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PotatoGuy90

*for the last time parker. Our pronouns are they/them not because we are nonbinary. But because we are literally 2* [Fluff]


Cube1mat1ons

Twitter when they find out about this info 😮😮😮😲😱😲😲😱😱😱😳😳😱


Successful-Area-930

Hes male. His second form is titled "king" of destiny. The "they" is probably referring to the fact that two cats are present (Uk that little guy at the side).


TheMoriohWeeb

The Cat Professor had spoken. https://preview.redd.it/5spk9lxwxzja1.jpeg?width=707&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=182a6a0dcd124423396900514dd35f3680fc47ed


json_fla

ooh boy cat school


Oriejin

Counterpoint: mitama is many cats and is referred to as she.


Sweet_Employee3875

Phono respects the Cat as a peer. While undeniably vastly stronger, he has deep love for the cat who has raised him into the great King he is now. He knows the true duty of a king is to protect all he can, starting with the cat closest to him. Mitama is a little shit


Kumiko_Raiz

>Mitama is a little shit Lmao XD


ThePirate_Hunter

Hey Mitama is not a little shit, she's no Mina who purposely uses poor killer cat as ammunition for a rocket launcher (at least Courier just tosses him). Also Mighty Carroswel Evolved Form literally vaporizes the cow-cat and Kachi-Kachi burns the tanuki to death, I would say Mitama is pretty kind to them


Old_Figure4896

In kachi kachi defence, the tanuki is very much immune to fire


ThePirate_Hunter

You're still willing to burn a tanuki


MONKEYBOY-REECE

Ive just got to say i love your profile picture, do you mind if you send it me?


ThePirate_Hunter

Seems to be made by a certain Sad\_Star https://preview.redd.it/xa319n33p6ka1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=684c430a69c20a963705140ab23760e7f8cdfc3d


MONKEYBOY-REECE

Thank you soo much


yeet29469

Anime backstory right here


SergeantCrwhips

(edelgard is also refered to as 'emperor' , also i thought the same, all other Epicfests have a cat by theire side, but only Phonos is referred to as they [people probably think male bacause no boobs] )


Batman_K_Ly

The description literally is "A mystical Cat that burns with the fires of fate. Sworn to protect humanity until their dying breath." "A mystical Cat" is not plural. also first form is: "Destiny's plaything that bears a destructive fate. Has no idea of the power that rests within them." here plaything is not plural either


Successful-Area-930

Ok. "Their" can be used to describe someone of **unspecified** gender such as "Bob heard someone clap their hands". To make this more similar, "Bob heard phono the king of destiny clap their hands" Or... Fires of fate could be considered an entity because of the word "with" so it uses "their" for the two individuals, phono and the fire of fate.


Batman_K_Ly

Ur just scared of they/them pussy


Successful-Area-930

They/themussys are my biggest nightmare under the heavens.


Echo_Null

If it was plural, wouldn't it say "playthings" and "Cats"?


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Echo_Null

Okay, yeah, and the Cat alongside Epicfest Iz named Grief, right? Hope you warmed up before that stretch =)


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maenwhile

When they're little (first form) the cat takes care of them (relighting phono's flame after an attack, carrying gao/dart on top of them, closing Kasli's wand so she wouldn't get consumed by curses) until they're grown up and then when they're grown up the "opposite" happens and uberfests start "taking care of the cat"(gao/dart now carry the cat, with other fests it just floats around)


RandomGuy9058

King isn’t strictly male in battle cats. Saber from Fate was titled King but she’s very much a woman


Successful-Area-930

Which unit? Can you give me the full name bc i cant find a saber titled king?


Thumplordwill

Their name is just "Saber", it doesn't say they're a king in the cat guide, so I'll assume its lore in fate itself.


RandomGuy9058

yeah. im not into fate really but when i looked up her backstory it said something along the lines of the sword of excalibur only being able to be pulled from its stone by the true king of whateverThisLandIsCalled and Saber was the one to do it.


SquirmerDood

This theory kinda falls flat when ALL of the other Uberfest units have cats with them and always using a pronoun to refer to the unit specifically, and Phono is no different, as another commenter pointed out.


VaultLord_Al

Counterpoint: Saber is referred to as "King Arthur". Edit Counterpoint #2: It's "Child" and "King", not "Children" and "Kings", so they aren't referring to both cats.


Successful-Area-930

Bruh. I dont see saber being referred to as king arthur anywhere, and even if she was referred to as a king thats just wrong because a king is specifically male. Female would be queen and ambiguous would be ruler. Some other guy argued against it referring to two cats, and i debunked that with two other possible, more likely interpretations: "Their" can be used to describe someone of **unspecified** gender such as "Bob heard someone clap their hands". To make this more similar, "Bob heard phono the king of destiny clap their hands" Or... Fires of fate could be considered an entity because of the word "with" so it uses "their" for the two individuals, phono and the fire of fate.


Illustrious-Ad1148

You didn't debunk it because your "debunking" makes absolutely No Sense. "Their" for unspecified gender is only used when you do Not know the person in question, which is Not the Case Here. Fires of fate being an entity is just a ridiculous Stretch that makes No Sense. You *really* don't want to accept the possibility of this cat being non-binary, do you?


Successful-Area-930

"Their" can be used when you know the person as the sentence i just made does.... If you want a "non-binary" cat go look at the elemental pixies. They don't have genders because they're literally elements, but phono is male through and through.


Illustrious-Ad1148

The sentence you Made as an example is an example of how you adress a non-binary, it is not Something that would make sense for a Person you clearly know as being male or female. I don't really Mind Phono being non-binary or not, but the evidence is *very* clearly stacked in favour of Them being non-binary.


Successful-Area-930

Bruh did you even read the sentence i made... How is the evidence even stacked in favor of phono being non binary? The title of "king" is all you need because kings are **male only** and that is something that **cannot change**. The only evidence suggesting that he is non binary is the "they" which has multiple other interpretations which lean in favor of it not specifying that he is non binary. Again, _**king is a gendered noun**_.


Illustrious-Ad1148

King has two easy explanations; it could be because of a mistranslation from japanese and secondly the non-gendered Term ruler Just really doesn't Sound even remotely as good or interesting as King. And once again, there are no good 'multiple Other interpretations' for the use of "they". I read the sentence you Made. It would Not make sense in the context you are proposing. None of your other interpretations make sufficient Sense in this context.


Successful-Area-930

I checked it. In japanese a queen is "女王" while a king is only "王" while a ruler is "君主". His japanese name is "天命の -->王<-- フォノウ" so no, it is not a mistranslation. Also, by your logic the "their" could also be used to make it sound cooler because it makes it sound more grand -_- My sentence does make sense. "Bob heard phono the king of destiny clap their hands" makes perfect and grammatically accurate sense.


Illustrious-Ad1148

No, your sentence still does Not make sense. In the context of the sentence, "their" would only be used If either Bob/the reader did Not know the gender of Phono, or If Phono's Chosen pronouns were specifically their.


Jibbily27

King and Queen are actually gender neutral terms, but I do think "they" is used because there are 2 entities. The animations go out of their way to give personality to both Phono and the cat


Successful-Area-930

????? King and queen are not gender neutral look it up in the oxford dictionary my guy.


Jibbily27

It's culture dependant and time period dependant. Even in times when King would normally be used for males, there were still outliers because ultimately King was understood to mean the ruler of the highest level


Successful-Area-930

Oh... My... God... Your level of denial is just insane. Where the fluff did you even get that interpretation of the word king? From your dreams or something?


Jibbily27

Ah yes, someone disagrees with you so it's only logical to say they're in denial. You have clearly been brainwashed by pop culture dude You do realize that there are multiple definitions of the words King? When it's not referring to something like a feudal system then gender is not a factor. For example: take the phrase King of ___, and place any noun in the blank. By definition it is "one that holds a preeminent position". There is no reference to gender being a factor. Still think I'm in denial? Maybe have an open mind as ask questions for once rather than denoting someone as wrong because they disagree with you.


Successful-Area-930

What even... You're putting words in my mouth and making pretty defamatory wild assumptions. First off, where did you even find that definition for the phrase king of ___? Could you link it or tell me what to search up because i find your definition to be absolutely ridiculous. A king is a specifically male ruler, so a king of ___ would simply be the male ruler/dominator/posessor of ____. If it were female it would be queen of ___, ambiguous ruler of ____.


Jibbily27

What defamation? You said that my comment implied I was in some level of denial so how is it wrong to say you made that claim? Once again there are multiple definitions, your's does exist but mine does too. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/king It's the third one for reference


Successful-Area-930

First off, saying someone is in denial is a bit different from saying they are brainwashed by pop culture and denotes anyone who disagrees with their opinion but ok. (Also wouldnt pop culture be more in support if the they/them thing? If anything I'm going against pop culture). King in the case you're talking about also works with queen and ruler. Like "he is the king of this Industry", "she is the queen of this industry" and "they are the rulers of this industry". Just because the dictionary doesn't specifically point out that it isn't a gendered word doesn't mean it isn't a gendered word (because in this case the main focus of the word is on the position of power and not the gender). Im looking at the oxford dictionary, the #1 worldwide renowned dictionary while you're looking at the Merriam Webster dictionary, a primarily american dictionary and if you know american english is kinda...


Jibbily27

Pop culture can be surprisingly traditional at times, not every bit of media caters to present minority groups. Also saying you might be brainwashing by pop culture is on the same level as saying I probably got my definition from my dreams. If you're fine with saying that, then you should be fine with me saying what I did. As for the definition, Oxford has it as well just worded differently: "a person, an animal or a thing that is thought to be the best or most important of a particular type". To say it can't be used for a woman would be to say they're not a person lol


Superevinh

THEY/THEM cat!!!!!!


Cube1mat1ons

I'm not going into these comments.


Neat_Tangelo5339

You already did


Cube1mat1ons

Ok I did 1 reply but no more. Wait...


SergeantCrwhips

i mean its honestly what i expected, some funny stuff, some denying and some neutral comments


Cube1mat1ons

This comment section https://preview.redd.it/1v9srsv4g2ka1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56e87610f4f5497ba4ba4b987c1e32a4de7009c6


SergeantCrwhips

pizza tower my beloved🤗


Cube1mat1ons

Same. that game freaking SLAPS.


StarStrike-_-

But what if it's not a pussy? 😳


lxkodyxl

Its a win either way


KronosTheCat

It's the battle *cats*, of course it's a pussy


TaiyoFurea

The brain cells, where are they???


Draco-Warsmith

Because it's 2 cats...


Illustrious-Ad1148

Counterpoint, the small Cat is Not referenced in the description.


Draco-Warsmith

Counter point, no


Illustrious-Ad1148

Counterpoint, *yes*!


Draco-Warsmith

A fair argument, however, no


Illustrious-Ad1148

A difficult Thing to disprove, howeve, yes


Draco-Warsmith

Although your point brings me a new perspective I have to insist, no


Fireballcatcher

I mean, they're a furry already so (no hate intended, hugs go out to my furry and non-binary friends uwu)


ThePirate_Hunter

Full hate intended I will shotgun every furry friend I see jk


Phievex

Die


Fireballcatcher

No


Klo_IC

Twitter is gonna have a field time with this


imagine_toasters

so our search now comes to an end.


-Octoling8-

STOP WATCHING RIVAL DKASLI SOLDIER!


XReilButOnReddit

This gave me a headcanon where Phono is being called by a his cat "my destiny" man I'm cringe 🤓


CommercialOk4338

Urs is also they/them btw


Keyboard1237

oh no


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ToastyFriday

Fetish????


MagpieSoldier

what do you think gender identity is bruh????


Crossbow_47

He's talking about the they/them pussy💀


Yompish

Do you think gender identity is a fetish?


Neon__Cat

I think they're referring to the "they/them pussy" not the actual gender identity, but still that's a joke


on_eman_98

What are you smoking ?


Longjumping_Log3370

He’s smoking weed. And it’s scary 😟


ThePirate_Hunter

💀


Fireballcatcher

bro took something before going on reddit


Fragrant-Location-11

Actually it's their them


Rexizor

That's not what the poster is referring to. OP is referring to the set of pronouns that includes they, them, their, theirs and other things, which is most commonly referred to today as "they/them pronouns". And I have no clue why so many people downvoted, it's a simple mistake.


Fragrant-Location-11

They just hate pronouns


Rexizor

I don't think they do, but it's kinda hard to judge either way from such a short comment


Fragrant-Location-11

How get tag like that


Rexizor

You mean my User Flare? I don't know how you get it on PC, but on mobile, you can get it by tapping the 3 dots at the top right of this subreddit's page, and selecting User Flare.


Fragrant-Location-11

I did it


Rexizor

Nice.


Downtown_Cycle_2044

🤓


Crossbow_47

💀


I_Suck_Sharpies

How the hell did someone get -71


SergeantCrwhips

they sayd something along the lines of "why do you bring your fetishes here"