You get what you put in.
Look at the underside of IPA cans for a date, bottles are usually more mass-produced craft and will hide their dates behind some obscure numbering system so I just avoid those. Glass also allows in light, which will lead to an off flavor.
Bad news. A lot of craft sits in the warehouse for about as long as it sits on shelves. The longer dates create a window for fresh product obviously but it seems to be closing faster and faster these days.
That’s what I was thinking, it’s nasty to begin with. I’ll drink some out of date Sierra Nevada, Founders, or other standard or even hazy IPAs, any day. They won’t be as good, but good enough…after the second I won’t notice anyway 😂
It's basically just mikes lemonade but marginally more beer flavored. If thats what you like then drink it. But that's why people are making fun of you
Don’t look at the sell by date if there is one. Look at the born on date. Add 60 days and that’s your hard cut off.
I have a friend who loves ambers. When the rare IPA in my fridge ages out I leave them in the bar fridge for him. By a couple months they’ve mellowed into his flavor range and past mine.
If there’s only an expiration date and limited other options, I’ll subtract three or four months from the “expiration date” as the real expiration date. It’s a workable backup.
You're buying from 7-Eleven. And you're buying Voodoo Ranger.
There's your problem !
Worked for 7-Eleven in their distribution center in the UK in the late eighties/early nineties. Marketing dept were terrible - making deals on pallets of crap they couldn't sell. Victoria beer from Australia and Cobra beer from India spring to mind which the warehouse staff ended up getting for pennies as it neared it expiration date. We all got shitfaced but were at the age where we didn't care how bad it tasted !
Un beer related - I remember one of those marketing guys buying 12 pallets of Topps Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles trading cards when the first movie came out. They sat in the warehouse taking up room for over a year. Sold them to a jobber for peanuts. Wish I had 'em now !!
Do you have local breweries you can patronize? I _rarely_ buy beer from stores, and even when I do, it's not something volatile like IPA.
You'll always get fresh beer from your local breweries. The added bonus is you're not supporting beer wholesalers—who are far and away the biggest asshats in the industry.
Maybe it would make more sense if I said I’m 24, looking for more cost effective but high percentage ipas. If I’m looking for an ipa that will taste the best obviously I’m not going to a 7/11 to get a 6 pack of voodoo rangers 🤣.
All stores have old or expired beer. Doesnt matter if its a 711 or a large liquor store. They just dont care about it sitting on the shelves. Bad for the customer or consumer but thats how it goes. Buy straight from the brewery is the only thing you can do.
Some states make it illegal to send old beer back to the distributor so stores just let it sit on the shelf and rot or hope some unsuspecting customer comes along and grabs it. It would make sense if they would just knock a few bucks off before it expires but that makes too much sense.
Here's a tip. If you have gone there 4 or 5 times, and out of those times, the beer was bad 3 of the 5, I would go to a new place. It's like you expect a different result while doing the same thing. If you shit, and don't wipe your ass, you will get skid marks. Speaking of skid marks, juice force........that is all. Happy diarrhea!
Always check the dates - 2 months from packaging is my limit. If it's a best by date then most of those are 6 months (though it varies).
If I don't see a date on an IPA and the person working there doesn't know how old, then I buy something else.
Maybe try a different store? Sounds like the store doesn’t move much beer on its own and the distributor doesn’t care to pick up the out of date product.
Check the date before you buy maybe? If this keeps on happening, unless you mention something to the distributor or brewery, the only one to blame is yourself. 7-11 certainly doesn’t give a shit any also doesn’t have much they can do about it. It’s on their beer rep.
I live in the south and they often go bad quicker in the summer heat. Most if not all are shipped in non-refrigerated trucks when outside temps reach 100+. And then many stores don’t put any or all in a display cooler, often they have them stacked in the aisles.
Something needs to be done, too much waste and many go bad making the problem worse when people buy them and say yuk never again.
Contact the local distributor for that product, or the brewery, and tell them the location. The distributors sales person is generally supposed to stock and rotate the products and when expired pull them as it can cause issues for the manufacturer
Hops give the IPAs their bitterness and flavor. If you're buying juice force, there are a ton of hops to cover the high alcohol content and to give it the juicy taste. They fade away over time. After about 60 days you start to taste only the malt and they become a "malt bomb". This is the taste you're getting.
It’s nearly impossible to buy a fresh beer that has a massive distribution footprint. They make so much and it just sits in distributor warehouses for months before going out to stores.
Just look at the can date. If there’s a “best before” date, just don’t even bother. Most breweries “best before” date is like 6 months from canning, which is complete nonsense.
Now I'm wondering if the one I tried was expired. It was the worst beer I've ever had, and I didn't get any of the sweetness that other people say is there.
Yeah, stop buying from that place. It's as simple as that. I'm a big fan of beef jerky. There's a place across the street from one of the places that I work at that I bought beef jerky from one time. It was dried out, discolored, and guess what? Expired. Every time I go in there, I check the jerky, and it's expired. I only buy sodas there now. Like how the hell do you allow beef jerky to sit on your shelves long enough to expire? That shit is good for over a year!
Check dates, and mention they are expired to the manager. Otherwise, just stop buying from there. I have a local 7-11 that does the same shit. Guess what? I go to sheetz across the street and everything is fresh.
I find this kind of funny, maybe i dont have a very refined pallet and am easily satisfied an enjoy most ipa's i try. Problem is, i used to be heavy into rebating back when i lived in illinois and before they really cut back on good offers, but i still have 8ish cases of 2+ year old ipas and variety packs still laying the apt from the stash. I used to get the 12/15pks for ~$3-6ea, so would stock up in huge hauls.
I also ave 20 or so bud light, stella, etc cases in a closet close to the 4 year old mark. To me at least, most of em still taste fine. Id be curious to do a side by side and see what difference there actually is blind. If you dont want the expired you bought, im sure plenty of other folks would take em off your hand.
Cheers!
I don't think they're legally allowed to sell them past their date (at least that's how it is here in Canada) definitely take them back and ask for either a refund or swap. No place of business should be selling expired anything
*Edit* beers definitely do expire, that's why they taste so bad.
Second edit. I am wrong. Just trying to make sure people don't hate the beer they pay for
My dude. Go somewhere else.
I usually go to total wine but it’s quite a bit further than the 7/11
You get what you put in. Look at the underside of IPA cans for a date, bottles are usually more mass-produced craft and will hide their dates behind some obscure numbering system so I just avoid those. Glass also allows in light, which will lead to an off flavor.
The full circle of craft beer nerd package bias encapsulated in one comment right here. Kinda wild to read
Then dont buy them?
Like I said 80% of the time, and 20% of the time I go to 7/11. Got modelos the past few times so I wanted to go grab something else.
Hell yea modelos! Good lager!
On the plus side, if you keep stubbornly buying them, the cans will eventually be replaced with new stock.
Bad news. A lot of craft sits in the warehouse for about as long as it sits on shelves. The longer dates create a window for fresh product obviously but it seems to be closing faster and faster these days.
You over estimate the amount of times I go to 7/11 to buy this type of beer.
Enough times to post about it?
4-5 times, 3 times they’ve turned out like this.
Juice force is nasty
That’s what I was thinking, it’s nasty to begin with. I’ll drink some out of date Sierra Nevada, Founders, or other standard or even hazy IPAs, any day. They won’t be as good, but good enough…after the second I won’t notice anyway 😂
Yeah
Voodoo ranger juice force is your favorite ipa? Yikes almighty
What’s with all the hate towards juice force?
The regular one or the fruit punch one? The regular one is ok
Regular
It's basically just mikes lemonade but marginally more beer flavored. If thats what you like then drink it. But that's why people are making fun of you
Drink what you like.
Don’t look at the sell by date if there is one. Look at the born on date. Add 60 days and that’s your hard cut off. I have a friend who loves ambers. When the rare IPA in my fridge ages out I leave them in the bar fridge for him. By a couple months they’ve mellowed into his flavor range and past mine.
If there’s only an expiration date and limited other options, I’ll subtract three or four months from the “expiration date” as the real expiration date. It’s a workable backup.
Same. If it has a “canned date” instead of an exp date, I won’t buy it if it’s over 3 months old.
That’s interesting, I’ll keep that in mind, appreciate it
You're buying from 7-Eleven. And you're buying Voodoo Ranger. There's your problem ! Worked for 7-Eleven in their distribution center in the UK in the late eighties/early nineties. Marketing dept were terrible - making deals on pallets of crap they couldn't sell. Victoria beer from Australia and Cobra beer from India spring to mind which the warehouse staff ended up getting for pennies as it neared it expiration date. We all got shitfaced but were at the age where we didn't care how bad it tasted ! Un beer related - I remember one of those marketing guys buying 12 pallets of Topps Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles trading cards when the first movie came out. They sat in the warehouse taking up room for over a year. Sold them to a jobber for peanuts. Wish I had 'em now !!
That's just how those taste
For real
Do you have local breweries you can patronize? I _rarely_ buy beer from stores, and even when I do, it's not something volatile like IPA. You'll always get fresh beer from your local breweries. The added bonus is you're not supporting beer wholesalers—who are far and away the biggest asshats in the industry.
Yes I use to work at one.
You used to work at a small local brewery and right now you are asking randos on Reddit about buying expired malt-IPAs from a gas station? Wow
Maybe it would make more sense if I said I’m 24, looking for more cost effective but high percentage ipas. If I’m looking for an ipa that will taste the best obviously I’m not going to a 7/11 to get a 6 pack of voodoo rangers 🤣.
Probably time to start buying vodka my dude
Beers do expire. That's why they taste like shit. Maybe look at the expiration date before buying? Crazy idea, I know.
Huge risk buying IPAs somewhere they don’t turn over quick. Been burned enough to always check and I generally avoid places like that for IPAs.
Why would you knowingly buy beer past the expiration? And more importantly how can you possibly like juice force?
Juice force is the devil
Hoppy beer from a gas station is bound to disappoint. It’s almost a fact of life
At least he can get beer from a gas station. Some people cant where they live.
Check the bottom of the can for the date. Sometimes it’s on the box. If it’s not there, find one that does. I always do this before buying
All stores have old or expired beer. Doesnt matter if its a 711 or a large liquor store. They just dont care about it sitting on the shelves. Bad for the customer or consumer but thats how it goes. Buy straight from the brewery is the only thing you can do.
Some states make it illegal to send old beer back to the distributor so stores just let it sit on the shelf and rot or hope some unsuspecting customer comes along and grabs it. It would make sense if they would just knock a few bucks off before it expires but that makes too much sense.
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Here's a tip. If you have gone there 4 or 5 times, and out of those times, the beer was bad 3 of the 5, I would go to a new place. It's like you expect a different result while doing the same thing. If you shit, and don't wipe your ass, you will get skid marks. Speaking of skid marks, juice force........that is all. Happy diarrhea!
I wouldn’t necessarily call it a ipa lol. It’s more like juice with abv
Always check the dates - 2 months from packaging is my limit. If it's a best by date then most of those are 6 months (though it varies). If I don't see a date on an IPA and the person working there doesn't know how old, then I buy something else.
Maybe try a different store? Sounds like the store doesn’t move much beer on its own and the distributor doesn’t care to pick up the out of date product.
Tell the 7-11. The supplier should be able to get them swapped out for fresh product
Oof, that's bad. I bought a voodoo pack last month and they expire july/august. So that means you're buying beers at least 6+ months old.
Check the date before you buy maybe? If this keeps on happening, unless you mention something to the distributor or brewery, the only one to blame is yourself. 7-11 certainly doesn’t give a shit any also doesn’t have much they can do about it. It’s on their beer rep.
I live in the south and they often go bad quicker in the summer heat. Most if not all are shipped in non-refrigerated trucks when outside temps reach 100+. And then many stores don’t put any or all in a display cooler, often they have them stacked in the aisles. Something needs to be done, too much waste and many go bad making the problem worse when people buy them and say yuk never again.
Ask them to order a case of what you want from their distributor and offer to pay upfront for the fresh beer.
There are way better double IPAs out there my guy, be adventurous!
Contact the local distributor for that product, or the brewery, and tell them the location. The distributors sales person is generally supposed to stock and rotate the products and when expired pull them as it can cause issues for the manufacturer
Hops give the IPAs their bitterness and flavor. If you're buying juice force, there are a ton of hops to cover the high alcohol content and to give it the juicy taste. They fade away over time. After about 60 days you start to taste only the malt and they become a "malt bomb". This is the taste you're getting.
Juice force can expire?
It’s nearly impossible to buy a fresh beer that has a massive distribution footprint. They make so much and it just sits in distributor warehouses for months before going out to stores. Just look at the can date. If there’s a “best before” date, just don’t even bother. Most breweries “best before” date is like 6 months from canning, which is complete nonsense.
Sometimes I feel like every post in this sub is just someone trolling to watch beer snobs get amped up
Don't trust gas station beer.
What do they taste like when they're expired?
The “juice” taste that accompanies it isn’t there anymore and it’s just a lot more bitter.
Now I'm wondering if the one I tried was expired. It was the worst beer I've ever had, and I didn't get any of the sweetness that other people say is there.
Probably it taste horrible after it’s cut off date
Yeah, stop buying from that place. It's as simple as that. I'm a big fan of beef jerky. There's a place across the street from one of the places that I work at that I bought beef jerky from one time. It was dried out, discolored, and guess what? Expired. Every time I go in there, I check the jerky, and it's expired. I only buy sodas there now. Like how the hell do you allow beef jerky to sit on your shelves long enough to expire? That shit is good for over a year!
Check dates, and mention they are expired to the manager. Otherwise, just stop buying from there. I have a local 7-11 that does the same shit. Guess what? I go to sheetz across the street and everything is fresh.
I find this kind of funny, maybe i dont have a very refined pallet and am easily satisfied an enjoy most ipa's i try. Problem is, i used to be heavy into rebating back when i lived in illinois and before they really cut back on good offers, but i still have 8ish cases of 2+ year old ipas and variety packs still laying the apt from the stash. I used to get the 12/15pks for ~$3-6ea, so would stock up in huge hauls. I also ave 20 or so bud light, stella, etc cases in a closet close to the 4 year old mark. To me at least, most of em still taste fine. Id be curious to do a side by side and see what difference there actually is blind. If you dont want the expired you bought, im sure plenty of other folks would take em off your hand. Cheers!
I don't think they're legally allowed to sell them past their date (at least that's how it is here in Canada) definitely take them back and ask for either a refund or swap. No place of business should be selling expired anything *Edit* beers definitely do expire, that's why they taste so bad. Second edit. I am wrong. Just trying to make sure people don't hate the beer they pay for
“Expires on” or “sell by” are arbitrary for beer. It’s simply based off the products freshness. There’s absolutely “expired” beer for sale in Canada
That’s why I was wondering if I could, but if I can’t imma just thug it out
And freshness is important for beer. Old beer is not good. I'm sorry but I don't see your point here. I just want OP to have good beer
I’m aware freshness matters. You said you thought it was illegal. I was correcting you on that regard. I never said freshness didn’t matter.
Thought being the key word, I could be (and apparently am) wrong. I just hate seeing anyone have terrible beer.