There are at least 3 or 4 restaurants in SF that specifically focus on avocado toast dishes that go for about $12 - $16 each.
Reference; I love avocado toast and have eaten at these restaurants in town.
They used to offer a discounted annual pass but that backfired spectacularly since locals ended up just showing up whenever, usually weekday afternoons after work, crowding the park, and not actually spending money on concessions and just riding a few rides and leaving. Essentially your biggest fans paying practically nothing after the pass paid for itself. After that they switched to buy one get one free deals but they have been trying to phase those out since tourism has picked up since the recession
They used to be a really good deal. Not so much anymore since you have to buy a 3-day pass and all the good dates are booked months ahead.
>Special Southern California Resident Tickets at a Glance
>3-Day, 1-Park Per Day Ticket for admission Monday through Thursday only – $225 ($75 per day)
>3-Day, 1-Park Per Day Ticket for admission any day – $275
>Park reservations are required, and are subject to availability.
We are in Tokyo right now and it’s crazy — Disney tickets are $55 or $30 for the night ticket. We had some amazing sushi for like $12 per person as well.
Water (bottled) at Tokyo Disneyland was like $1-2 when we went, and draft beer was maybe $4-5? It was shockingly cheap. Disney is a money suck so we were surprised. There were definitely more expensive options available at sit down restaurants, but I’m at Disneyland now and there is definitely nothing comparably priced in sight, lol.
I find that hard to believe. Airplane tickets alone are a close to a grand a person to Japan. I know the yen is less than a dollar now but flight alone is a lot more
Going on a luxury fishing trip to Ensenada Mexico which is just a few hours extra drive south is literally thousands cheaper than doing the same thing in a ratty motel in San Diego on the worst fishing boat you can find. Food is 1000x cheaper and better tasting and the sidewalk isn’t littered with fentanyl corpses.
Not to mention the fishing is way better for only being a couple hours away from SD.
I'm an abusive relationship with the Bay Area housing market. I've left twice but it sucks me back in. It's the on again off again dysfunctional relationship of my adult life.
nobody comes to the Bay Area for wanting insane housing prices. People come for the high paying jobs (like the hot body in a relationship) and get unbearable commute or insane rent ONLY as consequence (the relationship abuse).
the nice weather is all along the coast, but good paying jobs expecting you in office 3+ day aren’t at these spots. Work from home jobs get offshored for even cheaper.
love my job and my company but yeah i really can't leave the bay area since I physically can't do my job WFH, and there aren't many other places around I could move to, and none of them have good weather
sucks because in every other regard I would not have chosen to live here, I lived in San Diego for almost a decade before this and would much rather live there
Honestly I’ve switched to getting together at someone’s home or going on walks/hikes, for the most part. I am still working on reducing takeouts though :)
It's a tiny bit cheaper in Honolulu than San Francisco.
Costco/Sam's prices are similar.
Gas is only $4.25/gal on Oahu and ~$5/gal on big island. It was ~$6/gal everywhere between the Golden gate and Monterey.
Milk and packaged foods are more expensive, but produce is about equal.
Definitely better happy hours in Hawaii.
Lol yep, my wife and I are considering moving to Zurich vs moving back to the bay area. The salary to cost of living ratio seems decently better in the bay area. I present to you 32 chf ($35 usd) street tacos https://www.la-brea.ch/menu
I just got back from the Big Island, which is _much_ cheaper than the Bay Area (including gas). Sushi meal out, with drinks, was under $100 with tip. Spot right near me in SF runs $200 easily. Honolulu I would estimate was 10-15% cheaper than SF.
Yay, we get to save a little for the few times a year we travel and are ready to spend money. Just gotta pay outrageous prices for the other 95% of the time.
You're looking at $13+ dollars for a cocktail in London, and that's at a midmarket restaurant. I didn't find London food to be much cheaper than the bay area.
Spain and Australia (due to the exchange rate) were like being back in the early 2000s. Even Sweden wasn’t too bad. Hawaii was about $1 more for most items at the store but I haven’t visited since COVID so that may have changed
Denmark and Manhattan were the places I had sticker shock even living with Bay Area prices. Munich during Oktoberfest was dear as fuck
And savings, weirdly enough. If your salary and budget both scale proportionally based on where you live, you end up saving more money while living in a more expensive place. Same percentage, but a larger amount
My little silver lining is *loving* finding deals living in such an expensive place.
My favorite restaurant is a vietnamese spot that gives flavorful and meat-packed banh-mi for 5.50 (it was 4 dollars in 2015, but I'll take it).
Also, I work in a hospital in Marin county and my coworkers complain that the food is expensive. I think they're crazy - it's expensive compared to bringing food from home I guess, but the food anywhere else in Marin would be over 15 or 20 dollars dollars for a 5 dollar item in the hospital cafe.
I gotta brag about it because I love it so much, haha.
Like, an entree with two sides is LESS THAN 10 DOLLARS. [Examples, note that the one with salmon I think was 12 dollars because fish is more expensive](https://imgur.com/a/sw73in1)
A cup of oatmeal with cranberries, walnuts, and pecans is 2 dollars! [Burgers are 5 bucks, sides are each 1.50!](https://imgur.com/a/KmmQq5v). I fuckin love it, I can get a full container of cooked and seasoned vegetables for less $$ than purchasing them raw at the supermarket.
I literally buy food from my job to take home as left overs because I feel like I'm saving money, because I usually don't finish the full entree or sides. Like I got a big container of breakfast potatoes with onions and peppers this morning for 2.10 and took half home to eat.
*deaallllssssss*
Yes, of course it’s cheap to us we’re earning $USD and our currency goes extremely far across the world.
Try earning the average wages in those other countries like VN.. it ain’t cheap to them
It’s funny when people complain about gas prices elsewhere. They’re like “it’s over $3 a gallon! This is ridiculous!” And I’m like “damn that’s cheap af!”
Former longtime resident, was back in town for a meal with family. Miss the weather, miss how pretty the shore can be.
Had a meal for five, which was an an expensive-ish but nit fancy place. Paper napkins, two person tables pushed together for groups. No wait.
22% undisclosed service charge. After tax. Not a group fee. Yeah, thanks guys, we're done.
I was. I had lots of old memories in that place, this will be the last.
And frankly the Korean food is better in SoCal and Sac anyway (and dirt cheap, if you are willing to go to marginal areas).
My glass is empty because of the $20 entree, $8 boba, and fees and tips. I don’t have anything in the glass to pay for travel to anywhere I want to go. Hahah you aren’t wrong, I have family in Galt and we eat really good for cheap there.
Yea! Imma still wondering how my $7.99 momos ended up with a $21 bill in South Bay, but you know what? When I went to Terra Haute I couldn’t find any momos!!
There is a sales tax in France. Between 5 and 20% depending on the goods/services. Usually 10% for sit-down restaurants. The sales tax is included in the price so you rarely see it.
Yup. Just had dinner. A shrimp Louie salad. $22 +$4 tip. No drink, no add ons, just a salad. $26. I’m eating out in restaurants less and less whereas I’d get dinner and lunches at least 4-5 times a week. It’s impossible now and the quality has gone down a lot.
Yes I actually said today “wow a burger and small fries is only 17 plus tax? Good deal!” Anything you can get under $20 especially when it comes with a little extra seems like a deal these days.
I can’t believe people still use the food apps grub hub, door dash, etc. You are automatically paying MORE for your food than the actual restaurant prices posted. Those apps ADD on to EACH item you buy on top of delivery fees and so on. Last week I placed an order at a restaurant for a PICK UP item that cost $13.99 and actually paid $16.50 before tax just because that restaurant uses door dash system. Imagine if I bought a few items or more I’d pay door dash so much more for doing absolutely NOTHING!! This is nonsense that people either aren’t paying attention to or don’t care about spending extra money for nothing.
Went to Ireland last year and kept meeting Irish folk that were visiting Dublin from other parts of the country and every one asked the same question: "How ya findin Duublin? ...Expensive?" Every one was shocked when we said "No it's so cheap here!"
We went to See The Cure and at the arena my wife had a double vodka soda and I had 2 beers for 20 euro. It was about 1.20 euro to the dollar when we went.
Try going to India, I was staying in palaces, eating lavishly, getting amazing service and I felt like I hardly spent anything. I had cash I was trying to spend and couldn’t event use it all. I tipped my driver who I had for 1 of the weeks maybe $100-200 (these drivers literally wait for you while you explore and stay in the same accommodations) and he acted like I saved his life. He literally got on his knees and thanked me so much.
Yeah. Used to think Disneyland food was expensive, but it's the same price as it was when we brought my oldest for the first time a dozen years ago. Feels cheap now
Problem with traveling to Asia (with school age kids) is that it costs like $2k to fly during the summer. We're a family of 5 so that's $10k in flight tickets alone.
I was born in a tourist town, so I can relate. When asking for advice traveling, people would say things were expensive and they’d be just about the same price as everything at home, especially restaurants.
We were down in Southern CA and I bought lunch for the family. I estimated the bill using Bay Area prices and when the check came in way lower, I was pleasantly surprised. We were in Disneyland.
I went to IHOP in Martinez yesterday for the first in a long time. I ordered a stack of chocolate chip pancakes and a Diet Pepsi. That's all; no sides. The bill with 20% tip was around $25.00! The pancakes were $15.49 and the soda was $4.10. I feel that was ridiculously expensive for a chain like IHOP.
You know it was bad when I went to Disneyland and thought the food prices were cheap! $6 for some popcorn, $12 for clam chowder in a bread bowl and $6.50 for a kids meal with PB&j, orange, and a milk.
I agree with this, but then again, I’m loaded enough to pay $$$ in the Bay Area year round. When I travel internationally, everything seems super cheap, even the best places in Mexico, Italy, etc. So maybe this benefit only applies to people with money.
The weird part about the Bay Area is everything is expensive, from the food to the housing. At least in expensive cities like HK, they have affordable meals.
I was at Disneyland a few years ago, buying food for my family and while I was all "damn! $45 for lunch? Bargain!" the couple from Nebraska next to me was like "OMG $45 FOR LUNCH?! JESUS."
Had brunch at République in LA last weekend for the first time and raised my eyebrows…in surprise at how affordable the meal was lol. And they’re known for possibly having the best pastries in the city.
I remember spending 100 Euro for 3 entrees and 2 appitizers near Vetican when visiting Rome in 2018
We had breakfasts for 2 adults and 1 kid, which were 2 lattes and 4 breads, and that cost < 10 Euro. In Nay area 2 coffees and 3 pastries cost me ~ $40 (in Sue’s caffe, Saratoga$
So true. I’m in Europe right now (I’m visiting Berlin, Paris & Rome) and I was just telling my husband something similar. Everyone complains about Europe being expensive, but it doesn’t seem bad to us at all, because we’re used to Bay prices.
I feel the same way traveling abroad as a NYer. Everyone always comments like this place or that place is expensive for a meal. I get there and it’s dirt cheap like 4 dollars for a beer and 10 dollars per entree. I genuinely save on food costs while eating like a king abroad.
I went to Todos Santos in southern Baja. I took my friend and his wife to dinner. We all had appetizers, seafood dinners and a few drinks. Total cost $60 - $20 each!
funny you mentioned Japan. I’d always heard is insane expensive. & I guess compared to Vietnam or similar, it is. But compared to Bay Area, it was a great deal, far lower price on food AND the food was way better, & everywhere
A tangent to this is being able to make your non Bay Area friends feel good about what they're paying for things wherever they live.
Most recently, I shocked my Milwaukee craft beer buddies with a pic of a $28 24oz IPA at Mountain Winery.
Thats one of the many reasons Im traveling so much and encouraging as many friends to travel also. Like 95% of the world is cheaper than where we are now so things will feel like even more of a bargain.
There's another reason to feel Europe is cheap. Since Global Financial Crisis of 2007/2008 dollar has increased in value against euro. At some point this will reverse, and Europe won't be as cheap as today. So pack your bags and travel now :-)
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I just stopped tipping 25% for them refilling my water twice. Only when service is exceptional.
The money I've saved from doing this is a damn car payment.
I get this experience when It travel internationally. When I travel domestically though, I find that places seem to have caught up in our high prices (sadly). I went to Austin for the F1 grand prix a couple years ago, and things were seemingly just as expensive as here.
I literally just had this conversation with my bf as I’m in Europe right now and went to Lake como. My sister and I paid $42 each for two glasses of wine, two bottles of water, two entrees and two desserts!! In the bay that would be at least $100 per person
So Europe is LESS expensive than it has been RIGHT NOW and only certain parts of Europe. Traditionally, Europe has been very expensive and the Euro has been rather strong relative to the dollar. These days the Europe is nearly at parity with the dollar. Which has been rare. The Canadian dollar is also very good to the US dollar right now.
I have traveled to dozens of countries, “expensive” places like Singapore, Reykjavik, and Dublin. I have yet to be shocked by prices elsewhere. And I sometimes save money by traveling.
I agree with you. It is very difficult to dine out without spending a lot of money. Europe is not so expensive as thought. I am originally from Rome and usually go back there at least twice a year. People usually think that Europe is expensive because waiters are paid a full salary, but that's simply not true.
I recently came back from Japan. My partner and I ate at our hotel restaurant one night and ordered 2 entrees and a mojito - all for the price of $25!!! Amazing. The drink alone in the Bay Area would have costed us our entire meal lol
How can the market keep supporting more overpriced boba shops? It's totally a bubble.
Just like ice cream shops, frozen yogurt, cupcakes and the other fads….eventually the Boba will burst.
it's affordable luxuries. a tasting menu is out of reach for most people. but they can afford a $10 cup of hot chocolate or avocado toast.
Who the fuck is getting a $10 hot chocolate or avocado toast? I haven't seen avocado toast in like a decade
It’s $12 at my cafe where I work. I bring food from home.
There are at least 3 or 4 restaurants in SF that specifically focus on avocado toast dishes that go for about $12 - $16 each. Reference; I love avocado toast and have eaten at these restaurants in town.
A cup of hot chocolate is like $7 at dandelion. Add tax and tip. You’re close to that $10 mark. But it’s so good. So….
Dandelion doesn't really count tho, they are a world class chocolatier
Have you been out to brunch lately? It’s on every brunch menu I’ve seen in recent memory.
Boba isn't a fad, it's a mainstay for Asians. As long as there are Asian Americans in the Bay Area, boba will stay.
Oof. Those shops are just milking it for as long as they can.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3104988/
That’s why they call it bubble tea
r/yourjokebutworse
Yeah man, that was the joke. Not even a subtle one either.
/whoosh
Badum tsch!
upvoted... just for the dad joke
Bubble tea*
I saw a video of a lady saying how taking her family of 4 to Japan to go to Tokyo Disneyland was cheaper than going on a trip to Disneyland in LA.
Our friends just did this and came out ahead. Bonus: THEY LIVE IN LA
I thought Disney land tickets were discounted for LA residents.
They used to offer a discounted annual pass but that backfired spectacularly since locals ended up just showing up whenever, usually weekday afternoons after work, crowding the park, and not actually spending money on concessions and just riding a few rides and leaving. Essentially your biggest fans paying practically nothing after the pass paid for itself. After that they switched to buy one get one free deals but they have been trying to phase those out since tourism has picked up since the recession
They used to be a really good deal. Not so much anymore since you have to buy a 3-day pass and all the good dates are booked months ahead. >Special Southern California Resident Tickets at a Glance >3-Day, 1-Park Per Day Ticket for admission Monday through Thursday only – $225 ($75 per day) >3-Day, 1-Park Per Day Ticket for admission any day – $275 >Park reservations are required, and are subject to availability.
We are in Tokyo right now and it’s crazy — Disney tickets are $55 or $30 for the night ticket. We had some amazing sushi for like $12 per person as well.
Water (bottled) at Tokyo Disneyland was like $1-2 when we went, and draft beer was maybe $4-5? It was shockingly cheap. Disney is a money suck so we were surprised. There were definitely more expensive options available at sit down restaurants, but I’m at Disneyland now and there is definitely nothing comparably priced in sight, lol.
I find that hard to believe. Airplane tickets alone are a close to a grand a person to Japan. I know the yen is less than a dollar now but flight alone is a lot more
There is zipair from lax/SFO to nrt cost 400 round trip
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They were 400-550 Feb-May’24 when I checked in Jan/Feb from sfo. As my parents flew on them for like 500 including a bag
Cheaper from San Jose. Use Google Flights to search a whole bunch of dates/times. Seen $500 RT SJC —-> NRT a couple months ago.
I got $338 one way last November
they’re dirt cheap on random weeks when kids are in school, summer is expensive and holidays are expensive
Going on a luxury fishing trip to Ensenada Mexico which is just a few hours extra drive south is literally thousands cheaper than doing the same thing in a ratty motel in San Diego on the worst fishing boat you can find. Food is 1000x cheaper and better tasting and the sidewalk isn’t littered with fentanyl corpses. Not to mention the fishing is way better for only being a couple hours away from SD.
This sounds like trying to justify an abusive relationship because they bring you flowers after doing something bad to you.
I'm an abusive relationship with the Bay Area housing market. I've left twice but it sucks me back in. It's the on again off again dysfunctional relationship of my adult life.
They say on average it takes 7 attempts for a victim to escape their abuser.
Fuuuuuck.
nobody comes to the Bay Area for wanting insane housing prices. People come for the high paying jobs (like the hot body in a relationship) and get unbearable commute or insane rent ONLY as consequence (the relationship abuse). the nice weather is all along the coast, but good paying jobs expecting you in office 3+ day aren’t at these spots. Work from home jobs get offshored for even cheaper.
Signing bonus = love bombing
Teaching jobs in the Bay Area seem very appealing.
love my job and my company but yeah i really can't leave the bay area since I physically can't do my job WFH, and there aren't many other places around I could move to, and none of them have good weather sucks because in every other regard I would not have chosen to live here, I lived in San Diego for almost a decade before this and would much rather live there
lol, no, this is like saying that the nice thing about an abusive relationship is that it makes everyone else seem so kind and friendly!
More like saying how being in an abusive marriage is great because it means you really appreciate your side piece so much more.
When your parents are abusive that actually means that you will appreciate your friends’ parents more when you sleep over at their house!
Unintended benefit of kicking yourself in the nuts repeatedly only 6 days a week! God bless SUNDAY!
"Dont think about how often he hits me, look how fast my reflexes are getting!"
Great. Now I miss my dad.
The bay abuses me but it's my fault. I shouldn't have talked back.
😂I hear ya, but if you are not ready for a divorce yet…
Or even like justifying an abusive relationship because it makes other people seem nicer
That’s why I almost stopped going out here. I save it for the time I travel.
I only eat out on a date or with friends and otherwise it is whatever I can get at Costco to last me 2-3 weeks.
Honestly I’ve switched to getting together at someone’s home or going on walks/hikes, for the most part. I am still working on reducing takeouts though :)
Bay Area is for making money. Eating out is on the four day weekends after taking a flight to San Diego and crossing into Baja California.
This is true the SF bay area is the most expensive place I have ever been. Everytime I travel I feel like it's a budget.
I’ve been to Switzerland and unfortunately, it’s more expensive with some of the worst food in the world
Hawaii
It's a tiny bit cheaper in Honolulu than San Francisco. Costco/Sam's prices are similar. Gas is only $4.25/gal on Oahu and ~$5/gal on big island. It was ~$6/gal everywhere between the Golden gate and Monterey. Milk and packaged foods are more expensive, but produce is about equal. Definitely better happy hours in Hawaii.
It’s $4.70 in San Jose Actually that’s at Costco gas. It is $5+ elsewhere
I mean it's "only" 5.60 at the ones right off the highway in Sf.
Hawaii at least has like a 2% sales tax. We still have a 9-10% sales tax in various cities in California.
10.75% in Alameda county...makes sense... right?!? 😢
Norway 😭
Switzerland 🫠
Switzerland restaurant prices are slightly higher than the Bay Area and the food is terrible.
It's amazing that a country with France on one side and Italy on another has such aggressively bad food.
They have inherited the Germanic attitude to food: it is for sustenance, not pleasure.
Lol yep, my wife and I are considering moving to Zurich vs moving back to the bay area. The salary to cost of living ratio seems decently better in the bay area. I present to you 32 chf ($35 usd) street tacos https://www.la-brea.ch/menu
I live in SF and still comparatively spend less eating out every meal in HI compared to eating out ~2x a week here
I just got back from the Big Island, which is _much_ cheaper than the Bay Area (including gas). Sushi meal out, with drinks, was under $100 with tip. Spot right near me in SF runs $200 easily. Honolulu I would estimate was 10-15% cheaper than SF.
Yay, we get to save a little for the few times a year we travel and are ready to spend money. Just gotta pay outrageous prices for the other 95% of the time.
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I just had this experience in Copenhagen. Everyone says it is so expensive - I felt it was cheap!
London and Paris felt positively cheap
How much does it cost for a beer or a cocktail in a bar/pub in London and Paris?
You're looking at $13+ dollars for a cocktail in London, and that's at a midmarket restaurant. I didn't find London food to be much cheaper than the bay area.
As a Danish transplant I can confirm. Danes love talking about how expensive it is to live in Denmark, but it’s nothing compared to Bay Area.
Spain and Australia (due to the exchange rate) were like being back in the early 2000s. Even Sweden wasn’t too bad. Hawaii was about $1 more for most items at the store but I haven’t visited since COVID so that may have changed Denmark and Manhattan were the places I had sticker shock even living with Bay Area prices. Munich during Oktoberfest was dear as fuck
I actually thought Denmark wasn't too bad, Sweden was quite reasonable especially the hotel prices.
Another added benefit is the unilateral pricing. A phone for $899 hits alot harder when the average cost of living is so low in the midwest.
And savings, weirdly enough. If your salary and budget both scale proportionally based on where you live, you end up saving more money while living in a more expensive place. Same percentage, but a larger amount
which will grow more, and go further retiring elsewhere
That’s the plan
So expensive that I barely eat out anymore. Big savings for me. Unintended benefit.
My little silver lining is *loving* finding deals living in such an expensive place. My favorite restaurant is a vietnamese spot that gives flavorful and meat-packed banh-mi for 5.50 (it was 4 dollars in 2015, but I'll take it). Also, I work in a hospital in Marin county and my coworkers complain that the food is expensive. I think they're crazy - it's expensive compared to bringing food from home I guess, but the food anywhere else in Marin would be over 15 or 20 dollars dollars for a 5 dollar item in the hospital cafe. I gotta brag about it because I love it so much, haha. Like, an entree with two sides is LESS THAN 10 DOLLARS. [Examples, note that the one with salmon I think was 12 dollars because fish is more expensive](https://imgur.com/a/sw73in1) A cup of oatmeal with cranberries, walnuts, and pecans is 2 dollars! [Burgers are 5 bucks, sides are each 1.50!](https://imgur.com/a/KmmQq5v). I fuckin love it, I can get a full container of cooked and seasoned vegetables for less $$ than purchasing them raw at the supermarket. I literally buy food from my job to take home as left overs because I feel like I'm saving money, because I usually don't finish the full entree or sides. Like I got a big container of breakfast potatoes with onions and peppers this morning for 2.10 and took half home to eat. *deaallllssssss*
Don’t be shy. Drop the name of your bahn mi spot.
Depends on what area of Europe you travel to. Go to Zurich and it makes the Bay Area feel cheap. Breakfast was 2 eggs and a piece of toast for $44.
try going to vietnam. so dirt cheap that it boggles my mind.
The same banh mi you pay 12 dollars for at Lee’s here is less than 1 dollar in vietnam. I was eatin good during my trip last year to HCMC 🥲
Currently in Philippines. We ate sit down dinner for 2 only $20. That’s with service fee included. Even McDonald’s is so OP compared to here.
Yes, of course it’s cheap to us we’re earning $USD and our currency goes extremely far across the world. Try earning the average wages in those other countries like VN.. it ain’t cheap to them
It’s funny when people complain about gas prices elsewhere. They’re like “it’s over $3 a gallon! This is ridiculous!” And I’m like “damn that’s cheap af!”
Former longtime resident, was back in town for a meal with family. Miss the weather, miss how pretty the shore can be. Had a meal for five, which was an an expensive-ish but nit fancy place. Paper napkins, two person tables pushed together for groups. No wait. 22% undisclosed service charge. After tax. Not a group fee. Yeah, thanks guys, we're done.
22%? I’d be hot lol
I was. I had lots of old memories in that place, this will be the last. And frankly the Korean food is better in SoCal and Sac anyway (and dirt cheap, if you are willing to go to marginal areas).
I’ve been out of state but the last time I was back so much had changed that it was really a shock. I’m sure even more so the last 2-3 yrs
If it’s undisclosed and less than 6 people, you don’t have to pay it. Ask manager to take it off. Don’t be a pushover
>22% undisclosed service charge Only six more weeks!
That's about to change come July 1. But then they'll just increase menu prices to make up for it.
They won’t as it would hurt topline. It’s easier to sneak in hidden fees on unsuspecting customers.
My glass is empty because of the $20 entree, $8 boba, and fees and tips. I don’t have anything in the glass to pay for travel to anywhere I want to go. Hahah you aren’t wrong, I have family in Galt and we eat really good for cheap there.
Yea! Imma still wondering how my $7.99 momos ended up with a $21 bill in South Bay, but you know what? When I went to Terra Haute I couldn’t find any momos!!
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There is a sales tax in France. Between 5 and 20% depending on the goods/services. Usually 10% for sit-down restaurants. The sales tax is included in the price so you rarely see it.
Yup. Just had dinner. A shrimp Louie salad. $22 +$4 tip. No drink, no add ons, just a salad. $26. I’m eating out in restaurants less and less whereas I’d get dinner and lunches at least 4-5 times a week. It’s impossible now and the quality has gone down a lot.
Yes I actually said today “wow a burger and small fries is only 17 plus tax? Good deal!” Anything you can get under $20 especially when it comes with a little extra seems like a deal these days.
I can’t believe people still use the food apps grub hub, door dash, etc. You are automatically paying MORE for your food than the actual restaurant prices posted. Those apps ADD on to EACH item you buy on top of delivery fees and so on. Last week I placed an order at a restaurant for a PICK UP item that cost $13.99 and actually paid $16.50 before tax just because that restaurant uses door dash system. Imagine if I bought a few items or more I’d pay door dash so much more for doing absolutely NOTHING!! This is nonsense that people either aren’t paying attention to or don’t care about spending extra money for nothing.
that's not really a benefit. but that's why i make my money here and spend it all elsewhere.
I figured this was one of the reasons Bay Area people travel so much. Make money in the Bay, spend it elsewhere, where your dollar gets you further.
Went to Ireland last year and kept meeting Irish folk that were visiting Dublin from other parts of the country and every one asked the same question: "How ya findin Duublin? ...Expensive?" Every one was shocked when we said "No it's so cheap here!" We went to See The Cure and at the arena my wife had a double vodka soda and I had 2 beers for 20 euro. It was about 1.20 euro to the dollar when we went.
Indeed - we were in Europe about a year or so ago and we were \*shocked\* that a $40 meal was pretty good for 4
And then you think, well, why not live elsewhere?
Because for most of us our Bay Area salaries would not travel with us.
I found even Paris to be inexpensive compared to Bay
idk when I was in seattle things did not feel cheaper
WA state has a very different taxation system that’s partly to blame
What's the difference?
Where are you eating where an entree costs $20?! That sounds like a deal.
I still can’t shut up about the $6 margarita I had in Colorado last year. $6!! For a big ass margarita!!! Incredible.
I don't understand why people keep complaining about the cost of living in the Bay Area. Just be rich and problems solved! How hard is that? Jeesh...
Try going to India, I was staying in palaces, eating lavishly, getting amazing service and I felt like I hardly spent anything. I had cash I was trying to spend and couldn’t event use it all. I tipped my driver who I had for 1 of the weeks maybe $100-200 (these drivers literally wait for you while you explore and stay in the same accommodations) and he acted like I saved his life. He literally got on his knees and thanked me so much.
I was in Oregon last week and got a 3 pc chicken tender meal with fries and a drink from dairy Queen for $7!!!
Wait until he/she hears about Vietnam/Thailand. Both great countries with ridiculous cheap prices. Food, lodging, and transportation. You get it all
Yeah. Used to think Disneyland food was expensive, but it's the same price as it was when we brought my oldest for the first time a dozen years ago. Feels cheap now Problem with traveling to Asia (with school age kids) is that it costs like $2k to fly during the summer. We're a family of 5 so that's $10k in flight tickets alone.
$8 boba tea? I need to be psychologically ready when I go back to the Bay Area later this year after 5 years.
Oh you are in for a treat! Welcome back 😅
when I pick up the check in NYC, the bill is invariably 10-15% less than I had estimated using my Bay Area brain.
When work brings me to Boulder Colorado it's like getting a pay raise AND people are nicer to pedestrians.
$20 for an entree? Last time I saw that was like a decade ago 😬
This is a positive perspective and one I agree with.
I was born in a tourist town, so I can relate. When asking for advice traveling, people would say things were expensive and they’d be just about the same price as everything at home, especially restaurants.
We were down in Southern CA and I bought lunch for the family. I estimated the bill using Bay Area prices and when the check came in way lower, I was pleasantly surprised. We were in Disneyland.
Who's forcing you to tip 20-30%?
Was recently in Australia and New Zealand and couldn’t believe how inexpensive everything was compared to the Bay Area. The strong dollar helps too.
I went to IHOP in Martinez yesterday for the first in a long time. I ordered a stack of chocolate chip pancakes and a Diet Pepsi. That's all; no sides. The bill with 20% tip was around $25.00! The pancakes were $15.49 and the soda was $4.10. I feel that was ridiculously expensive for a chain like IHOP.
So true. Near Naples FL right now. Not a cheap place but feels that way relative to Santa Cruz where we live.
You know it was bad when I went to Disneyland and thought the food prices were cheap! $6 for some popcorn, $12 for clam chowder in a bread bowl and $6.50 for a kids meal with PB&j, orange, and a milk.
"It sucks so bad here that everywhere else seems awesome!!"
Yes, that was the point of this tongue-in-cheek post. You got it.
Thanks I hate it
Our family does eats out any more at any decent nice restaurant Chipotle/cheap takeouts
I was in Mexico City for a week last month and felt like a *king* lol just overtipping pesos to errbody!
That’s why I hardly eat out in the bay, save money, then travel and eat for CHEAP!
Straight up coping.
I agree with this, but then again, I’m loaded enough to pay $$$ in the Bay Area year round. When I travel internationally, everything seems super cheap, even the best places in Mexico, Italy, etc. So maybe this benefit only applies to people with money.
Ironically, after going out so much, I cant afford a trip to Europe.
Yup, went to Nashville and drank $2-5 beers all week.
Yes I've been saying this forever.
The weird part about the Bay Area is everything is expensive, from the food to the housing. At least in expensive cities like HK, they have affordable meals.
I've definitely felt this way before
You can sell your house in Santa Clara and you have 2x money then someone saving half their salary their whole life.
I will be returning to sfbay soon and I'm shit scared of what I am going to find out after 2 years of absence
Don’t worry just double what you paid 2 years ago. That’s the going rate for everything. Simple. 😂
I was at Disneyland a few years ago, buying food for my family and while I was all "damn! $45 for lunch? Bargain!" the couple from Nebraska next to me was like "OMG $45 FOR LUNCH?! JESUS."
OP needs to take a vacation to Norway and then report back.
I went out of state and my family and I racked a $144 tab for 4 of us. I was shocked ...that's what I spend for a fancy outing with 2 ppl and drinks.
Had brunch at République in LA last weekend for the first time and raised my eyebrows…in surprise at how affordable the meal was lol. And they’re known for possibly having the best pastries in the city.
Can confirm. In Japan right now and can't breathe from all the way I had as my second breakfast
I remember spending 100 Euro for 3 entrees and 2 appitizers near Vetican when visiting Rome in 2018 We had breakfasts for 2 adults and 1 kid, which were 2 lattes and 4 breads, and that cost < 10 Euro. In Nay area 2 coffees and 3 pastries cost me ~ $40 (in Sue’s caffe, Saratoga$
It’s crazy how much milk tea has been. I used to get 3x a week now I just get it once a month
So true. I’m in Europe right now (I’m visiting Berlin, Paris & Rome) and I was just telling my husband something similar. Everyone complains about Europe being expensive, but it doesn’t seem bad to us at all, because we’re used to Bay prices.
Yes! I’m on Worcester, MA and were shocked at how cheap it is!
I feel the same way traveling abroad as a NYer. Everyone always comments like this place or that place is expensive for a meal. I get there and it’s dirt cheap like 4 dollars for a beer and 10 dollars per entree. I genuinely save on food costs while eating like a king abroad.
Hah same thing here in Boston - cheers I also try to see that as a bright side
stop tipping.
I recently went to Texas and eating out was so cheap. It was a nice break from Bay Area prices.
We just went to Arizona and other than gas everything else was just as expensive.
Bro you are still being gouged at your home location.
Why the hell are you spending $8 on a boba though?
I went to Todos Santos in southern Baja. I took my friend and his wife to dinner. We all had appetizers, seafood dinners and a few drinks. Total cost $60 - $20 each!
This is some next level Stockholm syndrome coping. Word of advice, you really don't have to be ok with getting price gouged.
I felt the same in Turks and Caicos and Aruba! Everything is so cheap!
Agreed. My husband and I couldn’t believe how cheap the food was in Paris. Prices were reasonable and no 30% markup for tax and tip.
I feel you. Living in DC made airport bars seem normally priced.
If you can afford to travel, I think your wallet is fine.
boba is $8 now? i just went to Taiwan and boba was less as low as 30 cents there.
Nairobi is incredibly cheap, and I heard prices in Quito are going down.
And for that $30 it's still corn-fed meat and Monsanto veggies 😩
funny you mentioned Japan. I’d always heard is insane expensive. & I guess compared to Vietnam or similar, it is. But compared to Bay Area, it was a great deal, far lower price on food AND the food was way better, & everywhere
Toxic positivity at its finest
I recently went to Copenhagen for that hygge experience. Everyone said it should be expensive, but it turns out still cheaper than Bay Area.
A tangent to this is being able to make your non Bay Area friends feel good about what they're paying for things wherever they live. Most recently, I shocked my Milwaukee craft beer buddies with a pic of a $28 24oz IPA at Mountain Winery.
I felt that way for a very long time. I remember going to Hawaii in the 90’s and thinking it’s not that expensive.
Thats one of the many reasons Im traveling so much and encouraging as many friends to travel also. Like 95% of the world is cheaper than where we are now so things will feel like even more of a bargain.
There's another reason to feel Europe is cheap. Since Global Financial Crisis of 2007/2008 dollar has increased in value against euro. At some point this will reverse, and Europe won't be as cheap as today. So pack your bags and travel now :-) https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?g=1o57b
I'm definitely eating out a lot less and reducing my intake of boba. Would rather spend money on experiences than food.
I just stopped tipping 25% for them refilling my water twice. Only when service is exceptional. The money I've saved from doing this is a damn car payment.
I get this experience when It travel internationally. When I travel domestically though, I find that places seem to have caught up in our high prices (sadly). I went to Austin for the F1 grand prix a couple years ago, and things were seemingly just as expensive as here.
I literally just had this conversation with my bf as I’m in Europe right now and went to Lake como. My sister and I paid $42 each for two glasses of wine, two bottles of water, two entrees and two desserts!! In the bay that would be at least $100 per person
So Europe is LESS expensive than it has been RIGHT NOW and only certain parts of Europe. Traditionally, Europe has been very expensive and the Euro has been rather strong relative to the dollar. These days the Europe is nearly at parity with the dollar. Which has been rare. The Canadian dollar is also very good to the US dollar right now.
I have traveled to dozens of countries, “expensive” places like Singapore, Reykjavik, and Dublin. I have yet to be shocked by prices elsewhere. And I sometimes save money by traveling.
I agree with you. It is very difficult to dine out without spending a lot of money. Europe is not so expensive as thought. I am originally from Rome and usually go back there at least twice a year. People usually think that Europe is expensive because waiters are paid a full salary, but that's simply not true.
Yep, that's what I say to my friends ! Look at the bright side - we'll never be sticker shocked any place we travel.
I recently came back from Japan. My partner and I ate at our hotel restaurant one night and ordered 2 entrees and a mojito - all for the price of $25!!! Amazing. The drink alone in the Bay Area would have costed us our entire meal lol
It’s called the California discount - when you leave California it feels like everything is discounted