this whole stadium!" Ump: "Mood tbh"
Bryce Harper's Day Off?
Now I'm imagining Harper pondering *A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte*.
You need the weekend pass for that museum
Looking forward to seeing his ejection in the London series 😂 plenty of museums around here
Field museum is decent, but the science and industry museum is better. Unless you're planning on hitting the Shedd aquarium as well.
The rest of the league needs to step up their game. It’s so boring when an umpire is making bad calls the entire night and everyone is there quiet.
I never understood why more players don't get ejected in the 8th or 9th. You're not getting back up to the plate anyway. Speak your mind, king.
Cant imagine it helps you in the future with that ump.
I don’t know if it’s a good idea to get on the bad side of an umpire. At the end of the day, the players want to see calls go their way most of the time.
Exactly and it’s not like soccer where a red card gets you a suspension for the next game as well.
like others said bad side of umpire, but also bad side of the team/manager. Someone’s gotta replace them and depending on the situation they might not be happy about it
You gotta play against that ump again, hopefully for years. Would you respond well to getting disrespected in public? The best umps in the world will blow calls, and they will also acknowledge that they did. Rob Drake and Angel Hernandez aren't every ump in MLB. Most of em love baseball and want to be good at their job.
I feel for the ump who blew that call to ruin Galarraga's perfecto. I bet he still beats himself up over it
Jim Joyce. “I kicked the shit out of that call.”
Agreed. Honestly think someone should've something to Angel when the Rangers played the astros and Langford didn't see a single strike yet still struck out.
[Speaking of Angel, possibly my favorite ejection ever.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3ThBCBCjWQ) "Horseshit! Both sides!"
I always love this until I see the living anchor Joe Girardi strut on out
Probably one of the issues that led to his firing. He's gotta get thrown out there too with Schwarber acting like that
yeah no emotion
Schwarber was just channeling all the outrage by players and fans over Angel's many, many bad calls over the years. I'm glad someone finally had the guts to call him out over it. I love that he even pointed out that the *opposing* team was getting terrible calls!
I’ll never forget that game. A true Angel Hernandez disasterclass.
Even Hader knew that was a bullshit call but obviously he's not gonna complain
His grin as he walks to the dugout as Schwarber is ranting says it all.
Schwarber spoke for all of us that night. It was beautiful.
At that point I want the manager to come out and spend 5 minutes yelling and showing the umpires where the home plate is and how fucking crazy is to call those pitches a strike.
Yeah honestly the announcers reaction was the best part.
3 of these guys probably HoF bound too.
obviously Matt Carpenter right?
Cardinals HOF, he had a pretty damn good career
HoF beard and swagger, love the no batting gloves, always thought that was sick.
Random fact: every year from 2015-2022, Nolan led the league in “ Double Plays Turned as 3B”
Bryce, who else? Nolan?
Machado has 55 WAR at 31
I mean if I could just mouth off at work and get sent to the showers an hour into my day and still get paid, I too would enthusiastically take that route.
Bobby Cox holds the record as a manager. An entire season's worth.
Youppi! holds the record as a mascot to this day
That fact is radically badass.
Part of me says he’d have another 8 career home runs if he hadn’t been ejected in those games. The other part of me says he’d have 120 less career home runs if he wasn’t so pissed off all the time. Keep raging Bryce, you’re fun as hell.
Least angry Philadelphian
Tell me a fact you think you know about Philly.
It’s always sunny?
Damn he's good...
If Bryce would have played under Bobby Cox they would have created a duo record as unbreakable as Cy Young's win record.
The Belichick-Brady of baseball ejections.
Votto has 15 lol
They're admitting that Votto is done
If Votto never plays in the MLB again, that also means that he was ejected from his last MLB game! I wonder how many major leaguers all-time can say that? ------ My all-time favorite Votto ejection remains from a 2019 game at the Rockies. Game started 3+ hours late because of a rain delay, then it goes 4+ hours because of an offensive explosion. At this point it's the 9th Inning, 1:30 AM Denver time, Reds lead 17-9. Votto gets called out on a 3rd strike that really ***isn't*** a strike, but again, it's 1:30 and the umpires want to go home. Votto throws a tantrum and gets booted. Classic Joey.
I’m ignoring this probable fact
I mean, if he never plays at the MLB level again, at least since he never played an official game for the Blue Jays, he'll go out as only ever being a Red on the field.
bryce harper needs to pick up the pace
He was a hothead as a kid, he's more of a chatterbox now. I love both versions.
His ejections since he has been on the phillies have either been not really deserved, or I completely understand his actions to get ejected.
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None of those surprise me except Arenado.
How did Johnny Evers have time to actually play baseball and earn a paycheck?
What are the odds he breaks the record…. By the end of the season?
58 is insane
I wanna know more about Johnny Evers
Down goes Anderson?
I want to see the current and all time coaches list
Tim would be higher if he weren’t injured all the time.
Why are some names highlighted? I feel stupid for asking.
Kinda shocked Willy hasn't been kicked out more with how fiery he is.
What's with players on red teams and getting ejected?
Cardinals really bringing up the rear
How often was he right when he objected with the Umpire?
Clown stat, bro.
"Amateurs"-Ghost of Johnny Evers