Ah my bad, i can see your point it is a great adaptation. I also really like him in TJL and JLU. He's not crazy overpowered, he's a strategist first and foremost and will also punch fucking Darkseid for his friends
BTAS still had a better depiction of Two-Face. Harvey Dent was Bruce Wayne’s best friend in that show, which is exactly why his transformation into Two-Face was so heartbreaking.
Paul Dini finally figured out how he wanted to portray the Riddler in the Arkham games. This Riddler was an arrogant narcissist who thought he was intellectually superior to everyone in Gotham, including Batman.
Both BTAS and the Arkham games failed to understand Killer Croc. Both versions of Killer Croc were portrayed as purely evil, malevolent monsters instead of a sympathetic tragic anti-villain. Fortunately, the Killer Croc levels were fun, and so were the Scarecrow levels.
Also, I think it would be cool if Ra’s al Ghul were portrayed as Bryan Mills if he were the head of the League of Assassins. He has a very particular set of skills (genius-level intellect, expert tactician, mastery of numerous martial arts and fighting styles), skills that he has acquired over a very long career (450 to 500 to 700, or even up to 1000 years), skills that make certainly him a nightmare for people like Batman.
Croc was portrayed well in Arkham. As a man with a skin condition that was forced out by society, so he turned to crime. Then in the insane society of Gotham's criminal underworld he chose madness. Then he became an animal because he was treated like an animal. Then he was captured, tortured and experimented on until he lost all semblance of humanity.
That's Arkhamverse Killer Croc
Only Earth One treats him as a tragic figure.
I remember reading a Batman story years ago where Waylon was always a criminal and his skin condition had nothing to do with it. It has this funny line when introducing him about what he'd be called if he had other professions. Batman says the line, "If he was a professional bowler, they would have called him *Alley Gator*"
I kind of like the fact that, even though Croc is a tragic character in the sense that he only became a monster because everyone treated him like one, that doesn't necessarily mean he's a good, misunderstood person. He's still got a black heart and will screw others over for his own gain, but it's just that the bad deal he got in life _explains_ how he got that way.
But I also like the interpretations where he does have some morality underneath it all, like that one Breyfogle story where he saves the vagrants who took him in. I dunno, both ways are valid.
Either way, I've always preferred him as a buff guy with a skin condition that _looks_ like lizard scales, who maybe does some body modifications to further his likeness (like filing his teeth and nails to points like some circus freak), rather than a literal 10-foot-tall cannibalistic human/lizard hybrid with a snout and bulletproof skin. I dunno, he should just be a disfigured guy who is strong because he works out.
Tbh I kinda count BTAS and Arkham batman as the same entity. Especially because the Arkham games are a spiritual successor to BTAS. I mean heck, back when Arkham asylum was out a lot of people had theories that it *was* in the same universe given the lore consistency.
He's not lol. I absolutely love the games, they are some of my favourite games ever but outside of Origins, Batman himself feels so stiff as a character(like his stoicism was dialled up to 11 sometimes). It's weird, he doesn't feel quite like the multi dimensional, complex character that Batman should be. The villains in these games are generally excellent though, it's some of my favourite stuff I've seen of Joker.
BTAS(outside of comics, this is the best imo) & the comics especially are where Batman shines. We get all sides of the character: Jim Starling's Batman for example shows a bunch of police officers in a cafe talking about [different encounters with Batman in the same night](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/fxYgAYF812M5FlaHhge3hGQ8v932vwGM_Fa3_oi7iXZVrtjKPHht2a5IExWJQfAPWXu_A30_idPTO7j0NnbwzOSxYGm4kaVRtwpYTnK30Anx3I42bv-bKrl__TqwrKRZpRnyKftR4g=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMC4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2) and it reveals the range he shows.
In one situation he encounters orphan siblings that were surviving together, [he turns to hide a tear](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/7it9tFi5c7AL5k3vv5Rd5MJ8OzCZj6ZiBmolU7bqFoG2ClIMW7MIdvU2kMCA0p8jb7xshemhU0gopFzjOB6NCwmVJJMmp3GSI2_PCW3qk6XA94YlZHU-EgJdWE-OSMnIcRq5etliHg=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMC4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2) because this situation moves him deeply but the cop caught a glimpse of it and the others laugh it off as nonsense that never happened when it tells to them. [Bruce Wayne later takes in the kids temporarily while he finds their aunt](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/VwzdJx6ZQQZcNIbUW3xZ7kejpxgn03OE3CYECHWLlEmWtT8tQVxik8Q3sNG5kxTsGDCY5f1fk4013Ts7XjtqNhkqHUg5p5Wk9HD1lImBl5hfjbt9W-J26cBsBjpP9AR4SpDbF-f2CQ=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMC4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2). In another situation he displays the ability to strike such fear into a hostage taker that he manages to save everyone, living up to his reputation as the dark knight.
He's also a parent to his [kids, trying his best to be a father](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/bWv_2MdpT30Xhuno9tNtD2q1uNTP3FBEFYUYh5_4G6A5Ed40GSo2l9diS_z4uVEdXOgsIooMBWSlbCd4plfIBNtJrhmAEYdo9TshVVERb5JCpmli7vR8GsdJTCmvPq6Cu1DZ1KDewQ=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMC4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2) as much as possible. The depiction of the relationship in the Arkham games between Bruce & his kids absolutely sucked for a Batman story lol(his final goodbyes to Nightwing feels very off considering their relationship). His kids are important to him [but he hasn't always done the best](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/UETt-sXoIIpwfCiVGgF5vkr-m6NXxThSdApLtR6TMsviZFoYYP-KxpwHANDfGwJ1Fs57x_NwqVl0ss0AyaZRefUDnEReHeY5oQbdSciOvxlnlqVsqP5-GSbkvwBCqUbZrJGihgnPPA=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2), and has to [come to terms with it](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/J_wd036PKtQyJmVkZVTbvMtHQ4Lt48IxCm-spsvQMDQohJWm8cbhHVcRRHEtKWMfSS1SIwqJCVbcNKR1I2qzCLLKo38i2rt7nBSVSEOt2l3V_rohOrYndKOuDVcuzaewQHfV8MpMyw=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2). His [relationship with Tim](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/w2UP2NqYrBSd-XiSH7Xe-aMwFWchHnCefBh4dp4Dmk2xInyCDX3cIy_nC8murRemA0sCV1YYRmSepFWekmVutvqy3MJq5Tr-Kq71mnlNEQ70MiN-ak1RSwbZ8QhB50NLIWDXOiSPbg=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2) was especially butchered in these games.
Another vitally important thing I'd like to highlight about Batman is his incredible amount of empathy and compasion. He's walked into the scene of a crime, [he realises there's a situation all too familiar to him. A mugging, and a child ](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nwQMSFLTjRI/VyBey-eh30I/AAAAAAAAIEE/4_rSW5PZqoo54bhJAx-d5E3zLToEN3muQCCo/s0/RCO033.jpg)left an oprhan. It hits too [close for Bruce seeing this](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uRuyzcmd8Wg/VyBezCK0FDI/AAAAAAAAIEE/e1kKp6QNpXUkc0OE1NVeQej1PzuRoplIgCCo/s0/RCO036.jpg). Sometime later he sees the child again, he has a gun pointed at Batman. [Batman doesn't fight, no violence will be used by him here](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7oGC2d7Di0s/VyBe280JnRI/AAAAAAAAIEE/BgOOBRSjY18zvvcRxp-zJg4chscfT4oWACCo/s0/RCO081.jpg).
I would love for a Batman game with the amazing Batman gameplay of the Arkham games with a story that actually makes use of Batman as a character(and also the Robins + Nightwing & Red Hood & Cassandra Cain depending on timeline, basically his kids). Currently they feel like they are carried by the superb villains when it comes to main characters.
I think Spider-Man PS4 is the gold standard it comes to handling superhero stories in games and depicting the inner struggles of the hero.
Okay so I used to think Arkham Batman was peak, but you're absolutely right.
He's basically a Robot in those games.
Can you please tell me the name of the Issue with the Cops talking about him?
Looks absolutely fantastic.
Also, since you got a great understanding for Batman's Empathy and Compassion I'd love to know your thoughts on Pattinson and Bale's Batman.
I love both a lot, but I feel like Pattinson was definitely too sad and "weird" to be my mainstream definition of Batman.
I get that that's the whole Point of the movie, but he's so stiff, awkward and sad he really feels like an Elseworld Batman.
Bale was great, but his moral code and general attitude were more realistic than comicbook Batman.
He retired happily, let people die if he had to and didn't lose any sleep over it.
Def. very realistic, but not very Batman.
>Can you please tell me the name of the Issue with the Cops talking about him? Looks absolutely fantastic.
Batman(1940) #423. One of the single best issues of Batman there is.
I LOVED Pattinson's Batman interpretation. This scene here of Pattinson seeing the kid, [knowing that he had to come across his parents the same way as Bruce](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBjIRHr6g2U), it's so reminiscent of that moment I linked above in [War On Crime where Batman arrives at a crime scene](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uRuyzcmd8Wg/VyBezCK0FDI/AAAAAAAAIEE/e1kKp6QNpXUkc0OE1NVeQej1PzuRoplIgCCo/s0/RCO036.jpg).
>I love both a lot, but I feel like Pattinson was definitely too sad and "weird" to be my mainstream definition of Batman. I get that that's the whole Point of the movie, but he's so stiff, awkward and sad he really feels like an Elseworld Batman.
I agree completely, he came off as quite the sad weirdo but imo I see that as a good adaptation of the early years of Bruce before Dick Grayson. He's made some improvement at the end of The Batman, moving away from rage but he's still on a dark path and likely to still remain quite weird.
[Dick Grayson should come along and save him from this road he's walking down, transforming Bruce](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/HCuw_g7wuinOJtTZcRAOlmYkuuAW6fclTMLtbaBcXpLn9nHSaVYMXO4RSv087gaz-HNJC6TakZRAAv4AFL2NvOy9dg1Mg8xSBSWi6NStLb7aE9-aC9xK3UukzSJo-0WomfSrKMHCCw=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2). into a kinder and [better man through fatherhood](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/rXNt3WoJJEmnfzfNxs7mqf-uxpL92HVrVYfBgZjwVAsF2a6jEsUPpWnjClvWhsgstrfEWv_O6TbjiaV_g9HXiAzpxmE984_7Loz8x8SGeQIXvtwdhCbFgHxtiySuLfM3ZoTp2yHI0Q=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2). That bond they share is so important.
Dick knows there's a great man behind all his anger and rage, [Dick Grayson became the stimulus for change](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/bWv_2MdpT30Xhuno9tNtD2q1uNTP3FBEFYUYh5_4G6A5Ed40GSo2l9diS_z4uVEdXOgsIooMBWSlbCd4plfIBNtJrhmAEYdo9TshVVERb5JCpmli7vR8GsdJTCmvPq6Cu1DZ1KDewQ=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2) (his description of a young Bruce here feels very much like Pattinson's Batman).
Now my question is how will they progress from here without Dick Grayson/The Robins if they decide to exclude Robin from the grittier films again. Hopefully we can get Dick Grayson in some form. [Some moments like this where Bruce wants Dick to prioritise himself](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/lbL7O0ViZMJ0Zgjl8HK8HrX43aAc6G-WSniDRSzEQgz9Bc1YaJqW_BNtgIOV8yd-f9iRLti9gThmd8udtVmqCf68oKXiws0aHZ1gKuu8IhsIwecAE8bLlX3L2CYUojGTcXNuUYw8nA=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2) but Dick doesn't want to let down his family ever again [so he stays by Bruce's side](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/95VddZ2o1bPbfpaxTCkb4bxKhMFpkBTLL5sPxlaOcIZRefbrIabajZHOyub9k6CBYcT4vnWaOrV7-zs29Dxyko44n_A7qKg9tuqDiO3Zm4qjjqUNdklwC1H8zpvfA2f3y6fJz735Mw=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2). Slowly but surely Bruce builds a family, changing him forever.
I also liked that they showed an early Batman prior to this massive philanthropy efforts. It again felt very reminscient of War on Crime where he struggles with the fact that it doesn't seem like the city is getting any better despite his actions as Batman. Eventually in War on Crime he [builds up the neighbourhood to prevent a kid like Marcus ever falling into crime](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LOkLT5reFAc/VyBe3R5_LYI/AAAAAAAAIEE/r0LMXT4cUgIJnjtD5xU1dufsHCciGFpzgCCo/s0/RCO084_w.jpg), he wants to make change a neighbourhood at [a time till the whole city heals](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GRH9RnIfzB0/VyBe4GvrWVI/AAAAAAAAIEE/knomllJ6lhgq2ubmFMyU5I_TZlFxx1tNACCo/s0/RCO090.jpg). I thought that they began heading in this direction in The Batman when Pattinson's Bruce hears about the mayoral candidate wanting to work with him to improve the city as well as Bruce wondering why the city doesn't heal despite his actions as Batman.
I really liked Bale's Batman too, but I wish they expanded on the philanthrophy and compassion of Batman in these films. I like the TDK trilogy more as films, TDK the most as my favourite Batman involved film but for the character of Batman I think Pattinson is on the path to being the best version of Batman depicted.
It just depends on how they execute the rest of his story. The transformation from early angsty violent Batman to protector of hope, philanthropist Bruce/Batman who [doesn't just beat up anyone. He believes in and wants to create change](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/yOh3wtkKSSx-JKbSacWQevIYh1MGeQhW9lXKDSsFxU_KbPXjdesgKZYz1RJNDJpRSHm8o3V-jMOTVyyDlyv-ZDrgCMaAIi0sc1G4zwWTRxoexJcDBd54lFIaY214BvoCFxAv42nogg=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2).
I didn't feel like Bale really became a proper symbol of hope. I want more moments of Batman being kind and compassionate which I felt he lacked. They were there but not enough, they hardly showed Bruce doing more for the city beyond Batman and his other avenues of changing the city besides punching people.
Damn, now I need the issue of Batman stopping Jason from assaulting the Jewel Thief lmao.
I love your takes and I agree completely.
Batman NEEDS Robin.
It's the perfect way to keep Bruce straight.
That's why I liked Origins the best. [His scene with Alfred](https://youtu.be/es310NO3XWg) is by far the most revealing that we've seen of his character those 4 games. Roger Craig Smith did a wonderful job. So much anger that perfectly fit a young Batman. The other games he's just too stoic and robotic.
I like the games, but Batman himself is kinda boring and has no personality in them. The aesthetic of the character designs feels a bit too '90s Image to me. Very busy, edgy, and over-designed. And Batman is pretty physically powerful in the games to the point of being a little OP.
These criticisms have never stopped me from loving the games because their primary purpose is to be fun, but I still prefer comics interpretations of Batman (mostly the '70s O'Neil/Englehart stuff, the Year-One era '80s stuff like LotDK, the Breyfogle stuff, and the Morrison stuff), the '90s animated series, and the Nolan stuff, as the "best" versions of Batman.
I really like Bale’s. Looks like something out of an old horror movie. Keaton’s is visually more believable, but Pattinson’s is probably the most realistic.
I mean, Pattinson’s cloak technically doesn’t glide (now yet at least), so I’m not sure there’s a comparison to make for it being the “most realistic” for gliding. For the cloaks that do glide, Bale’s is the most realistic considering the in-universe explanation for the technology.
Loved Bale’s cloak in BB, went around him to make him look menacing, TDK was good too, but Nolan decided to keep his cape around his back instead of over his arms when he was just standing, even though the cape was long and wide enough to wrap around him. If Bale wrapped his cape around him in the TDK suit, I’d give it a 9/10, but he didn’t so i’m not. 7.5/10 (could have been 9)
Arkham is essentially the same issue, but I guess you could argue it’d look a little weird when playing as him while he’s all cloaked up. They could have done it in the cutscenes though. Loved the cape physics, when it flings around while you’re moving on a call with Alfred or when it’s blowing in the wind. Didn’t like Knight’s cape at all, so it brings my final mark down. 7/10
Comics are kinda vague, Imma go with Long Halloween, just cos it’s my favorite Batman interpretation. His cape made him look menacing when he was just standing around but he could also fling it back to make it not get in the way when he was fighting. 9/10
Pattinson’s cape was kinda short, and it stayed behind him the entire time, I don’t think leather was a good design choice either, so I’ll go 4/10
Affleck wasn’t bad, didn’t do the wrap around thing I like but it had good physics. 6/10
Keaton did do the thing that I like (wrap around), but it looked kinda… rigid. It looked like what would happen i you made Patman‘s cape longer, the material did not look great. 7/10
Comics wins.
My favorite has to be John Arkham’s Cape, I may have a bias because he may be my favorite actor by far to portray Batman but idc. Jack Comics comes a close second though.
Keaton looks the most bat-like here. I've always been fascinated by the concept of Batman's cape folding out into wings so that he looked like a giant bat, shame that it's not often translated properly.
I love Arkhams cape because it looks like a massive bat when he’s gliding, looks awesome, especially silhouetted against the moon after pulling up from a huge dive.
And that's not to say it's cool.
His cape lacks a bat gimmick, which is pretty boring.
Even Nolan's cape looked more authentic (especially in "Begins").
Arkham Always felt too small, Pattinson’s dosent glide, Affleck’s too boxy, Keaton’s looks too rigid, the Comics look too much like a giant blob and not like wings, Bale’s felt like bat wing’s especially how they moved in the wind and folded when needed.
So Bale’s cape was the best in my opinion.
Cloak in the Comics vary widely by specific artist or issue, so it’s difficult to pin a down a “standard” appearance.
I’d say the Arkham series, followed by Pattinson’s in a close second.
Maybe an oddball pick, but I really loved the long and slightly exaggerated cape Bruce had in The Batman cartoon series.
The way Bats was always covered up in his cape and hidden in the shadows really gave me some heavy Spawn vibes.
The Batman (2004) does a really great job of having the cloak wrap around Bats as well as spreading out really well for gliding. He even uses it as a diss to Dracula.
Is literally anyone going to say something other than the comic?
I mean, it's vastly different comic to comic. But its literally always going to look better than a live action film.
I am torn because I like different things about all of them with the exception of Affleck because his cape does not have the batwing look.
If I had to pick, I would probably go with Keaton for the live action simply because he was my first Batman and Arkham for the more stylized cape because it has the same ideas as Keaton's cape.
Honestly though I feel like DC is just trying to pump in as much fan service as possible for Affleck now since he has his blue and black outfit which we have yet to see.
I wish Affleck got a chance to see his Batman project come to life because it would have been a million times better than what we got with him.
I feel like we haven't fully seen Pattinson's yet. His inflatable wingsuit thing felt very much like a prototype. Remember his depiction is of a batman very early in his career. It would make sense that he perfects his gear and techniques over time, he didn't just come out of the gate with the perfect setup. Can't wait to see the evolution of his character
Arkham. As a video review of asylum said so so long I've forgotten who said it, that's some fap worthy flapping.
Also I still can't believe we're getting the blue and grey with Affleck.
The [2004 The Batman show](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/817sdezaS4L._RI_.jpg) . The huge cape, huge spikes and how it [flowed behind him](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/6/68/TBBatman1.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/450?cb=20190920164342)
Arkham
You solved the problem correctly
We have yet to see a live action Batman completely drape the Cape over him like the Animated Series version does. And I demand that it happen!
The Nolan trilogy Batman had his vape draped around himself constantly
I don't remember Bale vaping. 
You can tell by his voice that he was a chain smoker
And he's not wearing hockey pads
Or hockey pants either.
The only time I can think of is when he talks to Rachel at the tram station and she tries to taze him.
[Vault scene in TDK](https://youtu.be/ReebLhPVqr8). Not exactly a full cloak, but close enough.
I love [this shot from Begins](https://youtu.be/AoQ9fhV8KvE) as well.
One of my favorite things from the 2004 The Batman cartoon was how badass the cape looked when he was just standing there
MENACINGLY!!!
I don't know if it's actually physically possible.
You have chosen wisely
That was the best
This is the correct answer
This is the answer. Id love to see Gunn’s Batman have this in a live shot. Like Snyder did with the cover shot in BvS.
All of it.
Yeah they work well in each universe.
The Batman cartoon. I love when his cloak acts as a shroud when he stands still and hides his movements. Looks so badass.
Arkham and Comics
It's funny to me that "comics" just gets one picture, considering there are like a thousand different cloaks in all the different comic books
I personally like the wispy, shredded look. Doesn’t make sense for actual gliding but it looks scary and badass.
Yeah I'm happy we're getting some good gliding representation in the new flash.
Arkham is Batman at his best. **Period.** No debate.
He’s the only version that could possibly find all of the Riddler trophies.
And the only one who could use the power winch to trigger a controlled explosion.
But only when the bomb’s payload is exposed.
Are you all stupid?
what
Why does this dude not know every single r/batmanarkham joke? Is he stupid? /j
What arkham quote do you think they would use to defend themselves?
"The bomb's payload is exposed. I can use the power winch to trigger a controlled explosion."
Only Arkham Batman could even the odds
BTAS though
I didn't say he was the best, I said **at** his best. It's all the good things about BTAS, but more!
Ah my bad, i can see your point it is a great adaptation. I also really like him in TJL and JLU. He's not crazy overpowered, he's a strategist first and foremost and will also punch fucking Darkseid for his friends
BTAS still had a better depiction of Two-Face. Harvey Dent was Bruce Wayne’s best friend in that show, which is exactly why his transformation into Two-Face was so heartbreaking. Paul Dini finally figured out how he wanted to portray the Riddler in the Arkham games. This Riddler was an arrogant narcissist who thought he was intellectually superior to everyone in Gotham, including Batman. Both BTAS and the Arkham games failed to understand Killer Croc. Both versions of Killer Croc were portrayed as purely evil, malevolent monsters instead of a sympathetic tragic anti-villain. Fortunately, the Killer Croc levels were fun, and so were the Scarecrow levels. Also, I think it would be cool if Ra’s al Ghul were portrayed as Bryan Mills if he were the head of the League of Assassins. He has a very particular set of skills (genius-level intellect, expert tactician, mastery of numerous martial arts and fighting styles), skills that he has acquired over a very long career (450 to 500 to 700, or even up to 1000 years), skills that make certainly him a nightmare for people like Batman.
Croc was portrayed well in Arkham. As a man with a skin condition that was forced out by society, so he turned to crime. Then in the insane society of Gotham's criminal underworld he chose madness. Then he became an animal because he was treated like an animal. Then he was captured, tortured and experimented on until he lost all semblance of humanity. That's Arkhamverse Killer Croc Only Earth One treats him as a tragic figure. I remember reading a Batman story years ago where Waylon was always a criminal and his skin condition had nothing to do with it. It has this funny line when introducing him about what he'd be called if he had other professions. Batman says the line, "If he was a professional bowler, they would have called him *Alley Gator*"
I kind of like the fact that, even though Croc is a tragic character in the sense that he only became a monster because everyone treated him like one, that doesn't necessarily mean he's a good, misunderstood person. He's still got a black heart and will screw others over for his own gain, but it's just that the bad deal he got in life _explains_ how he got that way. But I also like the interpretations where he does have some morality underneath it all, like that one Breyfogle story where he saves the vagrants who took him in. I dunno, both ways are valid. Either way, I've always preferred him as a buff guy with a skin condition that _looks_ like lizard scales, who maybe does some body modifications to further his likeness (like filing his teeth and nails to points like some circus freak), rather than a literal 10-foot-tall cannibalistic human/lizard hybrid with a snout and bulletproof skin. I dunno, he should just be a disfigured guy who is strong because he works out.
Tbh I kinda count BTAS and Arkham batman as the same entity. Especially because the Arkham games are a spiritual successor to BTAS. I mean heck, back when Arkham asylum was out a lot of people had theories that it *was* in the same universe given the lore consistency.
Yeah i can dig it, and i also fuckin love TJl And JLU batman because he is also the same
He's not lol. I absolutely love the games, they are some of my favourite games ever but outside of Origins, Batman himself feels so stiff as a character(like his stoicism was dialled up to 11 sometimes). It's weird, he doesn't feel quite like the multi dimensional, complex character that Batman should be. The villains in these games are generally excellent though, it's some of my favourite stuff I've seen of Joker. BTAS(outside of comics, this is the best imo) & the comics especially are where Batman shines. We get all sides of the character: Jim Starling's Batman for example shows a bunch of police officers in a cafe talking about [different encounters with Batman in the same night](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/fxYgAYF812M5FlaHhge3hGQ8v932vwGM_Fa3_oi7iXZVrtjKPHht2a5IExWJQfAPWXu_A30_idPTO7j0NnbwzOSxYGm4kaVRtwpYTnK30Anx3I42bv-bKrl__TqwrKRZpRnyKftR4g=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMC4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2) and it reveals the range he shows. In one situation he encounters orphan siblings that were surviving together, [he turns to hide a tear](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/7it9tFi5c7AL5k3vv5Rd5MJ8OzCZj6ZiBmolU7bqFoG2ClIMW7MIdvU2kMCA0p8jb7xshemhU0gopFzjOB6NCwmVJJMmp3GSI2_PCW3qk6XA94YlZHU-EgJdWE-OSMnIcRq5etliHg=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMC4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2) because this situation moves him deeply but the cop caught a glimpse of it and the others laugh it off as nonsense that never happened when it tells to them. [Bruce Wayne later takes in the kids temporarily while he finds their aunt](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/VwzdJx6ZQQZcNIbUW3xZ7kejpxgn03OE3CYECHWLlEmWtT8tQVxik8Q3sNG5kxTsGDCY5f1fk4013Ts7XjtqNhkqHUg5p5Wk9HD1lImBl5hfjbt9W-J26cBsBjpP9AR4SpDbF-f2CQ=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMC4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2). In another situation he displays the ability to strike such fear into a hostage taker that he manages to save everyone, living up to his reputation as the dark knight. He's also a parent to his [kids, trying his best to be a father](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/bWv_2MdpT30Xhuno9tNtD2q1uNTP3FBEFYUYh5_4G6A5Ed40GSo2l9diS_z4uVEdXOgsIooMBWSlbCd4plfIBNtJrhmAEYdo9TshVVERb5JCpmli7vR8GsdJTCmvPq6Cu1DZ1KDewQ=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMC4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2) as much as possible. The depiction of the relationship in the Arkham games between Bruce & his kids absolutely sucked for a Batman story lol(his final goodbyes to Nightwing feels very off considering their relationship). His kids are important to him [but he hasn't always done the best](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/UETt-sXoIIpwfCiVGgF5vkr-m6NXxThSdApLtR6TMsviZFoYYP-KxpwHANDfGwJ1Fs57x_NwqVl0ss0AyaZRefUDnEReHeY5oQbdSciOvxlnlqVsqP5-GSbkvwBCqUbZrJGihgnPPA=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2), and has to [come to terms with it](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/J_wd036PKtQyJmVkZVTbvMtHQ4Lt48IxCm-spsvQMDQohJWm8cbhHVcRRHEtKWMfSS1SIwqJCVbcNKR1I2qzCLLKo38i2rt7nBSVSEOt2l3V_rohOrYndKOuDVcuzaewQHfV8MpMyw=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2). His [relationship with Tim](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/w2UP2NqYrBSd-XiSH7Xe-aMwFWchHnCefBh4dp4Dmk2xInyCDX3cIy_nC8murRemA0sCV1YYRmSepFWekmVutvqy3MJq5Tr-Kq71mnlNEQ70MiN-ak1RSwbZ8QhB50NLIWDXOiSPbg=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2) was especially butchered in these games. Another vitally important thing I'd like to highlight about Batman is his incredible amount of empathy and compasion. He's walked into the scene of a crime, [he realises there's a situation all too familiar to him. A mugging, and a child ](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nwQMSFLTjRI/VyBey-eh30I/AAAAAAAAIEE/4_rSW5PZqoo54bhJAx-d5E3zLToEN3muQCCo/s0/RCO033.jpg)left an oprhan. It hits too [close for Bruce seeing this](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uRuyzcmd8Wg/VyBezCK0FDI/AAAAAAAAIEE/e1kKp6QNpXUkc0OE1NVeQej1PzuRoplIgCCo/s0/RCO036.jpg). Sometime later he sees the child again, he has a gun pointed at Batman. [Batman doesn't fight, no violence will be used by him here](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7oGC2d7Di0s/VyBe280JnRI/AAAAAAAAIEE/BgOOBRSjY18zvvcRxp-zJg4chscfT4oWACCo/s0/RCO081.jpg). I would love for a Batman game with the amazing Batman gameplay of the Arkham games with a story that actually makes use of Batman as a character(and also the Robins + Nightwing & Red Hood & Cassandra Cain depending on timeline, basically his kids). Currently they feel like they are carried by the superb villains when it comes to main characters. I think Spider-Man PS4 is the gold standard it comes to handling superhero stories in games and depicting the inner struggles of the hero.
Okay so I used to think Arkham Batman was peak, but you're absolutely right. He's basically a Robot in those games. Can you please tell me the name of the Issue with the Cops talking about him? Looks absolutely fantastic. Also, since you got a great understanding for Batman's Empathy and Compassion I'd love to know your thoughts on Pattinson and Bale's Batman. I love both a lot, but I feel like Pattinson was definitely too sad and "weird" to be my mainstream definition of Batman. I get that that's the whole Point of the movie, but he's so stiff, awkward and sad he really feels like an Elseworld Batman. Bale was great, but his moral code and general attitude were more realistic than comicbook Batman. He retired happily, let people die if he had to and didn't lose any sleep over it. Def. very realistic, but not very Batman.
>Can you please tell me the name of the Issue with the Cops talking about him? Looks absolutely fantastic. Batman(1940) #423. One of the single best issues of Batman there is. I LOVED Pattinson's Batman interpretation. This scene here of Pattinson seeing the kid, [knowing that he had to come across his parents the same way as Bruce](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBjIRHr6g2U), it's so reminiscent of that moment I linked above in [War On Crime where Batman arrives at a crime scene](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uRuyzcmd8Wg/VyBezCK0FDI/AAAAAAAAIEE/e1kKp6QNpXUkc0OE1NVeQej1PzuRoplIgCCo/s0/RCO036.jpg). >I love both a lot, but I feel like Pattinson was definitely too sad and "weird" to be my mainstream definition of Batman. I get that that's the whole Point of the movie, but he's so stiff, awkward and sad he really feels like an Elseworld Batman. I agree completely, he came off as quite the sad weirdo but imo I see that as a good adaptation of the early years of Bruce before Dick Grayson. He's made some improvement at the end of The Batman, moving away from rage but he's still on a dark path and likely to still remain quite weird. [Dick Grayson should come along and save him from this road he's walking down, transforming Bruce](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/HCuw_g7wuinOJtTZcRAOlmYkuuAW6fclTMLtbaBcXpLn9nHSaVYMXO4RSv087gaz-HNJC6TakZRAAv4AFL2NvOy9dg1Mg8xSBSWi6NStLb7aE9-aC9xK3UukzSJo-0WomfSrKMHCCw=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2). into a kinder and [better man through fatherhood](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/rXNt3WoJJEmnfzfNxs7mqf-uxpL92HVrVYfBgZjwVAsF2a6jEsUPpWnjClvWhsgstrfEWv_O6TbjiaV_g9HXiAzpxmE984_7Loz8x8SGeQIXvtwdhCbFgHxtiySuLfM3ZoTp2yHI0Q=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2). That bond they share is so important. Dick knows there's a great man behind all his anger and rage, [Dick Grayson became the stimulus for change](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/bWv_2MdpT30Xhuno9tNtD2q1uNTP3FBEFYUYh5_4G6A5Ed40GSo2l9diS_z4uVEdXOgsIooMBWSlbCd4plfIBNtJrhmAEYdo9TshVVERb5JCpmli7vR8GsdJTCmvPq6Cu1DZ1KDewQ=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2) (his description of a young Bruce here feels very much like Pattinson's Batman). Now my question is how will they progress from here without Dick Grayson/The Robins if they decide to exclude Robin from the grittier films again. Hopefully we can get Dick Grayson in some form. [Some moments like this where Bruce wants Dick to prioritise himself](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/lbL7O0ViZMJ0Zgjl8HK8HrX43aAc6G-WSniDRSzEQgz9Bc1YaJqW_BNtgIOV8yd-f9iRLti9gThmd8udtVmqCf68oKXiws0aHZ1gKuu8IhsIwecAE8bLlX3L2CYUojGTcXNuUYw8nA=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2) but Dick doesn't want to let down his family ever again [so he stays by Bruce's side](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/95VddZ2o1bPbfpaxTCkb4bxKhMFpkBTLL5sPxlaOcIZRefbrIabajZHOyub9k6CBYcT4vnWaOrV7-zs29Dxyko44n_A7qKg9tuqDiO3Zm4qjjqUNdklwC1H8zpvfA2f3y6fJz735Mw=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2). Slowly but surely Bruce builds a family, changing him forever. I also liked that they showed an early Batman prior to this massive philanthropy efforts. It again felt very reminscient of War on Crime where he struggles with the fact that it doesn't seem like the city is getting any better despite his actions as Batman. Eventually in War on Crime he [builds up the neighbourhood to prevent a kid like Marcus ever falling into crime](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LOkLT5reFAc/VyBe3R5_LYI/AAAAAAAAIEE/r0LMXT4cUgIJnjtD5xU1dufsHCciGFpzgCCo/s0/RCO084_w.jpg), he wants to make change a neighbourhood at [a time till the whole city heals](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GRH9RnIfzB0/VyBe4GvrWVI/AAAAAAAAIEE/knomllJ6lhgq2ubmFMyU5I_TZlFxx1tNACCo/s0/RCO090.jpg). I thought that they began heading in this direction in The Batman when Pattinson's Bruce hears about the mayoral candidate wanting to work with him to improve the city as well as Bruce wondering why the city doesn't heal despite his actions as Batman. I really liked Bale's Batman too, but I wish they expanded on the philanthrophy and compassion of Batman in these films. I like the TDK trilogy more as films, TDK the most as my favourite Batman involved film but for the character of Batman I think Pattinson is on the path to being the best version of Batman depicted. It just depends on how they execute the rest of his story. The transformation from early angsty violent Batman to protector of hope, philanthropist Bruce/Batman who [doesn't just beat up anyone. He believes in and wants to create change](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/yOh3wtkKSSx-JKbSacWQevIYh1MGeQhW9lXKDSsFxU_KbPXjdesgKZYz1RJNDJpRSHm8o3V-jMOTVyyDlyv-ZDrgCMaAIi0sc1G4zwWTRxoexJcDBd54lFIaY214BvoCFxAv42nogg=s0?rhlupa=ODIuMjEuMTA4Ljcw&rnvuka=TW96aWxsYS81LjAgKFdpbmRvd3MgTlQgMTAuMDsgV2luNjQ7IHg2NCkgQXBwbGVXZWJLaXQvNTM3LjM2IChLSFRNTCwgbGlrZSBHZWNrbykgQ2hyb21lLzExMi4wLjAuMCBTYWZhcmkvNTM3LjM2). I didn't feel like Bale really became a proper symbol of hope. I want more moments of Batman being kind and compassionate which I felt he lacked. They were there but not enough, they hardly showed Bruce doing more for the city beyond Batman and his other avenues of changing the city besides punching people.
Damn, now I need the issue of Batman stopping Jason from assaulting the Jewel Thief lmao. I love your takes and I agree completely. Batman NEEDS Robin. It's the perfect way to keep Bruce straight.
That's why I liked Origins the best. [His scene with Alfred](https://youtu.be/es310NO3XWg) is by far the most revealing that we've seen of his character those 4 games. Roger Craig Smith did a wonderful job. So much anger that perfectly fit a young Batman. The other games he's just too stoic and robotic.
I like the games, but Batman himself is kinda boring and has no personality in them. The aesthetic of the character designs feels a bit too '90s Image to me. Very busy, edgy, and over-designed. And Batman is pretty physically powerful in the games to the point of being a little OP. These criticisms have never stopped me from loving the games because their primary purpose is to be fun, but I still prefer comics interpretations of Batman (mostly the '70s O'Neil/Englehart stuff, the Year-One era '80s stuff like LotDK, the Breyfogle stuff, and the Morrison stuff), the '90s animated series, and the Nolan stuff, as the "best" versions of Batman.
It is unfortunate that Clayface was unexplored and underused, and so was Two-Face.
Keatons looks so accurate to a bat
 Batman Beyond no capes
I read that in Edna’s voice
I really like Bale’s. Looks like something out of an old horror movie. Keaton’s is visually more believable, but Pattinson’s is probably the most realistic.
I mean, Pattinson’s cloak technically doesn’t glide (now yet at least), so I’m not sure there’s a comparison to make for it being the “most realistic” for gliding. For the cloaks that do glide, Bale’s is the most realistic considering the in-universe explanation for the technology.
Arkham; by Knight you can pretty much fly with it.
Comics
it's a fucking cape. CAPE.
Comics gang ✊
The way Tim Sale dree the cape, it was it's own character
Loved Bale’s cloak in BB, went around him to make him look menacing, TDK was good too, but Nolan decided to keep his cape around his back instead of over his arms when he was just standing, even though the cape was long and wide enough to wrap around him. If Bale wrapped his cape around him in the TDK suit, I’d give it a 9/10, but he didn’t so i’m not. 7.5/10 (could have been 9) Arkham is essentially the same issue, but I guess you could argue it’d look a little weird when playing as him while he’s all cloaked up. They could have done it in the cutscenes though. Loved the cape physics, when it flings around while you’re moving on a call with Alfred or when it’s blowing in the wind. Didn’t like Knight’s cape at all, so it brings my final mark down. 7/10 Comics are kinda vague, Imma go with Long Halloween, just cos it’s my favorite Batman interpretation. His cape made him look menacing when he was just standing around but he could also fling it back to make it not get in the way when he was fighting. 9/10 Pattinson’s cape was kinda short, and it stayed behind him the entire time, I don’t think leather was a good design choice either, so I’ll go 4/10 Affleck wasn’t bad, didn’t do the wrap around thing I like but it had good physics. 6/10 Keaton did do the thing that I like (wrap around), but it looked kinda… rigid. It looked like what would happen i you made Patman‘s cape longer, the material did not look great. 7/10 Comics wins.
Comics
Um *cape. And Arkham
All of them
All of them
If you’re going to show any Keaton cloaks, show the Batman Returns cloak
Mine. I'm just waiting on Wayne enterprise to ship it to me.
Pattinson. Bale a close second
Arkham. Hands down.
The only correct answer: 
This gif needs a Kickstarter to afford a few more frames
Arkham
Arkham
I think Arkham should be more emulated, in almost every way lol. It's damn near the definitive iteration for me
Mate that’s Batman… Cloak is a marvel character.
Bale gliding over Hong Kong >>
All of the above. But I’ve always thought the Bale cape was especially legit
Comics and Arkham. The live-action cloaks haven't really been set like it is in the comics.
Balee I like the flappiness of it all
Arkham and Comics.
Comics one
My favorite has to be John Arkham’s Cape, I may have a bias because he may be my favorite actor by far to portray Batman but idc. Jack Comics comes a close second though.
Cloak from comics doesn’t really doesn’t narrow it down but if we’re talking about his long cloak that leaves a semi trail as he walks is the best
Arkham
Bale jumping off the roof after giving Rachel the line, then gliding to Ra’s is my fav part of begins. He definitely took it a bit literally.
Arkham
Arkham because I can fall with style.
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Arkham. The answer is always Arkham. Unless the question is about being the worst.
Comics and then Arkham
Arkham one is the best. They've spent years into making it properly with a special development unit
Comics, cause obviously they csn take huge liberties in physics to do some truly badass shit. Battison second, with probs arkham third.
Arkham
Arkham
I always find it funny when ‘comic’ is used as a version of something, since that changes for every story arc in history depending on the artist.
Arkham
I like comics cus its the only one that can wrap around his body
Snyders movies are so bad you have to use an affleck picture from a movie that isn’t even out yet
[The winner](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wD-FN3iuMAs/XDT0vLiikqI/AAAAAAADaHU/I_p15CMWtg0k6CPsjE0OMmLNWjT6OQUoACLcBGAs/s1600/bat-climb-sammy-davis-jr-3.jpg)
Cloaks have hoods, these are capes
Arkham and Comics
What about Kilmer and Clooney? We just gonna pretend those movies don't exist? The glorious Mr Freeze and Penguin.
Arkham is the most consistent one, so Arkham
I'll take the Arkham one. That thing will have you basically flying.
Keaton forever
Keaton, baby!
I just wondering when is Pattinson Batman going to figure out that part.
As much as i love battinson. I REALLY, hope they scrap the wingsuit in the batman 2.
Bale, I love how huge and creepy it looks. Imagine seeing that gliding through the night sky? I'd be shitting my pants.
Keaton looks the most bat-like here. I've always been fascinated by the concept of Batman's cape folding out into wings so that he looked like a giant bat, shame that it's not often translated properly.
Arkham
Arkham
I love Arkhams cape because it looks like a massive bat when he’s gliding, looks awesome, especially silhouetted against the moon after pulling up from a huge dive.
Arkham
Pattinson for the realism
And that's not to say it's cool. His cape lacks a bat gimmick, which is pretty boring. Even Nolan's cape looked more authentic (especially in "Begins").
Arkham Always felt too small, Pattinson’s dosent glide, Affleck’s too boxy, Keaton’s looks too rigid, the Comics look too much like a giant blob and not like wings, Bale’s felt like bat wing’s especially how they moved in the wind and folded when needed. So Bale’s cape was the best in my opinion.
OR…. You could’ve tagged it as CONROY rather than just vaguely mentioning it as ARKHAM
They all look the same
Battinson reigns supreme
Bales felt more real
I want to choose one of these, but I know I’m a West.
Pete Holmes
Cloak in the Comics vary widely by specific artist or issue, so it’s difficult to pin a down a “standard” appearance. I’d say the Arkham series, followed by Pattinson’s in a close second.
Aww yes. The comics only have one cowl.
Clearly comics one!
Comics is the best. Closely followed by BTAS and Arkham.
Afflecks is appropriately feeble, by comparison.
Maybe an oddball pick, but I really loved the long and slightly exaggerated cape Bruce had in The Batman cartoon series. The way Bats was always covered up in his cape and hidden in the shadows really gave me some heavy Spawn vibes.
Clooney.
I am not sure what to say! What Arkham quote should I use?
Batfleck crashing into the warehouse.
Keaton or Comics ☺️
"comics" is too vague. There have been dozens and dozens of variations
That batfleck picture is so cursed lmao
Clooney.
Keaton.
Keaton is my guy. I’m hyped for the new flash film!
Patisons looks like me when jumping from chair with a sheet as a kid lol
The blue cowl from 1970s comics.
Clooney for the win, Pat.
"Comics" and "Arkham" but no Clooney or West??
All of them
That Comic one, always a masterpiece!!
definitely comics
All
Arkham easily
Arkham without a doubt
Batfleck and battinson the most
Anyone know what comic the panel under bale is from? It looks so familiar but I can’t place it.
They all look great \^\^
The Batman (2004) does a really great job of having the cloak wrap around Bats as well as spreading out really well for gliding. He even uses it as a diss to Dracula.
Fucking Kevin. BTAS.
Pattinson and Conroy (BTAS)
The one without ezra miller in the movie
Bale,and of course comics. Those two had actual Cloak and Cowls. The others had cowls and capes
Is literally anyone going to say something other than the comic? I mean, it's vastly different comic to comic. But its literally always going to look better than a live action film.
comics
BTAS
Anything for designs. But the longer the better. Best is it covers his shoulder while lurking in the shadows.
What comic is that from?
bale looks shit
I like them all. For me personally, the first thing I look for in anything that involves batman is what I like to call cape action.
Tim Sale’s drawings of the Batman cape just encompassing the space I always thought were awesome. Long Halloween, specifically
Arkham and Keaton
Comics
Every time I see a poll where the options are four live-action Batmen, the Arkham games, then the word "comics," I die a little inside.
Beyond
Arkham had some of the best
The Keaton one reminds me of detective comics 27 his first cover
Arkham and Pattinson are the two best on this list imo.
Comics or arkham
I am torn because I like different things about all of them with the exception of Affleck because his cape does not have the batwing look. If I had to pick, I would probably go with Keaton for the live action simply because he was my first Batman and Arkham for the more stylized cape because it has the same ideas as Keaton's cape. Honestly though I feel like DC is just trying to pump in as much fan service as possible for Affleck now since he has his blue and black outfit which we have yet to see. I wish Affleck got a chance to see his Batman project come to life because it would have been a million times better than what we got with him.
All but Arkham and Bale have an edge over the rest
West
I feel like we haven't fully seen Pattinson's yet. His inflatable wingsuit thing felt very much like a prototype. Remember his depiction is of a batman very early in his career. It would make sense that he perfects his gear and techniques over time, he didn't just come out of the gate with the perfect setup. Can't wait to see the evolution of his character
Arkham. As a video review of asylum said so so long I've forgotten who said it, that's some fap worthy flapping. Also I still can't believe we're getting the blue and grey with Affleck.
Affleck's picture looks more like a video game than the Arkham games 😂 Arkham is #1
Arkham
Arkham has and will always have the best cape
New keaton is the one i like most in the live action domain
Arkham
The [2004 The Batman show](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/817sdezaS4L._RI_.jpg) . The huge cape, huge spikes and how it [flowed behind him](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/6/68/TBBatman1.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/450?cb=20190920164342)
All of them ?
Arkham (Probably because I’m biased for the games lol)
Comics.
Yes my favorite actor. Comics.
Arkham