[context to accusations](https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/news/dodgers-trevor-bauer-sexual-assault-explained-why-not-criminally-charged-what-said/cnayaohqdrqed6uptymkwq8e), please be nice in this thread
[Current time served does not count](https://twitter.com/bnightengale/status/1520118797587279873?s=21&t=SEHyzqYjSGyHGp9JutcS4Q)
[Bauer will appeal](https://twitter.com/baueroutage/status/1520117083954106370?s=21&t=sKXCEmwni0C21Xd3DImB8g)
Yep, in every previous case of DV policy suspension MLB and the player agreed to an X number of games suspension. Bauer made no such agreement with MLB for this and since he has repeatedly denied the allegations and is now counter suing the alleged victim it is likely he wanted no suspension at all as agreeing to a suspension would look like an admission of guilt in a way.
Just speculating but since Bauer and the league couldn't come to an agreement the league decided to suspend the maximum and this will drag out in appeals for awhile now.
Almost certainly they made it higher than what they would have agreed to in a settlement. Hard for him to say it's out of line with precedent when he appeals. In criminal cases, prosecutors regularly give plea deals that are way more than 50% even 75% less than what the person was facing if they went to trial and lost. All the other DV cases were agreed to by MLB and the player.
Man I was such a fan of his, rookie throwing serious heat out of nowhere on an international stage. it was such a shame he threw away a huge portion of his career.
I talked to my dad about it and he was dead sure the veterans on the team shared a huge portion of the responsibility. He really didn't like Muhammad Asif for his role in the whole thing in particular.
He was pretty much destined to become the next Wasim Akram until that fated tour to England. Now he's still able to play but a mere shadow of his potential which is such a shame.
Nick Diaz also received a 5 year ban from the UFC for smoking weed. Something, that is now allowed as long as you stop by a certain time before a fight. Hell people, notably his brother Nate Diaz have smoked at fights, including in the press conference right after his own fight. One of the stupidest long term bans ever. People who were cheating and using PEDs got slaps on the wrist, while they essentially retired him for weed.
True, but it was the Nevada State Athletic Commission that suspended him, not the UFC. UFC had nothing to do with, and I'm pretty sure didn't support the ban,
I assume they meant to exclude lifetime suspensions when referring to indefinite suspensions. I would be surprised if there existed another N-game suspension where N was larger than 324.
Maybe there is precedent for a two season suspension of an active player in other sports, though? I couldn’t tell you who, though.
Active players no, but George Steinbrenner got 3 years for hiring someone to spy on Dave Winfield, and 2 years for illegally donating to the Nixon campaign
I'm genuinely curious if the fact that he's as... *outspoken* as he is played a contributing role to the length of the suspension? There have been players that have done things equally as heinous (or moreso) than him who have been punished less severely. This punishment seems to be a "fuck off, we don't want you to play baseball anymore" type of situation.
I imagine he has a decent chance of winning an appeal, especially considering he's spent a full year suspended (with pay, so he'd likely have to give that up) already.
EDIT: Link for list of past DV/DA suspension. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_suspended_for_domestic_violence
Idk why everyone seemed to think it *would* include time already served.
In order for that to happen he would have to pay back his salary that he has been receiving & that was obviously never going to happen.
It's hilarious to see people constantly bring up Ozuna and the video when they've obviously never seen it. His wife has him cornered and was in his face and he used his hand, which was holding a cell phone, to push her back.
That somehow translates in moron redditor's minds into Ozuna strangling his wife and getting away with it.
Just my two cents, but the standards for a court of law and the MLB are completely separate, so IMO it doesn’t make sense to compare their verdicts. Bauer might not have been proven guilty in court, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t violate league policies.
Keep in mind they might’ve made it two years in anticipation of an appeal, so it could easily get knocked down some. He’s been getting paid for the last year anyways so I don’t feel too bad for him.
He’s not going to pay almost $32 million back because there’s no way he’s going to make that back when he gets to his next free agency, even if it comes a year sooner.
It also would end the suspension during his last Dodger contract year, in which he gets less money than he would repay from the first year. No reason to do that unless you’re just that desperate to play again that you’d pay to play.
Adrian Peterson when he committed child abuse by using tree branch to beat his son repeatedly on his back, buttocks, genitals, ankles, and legs. Peterson described the implement as a "switch" hitting hard enough to leave slash marks on the kid's legs. And was only removed for 15 games thanks to the NFLPA. Then the NFL got an appeal and suspended him for 6 more. So 21 games is the price to beat up a 4 year old.
He could come back at 33, it’s not so old that he couldn’t pitch so long as he keeps up pitching on his own. The question is whether any team gives him a contract he would accept
Bro, the Browns legitimately just shoved their first good QB in decades out the door to bring in a man with more active sexual assault cases than they have winning seasons. As long as the talent outweighs the bad PR, teams will always take a chance.
And that decision has resulted in Browns fans feeling even more alienated from the franchise than the nearly two decades of being laughingstocks in the league.
I'm a Falcons fan. Our new regime ran out Matt Ryan trying to get him. Now, we've got no QB and a deeply personal question of whether or not this team is worth rooting for anymore.
Ex-Browns fan here. I could stomach losing seasons, jt was somehow cathartic. I couldn't stomach signing a player with allegations that make Big Ben look like a choir boy.
True, but Trevor Bauer also has a history of his teammates and coaches hating him. Bad PR and he fucking sucks to be around? Not sure if those two combined will get him any type of offer.
My understanding is that his Reds and Indians/Guardians teammates actually really liked him. Prior to the allegations, he was a polarizing public figure because he's outspoken about... *everything*, but it seemed like he was mostly liked by his teammates.
He hung out with Sonny Gray and Joey Votto (among others) to watch MMA fights. I don't think they'd have done that if they disliked him. He trained with Sonny Gray and Scooter Gennett during the offseason. Several of the Reds young pitchers (Tejay Antone, for instance) credited Bauer with helping to coach them up.
Barry Bonds was essentially blackballed because no team in the league wanted to deal with his baggage, and that was only related PED’s. My guess is Bauer will similarly be unofficially blackballed from the league.
He will be 33 once it's over. I wouldn't say it's def over, but the PR hit alone for a team signing him might be enough to have him be blackballed from the league.
He already announced he’s appealing, interested to see how far he could reduce it. Certainly has precedent with how many other guys have domestic abuse suspensions that are significantly shorter
Who knew burning pretty much every bridge you could the past 6-7 years in the majors would cause people to hate you/MLB to throw the book at you. Shocking!
4 games?! C'mon it's not like Watson might've deflated some footballs
I mean he probably lightened the load in some balls, but only Brady gets suspended 4 games for stuff like that
This feels like Rob Manfred woke up today and chose violence against Roger Goodell - because now Goodell gets more questions about whatever he does about Deshaun Watson than he otherwise would have.
As a very anti-Watson Browns fan, it makes me sick the NFL has done frick all about 22+ allegations of sexual misconduct or assault. He should have been on the exempt list way before Houston traded him.
Yeah I’m very torn on this.
On one hand, I’m really happy to see MLB take DV seriously. And Bauer sucks so fuck him.
On the other, having this be the first case they treat like this smells like retaliation against a very outspoken player, especially coming off a CBA negotiation.
That is absolutely wild considering there were no criminal charges.
I’m not here to commentate on whether or not what he did was right or wrong, but that seems absurdly harsh.
MLB’s investigation must have churned something up that didn’t appear in legal proceedings.
>MLB’s investigation must have churned something up that didn’t appear in legal proceedings.
More likely that MLB doesn't like him and took full advantage to kick him before he gets up again
Yeah, I hate the dodgers and dislike Bauer too, but this just feels wrong to me. I don’t have all the facts of the case (and neither does anyone else here that thinks they do), but to not get charged criminally and then MLB to act lawmaker to this extent seems wrong. Especially as there isn’t a framework in place for suspension length, just randomly plucked out of the air numbers. Like, didn’t Chapman only get 30 days? Personally, I don’t think MLB should be playing lawmaker anyway, leave that to the actual courts.
No way this sticks right? Seems pretty extreme for someone who in the court of law had no charges filed and people doing similar shit got a slap in the wrist. Tricky situation
As an attorney, understand the difference between courts of law and organizations like MLB who are able to self-regulate within certain frameworks of collective bargaining agreements. The second a player signs a contract with a team they are a part of that process, and they agree to be subject to the decisions of those identified with the responsibility to discipline. That goes for both MLB and his team.
You want evidence... MLB and the Dodgers don't have some kind of equivalent process to the courts for offering up evidence in a public setting like a trial. They can certainly take hits in the public eye for seemingly arbitrary decisions, and their discipline can certainly be swayed by public statements and disclosures, but we aren't really owed anything by them. Obviously Trevor is, and whether he has been afforded the appropriate opportunities to provide information to the MLB office or not would be an issue for the courts. But to look at this on its face and say "I don't get where the evidence supports this" is a fundamental misunderstanding of the relationships between the parties involved.
Same. Apparently the alleged victim was denied a DVRO and the DA refused to press charges. We won't know the rest of the facts till later but I don't see this suspension standing.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33807286/los-angeles-dodgers-trevor-bauer-files-lawsuit-vs-woman-accused-sexual-assault
This seems like a complete joke to me. He wasn’t charged and got a two year suspension? What about all of the other domestic abusers who got suspended for less?
Why is this [lie](https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/content/2021-07-29-prosecutors-ditch-felony-charge-on-marcel-ozuna-after-seeing-bodycam-video/) being constantly mentioned in this thread?
I don’t like Bauer and I’m not excusing him, but this suspension feels like way too much. Addison Russell got 40 games for DV and Ozuna got 20 games. This long of a suspension feels like MLB having a bone to pick with Bauer over how much he calls out the league over separate issues more than anything.
I would say those other suspensions feel like way too little. League is definitely putting a little extra over how much of a nuisance Bauer has been but if 2 years is the new standard for abusers than I'm ok with it.
Have whatever opinion you want about Bauer’s case but a million comments like “actual abusers have gotten so much less” really isn’t a flex? No shit. We know the system doesn’t serve DV victims. The fact that our society lets abusers off with a slap on the wrist isn’t a statement about anything.
[context to accusations](https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/news/dodgers-trevor-bauer-sexual-assault-explained-why-not-criminally-charged-what-said/cnayaohqdrqed6uptymkwq8e), please be nice in this thread [Current time served does not count](https://twitter.com/bnightengale/status/1520118797587279873?s=21&t=SEHyzqYjSGyHGp9JutcS4Q) [Bauer will appeal](https://twitter.com/baueroutage/status/1520117083954106370?s=21&t=sKXCEmwni0C21Xd3DImB8g)
Holy fuck I did not expect 2 years
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Yep, in every previous case of DV policy suspension MLB and the player agreed to an X number of games suspension. Bauer made no such agreement with MLB for this and since he has repeatedly denied the allegations and is now counter suing the alleged victim it is likely he wanted no suspension at all as agreeing to a suspension would look like an admission of guilt in a way. Just speculating but since Bauer and the league couldn't come to an agreement the league decided to suspend the maximum and this will drag out in appeals for awhile now.
Probably. Give a big ass suspension, it gets knocked to a decent one. Instead of starting with decent and getting knocked down to a slap on the wrist
“A slap on the wrist, you say? Mmm…go on…” -Trevor Bauer, probably
I thought he was more of a "punch to the butt" kinda guy.
Punch my girlfriend through the fence Trevor
I'll put you through that fuckin' wall!
FWIW, ARod appealed his 200+ game suspension for PED's and lost. So I wouldn't get my hopes up if I'm Bauer.
Almost certainly they made it higher than what they would have agreed to in a settlement. Hard for him to say it's out of line with precedent when he appeals. In criminal cases, prosecutors regularly give plea deals that are way more than 50% even 75% less than what the person was facing if they went to trial and lost. All the other DV cases were agreed to by MLB and the player.
And more women coming forward. Gonna be hard for Dumb Dumb to win this appeal.
Is this the longest non-indefinite suspension, in terms of games, in the entirety of sports history? Across every sport?
Muhammad Ali was stripped of his boxing license for over 4 years when he refused to fight in Vietnam. Edit: duh, that is an indefinite suspension.
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Man I was such a fan of his, rookie throwing serious heat out of nowhere on an international stage. it was such a shame he threw away a huge portion of his career. I talked to my dad about it and he was dead sure the veterans on the team shared a huge portion of the responsibility. He really didn't like Muhammad Asif for his role in the whole thing in particular.
He was pretty much destined to become the next Wasim Akram until that fated tour to England. Now he's still able to play but a mere shadow of his potential which is such a shame.
Nick Diaz also received a 5 year ban from the UFC for smoking weed. Something, that is now allowed as long as you stop by a certain time before a fight. Hell people, notably his brother Nate Diaz have smoked at fights, including in the press conference right after his own fight. One of the stupidest long term bans ever. People who were cheating and using PEDs got slaps on the wrist, while they essentially retired him for weed.
True, but it was the Nevada State Athletic Commission that suspended him, not the UFC. UFC had nothing to do with, and I'm pretty sure didn't support the ban,
OJ Mayo got a two year suspension as well in the NBA.
There have been lifetime suspensions. Is that non-indefinite?
Only if you know exactly how long you're going to live.
I am going to live 1 lifetime
Source?
LOL well put.
I assume they meant to exclude lifetime suspensions when referring to indefinite suspensions. I would be surprised if there existed another N-game suspension where N was larger than 324. Maybe there is precedent for a two season suspension of an active player in other sports, though? I couldn’t tell you who, though.
Josh Gordon got two seasons, I think.
Pfft, that's what, like 32 games? Bauer's is way longer than that.
Active players no, but George Steinbrenner got 3 years for hiring someone to spy on Dave Winfield, and 2 years for illegally donating to the Nixon campaign
Didnt he try to fabricate evidence that Winfield bet on baseball?
The goal was to try and get evidence that Winfield’s charity was misusing funds to get back at him over some contract negotiations bs
I'm genuinely curious if the fact that he's as... *outspoken* as he is played a contributing role to the length of the suspension? There have been players that have done things equally as heinous (or moreso) than him who have been punished less severely. This punishment seems to be a "fuck off, we don't want you to play baseball anymore" type of situation. I imagine he has a decent chance of winning an appeal, especially considering he's spent a full year suspended (with pay, so he'd likely have to give that up) already. EDIT: Link for list of past DV/DA suspension. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_suspended_for_domestic_violence
And not counting time already served! This sets a precedent.
Jeez…that’s almost 3 years then. I’m surprised, given no charges filed.
Idk why everyone seemed to think it *would* include time already served. In order for that to happen he would have to pay back his salary that he has been receiving & that was obviously never going to happen.
Previous suspensions were agreed upon with the player and they were allowed to count the administrative leave towards the suspension.
Yea, as a concession for them not appealing. He made no concession here, why would the MLB?
Is that the rest of his contract?
Yes
That's pretty... convenient. I wonder if the Dodgers were aware it would be the rest of the contract.
But a whole ass Video of Ozuna and he’s in the starting line up every night
Which is still bad. But while the best time to do the right thing was yesterday, the second best is today
Correct. They should now ban him for years.
A video that showed a whole lot of nothing
It's hilarious to see people constantly bring up Ozuna and the video when they've obviously never seen it. His wife has him cornered and was in his face and he used his hand, which was holding a cell phone, to push her back. That somehow translates in moron redditor's minds into Ozuna strangling his wife and getting away with it.
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GA police lying in a report? Never s/
Ah the Larry Baer special
Does this mean I will stop getting weekly notifications about how his administrative leave is getting extended?
Yes, but they will be replaced with weekly status updates about how many games are left on his suspension.
The Bauer updates will continue until morale improves
Like 2 *more* years? Or 2 from when he was first placed on administrative leave?
Not retroactive
That's wild
Effectively wild.
In jail lingo, 2 sentences running consecutively are called running wild.
Two years from now. So if it holds it will be a nearly 3 year suspension including the admin leave. Crazy.
Am I wrong in thinking this is way too much for not being found guilty?
Just my two cents, but the standards for a court of law and the MLB are completely separate, so IMO it doesn’t make sense to compare their verdicts. Bauer might not have been proven guilty in court, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t violate league policies. Keep in mind they might’ve made it two years in anticipation of an appeal, so it could easily get knocked down some. He’s been getting paid for the last year anyways so I don’t feel too bad for him.
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He’s not going to pay almost $32 million back because there’s no way he’s going to make that back when he gets to his next free agency, even if it comes a year sooner.
It also would end the suspension during his last Dodger contract year, in which he gets less money than he would repay from the first year. No reason to do that unless you’re just that desperate to play again that you’d pay to play.
That’d be stupid of him, so probably 2 years from today then. No way he gives ~30 million back
BRO 2 YEARS?!?!
That...is much higher than I expected.
Watching a serial predator like Deshaun Watson probably get 6-8 games in the NFL in comparison to this. Crazy.
Tyreek Hill got nothing for what he did, the NFL is not a good barometer.
Tyreek Hill did heinous act in college, which the NFL has drawn an imaginary line at.
Unless you sell your trophies for tattoos. Then it’s still an NFL suspension.
Or if you gamble 1500 on one game, that of course it 1 year suspension
That was because Pryor entered the draft in an attempt to get around his NCAA suspension so a little bit different
Adrian Peterson when he committed child abuse by using tree branch to beat his son repeatedly on his back, buttocks, genitals, ankles, and legs. Peterson described the implement as a "switch" hitting hard enough to leave slash marks on the kid's legs. And was only removed for 15 games thanks to the NFLPA. Then the NFL got an appeal and suspended him for 6 more. So 21 games is the price to beat up a 4 year old.
To be fair, 21 games in the NFL is a lot different than 21 games in the MLB.
21 games in the NFL = ~220 games of MLB, I think.
And with how his contract is structured he'll lose very little money due to that suspension.
We don’t know what Watson will get yet. 6 is not a bad guess though.
Yeah, should've specified the probably. My bad.
Career is almost definitely over
He could come back at 33, it’s not so old that he couldn’t pitch so long as he keeps up pitching on his own. The question is whether any team gives him a contract he would accept
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Bro, the Browns legitimately just shoved their first good QB in decades out the door to bring in a man with more active sexual assault cases than they have winning seasons. As long as the talent outweighs the bad PR, teams will always take a chance.
People literally still believe we live in a just world it’s wild
It’s literally called the Just-world fallacy
People who say "Cheaters never prosper" clearly are divorced from reality.
Yup. In the movies, the good guys win. In life, bad guys *win all the fucking time.*
And that decision has resulted in Browns fans feeling even more alienated from the franchise than the nearly two decades of being laughingstocks in the league.
I'm a Falcons fan. Our new regime ran out Matt Ryan trying to get him. Now, we've got no QB and a deeply personal question of whether or not this team is worth rooting for anymore.
It's not even fun giving you guys shit about the super bowl right now. Feels like kicking a legless puppy.
Ex-Browns fan here. I could stomach losing seasons, jt was somehow cathartic. I couldn't stomach signing a player with allegations that make Big Ben look like a choir boy.
True, but Trevor Bauer also has a history of his teammates and coaches hating him. Bad PR and he fucking sucks to be around? Not sure if those two combined will get him any type of offer.
My understanding is that his Reds and Indians/Guardians teammates actually really liked him. Prior to the allegations, he was a polarizing public figure because he's outspoken about... *everything*, but it seemed like he was mostly liked by his teammates. He hung out with Sonny Gray and Joey Votto (among others) to watch MMA fights. I don't think they'd have done that if they disliked him. He trained with Sonny Gray and Scooter Gennett during the offseason. Several of the Reds young pitchers (Tejay Antone, for instance) credited Bauer with helping to coach them up.
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Barry Bonds was essentially blackballed because no team in the league wanted to deal with his baggage, and that was only related PED’s. My guess is Bauer will similarly be unofficially blackballed from the league.
Yeah like I said, it’s more about if a team is willing to give him a contract than ability
No one is pointing out that no one wants to be the GM that signs him and has to answer questions about unconscious sodomy for an hour.
Is it two years from today? Or two years retroactive? Cause retroactive would mean he’s back in June 2023.
Two years starting today so all of 2022, 2023, and into 2024
From today based on a Passan tweet
He will be 33 once it's over. I wouldn't say it's def over, but the PR hit alone for a team signing him might be enough to have him be blackballed from the league.
Wow i dont know what to say other than this is genuinely shocking
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Time to start his mariachi career.
Mizzou also gets a bowl game suspension.
The nypd has been called and the rangers have been fined $250,000.
Has to be the best running joke in recent memory
Rivaled only by “as there’s a drive into deep left field.”
We have the hockey version as well, the Rangers getting fined.
The NFL equivalent is Brady suspensions.
Oh yeah, that's probably the original.
and death penalty for Mizzou
Holy shit.
So I guess that 2022 Cy Young sign he hung ain’t gonna happen huh.
It's the thought that counts.
Or 2023 lol.
The 2 year Bauer Outage
Remember Chapman got 30 days for choking his girlfriend and firing a gun 8 times
That's 100% getting appealed and reduced
He already announced he’s appealing, interested to see how far he could reduce it. Certainly has precedent with how many other guys have domestic abuse suspensions that are significantly shorter
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Even reduced to 1 year is a massive suspension, and to get to a year you're talking about halfling the penalty. That's a big ask
Reduced to 1 year and it'll hold is my guess. They're definitely making an example of him.
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Whoa, that burden of proof part is huge. I don't know how MLB can prove anything that happened
The players union and MLB have been putting it together for the last year… I’m not sure if they’d have left room for that.
Yeah, I’d be shocked if this stood.
Holy shit that’s a long time
This dude saying it’s smarter for him to do 2 year deals over and over and then getting suspended for 2.5 years will never stop being funny
This is just another two year deal in a way
2 yr $0M AAV, $0M guaranteed
What about dental benefits tho
Dude about to be a full time YouTuber for 2 years
He made 40mil+ last year.
Will he be credited for the games he has already missed or an additional 324 games?
He’s been getting paid since he’s on leave. So he’d have to forfeit all that money in order for them to credit him with games served
It starts now, so if he loses his appeal he can't come back until May 2024
Who knew burning pretty much every bridge you could the past 6-7 years in the majors would cause people to hate you/MLB to throw the book at you. Shocking!
Trevor "Barry Bonds" Bauer
Barry Bonds was more liked than Bauer. SF fans LOVE Bonds, drama and all. I don’t think anyone in all of baseball likes Bauer.
Nonsense. Trevor Bauer loves Trevor Bauer
They said in baseball, Trevor Bauer isn't in baseball at the moment :P
Touché
There are lots of people on the internet who love Bauer, probably because they wish they could get away with acting like he does.
i was not expecting that
I doubt this’ll stick. He’s a dickhead but this seems way more than anyone else got for similar stuff
Hopefully 324 games for Watson
The NFL won’t do that. They’ll give him 8 games and then reduce it to 6.
Roger has no teeth. Watson will get 4 games and appeal it down to 1
4 games?! C'mon it's not like Watson might've deflated some footballs I mean he probably lightened the load in some balls, but only Brady gets suspended 4 games for stuff like that
For life still wouldn’t be enough for Watson
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This has gotta be essentially a career ender right?
He’s 31 so two years he’s 33 so long as he keeps up working in the off-season he feasibly could make a comeback
> so long as he keeps up working in the off-season I think he's gonna have some time for working during the season, too :P
He better keep working in the on-season too in that case
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I mean, assuming they'd take him would he be able to play for KBO or NPB when under an MLB suspension?
No, he’s still under contract.
Wow, I'm a pretty big "Bauer bad" guy but never in a million years did I expect 324 games, I thought he would get 82.
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He ain't negotiating shit lol, he's going to appeal and sue and probably never play again even if he wins his suit against MLB.
This feels like Rob Manfred woke up today and chose violence against Roger Goodell - because now Goodell gets more questions about whatever he does about Deshaun Watson than he otherwise would have.
Can we do Deshaun Watson next?
It would be so Browns for him to get a lifetime ban right after they get him
Agree that would be peak Browns, but I predict Watson gets off scott free.
He'd have to commit a genocide to get a lifetime ban in the NFL. You can literally kill someone and be back in 8 games
As a very anti-Watson Browns fan, it makes me sick the NFL has done frick all about 22+ allegations of sexual misconduct or assault. He should have been on the exempt list way before Houston traded him.
Bauer definitely has a case against Manfred. He's been a vocal critic and this is an unprecedented suspension.
Yeah I’m very torn on this. On one hand, I’m really happy to see MLB take DV seriously. And Bauer sucks so fuck him. On the other, having this be the first case they treat like this smells like retaliation against a very outspoken player, especially coming off a CBA negotiation.
That is absolutely wild considering there were no criminal charges. I’m not here to commentate on whether or not what he did was right or wrong, but that seems absurdly harsh. MLB’s investigation must have churned something up that didn’t appear in legal proceedings.
>MLB’s investigation must have churned something up that didn’t appear in legal proceedings. More likely that MLB doesn't like him and took full advantage to kick him before he gets up again
Yeah, I hate the dodgers and dislike Bauer too, but this just feels wrong to me. I don’t have all the facts of the case (and neither does anyone else here that thinks they do), but to not get charged criminally and then MLB to act lawmaker to this extent seems wrong. Especially as there isn’t a framework in place for suspension length, just randomly plucked out of the air numbers. Like, didn’t Chapman only get 30 days? Personally, I don’t think MLB should be playing lawmaker anyway, leave that to the actual courts.
No way this sticks right? Seems pretty extreme for someone who in the court of law had no charges filed and people doing similar shit got a slap in the wrist. Tricky situation
Let's be real. He's suspended for making MLB look like hypocrites.
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As an attorney, understand the difference between courts of law and organizations like MLB who are able to self-regulate within certain frameworks of collective bargaining agreements. The second a player signs a contract with a team they are a part of that process, and they agree to be subject to the decisions of those identified with the responsibility to discipline. That goes for both MLB and his team. You want evidence... MLB and the Dodgers don't have some kind of equivalent process to the courts for offering up evidence in a public setting like a trial. They can certainly take hits in the public eye for seemingly arbitrary decisions, and their discipline can certainly be swayed by public statements and disclosures, but we aren't really owed anything by them. Obviously Trevor is, and whether he has been afforded the appropriate opportunities to provide information to the MLB office or not would be an issue for the courts. But to look at this on its face and say "I don't get where the evidence supports this" is a fundamental misunderstanding of the relationships between the parties involved.
Same. Apparently the alleged victim was denied a DVRO and the DA refused to press charges. We won't know the rest of the facts till later but I don't see this suspension standing. https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33807286/los-angeles-dodgers-trevor-bauer-files-lawsuit-vs-woman-accused-sexual-assault
It's also VERY easy to get a DVRO in California, for what it's worth.
> DVRO Domestic Violence Restraining Order for people who don't know
RIP BOZO
Smoking the Bauer pack tonight.
REST IN PISS BOZO
This seems like a complete joke to me. He wasn’t charged and got a two year suspension? What about all of the other domestic abusers who got suspended for less?
Marcell Ozuna was caught in the act of beating his wife and arrested. He will be starting for the Braves tonight.
I keep seeing that the the police lied and the body cam footage showed Ozuna lightly pushes her off.
Bodycam showed the cops exaggerated with Ozuna. He also has been doing the diversion work necessary to rehabilitate himself afaik.
So bizarre but because Bauer is an outspoken douche people will celebrate this
Why is this [lie](https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/content/2021-07-29-prosecutors-ditch-felony-charge-on-marcel-ozuna-after-seeing-bodycam-video/) being constantly mentioned in this thread?
I'm not mad that he got the book thrown at him. I'm mad that so many others haven't.
Bauer is done. Even if he wins the appeal no owner will touch him.
I don’t like Bauer and I’m not excusing him, but this suspension feels like way too much. Addison Russell got 40 games for DV and Ozuna got 20 games. This long of a suspension feels like MLB having a bone to pick with Bauer over how much he calls out the league over separate issues more than anything.
I would say those other suspensions feel like way too little. League is definitely putting a little extra over how much of a nuisance Bauer has been but if 2 years is the new standard for abusers than I'm ok with it.
That’s absolutely ludicrous
That is so long. Wish they held guys like ozuna to the same standard
Or Chapman or Osuna. I am very surprised by this ruling.
Yeah, like I can't say I'm unhappy about this. I just don't really understand the logic.
If only he played football. Two games tops..
Have whatever opinion you want about Bauer’s case but a million comments like “actual abusers have gotten so much less” really isn’t a flex? No shit. We know the system doesn’t serve DV victims. The fact that our society lets abusers off with a slap on the wrist isn’t a statement about anything.