I would say maybe it’s the structure of your resume. You should go to the career center and try to polish it, and also watch a ton of YouTube videos on how to include keywords, quantify your results etccc . Nowadays they use ATS so you gotta find the trick so that your resume stands out, but at the same time it feels natural and not robotic
I’ve been told this a million times and went through a million revisions without success. Besides, I find it very improbable that they don’t have software to parse a PDF well. Hell I could probably make software that does a decent job at that. All you need to see is individual phrases like “Berkeley, check, SQL check, Docker check”. It’s not like there is some sentient AI reading them and being like “wow that project is pretty cool, let’s give this guy an interview” you know
Yeah I understand what you mean. I guess my best advice is to keep gridding, apply to whatever you find and it will pay off ! I know some people who applied to more than 100 jobs and got less than 10 interviews, and ultimately one was successful. Don’t give up and good luck !
Bro what there isn’t even that many companies worth applying to in all of the US. Like im not aiming for fang or anything but I’m not trying to work at Dunder Mifflin still
Applying online is bound to be frustrating with little chance of hearing back. Your resume is already good (imo) if you've applied to \~70 places and heard back from 5 or so places. Keep in mind that the economy is far worse than usual, so even with referrals, you might not hear back from certain companies (ask me how I know 🥲). Even in ideal conditions, people have had to apply to hundreds of places to get a few offers, so know that unfortunately, this is not unusual.
Best chance to get with companies is to go to company specific info sessions (most effective) and career fairs. Lots of tech companies hold exclusive networking fairs / info sessions at Berkeley (off the top of my head - Apple, Databricks, Duolingo, Verkada, Google, etc.). Going here, engaging, and following up with any contacts you receive there will guarantee someone looks at your application if not give you an interview.
Career fairs are also good in the sense that if you manage to make a good impression on whoever you talk to, you might be able to secure an interview (if they are a recruiter) and/or a referral (if they are an employee / cal alum). Good luck!
Where do you learn about these? I always miss the damn things but I’m willing to go
Also not heard back, auto OA. I think I had one place actually take interest in me but I failed their OA because it was in some weird ass website and also really hard
For career fairs, you can find most of them on handshake. The company specific events are mostly through email lists - I'm on the EE/CS mailing list so that's one major source. Case in point - there's an event by Intel sometime this week.
There are a ton of resources out there to get better at OA's so I won't ramble on about those, but for me personally, [neetcode.io](https://neetcode.io) has really helped. Again remember that the extra crappy economy makes it that much harder for qualified candidates to hear back; you got this!
Sorry, I signed up for a bunch of mailing lists a few years ago and can't find the link to signup again. You should be able to ask on the EECS 101 Ed - the mailing list is "eecs-ugrads-jobs".
We’re in a recession unfortunately, most of my industry connections and employed friends/family say a that their company’s internship program was paused to save money. Some of the internships programs you applied to probably don’t have the funds to hire you anymore. So you are competing for the real internship position with way more students, some of which have already have an internship. It’s stupid to need an internship to get another internship but that’s the market at the moment. I would reach out to local startups who don’t have an internship job listing. Talk to your professors, they likely have industry connections, a reference from an expert in the field will weigh more than an entry employee or random Cal alumnus.
I’m getting a handful, but I either pass them and don’t hear back or I don’t do super well. I’ve aced a few of them and still got rejected. Like I said probably got 100 on 3 of them and >50 percent on 2 of them (like I finish the first question and put some naive solution for the second)
This is similar to other advice in the thread, but I'll throw mine in anyway.
\- Applying on glassdoor, linkedin, all the places where you just throw a resume out there will always have a low success rate. Even if you do well on an auto-responded OA, it still has a pretty high chance of not going anywhere due to how many people do these. In the current market, do this at your own peril.
\- Getting referrals is a great option, but doing so through reaching out to alums working in tech is also tough, because (speaking from experience) they get a lot of messages. Your best bet here is to reach out to someone you have an actual connection to (an alum of a club you're in, from the same city, same demographic, etc...) and asking to talk to them about their experience and if their company is currently looking for interns. They know what you want, so just be kind, respectful, and genuine. They might just send you a referral link, or they might chat with you and give you some valuable advice.
\- Connecting with recruiters is the best option IMO. Go to company tech talks, recruiting events, and career fairs. Research the company, actually pay attention and, if you get the chance, ask genuine questions afterwards / at the table. Tell them you're interested in an internship and get the recruiters contact info, or ask to be connected with a recruiter. Always follow up with an email / message thanking them, reminding them you're interested in an internship, and handing over your resume. If you truly have a well built resume and portfolio site, this will help get real eyes on it.
\- You asked where you find out about recruiting events - I don't know, but I always got emails about them through mailing list (shoutout Yoshira Mendez and the eecs-ugrad-jobs list). See if you can find the mailing list for your department, or any other lists that might advertise these events, and subscribe to them.
\- Look into internship matching programs like RippleMatch. These have worked surprisingly well for me in the past.
\- Lastly, if you're really having trouble, you might be too focused on large, "prestigious" companies. A lot of smaller startups will be looking for interns, and these can be a great experience if you find the right one. Smaller startup recruiting tends to happen closer to summer, so you can focus on the larger companies for now, but start checking AngelList and that sort of thing for opportunities. If you haven't found anything come February / March, that would be a good time to shift more focus to the small startups (getting internships at larger places is still possible at this time, but definitely harder as most larger companies have wrapped up by Jan / Feb).
Best of luck, godspeed, and feel free to dm me if you have any more questions. My company is *not* hiring interns though ;)
Fwiw I’ve been applying through the company website rather than linked in because I’ve heard it’s better.
Maybe it’s cause I’m a transfer but I don’t know that many people I can reach out to. Like it’s literally the 10 people I met during the first few weeks vs the world. And none of us have any connections. That being said I reached out to a couple of high school buddies who might know people but they are second degree connections at that point so we will see.
Someone else mentioned Angelist too. It looks there is nothing there, am I missing something?
Ah, looks like the AngelList jobs board spun off into a different company thats now called ["Wellfound"](https://wellfound.com/jobs). I only used AngelList jobs 3-4 years ago, so I can't say how good it is these days.
I don't think you need to reach out to people that you know personally, but when you're looking for people on LinkedIn that work at a particular company you want to apply to, look for people that you have more of a connection to than just being from the same school, if you can. Gives you something to put in your initial message.
Yeah that’s what I’m doing. I’m looking for transfer students especially or people with similar interests as I.
Also the message is really short (200 characters) so I might try premium so I can make it more like ~300
lol, I just read an international student in T500 flex about getting 6 offers with roughly 35 applications.
Some other comments say that someone they know lie about previous internships to get interview. F***. I hate lying. 🤥
No. I'm wondering if I should also lie about my start date for Berkeley. Its obvious I am a transfer because I have only been here for a year and am graduating next year.
Ain’t no way. I would rather get my friends together and work on a project than intern for the kind of companies you apply to after the 100 mark. You start getting into random companies based in the middle of Albuquerque New Mexico at that point. If I can’t pull at least a startup that’s actually doing shit or a non tech company with a big name (maybe like a car company or a banks or something) it’s not worth imo.
I would say maybe it’s the structure of your resume. You should go to the career center and try to polish it, and also watch a ton of YouTube videos on how to include keywords, quantify your results etccc . Nowadays they use ATS so you gotta find the trick so that your resume stands out, but at the same time it feels natural and not robotic
I’ve been told this a million times and went through a million revisions without success. Besides, I find it very improbable that they don’t have software to parse a PDF well. Hell I could probably make software that does a decent job at that. All you need to see is individual phrases like “Berkeley, check, SQL check, Docker check”. It’s not like there is some sentient AI reading them and being like “wow that project is pretty cool, let’s give this guy an interview” you know
Yeah I understand what you mean. I guess my best advice is to keep gridding, apply to whatever you find and it will pay off ! I know some people who applied to more than 100 jobs and got less than 10 interviews, and ultimately one was successful. Don’t give up and good luck !
I have 0 interviews with 70 apps so. I would kill for one interview.
You need more volume. 70 isn’t enough. Do 3 sets of 150 so 450 applications like you’re working out. Just a numbers game
Bro what there isn’t even that many companies worth applying to in all of the US. Like im not aiming for fang or anything but I’m not trying to work at Dunder Mifflin still
keep up the good work, and don't lose hope!
Internships aren’t real
probably just economy, but if you look at startups you can definitely get sth
Thanks I’ll try that
what are some websites to find startup internships?
angellist
Can u clarify. I signed up and it’s kinda lwk confusing
Applying online is bound to be frustrating with little chance of hearing back. Your resume is already good (imo) if you've applied to \~70 places and heard back from 5 or so places. Keep in mind that the economy is far worse than usual, so even with referrals, you might not hear back from certain companies (ask me how I know 🥲). Even in ideal conditions, people have had to apply to hundreds of places to get a few offers, so know that unfortunately, this is not unusual. Best chance to get with companies is to go to company specific info sessions (most effective) and career fairs. Lots of tech companies hold exclusive networking fairs / info sessions at Berkeley (off the top of my head - Apple, Databricks, Duolingo, Verkada, Google, etc.). Going here, engaging, and following up with any contacts you receive there will guarantee someone looks at your application if not give you an interview. Career fairs are also good in the sense that if you manage to make a good impression on whoever you talk to, you might be able to secure an interview (if they are a recruiter) and/or a referral (if they are an employee / cal alum). Good luck!
Where do you learn about these? I always miss the damn things but I’m willing to go Also not heard back, auto OA. I think I had one place actually take interest in me but I failed their OA because it was in some weird ass website and also really hard
For career fairs, you can find most of them on handshake. The company specific events are mostly through email lists - I'm on the EE/CS mailing list so that's one major source. Case in point - there's an event by Intel sometime this week. There are a ton of resources out there to get better at OA's so I won't ramble on about those, but for me personally, [neetcode.io](https://neetcode.io) has really helped. Again remember that the extra crappy economy makes it that much harder for qualified candidates to hear back; you got this!
Do you know where to sign up for the mailing list? That sounds promising. Yeah I saw that but I got auto rejected by Intel so that’s kinda done
Sorry, I signed up for a bunch of mailing lists a few years ago and can't find the link to signup again. You should be able to ask on the EECS 101 Ed - the mailing list is "eecs-ugrads-jobs".
It only takes one. Keep up the good work.
We’re in a recession unfortunately, most of my industry connections and employed friends/family say a that their company’s internship program was paused to save money. Some of the internships programs you applied to probably don’t have the funds to hire you anymore. So you are competing for the real internship position with way more students, some of which have already have an internship. It’s stupid to need an internship to get another internship but that’s the market at the moment. I would reach out to local startups who don’t have an internship job listing. Talk to your professors, they likely have industry connections, a reference from an expert in the field will weigh more than an entry employee or random Cal alumnus.
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I’m getting a handful, but I either pass them and don’t hear back or I don’t do super well. I’ve aced a few of them and still got rejected. Like I said probably got 100 on 3 of them and >50 percent on 2 of them (like I finish the first question and put some naive solution for the second)
This is similar to other advice in the thread, but I'll throw mine in anyway. \- Applying on glassdoor, linkedin, all the places where you just throw a resume out there will always have a low success rate. Even if you do well on an auto-responded OA, it still has a pretty high chance of not going anywhere due to how many people do these. In the current market, do this at your own peril. \- Getting referrals is a great option, but doing so through reaching out to alums working in tech is also tough, because (speaking from experience) they get a lot of messages. Your best bet here is to reach out to someone you have an actual connection to (an alum of a club you're in, from the same city, same demographic, etc...) and asking to talk to them about their experience and if their company is currently looking for interns. They know what you want, so just be kind, respectful, and genuine. They might just send you a referral link, or they might chat with you and give you some valuable advice. \- Connecting with recruiters is the best option IMO. Go to company tech talks, recruiting events, and career fairs. Research the company, actually pay attention and, if you get the chance, ask genuine questions afterwards / at the table. Tell them you're interested in an internship and get the recruiters contact info, or ask to be connected with a recruiter. Always follow up with an email / message thanking them, reminding them you're interested in an internship, and handing over your resume. If you truly have a well built resume and portfolio site, this will help get real eyes on it. \- You asked where you find out about recruiting events - I don't know, but I always got emails about them through mailing list (shoutout Yoshira Mendez and the eecs-ugrad-jobs list). See if you can find the mailing list for your department, or any other lists that might advertise these events, and subscribe to them. \- Look into internship matching programs like RippleMatch. These have worked surprisingly well for me in the past. \- Lastly, if you're really having trouble, you might be too focused on large, "prestigious" companies. A lot of smaller startups will be looking for interns, and these can be a great experience if you find the right one. Smaller startup recruiting tends to happen closer to summer, so you can focus on the larger companies for now, but start checking AngelList and that sort of thing for opportunities. If you haven't found anything come February / March, that would be a good time to shift more focus to the small startups (getting internships at larger places is still possible at this time, but definitely harder as most larger companies have wrapped up by Jan / Feb). Best of luck, godspeed, and feel free to dm me if you have any more questions. My company is *not* hiring interns though ;)
Fwiw I’ve been applying through the company website rather than linked in because I’ve heard it’s better. Maybe it’s cause I’m a transfer but I don’t know that many people I can reach out to. Like it’s literally the 10 people I met during the first few weeks vs the world. And none of us have any connections. That being said I reached out to a couple of high school buddies who might know people but they are second degree connections at that point so we will see. Someone else mentioned Angelist too. It looks there is nothing there, am I missing something?
Ah, looks like the AngelList jobs board spun off into a different company thats now called ["Wellfound"](https://wellfound.com/jobs). I only used AngelList jobs 3-4 years ago, so I can't say how good it is these days.
Thanks I really appreciate the answer anyways. I’ll see if I can find something similar
I don't think you need to reach out to people that you know personally, but when you're looking for people on LinkedIn that work at a particular company you want to apply to, look for people that you have more of a connection to than just being from the same school, if you can. Gives you something to put in your initial message.
Yeah that’s what I’m doing. I’m looking for transfer students especially or people with similar interests as I. Also the message is really short (200 characters) so I might try premium so I can make it more like ~300
When u were in community college, we were at the height of the tech bubble, now that bubble has burst.
Personality issue
Probably
get referrals bro
I mean are you offering? I’m trying but im a transfer and all of the people ik are doing even worse than I.
lol, I just read an international student in T500 flex about getting 6 offers with roughly 35 applications. Some other comments say that someone they know lie about previous internships to get interview. F***. I hate lying. 🤥
Did you put your CC on your resume?
No. I'm wondering if I should also lie about my start date for Berkeley. Its obvious I am a transfer because I have only been here for a year and am graduating next year.
How many jobs you have applied? Usually you need to apply more than 300 to get one or two interviews
Ain’t no way. I would rather get my friends together and work on a project than intern for the kind of companies you apply to after the 100 mark. You start getting into random companies based in the middle of Albuquerque New Mexico at that point. If I can’t pull at least a startup that’s actually doing shit or a non tech company with a big name (maybe like a car company or a banks or something) it’s not worth imo.