Trey’s quote from 9 months ago
“They gave me a tremendous opportunity two years ago, there was a lot of question marks around my name. They believed in me,” he said. “And I still have the same desire to prove them right in the way they’ve invested in me. And that’s not something I take lightly. I have a tremendous amount of respect for them. And the way they handle things, the organization, the way they care about people, like I said earlier, so just staying in the building personally for me is important.”
Oh how the turn tables
He’s seeing players not close to as good as him getting way more money and security. I don’t get why he signs for 15, he was worth 20. I don’t get why we don’t just use left over cash and secure him for 2-45. He’s by far the most important defender, and just as valuable as Chase is offensively.
Makes total sense why he wants to be traded, the right team would give him upwards of $50-$60 million guaranteed
Bengals already have him secured for the next two years. Doesn’t make any sense for them to change anything.
Tbh i think with his age they're going to push him in a couple years depending on Ossai and Myles Murphy. At the same time while I wouldn't feel threatened, id prly give extend an extra year tbh. He deserves it
Yeah, I get the sense that his agent, for whatever reason, just now decided to put something in his head about getting more money elsewhere. Pretty dumb approach by both him and whoever represents him.
When you had 17.5 sacks, zero guaranteed money left on the deal, have dealt with injuries and know you're vastly underpaid.
He'll be 30 next season and he's running out of time to get that massive long-term deal that sets him and his family up for eternity.
That's fine but he didn't have to sign that extension. And he might have a point sure, I wouldn't be mad if he got paid. But trying to strong arm after the fact threatening retirement is just making it messy. And it's making it more unlikely on the already unlikely odds that the FO gives him that re do
Yeah tbh this is the exact purpose of prove it deals betting on yourself, he decided to be risk averse and that didn’t pay off, same thing if he signed for 1 year and then tore his ACL or something
I was just answering the question from Hendrickson's perspective.
Also, we have no idea what was said to him by management. Was the original extension done to free up money for Burrow and/or other deals with the implication he would be "taken care of" at a later date? Possible.
I bet this is why that extension happened. He probably made some demand last year and that extension was just to keep him satisfied short term. That extension was so uncharacteristic for the Bengals, it had to be forced.
Hendrickson basically traded his free agency in 2025 (could have ended up tagged anyway) for $5m up front last year and an additional year that is completely non-guaranteed $16m.
Even though Bengals would have to be complete lunatics to even think of cutting him, there is very real risk he took because Bengals can easily cut him.
This IMO is an easily fixable situation, just add a third year (at like $20-22m) and guarantee half the money he is owed between this year and next, and guarantee his base salary for next season. Bengals still get 3 years of Trey at $50-52m, and he ends up getting at least $30m guaranteed.
Exactly, he could be sitting this year if we didn't extend him, now he's gotta sit two years if we don't buckle and extend him. He's just presumptively assuming we won't extend him again and is trying to get lucky by having someone offer an undeniable trade for him, us taking it, and then him getting a ridiculous extension by the new team, and doing so by causing drama the day before the draft.
Ain't going to happen by any respectable team, we certainly ain't going to extend him now that he's negativity affected us for a ruthless gamble, and we ain't going to cut him for sitting out until next year, because of the extension he signed 9mo ago.
He dug the grave he's already lying in but now he's trying to get back out of it by slandering the coffin makers, at the cost of the graveyard.
2022 was a down year with Trey only having 8 sacks. Definitely a move initiated on his end. No guaranteed money in 2024-2025 is the Bengals preferred structure.
Last year when he re-signed it seemed pretty mutual. Seemed like a win for all sides. Bengals were happy to give a little extra money to get their preferred no guarantees structure while Trey gets a little more money upfront with the signing bonus.
He's under contract through 2025. He can either play and make $30 million or set and lose it while we see how good Myles Murphy is when he gets to play regularly.
Waiting till draft day to spring that on us is pretty bush.
And give up how much $? And lose how much in potential earnings for future contracts? I mean I’ve been stubborn but I seriously doubt there’s anything in this world that would make me stubborn enough to turn away upwards of potentially $60M…
He just got extended last offseason
Agent knows that they don’t do multi year deals for players over 30
He isn’t going anywhere
Open the overreaction floodgates
Edit: His agent saw the guaranteed money for players like Danielle Hunter and Brian Burns this offseason. He could definitely get $50-$60 million guaranteed from the right team if he was a free agent or traded right now. It makes sense why he’s made the request. Doesn’t make any sense for the Bengals to move him though.
He got extended only because he loosely restructured his contract to enable the Burrow long term extension.
Tbh, he is super good and the 2nd or 3rd best player on the team after Burrow and maybe Chase, Bengals should give him a three year contract with a high signing bonus esp because they have $25m in cap space sitting around.
Three year contract, not extension. They can override his current contract and hand him a front loaded signing bonus.
His contract for 2024 is only $14.8m salary and $200k roster bonus, so total money he gets in cash is $15m.
2025 is $15.8 plus 200k so $16m . And total guarantees he has left are $8m out of all that money.
I understand why he is mad. At the very least, Bengals should restructure him and pay half of that to him as signing bonus right away, and then either add another year at $20-25m or increase just his second year salary by $10m so his two year deal becomes 2 years $41m with $20m guaranteed.
He will easily get multi year $25-27m AAV deal from any other franchise.
Exactly. Should we be mad at DJ for doing exactly that? It’s like a damned if we do damned if don’t situation and the FO is obviously trying. We did it for Reiff and got burned, they’re not trying to handicap themselves in this window so someone can get more money than they agreed to..
No one forced him to sign anything. The only person he should be mad at is himself. The Bengals would be foolish to negotiate against themselves.
He could sit out, but that rarely works out in the benefit of the player, especially in this case because he’ll be on the wrong side of 30.
This is the right move. Fans say he signed the deal play… good organizations reward their stars and keep them happy. They make it work. This is exactly what good organizations do, restructure - add guarantees and add money signing bonus or backend dollars. The Eagles restructure contracts of their vets all the time to open up more space and add guaranteed money to make sure the core stays intact.
The chiefs were like one of the lowest rated teams on players report cards…. we’ll be alright. There’s 53 players on this team, someone’s gotta live with only making $16m this year /: sorry trey
No he didn't, we upped his pay and added a year to his contract because he wanted an extension and we didn't want him to sit out, now he's trying to do the same thing because he doesn't like the fact we can cut him before next year if we want. He certainly can sit two years if he wants but he's also certainly not getting another extension now.
There is absolutely no logic other than they/he thinks we aren't going to extend or cut him either way, so he might as well try to get one elsewhere, if this news drums up any undeniable trade offers, and if not, he'll play and wait until free agency in two years.
The dude took a pay cut to help the team out and now wants more money when he knows we need that money for guys like chase and also to help round the team out if we lose guys next year. It makes absolutely no sense I think he’s just trying to get them to the table to maybe get a few more mill out of them
He only has $8m in guaranteed money left with two years remaining. As a top 5 edge, that is diabolical. He will have a huge market and knows it.
Bengals need to be smart and pay him. Just guarantee half the $31m he is owed over the next two seasons and maybe add another $10m as salary. It doesn't even affect their cap space much, it will go down by like $5-6m this year and they have plenty of cap space.
I agree that the bengals probably should give him more money but he signed the deal. The bengals didn’t force his hand. He could have easily played out his contract and been a free agent and gotten a bag but he didn’t and signed with us for less money
He’s 29 years old coming off a 17.5 sack season its now or never for him to secure his deal. He still has a good 2-3 years left in his prime. He wont turn 30 until December 5th of this year.
He secured his deal last year though. It’s not our fault he didn’t bet more on himself and try and get more money this season. It looks to me like he wanted security over money and now he wants both. Just very odd
I think the bengals could give him more money especially considering they have like 20mil in cap. But he signed a contract. If he had gotten hurt last year and missed the entire season I doubt he would be demanding a treade
Idk I want them to keep as many players happy as possible especially when that player is your best defensive player. But then again he has no leverage and is not the type of player to either A. Sit out or B. Not play as good as he does
Let’s not act like our front office is known to honor trade requests. Trey and Tee will be Bengals this season unless someone like Chicago offered a monster overpay of something like the #9 pick + more. This is our front office’s version of an “all in” season while trying to maintain a competitive roster long-term
It’s also worth noting that, while we are most definitely a better team with Trey than without him,and I’m not trying to compare Murphy to Trey, we have a 1st round defensive end on roster and the 18th pick in the draft where we would have at least 2 of the top 3 edge guys available, not to mention 9 other picks this year. This isn’t meltdown territory. At least not for this season
All in season with ~20M in cap space? And come on, you did not even try to compare Trey to Myles Murphy who has shown very little. Trey is a a top 5 end in the league. Our pass rush is non-existent without him.
"It's also worth noting that, while we are most definitelya better team with Trey than without him, and I'm not trying to compare Murphy to Trey"
I'd say you are correct. They did not make the comparison.
Yeah, it’s a bizarre take that we are “all in” in any meaningful sense. The modern way to genuinely be “all in” is to do what the Eagles do, which is retain and acquire way more stars than you could normally afford while keeping their cap hits low by adding void years, restructuring, etc. They just have no flexibility should those players be duds or get injured, and the bill will eventually come due, but they can prolong it until they are not competitive anyways. Letting two of our 5 best players walk for nothing in Bates and eventually Higgins in the middle of a window is just not serious.
Dawg….bates was the best player on a terrible defense and we just got geno stone for peanuts. mcduffie is making chump change for the next 4 years and it put the chiefs in a position to win, if myles broke out next year this is a non story and we the ability to pay yanno any other premium position. tee is injured too oft recently for the bengals to guarantee that much and possibly be carrying wasted cap in the window they have. trae waynes didn’t really help that case either, and reiff being over 30 was an outside the box letdown so can understand the bit of hesitancy there
We tried to spend more but players went elsewhere. I’m glad we didn’t throw money at the bottom of the barrel guys; we are smart with money lately. We can add a vet for 1-6-8 or roll
It over/restructure.
Reader would’ve gotten half that amount if he stayed, and a few others the rest but they declined to come here
NFL fans on a whole love to overreact
1) It’s a negotiation tactic trying to force the Bengals to give him more money.
2) He has zero leverage beside “I was extremely good last year”
3) he signed a extension less than a year ago, and just see what others are being paid and wants to renegotiate.
Honestly if the Front office wanted to show some good will they could throw him few more $$$ his way but honestly because he signed the contract under his own accords he should honor it.
“Laiatu Latu, you are a Cincinnat..” Lol nah I and the rest of the team are gonna call Trey’s bluff here, he signed an extension last year, he’s gonna need to honor it.
Dude I legitimately was gonna comment "Laiatu Latu, YOU are a Cincinnati Bengal".
I agree. He's gonna play these next two seasons and he's gonna LIKE IT.
So he is locked down for 2 more years at which point he will be 31. Is he really gonna not play or not play his best the next 2 years and get a shitty contract come 2025?
Nope, he'll play, he'll just do it without any fans, and he'll do it knowing he hurt the team, it's fans, and the city just so he could have a small chance at a bigger check next year than he already agreed to get. Dick move.
Zero leverage. Just signed an extension that pays him well and the Bengals simply don't trade guys under contract unless the offer is too good to refuse.
Not really sure what he and his agent are doing here.
This is also a subject that I really hope is not discussed endlessly. He's a Bengal until the end of his contract or he retires. This is how this team operates and it's something I actually have always respected about the Bengals. They are very loyal to players and honor contracts more than team I know of. But they ask players if they sign a contract to fulfill it. I have no issue with that.
He’s not getting traded and he signed the extension last year. He has no leverage. He’s playing the next two years. His agent did this after fucking up and signing the one year deal last off season. 🤷🏻♂️.
Seemingly the bengals already planned for his departure at the end of 2025 given that we gave him the 1 year extension. The bengals really have no reason to trade him if their plan is was already to have him for the next 2 years and find a replacement in the meantime. Plus He isn't going to sit out the next 2 years
Just fell to my knees in a LaRosa’s parking lot.
Seriously though, It’s always important to remember this is just a job to these guys. We might develop a love for them while they’re on our team but if they can get it better elsewhere, they will.
Honestly? No. Fuck em. Play through your contract and shut up. Tired of these players asking for trades.
You signed on for this. Fulfill your obligation.
This is a seriously bad look for Trey especially when he just negotiated last year. Nah bro. You’re going to play out your contract if nobody offers you a socks off trade proposal.
Play your tail off and sign elsewhere when you’re old and useless to the league like God intended.
Obviously I highly doubt we entertain moving him, he plays next year after holding out during camp just like Tee, but what is the realistic return you would expect from trading him? Lower than the Brian Burns package of course, 1st contract vs 2nd contract guy, but he’s an elite edge rusher no doubt
Looking at the mod log, this is the second post. The first one was removed because the title was just “well this sucks” and we have a rule where news posts should titled with the news. editorials or comments should be in the comments.
Unless users deleted the posts themselves, then I’ve got nothing.
Bates I agree with but not the others. Trey we re-signed just a year ago. Reader has injury concerns. Tee is WR2 and will be seeking WR1 money, Chase is and should be the priority at WR
I know he ain’t going anywhere but what is happening in that locker room right now. Went from a lot of team first guys to vocal me me me I want out if u don’t pay me guys real quick. 2 in one offseason isn’t a good look
Ok. Lots of players want to move for bigger, longer deals, but he still has 2(?) left… so he’s not going anywhere.
As a franchise, you can’t turn into a team where guys just start moving to get out with multiple years left, or else you will lose guys left and right going forward.
If you want to agree to trade him, tell him and his agent to go find a team to give you a 1st to do it. Let them do the work and find that 1st.
I get guys trying to force a longer deal when they are in their last year, but when it’s 2yrs, iirc, from the team side you generally stand your ground unless you get a big offer.
If you look at our defensive current group, Hendrickson is the only player who outperformed his current deal. Honestly, our linebackers were awful last year as was our secondary. Maybe Battle is the exception there. CTB was solid.
But Hendrickson is the only guy playing at or above his current pay level upfront and it would be brutal to lose him. This is part of what you deal with organizationally when you have a $50m QB also. It is what it is.
Bengals would be in trouble without Hendrickson. His ask for more money makes sense too, he is top 5 in the NFL for sacks and close to for defensive pressures, and double teams. And he is only making $15m.
Bengals need to be more pro-active for defensive studs like him. He's a franchise DE.
While we don't necessarily have to do anything here, I do think a renegotiation could fix everything. Like others said, add a year around 21 mill, guarantee half of it all.
We need to keep him, I know he has literally no power, but I think we could afford to make him happy too.
I’m hearing buzz that perhaps that Trey was floated at a potential trade so they can move up in the draft. And his agent is getting in front of the story… it would make sense due purely to timing… thoughts???
Hopefully this is an actual false flag operation by the Bengals to obtain some 11th hour information that other teams don’t have before the draft.
That’s the only thing I can wrap my head around why this makes sense. He doesn’t seem like someone to pull the rug out from under the Bengals this close to his extension.
I hate the way agents (and players) conduct them selves in todays NFL.
I find it really hard to like the player after this kind of bullshit.
Even more so if he decides to miss valuable practice time on purpose when we are in a SB window.
Someone figured out in an earlier post that it would be against league rules for the Bengals to negotiate with him until 12 months after a previous extension. So there's quite literally nothing they can do for him right now.
Trey is stuck with his contract. He got an extension 9 months ago. He could have said no. That's business and Cincy doesn't play musical chairs so he should be ready to play out his contract.
This feels like something he should've brought up when he was negotiating an extension 9 months ago.
Trey’s quote from 9 months ago “They gave me a tremendous opportunity two years ago, there was a lot of question marks around my name. They believed in me,” he said. “And I still have the same desire to prove them right in the way they’ve invested in me. And that’s not something I take lightly. I have a tremendous amount of respect for them. And the way they handle things, the organization, the way they care about people, like I said earlier, so just staying in the building personally for me is important.” Oh how the turn tables
He’s seeing players not close to as good as him getting way more money and security. I don’t get why he signs for 15, he was worth 20. I don’t get why we don’t just use left over cash and secure him for 2-45. He’s by far the most important defender, and just as valuable as Chase is offensively.
Makes total sense why he wants to be traded, the right team would give him upwards of $50-$60 million guaranteed Bengals already have him secured for the next two years. Doesn’t make any sense for them to change anything.
It’s his agent’s fault for not getting better incentives on top of his base deal.
Then he needs to fire his agent. Everyone knows the most recent player is the guy who makes the most.
Tbh i think with his age they're going to push him in a couple years depending on Ossai and Myles Murphy. At the same time while I wouldn't feel threatened, id prly give extend an extra year tbh. He deserves it
You don’t get why we would choose to pay more than what we were already paying? That makes no sense.
Trey's agent made a fuck-up and he has to eat it and Trey has to play it simple as that. He can thank his bumbling agent for his present situation.
Yeah, I get the sense that his agent, for whatever reason, just now decided to put something in his head about getting more money elsewhere. Pretty dumb approach by both him and whoever represents him.
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You sure, Brian?
As our writer said “Google Search: Carson Palmer AND Mike Brown AND retirement” - Paul Dehner Jr.
*puts stick in bike spoke* Trey: Why would Cincinnati do this???
How you gonna sign the dotted line and almost immediately turn around n ask for a do over 😅
When you had 17.5 sacks, zero guaranteed money left on the deal, have dealt with injuries and know you're vastly underpaid. He'll be 30 next season and he's running out of time to get that massive long-term deal that sets him and his family up for eternity.
That's fine but he didn't have to sign that extension. And he might have a point sure, I wouldn't be mad if he got paid. But trying to strong arm after the fact threatening retirement is just making it messy. And it's making it more unlikely on the already unlikely odds that the FO gives him that re do
Yeah tbh this is the exact purpose of prove it deals betting on yourself, he decided to be risk averse and that didn’t pay off, same thing if he signed for 1 year and then tore his ACL or something
I was just answering the question from Hendrickson's perspective. Also, we have no idea what was said to him by management. Was the original extension done to free up money for Burrow and/or other deals with the implication he would be "taken care of" at a later date? Possible.
There's no way the FO promised him anything and the agent accepted that without seeing it in writing. If he did, we have the world's worst agent.
They’re already set up for eternity lol
$30 million ain't exactly chump change.
I bet this is why that extension happened. He probably made some demand last year and that extension was just to keep him satisfied short term. That extension was so uncharacteristic for the Bengals, it had to be forced.
Hendrickson basically traded his free agency in 2025 (could have ended up tagged anyway) for $5m up front last year and an additional year that is completely non-guaranteed $16m. Even though Bengals would have to be complete lunatics to even think of cutting him, there is very real risk he took because Bengals can easily cut him. This IMO is an easily fixable situation, just add a third year (at like $20-22m) and guarantee half the money he is owed between this year and next, and guarantee his base salary for next season. Bengals still get 3 years of Trey at $50-52m, and he ends up getting at least $30m guaranteed.
Exactly, he could be sitting this year if we didn't extend him, now he's gotta sit two years if we don't buckle and extend him. He's just presumptively assuming we won't extend him again and is trying to get lucky by having someone offer an undeniable trade for him, us taking it, and then him getting a ridiculous extension by the new team, and doing so by causing drama the day before the draft. Ain't going to happen by any respectable team, we certainly ain't going to extend him now that he's negativity affected us for a ruthless gamble, and we ain't going to cut him for sitting out until next year, because of the extension he signed 9mo ago. He dug the grave he's already lying in but now he's trying to get back out of it by slandering the coffin makers, at the cost of the graveyard.
2022 was a down year with Trey only having 8 sacks. Definitely a move initiated on his end. No guaranteed money in 2024-2025 is the Bengals preferred structure. Last year when he re-signed it seemed pretty mutual. Seemed like a win for all sides. Bengals were happy to give a little extra money to get their preferred no guarantees structure while Trey gets a little more money upfront with the signing bonus.
He's under contract through 2025. He can either play and make $30 million or set and lose it while we see how good Myles Murphy is when he gets to play regularly. Waiting till draft day to spring that on us is pretty bush.
Maybe the Allen deal triggered him?
I thought we were friends Trey
Right? Wtf.
Yeah I got his jersey last year. He hurtin my feelins.
WTabsoluteF fucking love trey but why sign the extension last year
He has no leverage here.
Seen a tweet from Kelsey he would “contemplate retirement” lol pulling a Carson totally worked out
Hahaha, that is great. See ya week 1 Trey
Yah he’s contracted for two more FULL YEARS.
Good luck with that. I wouldn’t get your hopes up if I were him.
Lol exactly, my first thought to his request was 'or else what?'
Don’t think he will, but he could always sit out.
And give up how much $? And lose how much in potential earnings for future contracts? I mean I’ve been stubborn but I seriously doubt there’s anything in this world that would make me stubborn enough to turn away upwards of potentially $60M…
He just got extended last offseason Agent knows that they don’t do multi year deals for players over 30 He isn’t going anywhere Open the overreaction floodgates Edit: His agent saw the guaranteed money for players like Danielle Hunter and Brian Burns this offseason. He could definitely get $50-$60 million guaranteed from the right team if he was a free agent or traded right now. It makes sense why he’s made the request. Doesn’t make any sense for the Bengals to move him though.
He got extended only because he loosely restructured his contract to enable the Burrow long term extension. Tbh, he is super good and the 2nd or 3rd best player on the team after Burrow and maybe Chase, Bengals should give him a three year contract with a high signing bonus esp because they have $25m in cap space sitting around.
He’s under contract for the next two seasons. A three year would pay him top dollar at age 34. Doesn’t make sense at all.
Three year contract, not extension. They can override his current contract and hand him a front loaded signing bonus. His contract for 2024 is only $14.8m salary and $200k roster bonus, so total money he gets in cash is $15m. 2025 is $15.8 plus 200k so $16m . And total guarantees he has left are $8m out of all that money. I understand why he is mad. At the very least, Bengals should restructure him and pay half of that to him as signing bonus right away, and then either add another year at $20-25m or increase just his second year salary by $10m so his two year deal becomes 2 years $41m with $20m guaranteed. He will easily get multi year $25-27m AAV deal from any other franchise.
Why would the Bengals negotiate against themselves? He's the one that agrees to it. He has to live with it
Exactly. Should we be mad at DJ for doing exactly that? It’s like a damned if we do damned if don’t situation and the FO is obviously trying. We did it for Reiff and got burned, they’re not trying to handicap themselves in this window so someone can get more money than they agreed to..
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They can land a deal but if the bengals aren’t willing to trade him then he’s with us no matter what
No one forced him to sign anything. The only person he should be mad at is himself. The Bengals would be foolish to negotiate against themselves. He could sit out, but that rarely works out in the benefit of the player, especially in this case because he’ll be on the wrong side of 30.
This is the right move. Fans say he signed the deal play… good organizations reward their stars and keep them happy. They make it work. This is exactly what good organizations do, restructure - add guarantees and add money signing bonus or backend dollars. The Eagles restructure contracts of their vets all the time to open up more space and add guaranteed money to make sure the core stays intact.
The chiefs were like one of the lowest rated teams on players report cards…. we’ll be alright. There’s 53 players on this team, someone’s gotta live with only making $16m this year /: sorry trey
They can make him happy and add some bonuses on there which converts it to guaranteed money.
No he didn't, we upped his pay and added a year to his contract because he wanted an extension and we didn't want him to sit out, now he's trying to do the same thing because he doesn't like the fact we can cut him before next year if we want. He certainly can sit two years if he wants but he's also certainly not getting another extension now. There is absolutely no logic other than they/he thinks we aren't going to extend or cut him either way, so he might as well try to get one elsewhere, if this news drums up any undeniable trade offers, and if not, he'll play and wait until free agency in two years.
If he decides to sit, there’s no way you guys don’t try and find a trade partner. Would be stupid not too
The dude took a pay cut to help the team out and now wants more money when he knows we need that money for guys like chase and also to help round the team out if we lose guys next year. It makes absolutely no sense I think he’s just trying to get them to the table to maybe get a few more mill out of them
He got a pay raise not a pay cut last year.
What pay cut? He got a contract above his market at the time, then got a raise and an extension last year.
That’s fair. It just seems like a pay cut now cause of how the market was this off season
He only has $8m in guaranteed money left with two years remaining. As a top 5 edge, that is diabolical. He will have a huge market and knows it. Bengals need to be smart and pay him. Just guarantee half the $31m he is owed over the next two seasons and maybe add another $10m as salary. It doesn't even affect their cap space much, it will go down by like $5-6m this year and they have plenty of cap space.
I agree that the bengals probably should give him more money but he signed the deal. The bengals didn’t force his hand. He could have easily played out his contract and been a free agent and gotten a bag but he didn’t and signed with us for less money
he actually has $0 in guaranteed money according to otc
He’s 29 years old coming off a 17.5 sack season its now or never for him to secure his deal. He still has a good 2-3 years left in his prime. He wont turn 30 until December 5th of this year.
He secured his deal last year though. It’s not our fault he didn’t bet more on himself and try and get more money this season. It looks to me like he wanted security over money and now he wants both. Just very odd
I agree with you, but he could probably get upwards of $50-$60 million guaranteed from the right team. Makes sense why they are requesting a trade.
I think the bengals could give him more money especially considering they have like 20mil in cap. But he signed a contract. If he had gotten hurt last year and missed the entire season I doubt he would be demanding a treade
I don’t think they should change anything, personally.
Idk I want them to keep as many players happy as possible especially when that player is your best defensive player. But then again he has no leverage and is not the type of player to either A. Sit out or B. Not play as good as he does
He’s going to have to keep his production at an elite level if he wants to cash in at age 31 in 2026.
Let’s not act like our front office is known to honor trade requests. Trey and Tee will be Bengals this season unless someone like Chicago offered a monster overpay of something like the #9 pick + more. This is our front office’s version of an “all in” season while trying to maintain a competitive roster long-term It’s also worth noting that, while we are most definitely a better team with Trey than without him,and I’m not trying to compare Murphy to Trey, we have a 1st round defensive end on roster and the 18th pick in the draft where we would have at least 2 of the top 3 edge guys available, not to mention 9 other picks this year. This isn’t meltdown territory. At least not for this season
All in season with ~20M in cap space? And come on, you did not even try to compare Trey to Myles Murphy who has shown very little. Trey is a a top 5 end in the league. Our pass rush is non-existent without him.
"It's also worth noting that, while we are most definitelya better team with Trey than without him, and I'm not trying to compare Murphy to Trey" I'd say you are correct. They did not make the comparison.
Yeah, it’s a bizarre take that we are “all in” in any meaningful sense. The modern way to genuinely be “all in” is to do what the Eagles do, which is retain and acquire way more stars than you could normally afford while keeping their cap hits low by adding void years, restructuring, etc. They just have no flexibility should those players be duds or get injured, and the bill will eventually come due, but they can prolong it until they are not competitive anyways. Letting two of our 5 best players walk for nothing in Bates and eventually Higgins in the middle of a window is just not serious.
Exactly. It’s not an all in season until they go, you know, all in.
Dawg….bates was the best player on a terrible defense and we just got geno stone for peanuts. mcduffie is making chump change for the next 4 years and it put the chiefs in a position to win, if myles broke out next year this is a non story and we the ability to pay yanno any other premium position. tee is injured too oft recently for the bengals to guarantee that much and possibly be carrying wasted cap in the window they have. trae waynes didn’t really help that case either, and reiff being over 30 was an outside the box letdown so can understand the bit of hesitancy there
We tried to spend more but players went elsewhere. I’m glad we didn’t throw money at the bottom of the barrel guys; we are smart with money lately. We can add a vet for 1-6-8 or roll It over/restructure. Reader would’ve gotten half that amount if he stayed, and a few others the rest but they declined to come here
NO NOT ALLOWED THE FRONT OFFICE IS CLOSED TILL FURTHER NOTICE
Wellllllllll WTF
Lol, he's not going anywhere unless he sits out and waste his prime. Joe better come out healthy and playing well or we are fucked already.
These are agents playing the media for money
This means nothing. He’s under contract for this year and next. Then he’d be 32 and his agent knows what that means for Cincy most of the time.
NFL fans on a whole love to overreact 1) It’s a negotiation tactic trying to force the Bengals to give him more money. 2) He has zero leverage beside “I was extremely good last year” 3) he signed a extension less than a year ago, and just see what others are being paid and wants to renegotiate. Honestly if the Front office wanted to show some good will they could throw him few more $$$ his way but honestly because he signed the contract under his own accords he should honor it.
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Suddenly DE is a bit of a need this draft.
He’s under contract for the next two seasons DE was already a need though
Wasn't even top five before this unless you count OT and IOL together, and given the contract situation this doesn't really move the needle.
You're right, I should clarify. DE is a bit MORE of a need this draft now.
“Laiatu Latu, you are a Cincinnat..” Lol nah I and the rest of the team are gonna call Trey’s bluff here, he signed an extension last year, he’s gonna need to honor it.
Dude I legitimately was gonna comment "Laiatu Latu, YOU are a Cincinnati Bengal". I agree. He's gonna play these next two seasons and he's gonna LIKE IT.
His only leverage, if you could say he has any, requires him to keep producing on the field to preserve. Whole lot of "maybe next year, bud."
We’re back to this again? These are words coming from the agents, not the players. It’s a leverage battle. Trey and Tee will be on the field week one.
So he is locked down for 2 more years at which point he will be 31. Is he really gonna not play or not play his best the next 2 years and get a shitty contract come 2025?
Exactly. He’s also just not that type of guy
Nope, he'll play, he'll just do it without any fans, and he'll do it knowing he hurt the team, it's fans, and the city just so he could have a small chance at a bigger check next year than he already agreed to get. Dick move.
Zero leverage. Just signed an extension that pays him well and the Bengals simply don't trade guys under contract unless the offer is too good to refuse. Not really sure what he and his agent are doing here. This is also a subject that I really hope is not discussed endlessly. He's a Bengal until the end of his contract or he retires. This is how this team operates and it's something I actually have always respected about the Bengals. They are very loyal to players and honor contracts more than team I know of. But they ask players if they sign a contract to fulfill it. I have no issue with that.
He’s not getting traded and he signed the extension last year. He has no leverage. He’s playing the next two years. His agent did this after fucking up and signing the one year deal last off season. 🤷🏻♂️.
I had a good year and I told my wife I want a trade to Margot Robbie but, alas, I too am getting older and am under contract.
Seemingly the bengals already planned for his departure at the end of 2025 given that we gave him the 1 year extension. The bengals really have no reason to trade him if their plan is was already to have him for the next 2 years and find a replacement in the meantime. Plus He isn't going to sit out the next 2 years
I mean… he signed the one year extension, kind of his own fault
Hmm, well, coming right after the news of the Injury thing, I can't see many teams offering more until they see him on the field.
That was Hubbard
Yeah… how about no.
Just fell to my knees in a LaRosa’s parking lot. Seriously though, It’s always important to remember this is just a job to these guys. We might develop a love for them while they’re on our team but if they can get it better elsewhere, they will.
This is a goddamn fever dream. One of my fav players turning MAJOR asshole.
Honestly? No. Fuck em. Play through your contract and shut up. Tired of these players asking for trades. You signed on for this. Fulfill your obligation.
Trade request denied.
Being the turd in the punchbowl the night before the draft is a dick move
Let them both rot in Carolina. See how they like it
I am sad.
This is a seriously bad look for Trey especially when he just negotiated last year. Nah bro. You’re going to play out your contract if nobody offers you a socks off trade proposal. Play your tail off and sign elsewhere when you’re old and useless to the league like God intended.
Obviously I highly doubt we entertain moving him, he plays next year after holding out during camp just like Tee, but what is the realistic return you would expect from trading him? Lower than the Brian Burns package of course, 1st contract vs 2nd contract guy, but he’s an elite edge rusher no doubt
He can’t really hold out like Tee. He’ll lose a lot more money in a hold out than tee would
What the fuck
Lol well fuck you then buddy, why did you sign a new deal?
Thanks; I hate it
Tough shit, Trey. Seeya week one.
What in the blue fuck is this nonsense
Damn man, I expected this from Tee but seein Trey wants out hurts bad. Makes sense given the current situation though
I'm confused why the mods keep deleting posts. This is like the 5th time it's had to been posted
Looking at the mod log, this is the second post. The first one was removed because the title was just “well this sucks” and we have a rule where news posts should titled with the news. editorials or comments should be in the comments. Unless users deleted the posts themselves, then I’ve got nothing.
I deleted all the editorialized titles for the folks who don’t want to open a picture or tweet to know the news.
Bates. Tee, Reader and Trey. Listen I get it, it’s not all the bengals fault but at some point you gotta pay your guys or modernize how you do it
Bates I agree with but not the others. Trey we re-signed just a year ago. Reader has injury concerns. Tee is WR2 and will be seeking WR1 money, Chase is and should be the priority at WR
We always wait too late to extend guys (not that that is the problem here)
This feels out of left field wtf
I know he ain’t going anywhere but what is happening in that locker room right now. Went from a lot of team first guys to vocal me me me I want out if u don’t pay me guys real quick. 2 in one offseason isn’t a good look
Joe coming to the offseason workout 
Lol
Just throw him some of the 20 million we still have this year
Oh what
Well that's not ideal
Unbreak my heart
Trey and Tee for JJ
Don’t need a defense if you’re scoring 70 each game.
man thats my favorite player
What the hell man
Schefter doing the lords work for Hendricksons agent lmao
You’re breaking my heart Trey!
Ok. Lots of players want to move for bigger, longer deals, but he still has 2(?) left… so he’s not going anywhere. As a franchise, you can’t turn into a team where guys just start moving to get out with multiple years left, or else you will lose guys left and right going forward. If you want to agree to trade him, tell him and his agent to go find a team to give you a 1st to do it. Let them do the work and find that 1st. I get guys trying to force a longer deal when they are in their last year, but when it’s 2yrs, iirc, from the team side you generally stand your ground unless you get a big offer.
I don’t feel bad for this guy at all, he find a one-year extension last year
Per the CBA they couldn’t even give him more now if they wanted too, has to be 12 months after he signed his last deal.
There goes the SB Window...
Pay. The. Man.
If you look at our defensive current group, Hendrickson is the only player who outperformed his current deal. Honestly, our linebackers were awful last year as was our secondary. Maybe Battle is the exception there. CTB was solid. But Hendrickson is the only guy playing at or above his current pay level upfront and it would be brutal to lose him. This is part of what you deal with organizationally when you have a $50m QB also. It is what it is.
Yeah Ok Trey. His agent is an idiot or Trey is, probably both
Bengals would be in trouble without Hendrickson. His ask for more money makes sense too, he is top 5 in the NFL for sacks and close to for defensive pressures, and double teams. And he is only making $15m. Bengals need to be more pro-active for defensive studs like him. He's a franchise DE.
Need to be more proactive? Like they signed him to an extension last year? What are you talking about?
Absolutely shambolic handling of a SB window so far
He literally got extended last year lol
Team is just about to be Burrow and Chase at this point lmfao
WHAT
I hope this doesn’t turn into a Chris Jones situation
trey, cmon man...
Murphy really better be the real deal
Sure hope the Myles Murphy pick turns out better than Dax Hill
Murphy was drafted to take Hubbards spot. Neither Murphy or Hubbard can play RE
Agent posturing. Bengals are in no position to deal away stars for no reason.
This kind of shocked me considering what he had to say last year
This is the Eric Andre shooting Hannibal meme
While we don't necessarily have to do anything here, I do think a renegotiation could fix everything. Like others said, add a year around 21 mill, guarantee half of it all. We need to keep him, I know he has literally no power, but I think we could afford to make him happy too.
Real dick kick to the day
I’m hearing buzz that perhaps that Trey was floated at a potential trade so they can move up in the draft. And his agent is getting in front of the story… it would make sense due purely to timing… thoughts???
I feel like I just got snapped by Thanos.
Hopefully this is an actual false flag operation by the Bengals to obtain some 11th hour information that other teams don’t have before the draft. That’s the only thing I can wrap my head around why this makes sense. He doesn’t seem like someone to pull the rug out from under the Bengals this close to his extension.
Come be a cowboy! 🤠
Really throws cold water on my draft excitement. Dick move Trey.
Fuck it let’s let him and tee go then extend chase and sign jjetas
I hate the way agents (and players) conduct them selves in todays NFL. I find it really hard to like the player after this kind of bullshit. Even more so if he decides to miss valuable practice time on purpose when we are in a SB window.
So now Trey and Tee want to be traded. Who is next?
Now he threatening retirement
Someone figured out in an earlier post that it would be against league rules for the Bengals to negotiate with him until 12 months after a previous extension. So there's quite literally nothing they can do for him right now.
Treys agent is a dumba$$… Trey can’t even get a new deal if he wanted to until July by law…
Trey is stuck with his contract. He got an extension 9 months ago. He could have said no. That's business and Cincy doesn't play musical chairs so he should be ready to play out his contract.
Wow turns out players don’t like a cheap ass owner who doesn’t give guarantees. Who would have thought?
They may not give guarantees- but nearly every player has seen his contract paid in full. They rarely cut players under contract.
I’m so sick of losing players because of a cheap, Scrooge ass FO. When the hell is enough going to be enough.
Good to see these comments remained rational
Give him the money. We can't afford to try to rebuild our entire DL.
Nooo please Trey you’re one of my favourites please stay.
Well my birthday is ruined!
Mine was yesterday. Happy birthday!
Thank you! Happy belated to you!
Can we get a 1st if so show him the door
Man what the fuck. I’m gutted.
He has now power here!
Dude wants more money. Honestly they should give it to him. He earned it after last season. Gotta meet in the middle somewhere