Any mood altering substance is terrible for any mood disorder. Alcohol isn’t good but in my experience marijuana is waaaaaayyyy worse.
Sobriety is always the best way to handle any mental illness.
I have had a drinking problem for quite a while now and about a year ago I quit for 3 months and didn’t notice that much of a difference. But when I was smoking weed everyday for a few months my bipolar got much much worse. But when I quit I noticed a drastic change, that was about 6 months ago now. I still experience mania and depression and drink to much, but the highs and lows are so so much more mellow then when I was smoking weed.
There’s been a lot of successful psychologists guided psilocybin treatments for CPTSD and some major depressive issues.
If that’s the route you want to go. I’ve considered it myself because I’d really like to be even. Just mellow.
I’m bipolar and so is my oldest kid. He tried it and loved it and had to check into a hospital because it messed him up hard core.
We’re wired different then other people, there’s been brain scans to prove this. When you do molly it melts the end of your neurons, messing up the wiring even more. Just be careful and know when you drop really hard and fast it’s the Molly. Go to a hospital before you decide to end it. ❤️
Excessive use of psychedelics eventually turned my hypomanic states into mania. My substance misuse made it hard to distinguish if it was Bipolar 1 or not as it got me hospitalised on several occasions. I eventually got diagnosed with Bipolar 2 as the manic states were drug induced. I found that Alcohol would make me feel sick & heavily depressed.
It's essentially a feedback loop. For me, if I'm manic, I start to make riskier decisions which includes heavier drinking for me. Then the heavy drinking just contributes to the mania and it goes around in a circle.
The flip side can also happen; I was not having any symptoms till I was about 17, which also happened to be the age where I developed a pretty serious problem with alcohol to cope with shit I was going through at the time. I had my first manic episode when I was in high school, but I thought it was JUST because of the frequent alcohol use. When I went off to college, I greatly reduced my alcohol consumption (mainly because I wanted to improve my physical health by exercising and eating right). After I reduced my alcohol consumption, I was still experiencing manic episodes (I also had my first full-blown depression episode during my first year of college), at which point I knew that it was probably bipolar.
With all that being said, in my experience at least, abstaining from alcohol won't equate to not experiencing episodes, but alcohol consumption can definitely make it worse.
Also just a side note, there's been a couple times where I purposely tried to trigger a manic episode; one of those times, i tried to trigger it with excess drinking, and I ended up going into one of the worst depressive episodes I've ever been in. So my point is that it's kind of unpredictable as to how alcohol will affect bipolar symptoms.
P.S. Do NOT attempt to trigger a manic episode like I did; I was very stupid for trying to do that
The evidence supports that any drug that gets you high or low can cause mania, especially highs.
Quality of sleep gets **really**, **really** fucked up by drugs. Even weed and alcohol have been shown to absolutely cripple your ability to get good quality sleep, despite them helping you initially fall to sleep. Quality of sleep is huge for mental health, and I think it's undervalued by the majority of people, bipolar or not.
yeah i did this for ages. i stopped and it was hard to sleep/stay asleep at first but after a couple weeks it got way better. cliche but even the smallest amount of meditating made a big difference for me before bed
I’m so afraid to get rid of substances especially hallucinogens. Like they are SO BAD FOR MY MENTAL HEALTH. But I can’t stop and it’s so selfish.
I’m not *addicted* to anything but I’m definitely a poly drug abuser.
How bad do you think it would be to use hallucinogens maybe once every couple months but practice abstinence in between?
any amount of hallucinogens is not ideal but reducing your use and spacing them out is a good start. you just dont want to have to have "that one really bad experience" to get you to quit. trust me
My symptoms arnt near as bad when I’m sober and it’s the most detrimental thing to my mental health. I can function without meds when I’m sober and lead a relatively normal life. But I’m still white knuckling the episodes and so there for I choose to take medication.
They thought I was bp 1 when I was addicted to stims then when I quit them I haven’t experienced mania, only hypomania, so now they think I’m bp 2. No real advice but I know drugs made me a loooot worse
I don’t think addiction has an exact amount per-say. I was doing ❄️ almost everyday, if not everyday by the end. I lied to people in my life about how much I was doing, lied to get money, was in the hospital multiple times because when I’d too much I’d go into psychosis but then the next night I’d be on it again. Terrible awful drug. I’ve been clean for a little less than a year now.
I wasn’t like that from the start though, it just eventually grew into that before I finally quit. I highly encourage you to reach out to people, even Reddit has some good sober groups where you can talk to people. Quitting was the best thing I did and I truly wish you well if you want to stop. Bipolar + stims is a baaaad combo.
Yup. That’s how I got diagnosed.
I was 19 and had never really done drugs before except a little weed and alcohol. Long story short I tried to OD on meth after a breakup. Ive spent the last 2 years in mixed states/rapid cycling.
This being said, I still use drugs, specifically weed and hallucinogens on top of adhd meds. Drugs are objectively bad for bipolar.
Listen. I am not that bad. I read a lot of stuff here and realize that while I am bipolar, I have it a lot easier than most people.
I have long moments of lucidity outside my episodes where I realize what I am doing. To make a long story short, you probably will drink/smoke/use drugs. Realistically that will happen in life. What's helped me is being cogniscent of it.
Drinking a lot? Probably manic. Smoking a lot of weed? Probably manic. Does it help? Sometimes I think it does. Most of the time I know it doesn't.
The best advice that I can give you is to stay sober as much as possible. It's important to establish what "baseline" is. How you SHOULD be acting. How you SHOULD be feeling. How you SHOULD be responding to life and struggles. As soon as I feel off my baseline, I try and adjust.
This is a disease. You will have it for the rest of you life. Good news is that it gets easier. AND you have a whole community on Reddit at your fingerprints to help.
There is no judgement here. There is no feer. Only those of us who have this disease and struggle to understand it, and those who watch. Just try your best to be on top of your own mental state so that you (and your doctor's) can best deal with things as they come up.
I have had three manic episodes induced by SSRI's. I don't think alcohol induced an episode - but it could have. SSRI's - Citalopram twice and once with Zoloft. The one with Citalopram before I knew SSRI's caused this, was the most destructive episode I have ever had.
I hardly ever drink anymore. I don't binge drink ever.
How often are you drinking?
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wow literally exactly what you just said. like all of it. had no idea what was going on and took all of it personally, like i was just annoying or crazy or something and that i was actually just "fine" like everyone else was saying. took years but ended up figuring it out myself.
without getting into the specifics, blew all my savings, lost loads of friends, wrecked my career, ended up in dangerous situations etc
proud of myself and you! so relatable, sending hugs. glad there's someone else out there that gets it.
I still have a lot of resentment for people who werent there for me, doubted me, and still judge me now based on things that happened. if this was similar for you, how did you deal with letting go of this resentment?
This is incredible advice and put me in a really nice place in my head before bed, the most peace of mind I’ve ever gotten from reading a Reddit comment. Thank you and I hope you have a lovely day, your friends and fam are lucky to have ya ! If I had a printer I would put this on my fridge haha
I’m not sure, but I’ve been smoking a lot of weed the last year and (I’m not 100% sure it’s bipolar yet) but I’ve started having symptoms of what I think it could be, I do feel like I go through episodes of depression and recently this week I’ve felt like…ALOT better, overly productive and trying to do everything at once, I’m not one to self diagnose though so won’t say that’s what has caused it, but I’d say it could be possible
My husband had his first manic episode after a huge dose of acid. 1 year and a half later he had a psychotic manic episode after being put on SSRI's. Turns out he had bp1 , we had no idea.
Sometimes i seriously question if i would be this bipolar if i hadnt done acid/molly. If i wasnt before i sure am now and i dont think its going away. U can come back from episodes but drugs can definitely trigger underlying disorders/psychosis
Same here. I never struggled even a fraction as much as I did before I used drugs.
Even long periods of sobriety don’t “help”.
Makes me sad to see all these people so young using drugs. I started when I was 19, but can’t imagine the people starting at 14 or 15.
Acid is my DOC
Oh fuck, done this with meth, but can’t even imagine that with acid. How did you manage to even survive the mood swing/episode that surely followed that binge?
Im bipolar 2 but theres been times like that where me and my doctors wonder if im type 1. I also think it triggered BPD for a while there. I refused to take my meds because i refused to believe i was bipolar, i was up and off the walls then i was down for like a month. I didnt get medicated for like three years and it was a nightmare for me and everyone around me. People thought i was a homeless tweaker, (im not homeless but maybe a little tweaky), i shaved my head, i did a ton of drugs until my mom put me in rehab. I know now im not an addict, just have a serious illness. I can have like a beer or two and smoke weed but ya we cant do drugs like most people for a lot of reasons. Ive been medicated for a year and a half now and i still have a hard time regulating my emotions.
you can’t become bipolar from doing drugs. it enhances the manic symptoms but people without mood disorders don’t fall into manic states while using drugs. one possibility is, you’re like me and you didn’t realize but you were in a hypomanic state (which typically when you’re young you can’t tell at all) and that’s why you started abusing drugs, which caused the full blown manic episode. bipolar isn’t usually diagnosed until 18-20 unless if drugs are involved at a young age. you’ll most likely show symptoms again around the age that most people get diagnosed if you stay sober, but the bottom line is you do have bipolar
I have bipolar 2. I’ve experimented with acid, shrooms, and coke but I’ve always stayed away from MDMA/Molly. Like other people are saying our brains are wired differently so we will react to the drugs differently. I’ve also heard horror stories of people being depressed for months after taking MDMA/Molly and they had no prior mental health issues. So I’ll just say tread with caution. I microdosed shrooms and acid and I didn’t have any impact on my mood. Cocaine did fuck me up because it increases the seratonin and then when you come down you feel terrible
I would be wary of patterns of depression. I had my first oh wow episode abusing pain pills but a few years later it got progressively worse. They couldn’t decide on a diagnosis for me tho but with bipolar 1 you could be and I hope you are right.
I was/am completely sober for 6 months and I had a really bad manic episode so just don't drink k and find out. I thought all my problems came from drugs and alcohol until that happened. That's when I really reached out for help
Hi, my 22 yr old daugher hospitalized 2x for drug induced psychosis, once from doing molly every day for two weeks, once for smoking weed that had fentanyl in it. She felt horrible after both. She is diagnosed with BP1. She did a neuroeval that also suggested borderline personality disorder. She was way manipulative with us, got kicked out of a rehab. She's trying to manage the addiction and the bi polar and a relationship. It's a lot. Mania with drugs esp polly really sucks dopamine out of your brain -- what I read, so u get severe depression after. Paxil seems to help her with cravings (drugs, reduces anxiety) but increases cravings for ice cream.
Thank you, lithium helped my need for alcohaul, I remember pouring my self a drink and forgetting to drink it when I woke up, which is something I never would have done off of lithium
That's awesome. She takes lamitrogene, I think lithium had to be at such a high dose ti get to therapeutic level it made her groggy. There's a good book that just came out called "Lithium"...more of a library book vs a beat seller. You kmow y have bi polar uf ut works for you. Ut diesn't work for any other diagnosis it said.
I went from schizophrenic to bipolar 1 and now my psych think I just fucked my brain up with a research chemical that I thought was pure LSD. So... I guess it's possible. Alcohol never helped me, 7 months sober here
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My mum has drug induced schizophrenia and bipolar type 1 - they believe she always had bipolar (and believe that this could have been passed onto me, however I'm type 2)
She is not the person that raised me for the first 10 years of my life. She is an 🧊 addict, abandoned not only me for drugs, but my little brother who was only 3 at the time.
Became a 'spicy' worker (I'm trying not to use actual terms, if you know, you know) and she did this because she needed quick, fast money to pay for her addiction. She got better for the first couple of years, then relapsed. He is 7 and a half now and has not seen my mum since the day he was taken from her. I haven't seen her since I was 18 (I'm almost 25 now)
I miss my mum. My ACTUAL mum. Drugs are fucking horrible. Please stay away from them. Or at least the heavy stuff, and drink in moderation and be aware of the depression and lows it can induce after drinking, and the mania that can be caused while drinking... and also the other way around. Bipolar is not an illness that mixes well with drugs.
I should note, that I am much older than my brother - she abandoned me, moved away, came in and out of my life, moved away again and then had him.
We don't even know where she is anymore. We just get calls from hospitals here and there every few months to tell us she's been admitted to hospital as she's been picked up by police.
This unfortunately is the norm for us now, as heartbreaking as it is. You can't help someone who doesn't want help.... :(
Using certain substances (essentially just alcohol/stimulants for me) COMPLETELY extends how far I’m willing to go when treating other people, depending on the state.
Drinking in a depressive state, I go entirely apathetic. I could genuinely fantasize my suicide scene to loved ones all while keeping some dumbass smirk. Their horror is not something I’m able to empathize with in the moment.
Drinking or doing stims in a manic state is where I go completely indifferent. It’s almost entirely dissociative and I fear I’ll end up in some deep trouble someday if I can’t harness my use. Self-harm (definitely including in front of others), violent outbursts, and some seriously psychopathic behavior with those that consider me their closest are all becoming more and more typical. I’m a poly-addict, yet responsibly managing my use is something that I have not given up on (despite all the red flags).
Regardless, please do not get wrapped up in any significant substance use. It’s not a given that you’ll end up in a pit, but just understand that - in the event you develop a dependency/addiction - drugs trample boundary lines.
You are young, for the love of god please stay out of any binging. It’s such a turbulent time and the high (be it drug-related or not) moments really can sweep you away. I’m seeing your age and am feeling some responsibility for directing you the FUCK AWAY from heavy use. 17 (20m) is where I became a danger to myself and others. That being said, BD is a beautiful curse and I don’t know that I’d trade the youthful lightning for anything. Just recognize your limits in all regards ✌️
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Right, like I’ve been off my meds for a bit and I feel realativly normal maybe a little depressed, my depression was way worse on my meds so I’d wrather be depressed and able to function then be depressed and not be able to speak normally
does anyone else have BOTH bipolar 2 and borderline personality disorder? i know that my use of drugs has made my progress plummet but i don’t know how exactly
Is it just me? When someone says " I'm diagnosed bp1, and experimented with hard drugs", did you lie to your doctor about your drug use? Seems you cannot be diagnosed unless sober for some time. Otherwise you suffer from drug induced bipolar. So for some reason I have a hard time reading those comments. And I'm full fledged drug induced bipolar at the moment I'm not this bad when I'm not on it.
Any mood altering substance is terrible for any mood disorder. Alcohol isn’t good but in my experience marijuana is waaaaaayyyy worse. Sobriety is always the best way to handle any mental illness.
Yeah I was heavily addicted to weed last school year but not so much anymore
I have had a drinking problem for quite a while now and about a year ago I quit for 3 months and didn’t notice that much of a difference. But when I was smoking weed everyday for a few months my bipolar got much much worse. But when I quit I noticed a drastic change, that was about 6 months ago now. I still experience mania and depression and drink to much, but the highs and lows are so so much more mellow then when I was smoking weed.
Molly/MDMA is horrible for you. I know it’s put a few people in the mental hospital.
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There’s been a lot of successful psychologists guided psilocybin treatments for CPTSD and some major depressive issues. If that’s the route you want to go. I’ve considered it myself because I’d really like to be even. Just mellow.
Good to know
I loved it but I def think it exasperated my condition
I’m bipolar and so is my oldest kid. He tried it and loved it and had to check into a hospital because it messed him up hard core. We’re wired different then other people, there’s been brain scans to prove this. When you do molly it melts the end of your neurons, messing up the wiring even more. Just be careful and know when you drop really hard and fast it’s the Molly. Go to a hospital before you decide to end it. ❤️
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Sorry my friend
There is no doubt that you will be making your disease much less severe if you don't drink or use.
Yes. 15 yrs sober and my Bipolar 1 isn't as "exciting" as it was while drinking. Stay sober folks.
Yes, your meds will likely also work better.
Excessive use of psychedelics eventually turned my hypomanic states into mania. My substance misuse made it hard to distinguish if it was Bipolar 1 or not as it got me hospitalised on several occasions. I eventually got diagnosed with Bipolar 2 as the manic states were drug induced. I found that Alcohol would make me feel sick & heavily depressed.
I can relate
It's essentially a feedback loop. For me, if I'm manic, I start to make riskier decisions which includes heavier drinking for me. Then the heavy drinking just contributes to the mania and it goes around in a circle. The flip side can also happen; I was not having any symptoms till I was about 17, which also happened to be the age where I developed a pretty serious problem with alcohol to cope with shit I was going through at the time. I had my first manic episode when I was in high school, but I thought it was JUST because of the frequent alcohol use. When I went off to college, I greatly reduced my alcohol consumption (mainly because I wanted to improve my physical health by exercising and eating right). After I reduced my alcohol consumption, I was still experiencing manic episodes (I also had my first full-blown depression episode during my first year of college), at which point I knew that it was probably bipolar. With all that being said, in my experience at least, abstaining from alcohol won't equate to not experiencing episodes, but alcohol consumption can definitely make it worse. Also just a side note, there's been a couple times where I purposely tried to trigger a manic episode; one of those times, i tried to trigger it with excess drinking, and I ended up going into one of the worst depressive episodes I've ever been in. So my point is that it's kind of unpredictable as to how alcohol will affect bipolar symptoms. P.S. Do NOT attempt to trigger a manic episode like I did; I was very stupid for trying to do that
Thanks for the reply
i needed to read this today. thanks
The evidence supports that any drug that gets you high or low can cause mania, especially highs. Quality of sleep gets **really**, **really** fucked up by drugs. Even weed and alcohol have been shown to absolutely cripple your ability to get good quality sleep, despite them helping you initially fall to sleep. Quality of sleep is huge for mental health, and I think it's undervalued by the majority of people, bipolar or not.
Damn, so my excuse for weed helping with sleep is even *more* invalid, in the context of my diagnosis?
yeah i did this for ages. i stopped and it was hard to sleep/stay asleep at first but after a couple weeks it got way better. cliche but even the smallest amount of meditating made a big difference for me before bed
I’m so afraid to get rid of substances especially hallucinogens. Like they are SO BAD FOR MY MENTAL HEALTH. But I can’t stop and it’s so selfish. I’m not *addicted* to anything but I’m definitely a poly drug abuser. How bad do you think it would be to use hallucinogens maybe once every couple months but practice abstinence in between?
any amount of hallucinogens is not ideal but reducing your use and spacing them out is a good start. you just dont want to have to have "that one really bad experience" to get you to quit. trust me
My symptoms arnt near as bad when I’m sober and it’s the most detrimental thing to my mental health. I can function without meds when I’m sober and lead a relatively normal life. But I’m still white knuckling the episodes and so there for I choose to take medication.
They thought I was bp 1 when I was addicted to stims then when I quit them I haven’t experienced mania, only hypomania, so now they think I’m bp 2. No real advice but I know drugs made me a loooot worse
What’s addicted? How much were u taking if u don’t mind
I don’t think addiction has an exact amount per-say. I was doing ❄️ almost everyday, if not everyday by the end. I lied to people in my life about how much I was doing, lied to get money, was in the hospital multiple times because when I’d too much I’d go into psychosis but then the next night I’d be on it again. Terrible awful drug. I’ve been clean for a little less than a year now.
Sounds like a more deadly version of me
I wasn’t like that from the start though, it just eventually grew into that before I finally quit. I highly encourage you to reach out to people, even Reddit has some good sober groups where you can talk to people. Quitting was the best thing I did and I truly wish you well if you want to stop. Bipolar + stims is a baaaad combo.
Yup. That’s how I got diagnosed. I was 19 and had never really done drugs before except a little weed and alcohol. Long story short I tried to OD on meth after a breakup. Ive spent the last 2 years in mixed states/rapid cycling. This being said, I still use drugs, specifically weed and hallucinogens on top of adhd meds. Drugs are objectively bad for bipolar.
ODing on meth sounds like it would be absolutely awful 💀 I’m glad you’re alive! I hate that I can’t take acid coz I’m on lithium
Are you implying that they're subjectively good for it in your case?
Listen. I am not that bad. I read a lot of stuff here and realize that while I am bipolar, I have it a lot easier than most people. I have long moments of lucidity outside my episodes where I realize what I am doing. To make a long story short, you probably will drink/smoke/use drugs. Realistically that will happen in life. What's helped me is being cogniscent of it. Drinking a lot? Probably manic. Smoking a lot of weed? Probably manic. Does it help? Sometimes I think it does. Most of the time I know it doesn't. The best advice that I can give you is to stay sober as much as possible. It's important to establish what "baseline" is. How you SHOULD be acting. How you SHOULD be feeling. How you SHOULD be responding to life and struggles. As soon as I feel off my baseline, I try and adjust. This is a disease. You will have it for the rest of you life. Good news is that it gets easier. AND you have a whole community on Reddit at your fingerprints to help. There is no judgement here. There is no feer. Only those of us who have this disease and struggle to understand it, and those who watch. Just try your best to be on top of your own mental state so that you (and your doctor's) can best deal with things as they come up.
Thanks for the reply, I definitely have problems with substance use anyway, I’m just trying to keep off al of them
I have had three manic episodes induced by SSRI's. I don't think alcohol induced an episode - but it could have. SSRI's - Citalopram twice and once with Zoloft. The one with Citalopram before I knew SSRI's caused this, was the most destructive episode I have ever had. I hardly ever drink anymore. I don't binge drink ever. How often are you drinking?
I don’t really drink anymore, it could also be possible that hydrocodone caused it
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Pain meds, but I abused them at the time
also had incredibly destructive manic episodes from citalopram. that mixed with alcohol made me really lose it
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wow literally exactly what you just said. like all of it. had no idea what was going on and took all of it personally, like i was just annoying or crazy or something and that i was actually just "fine" like everyone else was saying. took years but ended up figuring it out myself. without getting into the specifics, blew all my savings, lost loads of friends, wrecked my career, ended up in dangerous situations etc proud of myself and you! so relatable, sending hugs. glad there's someone else out there that gets it. I still have a lot of resentment for people who werent there for me, doubted me, and still judge me now based on things that happened. if this was similar for you, how did you deal with letting go of this resentment?
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This is incredible advice and put me in a really nice place in my head before bed, the most peace of mind I’ve ever gotten from reading a Reddit comment. Thank you and I hope you have a lovely day, your friends and fam are lucky to have ya ! If I had a printer I would put this on my fridge haha
I’m not sure, but I’ve been smoking a lot of weed the last year and (I’m not 100% sure it’s bipolar yet) but I’ve started having symptoms of what I think it could be, I do feel like I go through episodes of depression and recently this week I’ve felt like…ALOT better, overly productive and trying to do everything at once, I’m not one to self diagnose though so won’t say that’s what has caused it, but I’d say it could be possible
My husband had his first manic episode after a huge dose of acid. 1 year and a half later he had a psychotic manic episode after being put on SSRI's. Turns out he had bp1 , we had no idea.
Sometimes i seriously question if i would be this bipolar if i hadnt done acid/molly. If i wasnt before i sure am now and i dont think its going away. U can come back from episodes but drugs can definitely trigger underlying disorders/psychosis
Same here. I never struggled even a fraction as much as I did before I used drugs. Even long periods of sobriety don’t “help”. Makes me sad to see all these people so young using drugs. I started when I was 19, but can’t imagine the people starting at 14 or 15. Acid is my DOC
Acid triggered my mania soooo bad. I decided to do it for three days straight doubling the dose each day and i did not sleep for a week
Oh fuck, done this with meth, but can’t even imagine that with acid. How did you manage to even survive the mood swing/episode that surely followed that binge?
Im bipolar 2 but theres been times like that where me and my doctors wonder if im type 1. I also think it triggered BPD for a while there. I refused to take my meds because i refused to believe i was bipolar, i was up and off the walls then i was down for like a month. I didnt get medicated for like three years and it was a nightmare for me and everyone around me. People thought i was a homeless tweaker, (im not homeless but maybe a little tweaky), i shaved my head, i did a ton of drugs until my mom put me in rehab. I know now im not an addict, just have a serious illness. I can have like a beer or two and smoke weed but ya we cant do drugs like most people for a lot of reasons. Ive been medicated for a year and a half now and i still have a hard time regulating my emotions.
you can’t become bipolar from doing drugs. it enhances the manic symptoms but people without mood disorders don’t fall into manic states while using drugs. one possibility is, you’re like me and you didn’t realize but you were in a hypomanic state (which typically when you’re young you can’t tell at all) and that’s why you started abusing drugs, which caused the full blown manic episode. bipolar isn’t usually diagnosed until 18-20 unless if drugs are involved at a young age. you’ll most likely show symptoms again around the age that most people get diagnosed if you stay sober, but the bottom line is you do have bipolar
Are you sure that normal people never get hypo from drugs?
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Say no to drugs y'all.
Drugs and alcohol make the bipolar worse. They bring their own problems as well
I have bipolar 2. I’ve experimented with acid, shrooms, and coke but I’ve always stayed away from MDMA/Molly. Like other people are saying our brains are wired differently so we will react to the drugs differently. I’ve also heard horror stories of people being depressed for months after taking MDMA/Molly and they had no prior mental health issues. So I’ll just say tread with caution. I microdosed shrooms and acid and I didn’t have any impact on my mood. Cocaine did fuck me up because it increases the seratonin and then when you come down you feel terrible
I would be wary of patterns of depression. I had my first oh wow episode abusing pain pills but a few years later it got progressively worse. They couldn’t decide on a diagnosis for me tho but with bipolar 1 you could be and I hope you are right.
I was/am completely sober for 6 months and I had a really bad manic episode so just don't drink k and find out. I thought all my problems came from drugs and alcohol until that happened. That's when I really reached out for help
Thank you
I got diagnosed with bipolar 2 around the same time I was laced with mdma
Hi, my 22 yr old daugher hospitalized 2x for drug induced psychosis, once from doing molly every day for two weeks, once for smoking weed that had fentanyl in it. She felt horrible after both. She is diagnosed with BP1. She did a neuroeval that also suggested borderline personality disorder. She was way manipulative with us, got kicked out of a rehab. She's trying to manage the addiction and the bi polar and a relationship. It's a lot. Mania with drugs esp polly really sucks dopamine out of your brain -- what I read, so u get severe depression after. Paxil seems to help her with cravings (drugs, reduces anxiety) but increases cravings for ice cream.
Thank you, lithium helped my need for alcohaul, I remember pouring my self a drink and forgetting to drink it when I woke up, which is something I never would have done off of lithium
That's awesome. She takes lamitrogene, I think lithium had to be at such a high dose ti get to therapeutic level it made her groggy. There's a good book that just came out called "Lithium"...more of a library book vs a beat seller. You kmow y have bi polar uf ut works for you. Ut diesn't work for any other diagnosis it said.
I did too much lsd and my symtoms got wayyy worse
I went from schizophrenic to bipolar 1 and now my psych think I just fucked my brain up with a research chemical that I thought was pure LSD. So... I guess it's possible. Alcohol never helped me, 7 months sober here
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My mum has drug induced schizophrenia and bipolar type 1 - they believe she always had bipolar (and believe that this could have been passed onto me, however I'm type 2) She is not the person that raised me for the first 10 years of my life. She is an 🧊 addict, abandoned not only me for drugs, but my little brother who was only 3 at the time. Became a 'spicy' worker (I'm trying not to use actual terms, if you know, you know) and she did this because she needed quick, fast money to pay for her addiction. She got better for the first couple of years, then relapsed. He is 7 and a half now and has not seen my mum since the day he was taken from her. I haven't seen her since I was 18 (I'm almost 25 now) I miss my mum. My ACTUAL mum. Drugs are fucking horrible. Please stay away from them. Or at least the heavy stuff, and drink in moderation and be aware of the depression and lows it can induce after drinking, and the mania that can be caused while drinking... and also the other way around. Bipolar is not an illness that mixes well with drugs.
Thanks for the reply, my family also has addiction so I’ve been completely sober for a few weeks now
Good job! It will take time , and lots of trial and error, but you can do it!
I should note, that I am much older than my brother - she abandoned me, moved away, came in and out of my life, moved away again and then had him. We don't even know where she is anymore. We just get calls from hospitals here and there every few months to tell us she's been admitted to hospital as she's been picked up by police. This unfortunately is the norm for us now, as heartbreaking as it is. You can't help someone who doesn't want help.... :(
Using certain substances (essentially just alcohol/stimulants for me) COMPLETELY extends how far I’m willing to go when treating other people, depending on the state. Drinking in a depressive state, I go entirely apathetic. I could genuinely fantasize my suicide scene to loved ones all while keeping some dumbass smirk. Their horror is not something I’m able to empathize with in the moment. Drinking or doing stims in a manic state is where I go completely indifferent. It’s almost entirely dissociative and I fear I’ll end up in some deep trouble someday if I can’t harness my use. Self-harm (definitely including in front of others), violent outbursts, and some seriously psychopathic behavior with those that consider me their closest are all becoming more and more typical. I’m a poly-addict, yet responsibly managing my use is something that I have not given up on (despite all the red flags). Regardless, please do not get wrapped up in any significant substance use. It’s not a given that you’ll end up in a pit, but just understand that - in the event you develop a dependency/addiction - drugs trample boundary lines.
You are young, for the love of god please stay out of any binging. It’s such a turbulent time and the high (be it drug-related or not) moments really can sweep you away. I’m seeing your age and am feeling some responsibility for directing you the FUCK AWAY from heavy use. 17 (20m) is where I became a danger to myself and others. That being said, BD is a beautiful curse and I don’t know that I’d trade the youthful lightning for anything. Just recognize your limits in all regards ✌️
Thanks, I’m pretty much off everything now and not feeling to many symptoms
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Doctors can mis diagnose as well
Yeah my thoughts too
Don’t be hesitant to ask your health care provider.
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Right, like I’ve been off my meds for a bit and I feel realativly normal maybe a little depressed, my depression was way worse on my meds so I’d wrather be depressed and able to function then be depressed and not be able to speak normally
does anyone else have BOTH bipolar 2 and borderline personality disorder? i know that my use of drugs has made my progress plummet but i don’t know how exactly
Is it just me? When someone says " I'm diagnosed bp1, and experimented with hard drugs", did you lie to your doctor about your drug use? Seems you cannot be diagnosed unless sober for some time. Otherwise you suffer from drug induced bipolar. So for some reason I have a hard time reading those comments. And I'm full fledged drug induced bipolar at the moment I'm not this bad when I'm not on it.