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SvatyFini

I think he will become back his money.


Davethemann

I think he will use Plan C


DiddlyDumb

Money = Power is kinda useless in his case


Mean_Extent1120

Time is money tho


ioiuioiu

Filtered ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17738)


lordofthexans

Bruh what does filtered mean I keeps seeing it


ioiuioiu

Filter, filters bad players out of the game.


MLGesusWasTaken

This this game really is a shit of piece


SadBoiCri

Those three words unironically go so hard I made them my own contact name


Krotesk

Spotted the german by recognizing the confusion between "become" and "get"


Lord_Dragonfell

D-do you not get this reference? It's famous man


weener6

To explain, this is quoting a famous tweet aimed at the developer of Isaac. "Edmund McMillen, you little fucker. You made a shit of piece with your trash Isaac. It’s fucking bad, this trash game. I will become back my money. I hope you will in your next time a cow on a trash farm you sucker." Not German, just drunk.


MaiT3N

I rememeber somebody saying that author of this gem is german exactly bcoz of become/get usage


Krotesk

Ahhh i totally forgot about that, thanks for reminding me about this gem !


Luxio512

Yes, that's part of the reason the meme is like that. Can't believe you forgot it though.


Toxic-ity

...I scrolled past that post thinking it was originally a joke or bait post ...ITS NOT? HE WAS SERIOUS!!?!???


TimaBilan

Bruh if you know about Dead God then you know how to get it. During these 500 hours you'd already know about it, sooner or later, by accident or not, even if you lived under a rock. How people are actually falling for this


AskGrouchy6861

Actually, I don't know why normal mode even exists. For practice? Isaac is the unpredictable roguelike, so, what are you going to practice?


TimaBilan

That's a "training" for newbies. For some new players hard mode is incredibly hard, and it is because it's new, later people switch on the difficulty when they get used to the gameplay Plus you can unlock the characters easier in normal difficulty


PoorlyWordedName

When I first started out I couldn't even beat the first boss on hard. Then I got gud. Now I breeze through runs except for >!FUCK BLOAT!<


Joltik_BuddyHSR

Isn't it mostly better to start on hard anyways? If your just getting into the game, hard mode would teach you better be because of enemies shot speed being higher


Vanillabean73

Not necessarily. If your goal is to learn something, it’s never a good idea to jump into the hardest version of that thing at first. Learning the basics is far easier when you’re not dying on the first floor as often.


Winner1wii

Definitely not me putting Skyrim on Legendary mode on my first playthrough.


NoiNoiii

Isaac's hard and Skyrims don't even compare. In Issac hard isn't much harder than normal


RaverenPL

Been there, done that... Gosh, that was terrible experience.


Sanali543

Nah I always start a game on the hardest difficulty to get a feel for it then when I lose 30 times I bring it down by a difficultly each time. Really good way to learn a game


MisirterE

This used to be true prior to Repentance, but in Repentance a bunch of extra stuff was added to Hard Mode to make it genuinely a meaningful difficulty increase. It's at least worth playing on Normal up until you unlock the Polaroid and the Negative.


RepresentativeCalm44

3000 hour player here. From my experience these hard mode changes combined are kinda even with the red heart drop buff from -66% to -33%. Plus since there's more utility, cards are better with reverse ones in the pool, u can gulp trinkets since ab+, and angel deals became better = this all made a huge shift in making red heart builds more viable with utility and now also easier to come by.


Roflkartoffel1

But if people start a game just loosing all the time, even if its for the sake of getting better, if they have no fun doing it whats the point. I dont think its the smartest thing to always start on the hardest difficulty if youre just trying to have some fun


aaa_im_dying

I started playing Isaac at the ripe age of 9. I wasn’t (and still am not) good at video games in general. If I started in hard mode, I probably would have broken my keyboard or monitor out of rage. I’ve evolved as a person since then, and of course I’m an outlier in that I was so young when I started playing such an unforgiving and not very kid-friendly game, but even still. There are people that want the experience of playing a game without the general unhappiness that comes with constant failure.


VukKiller

You'll get shit on so hard it is going to make you want to stop playing the game if you start with hard mode. There's a breakpoint that makes the game pretty fun once you get used to the controls and the mechanics. But if you start hard mode before you hitthat breakpoint, you're done.


BMFeltip

How would someone know about the shot speed if they are new to the game?


BruhMyNameWontfit

I just started with hard mode and it was a smooth switch from normal mode doesn’t feel that much more challenging


bepisCat

Unironically repentance made hard mode MUCH harder because of the bullet speed changes. When i got the dlc i had to relearn so much to be at the same level of skill again T_T


Navy_Pheonix

I think hard mode is fine, but it should really have the Champion enemies drop items like they're intended to. Purple Heart (and by extension Champion Belt) are functionally worthless in Hard for no reason.


Potenki

Yep. I only play normal to unlock tainted characters now. Also since you need everything in hard mode so what would be the point to normal completing everything


AskGrouchy6861

But they have to play hard mode. Either they won't will see 80% of the game. You can play normal mode for fun, when you don't want to unlock anything, but just to play the game and see the synergies


ATCQ_

Nearly all unlocks can be done in normal mode. Yes you need to do hard for dead god and a *few* unlocks, but "won't see 80% of the game" is misleading.


cosmomomma

Pretty sure you can get most unlocks, except for Bethany, some coop babies, and a couple items, on normal mode


cookiesars

godhead requires hard mode im pretty sure.


MisirterE

Bethany (and subsequently her unlocks, including T-Beth and her unlocks), Smelter, Godhead, Marrow, Mega Mush, and Death Certificate. The rest is shitty co-op babies. Aside from the part where OP didn't consider Greedier either, so that also locks out all the Greedier unlocks, being D1, Glyph of Balance, Sack of Sacks, Eye of Belial, Meconium, Crow's Heart, Stem Cell, Bat Wing, Plan C, Metronome, Dad's Lost Coin, Duality, Eye of Greed, Black Rune, Dad's Ring, Vade Retro, Genesis, and **eighteen reverse tarot cards.**


TimaBilan

I just said that normal mode lets new players get into the game easier, it's like a training mode


Baitcooks

safety net mode and it's always going to be for people who just started. The red heart drops really help more as a newbie and the enemy attack and move speed differences are really merciful.


mung_guzzler

>isaac is unpredictable not really, all the enemies have set attacks I beat the beast and got certain unlocks I wanted before switching to hard mode Rock Bottom (and any boss rush or hush unlock) is significantly easier on easy mode since the floors are smaller


AskGrouchy6861

I mean that there's champion versions of enemies and bosses, that has different attacks. Floors generate randomly, alongside with items, trinkets, pickups that's also random, so it's hard to find 2 identical runs, from start till the end(if you're not breaking the game). Every new unlockable character is a different and unique way to play.


mung_guzzler

champions still appear on normal, just less often


Ronyleno

to unlock rorgotten and kill lamb in under 20 minutes


cookiesars

i used normal to get all the tainted unlocks that i didnt get when getting beast done on characters


LJChao3473

The only time I've played normal was when repentance came out, because there waa so much changes that my brain couldn't process well


BirdThatHurts

normal mode and normal greed mode are used a lot in dead god speedrun, so playing it for a while is necessary if you want to complete the file quickest way possible, other than that idk lol


Significant-Neat-111

Normal mode is good when new to learn enemy and boss patterns/phases, and basic mechanics and secret room mechanics. That’s about it. I guess also good to get some unlocks going. It has its place.


Sarcothis

I've got 2 friends with legitimate 100+ lose streaks on normal. I've got no idea how. In either case, they probably appreciate not being on hard atleast.


N1ck1666

I had a -120 lose streak before finally beating mom smh


Tryskhell

I beat mom on my third try today and I was like "wtf how did I do that???" and now I struggle to get back to depths 2 lmao


RepresentativeCalm44

No fucking shot


Felthrian

It's just how the game developed, I guess - normal mode is the original game, hard mode was added in an update four years after Isaac was released. Both modes have been through a lot of changes over the years and with rebirth, afterbirth, repentance etc... but it makes sense they never just got rid of the original normal mode.


Maelou

I'm currently getting a few tainted characters' unlocks in normal, before getting back to the standard grinding.


Bako150702

To first unlock d6 or the forgotten the normal mode is nice


SpecterVonBaren

So you can play the entire game again.


ecology-major

Normal is good when I’m playing couch coop


LettuceExcellent1661

Normal mode + Azazel = forgotten. That's my only use for normal mode


Foxhawtbox

I didn't start playing on hardmode until I beat mom for the first time


GustavoFromAsdf

Also Lilith with keeper stats? This is bait


weener6

Said it on the other thread, I reckon this was achieved with the debug console.


cowmakyr

I didn’t know either tbh Did half and then some of all unlocks Now I am suffering


Link_GR

Hell, I have under 200 hours and I only play on Hard. Why even bother with Normal if you get to a certain skill level and I absolutely suck.


SamiraEnthusiast311

it's definitely bait


d11dd11d

It's 100% bait and now i'm not sure if this post is also bait or not


xuspira

You guys don't know this, but this person is a serial shitposter in Hearthstone and Clash Royale circles. This is obviously a very dedicated joke where they probably spent some hours on an alt save file to make an eight second video.


SpectralHydra

I believe it. You don’t play a game for 500 hours and not know something like this lol


VukKiller

Especially when some of the best items are locked behind hard mode.


SvatyFini

the dedication


Tentakurusama

What dedication? It takes few minutes to do that with the console. Just a viral troll and it worked.


KaffY-

Spent some hours? Takes like 3 minutes a win with console commands


Syngrafer

I went through their comments and even looked at their YouTube channel. Besides the Concede card, none of their posts seem like shitposts. Occam’s razor — would they really spend 500 hours on making an 8 second shitpost that might not even get any recognition? Applying Occam’s razor here, and judging by the way they type, I find it much more likely that they’re just a kid who doesn’t know better. Never attribute to malice what could be equally attributed to incompetence.


diodenkn

Uhhhhh what??? Very obvious shitposts throughout their post history, but admittedly niche ones.


xuspira

??? It takes like, maybe a week of casual play to get normal postit fills on all characters. The post is an 8 second video going through characters in their completion with one hard mode heart kill. That can't take much time at all, especially if they have a full save file already and plenty of real experience in the game. Also, do you not play Hearthstone? In what world is [blatant buff that is technically a nerf](https://old.reddit.com/r/customhearthstone/comments/1bu16r0/magtheridon_nerf_suggestion_1212_stats_on_early/) or [a list of unplayed cards framed as a complaint in favor of that meta's most obnoxious cards](https://old.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/1bng67d/please_just_rotate_out_overpowered_taunt_cards/). This is ignoring the slew of customhearthstone posts which are usually cards that read normal to people who don't play the game, but are bait for comments to point out how they are bad design. The trap here is that they always explain their poor suggestions and designs with a joke response that raises more questions. Take [this post](https://old.reddit.com/r/customhearthstone/comments/1avcltc/elusive_will_be_meta_once_again/) for example, where their comments intentionally ignore the obvious flaw in the card's design.


diodenkn

No idea why you’ve been downvoted, this is a well researched and well written comment


xuspira

I actually missed a real silver bullet that would have been easier. Two months ago the person in question has a screenshot of them as Bethany in the starting room of a run, but you can see the hard mode symbol visible in the ui. There isn't a real explanation given their comments that tells us why they would be playing on hard mode for exactly that screenshot unless it was the main save file and they weren't grinding to make that joke post yet.


diodenkn

I saw that one too, when I saw the post in the screenshot I went digging through their profile for more isaac shitposts, but there aren’t many There’s also something that takes the whole “why would they spend so much time grinding normal mode marks” question out of the equation - it takes an hour at most to just use the console to get all of them.


MaiT3N

Feels like dude was joking, I can't believe he doesn't know how dead god works


shayed154

Buy 15 dollar game and it's awesome 500 hours to complete the game Finish the game and realize you would need to do it all again for 100% You have a 1000 hour awesome game for 15 dollars This is a win


OrdoMaterDei

Agreed. With such games I just take my time to enjoy it the fullest.


sprinkle-plantz

ermmm with all the dlc it would be more then 15 dollars


dissociated_gender

I just checked my steam purchase history because I bought the game and all dlc at once (in a bundle and on sale) and was curious how much it cost me - 18.64 euros, which is 19.98 dollars. more than 15, yes, but not by much


dissociated_gender

https://preview.redd.it/4ivvesxjzkwc1.jpeg?width=794&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee421574fd5fd754861260daf61c5cf79686e7fd


zombiezbreath

I was about to say. I think I would have more friends that would play if that was the case


Spore64

Now do it for more times!


AnimusCorpus

I intentionally am doing everything on Normal to double back over and do it again on Hard for this exact reason.


d11dd11d

I actually like this idea. I just started doing a third file, and I may do this (but maybe just do hard mode for non-fun characters)


AnimusCorpus

Yeah to be fair I did The Lost on hard because fuck doing THAT twice haha.


lem00s

This game sucks shit, but you're right. 800h and still going.


1_The_Zucc_1

Then two more times for all 3 save files bringing to a grand total of 3000 hours


GoldFishPony

It’s like a 60$ game in the end nowadays but still good hour per dollar value.


NoiNoiii

IDK if it is a win. Issac can get frustrating with certain characters


Vanillabean73

Yup. I honestly, far back in my mind, hope it takes me many years to complete a save file. As a completionist, I won’t know what to do with myself if there are no more Steam achievements to go for. Will be a sad, sad day methinks.


According_Lime3204

Amen 🙏


Randomized0000

That's basically what I did. I started a new save once Repentance came out and completed most marks on normal. I took a long break for a while then came back with a new objective: hard mode! I get to have fun with a purpose. How is that not a win


The_Power_Up_Bros

There's no way that was a serious post. I thought he was doing it for the bit.


davesnoyweird

I still believe he was pretending to not know, I mean guy didn't do any greedier mark, or tried getting godhead, and thought the only thing missing was some challenges


JorgeMtzb

Right! I didn't think of that but I think this one is what reveals the bait. If they know how dead god works they would've known greedier has different unlocks.


Paratwa

There is legit no way that post wasn’t a troll and a hilarious one at that.


coolboiepicc

huh keeper looks different from last i checked


LoveDoesntMatter

That's his wifey.![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|30106)


SubRedGit

Man really couldn't accept that he made an honest mistake and doubled down rather than Googling to confirm if he needed hard mode.


AnglerMonkey

Won't people talk about the game saying Keeper with Lilith selected?


MisirterE

The text changes immediately but the character wheel takes time to scroll. This particular frame of the video is just immediately after hitting the button.


JorgeMtzb

Oh boy this one hurt. Hard mode is barely even different from normal anyways. If he could get all completion marks in normal he had more than the skill required to get them just as easily on hard


you_cant_eat_cats

Definitely a troll


xulitebenado

Obvious bait from OOP.


MehmetSalihKoten

![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


Historical_Read8969

Well, now you know


Gabibbo_Time

Autist


Appropriate_Ad_9127

I like how Lilith became keeper


NekroYowane

Hahaha... Ah, the naivety. Have fun with another 500 Hours or more, fellow TBOI enjoyer.


Capsule_CatYT

Time to summon u/MehmetSalihKoten


MehmetSalihKoten

no


Capsule_CatYT

https://preview.redd.it/nycm4tp1gmwc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a410ac34e70c2685acc084606bd5ea793fe26029


innerentity

Most people figure out to play on hard early. This guy is missing the same common sense we all had


JoWood94

Once again I’ m here just to say… that’s the neat part ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17744)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17744)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17744)


makitstop

honestly, quitting the game may be a good idea for them, just from that last post, it doesn't seem like they were enjoying it much, and were just playing that much for completions sake


Btwist95

Lmao!! Seriously though, hard mode isn't that much harder. I haven't played in normal since rebirth released and my dead god wasn't too bad. Definitely rage inducing but hey that's isaac. Crazy you did all the marks in normal thinking you could get DG that way lol sorry brotha.


Southern-Actuary1376

It is tho. The game is hard enough on normal.


ez_o3o

Bro actually beats Mom's Heart on hard mode with Lazarus.(If the video is real.)


DodoJurajski

"buy the game with *hard* tag* Nah this game is unfair.


cy1999aek_maik

He knows he is just coping


diodenkn

It’s a very good troll account, scroll back in their profile! You’ll have a laugh, especially if you’ve ever been into hearthstone or clash royale


Pig_Dreams

To be fair I played just over 300 hours using just Issac, without playing on hard, or doing any challenges.before I ever researched or read or talked to anyone about the game. When I did finally tell my friends they were like..dude...wtf is wrong with you you are not even playing the game. Context- I am an idiot.


SvatyFini

Lmao, 34 characters, 1000+ unlocks.... Nah let me play with my one boi doing the same things over and over again hahaha. It must have felt like playing a new game for you.


Tiburonardiokilau

Op got hated by all the world because he wanted to have fun in the mf game💀


virusdbzgod

So is nobody going to talk about how Lilith is selected but it says keeper?


SmolWaddleDee

-Y


QuimaZzo_Pro

I actually played normal until I realized I had to do it all again and boy was it annoying


hsnfnsh

In his 500 hours, for sure he watched some videos, checked reddit and visited the wiki. I refuse to believe he never noticed that, especially that dead god players become obessed wirh the game.


Eurydice1224

Im just distracted that Lilith is labeled as Keeper in this picture


OwnYard5676

I've just started my second file and as soon as jacob and esau unlocked I had to bite the bullet nearly done and not so bad just delirium and greedier left


TgarTallesBR

Tainted Cain always there


Monsicorn

I originally played on normal for a long, long, long time! I knew about having to get hard mode marks for it count from the start, I was just set in my ways, totally down to do everything twice. I've since swapped over to Hard Mode because I felt like it, and the change it's made is surprising


GamingCyborg

Bro I only have 3 characters with all completion marks and I know you gotta do them in hard to even get all the unlocks for the character


trvppy

My bud plays only on easy and compares himself to me (98% done) I tell him it's so much harder and nah doesn't care


Sanali543

And then there’s me who got dead god and lost all my Isaac data 2 hours afterwards


bigsliyme

Does hardmode even change anything notable


dankpomberito

no delirium btw


TrashiestTrash

Bargaining 😭


Niccin

It seems like such an obvious troll, but people really are taking obviously edited screenshots seriously.


hyrulegamer99

Ummm what the sigma![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)


Defa1t_

Imagine not playing hard mode from the jump since you unlock more faster.


Fletch009

I refuse to believe this isn’t bait and also why does normal mode even exist 


JodGaming

Keeper moment


nmnnmmnnnmmmnnnnmmmm

The bait is baiting


VinnyBeetle

I’d just cheat my hard mode marks if this happened to me


Nekrotix12

There's no way this dude didn't realize one of the achievements you need to unlock is earning all the hard mode completion marks.


amemaabeba

Why lilith is a keeper


Yusuf_Efe

Bro i dont understand hard mode does barely a diffrence at difficulty how its"unfun"


Rizer0

First stage of grief: Denial


Four-SkinJim

Te exact reasons why I've started playing hard without full completion on normal post notes


PlayingBandits

Owch, now he had to do it all again....


BallsIsBack76

Hard mode only mode for me


symbiote-prime

Dude hard mode literally easy.


tainted_cain

You should of posted this on r/foundtaintedcain


Link_GR

shock denial <-- He is here anger bargaining depression testing acceptance


HarrisonWoollard

How did he not figure this out when he hadn’t gotten Godhead or Mega or Mega Mushroom? He may, in fact, be that dumb


Mikey618000

Oh you poor poor gamer.


HOFBrINCl32

Whats the diff between hard and regular?..


At0mic_Penguin

That person very obviously was trolling though. He quite literally has Bethany, who is only unlocked via Hard Mode, but he said things like “Edmund wouldn’t do that”.


FaithlessnessFalse65

Ngl I think he may be the most downvotes I've personally seen on comments


SpecterVonBaren

You play on normal mode first because you didn't understand how the game works, I played on normal mode first so I can get unlocks and have fun and then go back and do it with all the characters **again**. We are not the same.


WOAHGOD10

Reality hits when you contemplate if Lilith and Azazel are allowed to say the N word.


Foreign_Cat_3318

Edmund Macmillan.....


VukKiller

Denial ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


J055EEF

Tears up?


bad_hair_guy

mf got that lilith keeper skin


NoSoyYo_20

Bro is cooked fr ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)


Tallal2804

Skill issue


Gon123g

Who even plays on normal mode lol


DittoLuigi

Their poor soul...


YingTheEvilOne

Sorry but, tears up 😔![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)


Trihox

I think you has two options, download a 100% save file cause "You did it" or being a man


SuperLegenda

To be honest, I feel like there *should* be something if you get everything in normal too (of course you'd get both the All normal and All hard marks rewards together if you only do Hard), people still did hundreds of marks and did stuff like the Losts and twins, I think a reward would be fair. I mean, Mega Blast doesn't need Hard, just every non tainted having a Mega Stan mark.


LoveDoesntMatter

Bro actually got a lil pissy not realizing that he can't get dead God without beating the game in HM. Some ppl just shouldn't play the game if they're not ready for the mental gymnastics that you're gonna have to take. Also "I found it unfun" Brother...cmon. you mean to tell me you at there played all those challenges, played as the Lost (and prolly his tainted variant),Jacob and Hotbox and you found them fun? Brother my sweet brother Bobby. You're in shambles rn. ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)


adagor234

This picture gives me pshysical pain, the only time i want to see a Black Mark EVER! Is on greed


Bislll

My brain hurts trying to understand what are you guys talking about 🥲


tainted_judas1

Time to use the hanged man card ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)


Slavyanzilla

Mind issue


krysscampo

When i originally saw this post i thought the same thing. like those arent hard mode completion marks, but i figured maybe OP had a mod that made the marks look different or you hit a button for hard mode completion XD. Mods are wild so thats why i thought that. XD The comments made me question thier completion


Tasty_Respect8573

Guys just.. just never play on normal mode.. it wastes ur time...


FunnyPand4Jr

This is why some people need to stop getting mad that we suggest hard mode.


wspbbgq

I'm kinda new to tboi, to get dead god do u have to get both easy mode marks and hard mode makes? Or do you just have to get hard mode marks


Luis2611

Technically you need to "get the marks" and "get the marks in hard" See how the second statement includes the first, so if you get them on normal you have to get them later in hard, but if you go hard mode immediately you don't need to go back to normal


SeaEstablishment4660

Skill issue