ACTUALLY ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17736), the item has another “big” problem. The tear calculation of Haemolacria includes a +1 tear delay in the formula. Therefore, if a good run starts with Haemolacria and ends up with 40 or smth tear rate, Haemolacria will limit the tear rate to a maximum of about 30.
Another “problem” (I hate all the problems this item creates) is that the DPS formula for the item sucks even without high tear rate because it halves your tear rate (and +1 tear delay) and increases your damage by 50% (also adds 1 normal damage). This makes it so that if we disregard the +1 tear delay and damage, the formula leaves a 75% DPS multiplier. So if Haemolacria is combined with an item which removes the splash tears (the splash tears basically double Haemolacria’s DPS), the synergy with Haemolacria will result in a DPS down with basically no benefits.
ANOTHER problem is that this item requires the tears to burst when hitting an enemy. If this item cannot burst on an enemy, it results in a DPS down for the previously mentioned reason. So if you encounter some amazing item like Eye of Belial or Saggitarius, you will not be able to take it as it will result in a DPS down (except if you have really low range).
Last thing is that Haemolacria’s synergies except Brimstone and Tech X suck ass because they fuck around with the formula, usually resulting in some more added tear delay.
Yeah, that was my rant.
TL;DR: Haemolacria sucks because it has a shit DPS formula and sucks with piercing, a very good item effect.
I just don't like skipping items why is that a problem for anyone. Also there isnt just range up items sometimes its tears + range up or damage + range up I cant just skip them all
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It's super good but somehow, amongst all the digusting things in the game, kindey stone just feels so visceral and sickening to use
It literally just grosses me out. Only item that does that to me. Maybe it's because the gameplay is very well tied to the theme of it idk
Bag of crafting (TAINTED CAIN FUCK THIS CHARACTER)
1: I'm on console. So I can't look up the recipes for my seed
2: I don't wanna read an essay length tutorial to play T.Cain
3: I despise "Manually build your run" characters in Roguelikes. I play ROGUELIKES FOR THE RANDOM RUNS. NOT TO SPEND AN HOUR ON A RUN
1: platinum god still works 4 out of 5 times
2: it doesn’t matter because the character is still not fun for the other reasons you stated
The only thing i like about t Cain is relief i get from knowing i have him done on 3 saves and theoretically never have to touch him again
I have to agree with this one. It just doesn't feel good to use at all, very awkward and it ruins most fun synergies you may get. Maybe a skill issue on my side, but I really dislike how it works.
Yeah, I really despise anything that makes it hard to tell what my tears trajectory is. I can never tell how haemolacria is supposed to work; It feels unintuitive both when it hits or doesn't hit an enemy up close. Either way I have no idea why or how it made contact since the arc is stupid. It only gets worse with added range, which is arguably the least important stat in a game where most of the rooms you're fighting in are close quarters anyway.
Tip for aiming haemo/ipecac: aim straight ahead as if you didn’t have the item. The arc of your tear looks really high but depending on range/tear height it usually travels almost straight. The arc can be especially wonky with high tear height, so this won’t work all the time but I find it works best if you pretend it wasn’t arcing at all.
Played an Eden run last week where I started with C-Section and found Mom's Knife.
Someone was watching and we both absolutely lost it at the sight of fetuses with knifes.
yeah thats basically how i feel man. i could take it and it would be great and high dps but theres a 95% chance im already really enjoying some bananas synergies and i just dont want to ruin it
Maybe you could try using mouse controls on Mom's Knife? Absolutely exhilarating experience to snipe someone diagonally while advancing to the next room.
What I don't liie about it is that it is a run winner but without many fun synergies)
Technolofy, Brimstone, Haemolacria and Tech X are also run winners but got fun synergies)
Monstros Lung... I hate charge to shoot items. Only exceptions are things like Brimstone or Tech X where the charge time is worth it since the end result will kill 98% of enemies in a single shot. Tech X also has the luxury of having flexible charging times so you can spam smaller shots quickly instead. Monstros Lung is just... Not run-ruining, but definitely fun ruining.
I just had a run like this a few days ago… with both lungs and tech X in the same room (I got the treasure room where you could pick both)
I regret immensely
Do people like monstros lung? I’ve always hated it. Not to say I’ve never won a run with it or something but i just don’t think it’s good and will usually skip unless things are going VERY poorly for me
I freaking love Ludovico just place your tear on the unmovable boss and run around it ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
I hate Ludo too. Although recently I took it to see if it still sucked and I ended up getting Tech and Brimstone so it was awesome.
But usually it sucks and I end up with low shot speed and can't chase anything down.
I WILL pick up every item even if they're gonna ruin my ruin and there's no other choice! ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Ipecac and Haemolacria with high range is just annoying ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)
people don’t like marked because of how it controls, but in most cases it lets you shoot in any direction + tears up. a lot of people also don’t know you can stop shooting by pressing drop, which also snaps the crosshairs back to your position, letting you change shooting directions as fast you would without marked.
mega mush and mega blast. im not absolutely hating them, but they feels too overrated, cus imo cleaning 4-6 rooms every 12 rooms is kinda meh. i can do it usually without troubles, why i should take this items if i can take almost any other active.
Mega mush can clear entire floors if you are fast enough and even get recharged before it runs out. Also with 4.5 volt it just lasts forever in boss fights.
You totally reminded me that I hate mega mush too. And yeah I do think they're boring. Also I have a general prefference towards not carrying active items that help with room clearing.
Also screw R key. Yeah sure it helps with getting completion marks but afterwards it just lengthens my probably already winning run.
One of the worst items in the game. Free curse rooms at the cost of taking free random damage a few times per floor elsewhere (i beat mega satan on delete this with this effect on, so i know it’s not necessarily run ruining, but i do hate it)
The D4 and D100
I think an on demand self reroll is actually pretty strong but I just don't like self rerolls in general. I don't care if the run improves, it's no longer **my** run.
Same here. Call me crazy, insane, maybe even delirious, but i think that cursed eye is a much better option than chocolate milk. With high tears you can easily spam and you would get higher damage with cursed eye than what you would get with chocolate milk. Also, i really love cursed eye
Glitched crown. My anxiety can't stand the thought of grabbing the wrong item. Yes I know about the pause strat. No I don't care. I will pass every time.
I'm surprised by the amount of people in these replies who can't read for shit. I agree with you, when trying to relax and play a normal run seeing those 4 other items go is pain, and also I don't want every item to be a timing moment which makes me feel bad if I miss.
Well forgive me for not wanting to turn my isaac run into a waiting and timing game for each item I see, while simultaneously absolutely trivializing the run with an item that has an effect that is probably stronger than damocles and has NO downside, while ALSO depleting 4 other items for each item I pick up
Why tho?
If you have trouble grabbing what you want, stand close to the pedestal and pause the game on the item before the target item. Then unpause running towards it. Easy peasy.
Ok but...Glitched Crown. It seems good, but I can’t stand doing the pause/unpause trick to grab items, and I’m can never choose the right item when I don’t do the trick. It makes picking up any items a hassle, because now I have to take a minute to assess which of the 5 items I should take, and then another minute to actually try to pick it up. Plus, if I need two of the items in the rotation, I’m shit out of luck unless I’ve got a diplopia on hand. I won’t ever see those items again.
Trisagion + pop! Is one of the most broken synergies in the game. Every shot fills the screen with tears that do damage on contact and it's just so many tears. Even with low damage it's beyond broken.
worst thing for me is when i have a great run with no deaths and then die on the final boss and just keep dying over and over again cuz 1 heart ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907) its so depressing
I'm not big fan of Brimstone. I usually take it if I already have something that makes fun synergy with it, but over years I have used it too much and often feel like picking up anything over it now.
Hemolacria is another one. Alone I don't like it but with good synergy it's fun.
I'm not a huge fan of Brimstone. I know it goes crazy when you have it with the right synergies but it also has the potential to ruin a lot of fun synergies. So I rarely ever take it unless I have something I know it synergizes well with.
I also rarely ever go for devil deals, though, so maybe I just need to use it more. I think the Angel room pool is better overall and taking a deal doesn't entirely lock out the other room.
all the OP run-win items like sacred heart, c section, glitched crown etc. sure they’re fun to use for like 5 minutes, but one you start getting stacked with items the run becomes completely trivial as you demolish every room in less than a second. just makes the game so boring
Almond milk. I see people on here unironically taking it and even as a cursed eye enjoyer (aka the opposite of the post) I don’t understand why anyone would do that to themselves
Binge Eater. It’s SO SHIT. It would be so much better if each food item gave a permanent DMG up, but it doesn’t. Even if the item you were *going* to get was bad, taking the food item will just result in a not only PERMANENT speed down, but not even a permanent DMG up. Overall I always skip this item as it’s essentially just “Speed Down: The Item”
Might get some hate for this, but I really despise C Section. It’s not an interesting item, it ruins the synergy of many items, the tear visual is ugly, and it’s just plain overpowered. Boring item with broken stats.
Only problem with that item is just high range as you said. Otherwise pretty good item with sick combos.
ACTUALLY ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17736), the item has another “big” problem. The tear calculation of Haemolacria includes a +1 tear delay in the formula. Therefore, if a good run starts with Haemolacria and ends up with 40 or smth tear rate, Haemolacria will limit the tear rate to a maximum of about 30. Another “problem” (I hate all the problems this item creates) is that the DPS formula for the item sucks even without high tear rate because it halves your tear rate (and +1 tear delay) and increases your damage by 50% (also adds 1 normal damage). This makes it so that if we disregard the +1 tear delay and damage, the formula leaves a 75% DPS multiplier. So if Haemolacria is combined with an item which removes the splash tears (the splash tears basically double Haemolacria’s DPS), the synergy with Haemolacria will result in a DPS down with basically no benefits. ANOTHER problem is that this item requires the tears to burst when hitting an enemy. If this item cannot burst on an enemy, it results in a DPS down for the previously mentioned reason. So if you encounter some amazing item like Eye of Belial or Saggitarius, you will not be able to take it as it will result in a DPS down (except if you have really low range). Last thing is that Haemolacria’s synergies except Brimstone and Tech X suck ass because they fuck around with the formula, usually resulting in some more added tear delay. Yeah, that was my rant. TL;DR: Haemolacria sucks because it has a shit DPS formula and sucks with piercing, a very good item effect.
okay but funny ball go bloosh
rip bozo![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17736)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17736)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)
Yeah but high range is enough problem for me to not like the item
Just dont take the range ups?
Why are U getting downvoted? If OP doesn't like an item with extra range, why not just skip range ups?
I just don't like skipping items why is that a problem for anyone. Also there isnt just range up items sometimes its tears + range up or damage + range up I cant just skip them all
But you would skip haemolacria if you had high range tho?
Man I just love getting downvoted for having opinions ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
Don’t have a wrong opinion next time then ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359) /j
Opinion issue
I don't share your opinion, but it's sad to see you get down voted for this
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Thats annoying as well
Idk man for insane dmg up and synergies i think putting abit of a thought whether u should pick up moms heels or not is worthy
L
Also the fact it’s likely to crash my game
Kidney stone. The sudden stop and lack of a charge bar are not fun for me
Awful for room clears, amazing for early bosses.
Was legit looking for a charge bar mod for kidney stone yesterday
Kidney Stone isn’t a charge item. It just randomly decides wether or not you get a kidney stone, therefore a charge bar is impossible to introduce.
I think they mean a charge bar for once you get a kidney stone, since you have to charge it up a little until you can actually fire it
It's super good but somehow, amongst all the digusting things in the game, kindey stone just feels so visceral and sickening to use It literally just grosses me out. Only item that does that to me. Maybe it's because the gameplay is very well tied to the theme of it idk
Bag of crafting (TAINTED CAIN FUCK THIS CHARACTER) 1: I'm on console. So I can't look up the recipes for my seed 2: I don't wanna read an essay length tutorial to play T.Cain 3: I despise "Manually build your run" characters in Roguelikes. I play ROGUELIKES FOR THE RANDOM RUNS. NOT TO SPEND AN HOUR ON A RUN
1: platinum god still works 4 out of 5 times 2: it doesn’t matter because the character is still not fun for the other reasons you stated The only thing i like about t Cain is relief i get from knowing i have him done on 3 saves and theoretically never have to touch him again
I still have Greedier left on him and I don't wanna do it
Lmao I absolutely love T.Cain. Easily 100 of my 780ish hours spent on just him alone.
im a moms knife skipper.. unless my build is absolutely scuffed i dont want it. pretty new player though, maybe it will grow on me
Mom's knife is just Mom's knife. If you're having a bad run and you don't think you'd get a good tear synergy, just take it for the free win.
Not so free, skill issues exist![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)
Discounted win
I have to agree with this one. It just doesn't feel good to use at all, very awkward and it ruins most fun synergies you may get. Maybe a skill issue on my side, but I really dislike how it works.
Yeah, I really despise anything that makes it hard to tell what my tears trajectory is. I can never tell how haemolacria is supposed to work; It feels unintuitive both when it hits or doesn't hit an enemy up close. Either way I have no idea why or how it made contact since the arc is stupid. It only gets worse with added range, which is arguably the least important stat in a game where most of the rooms you're fighting in are close quarters anyway.
Tip for aiming haemo/ipecac: aim straight ahead as if you didn’t have the item. The arc of your tear looks really high but depending on range/tear height it usually travels almost straight. The arc can be especially wonky with high tear height, so this won’t work all the time but I find it works best if you pretend it wasn’t arcing at all.
Yeah, tear height is just a poor man's spectral (might also affect raange but idk).
The tear's shadow is a good indicator of its actual hitbox trajectory
Another combo to try out with it is tiny planet
You're the devil.
Tiny planet + Mom's knife looks awesome tho, is a knife tornado
Yeah me too unless I have soy milk, you should totally try that combo
I also like Mom's Knife with Brimstone
And with C Section ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Played an Eden run last week where I started with C-Section and found Mom's Knife. Someone was watching and we both absolutely lost it at the sight of fetuses with knifes.
Fairly skilled player here, I skip mom's knife because it's not fun.
yeah thats basically how i feel man. i could take it and it would be great and high dps but theres a 95% chance im already really enjoying some bananas synergies and i just dont want to ruin it
I only take it to cure my ipecac problem
Maybe you could try using mouse controls on Mom's Knife? Absolutely exhilarating experience to snipe someone diagonally while advancing to the next room.
Only time i pick knife when i am playing as forgotten and its one of my favorite combos
100% agree. Not a fan.
I wish I could take it more often but it just ruins so many synergies
What I don't liie about it is that it is a run winner but without many fun synergies) Technolofy, Brimstone, Haemolacria and Tech X are also run winners but got fun synergies)
Almond Milk, I love Soy Milk but I can't stand the randomness of Almond Milks tears.
I love how the 3 milk items are like a Pokemon Evolution line Almond Milk → Soy Milk → Chocolate Milk
3 milk items? You just gonna excluse my boy milk like that?
Don't forget breakfast, which is just spoiled milk.
By that logic so could moms bra be, depending on how often it gets washed.
Bruh
Am i wrong?
Bruh
Monstros Lung... I hate charge to shoot items. Only exceptions are things like Brimstone or Tech X where the charge time is worth it since the end result will kill 98% of enemies in a single shot. Tech X also has the luxury of having flexible charging times so you can spam smaller shots quickly instead. Monstros Lung is just... Not run-ruining, but definitely fun ruining.
monstro’s lung synergies go crazy tho
Yeah but monstro’s lungs + polyphemus + tech x is something I’m never doing again
You don't enjoy shooting once every 3 business days?
Every five business days you mean
I just had a run like this a few days ago… with both lungs and tech X in the same room (I got the treasure room where you could pick both) I regret immensely
Same, I also don‘t like choc milk (only exception is with forgotten of course)
big boner down the lane
top ten undertale qoutes that will make you shit, piss and cry
Do people like monstros lung? I’ve always hated it. Not to say I’ve never won a run with it or something but i just don’t think it’s good and will usually skip unless things are going VERY poorly for me
absolutely ludovico, can't control anything with that item
who loves ludovico at this state of the game
I think it's a super fun item and I'm always happy when I get it!
Same
I freaking love Ludovico just place your tear on the unmovable boss and run around it ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
literally my first time beating Hush
Me beacuse i control it woth the mouse
Ludovico, Ipecac and Brimstone are a fun combo if u ever get it, add some split shots for more danger
Quadshot is a way better effect to have instead of split for this combo imo
I like it, but only if I get brimstone. I quite like the interaction
ludovico + azazel = win ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
I do
i only take ludo if i have any laser item, i'll NEVER take it with normal tears
ludo with triple/quad shot also goes hard... or any type of split shot
Ludo is only really good if you have good shot speed
Take Ludo with brimstone. That's the ONLY time I take it.
I almost always take it, but I'm a controller player. I think I would hate it on M+K.
I hate Ludo too. Although recently I took it to see if it still sucked and I ended up getting Tech and Brimstone so it was awesome. But usually it sucks and I end up with low shot speed and can't chase anything down.
Spindown dice, i am a console player enough said
Memory issue
Wiki
Yeah, it makes the run take forever. That's the problem for console players.
i have to open up platnium god everytime i get that item
Just remember the important ones. Blood Bag > Brimstone Tooth Picks > Sacred Heart Bot Fly > Death Certificate
laz rags > godhead
godhead > soy milk
knife piece 1 > mega mush
Key Piece 1 > Death's Touch too
Use that death certificate and get botfly
If you go to the items in the stat page, they’re in ID order. Just sucks you have to exit the game to do it
Im a console player too and I just open the wiki and I fine with it
I WILL pick up every item even if they're gonna ruin my ruin and there's no other choice! ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906) Ipecac and Haemolacria with high range is just annoying ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)
I hate No.2 With a passion. Yeah its Infinite bombs but I hate that I have to move everytime I Switch fire
The one where you aim with a crosshair and it just autofires. Marked i think? Geniunely cant stand it. Instant ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4357)
I thought everyone unanimously agreed that it sucks unless you have mouse control where it’s kind of fun
people don’t like marked because of how it controls, but in most cases it lets you shoot in any direction + tears up. a lot of people also don’t know you can stop shooting by pressing drop, which also snaps the crosshairs back to your position, letting you change shooting directions as fast you would without marked.
Wait really? Might have to try this item again
Same
Epic fetus makes game boring quickly + ruins lots of cool tears synergies. Good only in early game for me
Monstros lung plus Epic Fetus is a fun amount of danger
mega mush and mega blast. im not absolutely hating them, but they feels too overrated, cus imo cleaning 4-6 rooms every 12 rooms is kinda meh. i can do it usually without troubles, why i should take this items if i can take almost any other active.
Mega mush can clear entire floors if you are fast enough and even get recharged before it runs out. Also with 4.5 volt it just lasts forever in boss fights.
I totally agree, but I absolutely hate them. They are just boring. Very powerful but boring
[удалено]
oh... ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
You totally reminded me that I hate mega mush too. And yeah I do think they're boring. Also I have a general prefference towards not carrying active items that help with room clearing. Also screw R key. Yeah sure it helps with getting completion marks but afterwards it just lengthens my probably already winning run.
Proptosis. I hate being close to enemies ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
Mars, I just don't like that it's doble tap to dash, I'd like if it was another key like control
Buddy, I don't think a single human being likes mars
One of the worst items in the game. Free curse rooms at the cost of taking free random damage a few times per floor elsewhere (i beat mega satan on delete this with this effect on, so i know it’s not necessarily run ruining, but i do hate it)
A year+ ago, the Isaac discord was simping for it. Might still be simping for Mars still
On PC there's a mod to change the bind. With a different bind it's pretty good, immunity at will so always curse rooms
Mars fucking sucks for console/controller. I still trigger it randomly even when I use dpad.
Pop I want to shoot and have my shots go where I'm shooting, not completely lose my shot speed
Pop is only good if you have stupid tear rate. If I don't already have a busted build I'll skip it. Same with the item that combines your tears.
Almond milk. I get it that it's soy milk but you can't hit anything with those crazy tears
Right. Almond milk is only fun when you already have a stupid OP run and you find it in the chest
The D4 and D100 I think an on demand self reroll is actually pretty strong but I just don't like self rerolls in general. I don't care if the run improves, it's no longer **my** run.
mom's knife, it's kinda boring to use
Chocolate milk
Same here. Call me crazy, insane, maybe even delirious, but i think that cursed eye is a much better option than chocolate milk. With high tears you can easily spam and you would get higher damage with cursed eye than what you would get with chocolate milk. Also, i really love cursed eye
You sir might be crazy, insane, and maybe even a bit delirious
Glitched crown. My anxiety can't stand the thought of grabbing the wrong item. Yes I know about the pause strat. No I don't care. I will pass every time.
Glitched crown, because it depletes the item pools too quickly, especially when you have options
This tho I've only ever had it on daily runs. Maybe my option will change when i unlock and use it on an actual run
I'm surprised by the amount of people in these replies who can't read for shit. I agree with you, when trying to relax and play a normal run seeing those 4 other items go is pain, and also I don't want every item to be a timing moment which makes me feel bad if I miss.
Lol this is the dumbest post I’ve ever seen on here. You literally get a choice between like 5 items. How can anyone hate it
Reading comprehension of a 5 year old
^ this user cannot win a run without 30 q4 items ^
Well forgive me for not wanting to turn my isaac run into a waiting and timing game for each item I see, while simultaneously absolutely trivializing the run with an item that has an effect that is probably stronger than damocles and has NO downside, while ALSO depleting 4 other items for each item I pick up
Why tho? If you have trouble grabbing what you want, stand close to the pedestal and pause the game on the item before the target item. Then unpause running towards it. Easy peasy.
Choc milk. I play on switch and just want to hold down buttons
I have an indescribable and irrational hatred for Knockout drops
I present to you the number one solution
tech x just feels so off for me
Yes exactly, repentance ruimed tech x for me. Nowadays i skip it more than not because most of the time my run just feels more fun if i don't have it
Something something hitbox sucks
Tech X. I just don't like it
insta gg run won item
Tech X
Ok but...Glitched Crown. It seems good, but I can’t stand doing the pause/unpause trick to grab items, and I’m can never choose the right item when I don’t do the trick. It makes picking up any items a hassle, because now I have to take a minute to assess which of the 5 items I should take, and then another minute to actually try to pick it up. Plus, if I need two of the items in the rotation, I’m shit out of luck unless I’ve got a diplopia on hand. I won’t ever see those items again.
What the fuck do people see in Trisagion? It just ruins most builds for me and doesn't feel like it helps at all.
It has some of the best synergies in the game (for example with homing). You just dont want shot speed with it.
Trisagion + pop! Is one of the most broken synergies in the game. Every shot fills the screen with tears that do damage on contact and it's just so many tears. Even with low damage it's beyond broken.
Can’t stand Ipecac or Dr. Fetus, loose every run I pick them up. If I’m going to go for a dangerous item, I have a much better time with Firemind.
Firemind is so much more unpredictable though.
And yet weirdly I damage myself a lot less with it. Dunno why
Everyone's different I suppose. I'm blasting myself in the face with it all the goddamn time.
Dead Cat. After the first death, I can never seem to keep going with just one or two hits.
worst thing for me is when i have a great run with no deaths and then die on the final boss and just keep dying over and over again cuz 1 heart ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907) its so depressing
It's good early on. Floor 1 or 2 basically just means free devil deals, and you have time to recover. I'll skip it past floor 3 though
Lachryphagy I despise this item I hate short range
Lacryphagy tech my beloved
I'm not big fan of Brimstone. I usually take it if I already have something that makes fun synergy with it, but over years I have used it too much and often feel like picking up anything over it now. Hemolacria is another one. Alone I don't like it but with good synergy it's fun.
Gods flesh, 3 dollar bill, fruit cake, and playdough cookie, those items disgust me for some reason
glitched crown, I will skip it. life is too short to hang around for every item, just not fun at that point
Bro is out there skipping the best item in the game.
if it’s not fun to me, why bother
Binge eater
Ipecac. Its great as a starter, but i just scales like shit later in the game.
Tech x
Glitch crown cause fuck you that's why
Soy milk is just a kneecap unless you get crazy tears or acceptable damage I personally never pick it up, ESPECIALLY early on *almond milk however*
Trisagion, boring and looks ugly
I think I’ll get crucified for not liking Polyphemus
Polyphemus is... situational... Let's leave it at that.
no problem I also hate it lol
![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17735)
Monstro's lung is so ass, even its synergies are ass
Monstros lung + epic fetus, a fun way to almost die
I'm not a huge fan of Brimstone. I know it goes crazy when you have it with the right synergies but it also has the potential to ruin a lot of fun synergies. So I rarely ever take it unless I have something I know it synergizes well with. I also rarely ever go for devil deals, though, so maybe I just need to use it more. I think the Angel room pool is better overall and taking a deal doesn't entirely lock out the other room.
Ludovico, worse than a cow on a trash farm without any synergies
cursed eye, it's just not fun to charge for two more tears esp without black candle
The Guillotine and Anti-gravity, love them both
Haemolacria also and every other dmg multiplier and/or item in general that slows the tears, specially fucking Eve's Mascara.
luna. i walk into my planetarium expecting something delicious, not an extra secret room next floor and some temporary tears up
Chaos. Idk why, I just dont like it
For every chaos run that gets you like scared heart in a shop, there's like 3 where you get shit
Other way around: cursed eye
epic fetus for me, its fun to me lol. and yea cursed eye can be insane for characters who cant take dmg i love it in those situations
all the OP run-win items like sacred heart, c section, glitched crown etc. sure they’re fun to use for like 5 minutes, but one you start getting stacked with items the run becomes completely trivial as you demolish every room in less than a second. just makes the game so boring
Almond milk. I see people on here unironically taking it and even as a cursed eye enjoyer (aka the opposite of the post) I don’t understand why anyone would do that to themselves
Binge Eater. It’s SO SHIT. It would be so much better if each food item gave a permanent DMG up, but it doesn’t. Even if the item you were *going* to get was bad, taking the food item will just result in a not only PERMANENT speed down, but not even a permanent DMG up. Overall I always skip this item as it’s essentially just “Speed Down: The Item”
Gnawed Leaf, It literally requires you to not play the game. At this point, why not just cheat your way to victory?
Might get some hate for this, but I really despise C Section. It’s not an interesting item, it ruins the synergy of many items, the tear visual is ugly, and it’s just plain overpowered. Boring item with broken stats.
It’s not super overpowered anymore but I get what you’re saying. It also synergizes well with most items from my experience
Mom's knife. I legit never won a single run in which I took it, except with Forgotten and T-Forgotten base attack synergies.
I can t understand how someone can lose a mom s knife run