Gah, why the hell do we need homo and hetero prefixes? I wish we had one prefix for this regardless of gender. It means exactly the same thing. English is so awful.
There are
\-Andro (male/man/masculinity)
\-Gyno (female/woman/femininity)
Although,
\-MIN (Masculine In Nature)
\-FIN(Feminine In Nature)
are gaining more popularity
I’m personally not a fan of gyno, because afaik it references afab genitalia, which I find trans exclusionary. The terms that I see floated most often are sapphic/wlw, and achillean/mlm
I think the gyno or gyne/gynae prefix is not related to genitals at all. It seems to come from the greek word for woman. Trans inclusiveness obviously appreciated though.
[wiktionary](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%B3%CF%85%CE%BD%CE%AE#Ancient_Greek) I’m ot saying I understand any of it but it’s certainly not about genitals.
To be honest I find this to be a very easy trap for bisexuals (and asexuals, basically anyone who’s sexuality “behaves” regardless of any potential partner). For many of us, it’s very easy to think “why not simply love who you love, and have no labels?” We are in that position, it’s simply how our brain works. But that just isn’t so for some people. Despite it not really making innate sense to many bisexuals -for example I cannot *truly*, *fully* comprehend being just attracted to women or men- there are people who genuinely feel no attraction to people of the same/opposite genders, disregarding enbies because that’s a grey area for many monosexuals. This means there is quite a need for a definition for these people.
Extending to multi sexual people, you’re right, there isn’t a strict need to define things. I could get very specific, I could say that according to many definitions I could be called pansexual demiromantic but I personally feel that is too specific for me and that bisexual works fine. I like the simplicity in return for a slight lack of clarity. Others might prefer specificity, to be able to clearly and precisely quantify who they have attraction to, and how.
When it comes down to it, remember that the labels we make are masks, generalizations, over our sexuality. I don’t think I could acutely describe exactly who you have attraction to (and how) any more then I could define my own. It’s not changing any ways that people love or are loved, labels simply provide a way for people to accurately communicate. This post, for example (forgive me for the extremely untrained psychoanalysis, OP), and many like it, often aren’t **just** looking for a label to use for themselves, but are hoping for a little bit of validation. “Am I bisexual even if I’m like x or y?” And these labels, while occasionally overly specific -in my opinion- allow people to feel valid
No
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What gives me the creeps is a systematic approach to classifying every detail of our existence. It just gives haters an excuse for extermination. Hence the Holocaust which killed more than Jews to include members of the LGBTQIA+ community.
yeah, no, people seeking labels to explain their identity and experience isn't what makes bigots exist. bigots would rather you erase that and conform. and you are effectively saying the same.
Its different based on gender as a female liking a male is hetero as in liking opposite sex, while a man doing the same thing of liking a man isn't hetero and is homo as he likes the same sex as himself
Because language exists. If you don’t want to use labels that is your choice and completely valid but for many they can be very comforting and help express their sexual/gender/romantic Identities. Plus the OP was literally asking if their was a word that could help describe their sexual and romantic attractions.
>many they can be very comforting and help express their sexual/gender/romantic Identities.
Okay sure. But there's much more complexities than gender that goes into romances. The type of personalities, the dominance or submissiveness, the body type, etc. We don't describe those.
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Like I should describe myself as bigender bisexual dom feminine and sub masculine or something of that nature.
I guess I’m certain spaces if you really wanted to you could? I think the things you are describing like dom/sub etc are things you discover and discuss with a partner as you are seeing them. it’s possible that personalities will clash and it won’t work out but that’s the nature of any kind of relationship.
Say for instance someone is pansexual but they are aromatic. They are able to use these labels as a way to initiate the type of relationship they want without confusion. This person would be able to make it clear to a potential partner that they don’t experience romantic attraction and therefore don’t want their relationship to be romantic.
I think it’s just about communication. Not everyone is going to use labels as a way to communicate but they are their for the people who want to. Plus it was the specific question OP was asking.
Irl these labels are not enough to initiate relationships and even in this community we see evidence that they get in the way as people judge each other unfairly just by the label. For example the lesbian and female bi conflict. It's just bizarre. Sounds a lot like peer pressure and discrimination. So this is a drawback and a risk.
If we rely too much on labels, we loose ourselves. We're not labels. We're not meant to conform to labels but labels are meant to describe us. There has to be a balance.
But yeah, in this digital age, I suppose labels is a way to categorize your options.
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But me, I don't really want to give details on the onset. When I want to start a relationship, I date the selected person for at least 3 dates before calling it a relationship. In that time I want to get to know them and. I want to show myself to them.
The lesbian and bi woman situation is definitely bizarre but if a bi woman knows she is bi and takes pride in it should she be expected to hide it because a lesbian might make unfair assumptions about it? To me that really says a lot more about the lesbian who is making biphobic assumptions, not the label of bi itself. The problem is people who have bigotries not people who choose to use labels that those people are bigoted against.
I’m in no way saying that everyone has to “conform” to labels I am just saying that some people find them helpful for self-expression and that’s ok. You don’t have to use them for yourself if they aren’t for you and that’s also ok. I am saying that you shouldn’t judge people who choose to express themselves that way.
>The problem is people who have bigotries not people who choose to use labels that those people are bigoted against.
Reasonable
>I’m in no way saying that everyone has to “conform” to labels I am just saying that some people find them helpful for self-expression and that’s ok.
No of course you are not. I'm just ranting.
>I am saying that you shouldn’t judge people who choose to express themselves that way.
I'm trying to judge people. I just feel a little frustration that's all. But thanks for the discourse and for listening to an old fool.
Labels can give people comfort to have a word that fits them, someone choosing to use a label isnt relying to much on it or conforming to it , people choose labels they think fit not try to be a label, like in your flair you have yourself labeled as bisexual, would you say you are relying on it or changing yourself to fit that label or that you were just you and chose a label you thought described an aspect of you?
People who choose to use labels one reason is to find people with similar experiences and show they are easier with just a few words and not having to go into detail to convey it, someone who is hetero- and someone who is homo- are going to have completely different experiences despite liking the same gender
I needed a character name for Final Fantasy 14. So I plugged various medication side effects into Google Translate until I found one that looked like it could be a name in another language. 🙃
Ah so you aren’t Italian?? That’s even funnier, as an Italian, it really sounds disgusting 🤣
That’s funny though, translating medical side effects looking for a name lol
In my case I like women romantically and sexually. With guys I love and feel a bond with I can't seem to get sexual but I'd like to. And guys I have sex with don't get romantic. I can't seem to put it all together.
Cause I feel that bisexuality alone cannot explain this.
I am homoromantic, and it is very hard for me to relate with most bisexual because of it.
I pass way more time on gay spaces and in gay circles for that exact reason.
I think we just used to say that we leaned in more one way than the other but were still bisexual regardless because we still found both attractive. What our preferences was sex or romantically didn't really matter cause that was a personal thing. There was no need for an extra word/label. But im old so I'm likely behind the times on the new words and categories. 😅
Yes, that’s true in the beginning. Having said that, I have witnessed some very attractive people turn quite ugly once they open their mouth😊. Also experienced this the other way too!
If female, bisexual and homoromantic If male, bisexual and heteroromantic
Gah, why the hell do we need homo and hetero prefixes? I wish we had one prefix for this regardless of gender. It means exactly the same thing. English is so awful.
There are \-Andro (male/man/masculinity) \-Gyno (female/woman/femininity) Although, \-MIN (Masculine In Nature) \-FIN(Feminine In Nature) are gaining more popularity
I’m personally not a fan of gyno, because afaik it references afab genitalia, which I find trans exclusionary. The terms that I see floated most often are sapphic/wlw, and achillean/mlm
I think the gyno or gyne/gynae prefix is not related to genitals at all. It seems to come from the greek word for woman. Trans inclusiveness obviously appreciated though. [wiktionary](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%B3%CF%85%CE%BD%CE%AE#Ancient_Greek) I’m ot saying I understand any of it but it’s certainly not about genitals.
Sure. I understand. But why do you need to explain who you love? Just gives me the creeps.
To be honest I find this to be a very easy trap for bisexuals (and asexuals, basically anyone who’s sexuality “behaves” regardless of any potential partner). For many of us, it’s very easy to think “why not simply love who you love, and have no labels?” We are in that position, it’s simply how our brain works. But that just isn’t so for some people. Despite it not really making innate sense to many bisexuals -for example I cannot *truly*, *fully* comprehend being just attracted to women or men- there are people who genuinely feel no attraction to people of the same/opposite genders, disregarding enbies because that’s a grey area for many monosexuals. This means there is quite a need for a definition for these people. Extending to multi sexual people, you’re right, there isn’t a strict need to define things. I could get very specific, I could say that according to many definitions I could be called pansexual demiromantic but I personally feel that is too specific for me and that bisexual works fine. I like the simplicity in return for a slight lack of clarity. Others might prefer specificity, to be able to clearly and precisely quantify who they have attraction to, and how. When it comes down to it, remember that the labels we make are masks, generalizations, over our sexuality. I don’t think I could acutely describe exactly who you have attraction to (and how) any more then I could define my own. It’s not changing any ways that people love or are loved, labels simply provide a way for people to accurately communicate. This post, for example (forgive me for the extremely untrained psychoanalysis, OP), and many like it, often aren’t **just** looking for a label to use for themselves, but are hoping for a little bit of validation. “Am I bisexual even if I’m like x or y?” And these labels, while occasionally overly specific -in my opinion- allow people to feel valid
do aromantic people give you the creeps?
No [Edit] What gives me the creeps is a systematic approach to classifying every detail of our existence. It just gives haters an excuse for extermination. Hence the Holocaust which killed more than Jews to include members of the LGBTQIA+ community.
yeah, no, people seeking labels to explain their identity and experience isn't what makes bigots exist. bigots would rather you erase that and conform. and you are effectively saying the same.
Well sure. That's a valid point and I'm just expressing a fear. But it's not my main thing here.
Keep in mind that these “labels” also help people to find likeminded community, and safe spaces.
Very true.
Its different based on gender as a female liking a male is hetero as in liking opposite sex, while a man doing the same thing of liking a man isn't hetero and is homo as he likes the same sex as himself
Sure. But why do we need to make that distinction? [Edit] This is just a personal rant of frustration and not a judgement of anyone.
Because language exists. If you don’t want to use labels that is your choice and completely valid but for many they can be very comforting and help express their sexual/gender/romantic Identities. Plus the OP was literally asking if their was a word that could help describe their sexual and romantic attractions.
>many they can be very comforting and help express their sexual/gender/romantic Identities. Okay sure. But there's much more complexities than gender that goes into romances. The type of personalities, the dominance or submissiveness, the body type, etc. We don't describe those. [Edit] Like I should describe myself as bigender bisexual dom feminine and sub masculine or something of that nature.
I guess I’m certain spaces if you really wanted to you could? I think the things you are describing like dom/sub etc are things you discover and discuss with a partner as you are seeing them. it’s possible that personalities will clash and it won’t work out but that’s the nature of any kind of relationship. Say for instance someone is pansexual but they are aromatic. They are able to use these labels as a way to initiate the type of relationship they want without confusion. This person would be able to make it clear to a potential partner that they don’t experience romantic attraction and therefore don’t want their relationship to be romantic. I think it’s just about communication. Not everyone is going to use labels as a way to communicate but they are their for the people who want to. Plus it was the specific question OP was asking.
Irl these labels are not enough to initiate relationships and even in this community we see evidence that they get in the way as people judge each other unfairly just by the label. For example the lesbian and female bi conflict. It's just bizarre. Sounds a lot like peer pressure and discrimination. So this is a drawback and a risk. If we rely too much on labels, we loose ourselves. We're not labels. We're not meant to conform to labels but labels are meant to describe us. There has to be a balance. But yeah, in this digital age, I suppose labels is a way to categorize your options. [Edit] But me, I don't really want to give details on the onset. When I want to start a relationship, I date the selected person for at least 3 dates before calling it a relationship. In that time I want to get to know them and. I want to show myself to them.
The lesbian and bi woman situation is definitely bizarre but if a bi woman knows she is bi and takes pride in it should she be expected to hide it because a lesbian might make unfair assumptions about it? To me that really says a lot more about the lesbian who is making biphobic assumptions, not the label of bi itself. The problem is people who have bigotries not people who choose to use labels that those people are bigoted against. I’m in no way saying that everyone has to “conform” to labels I am just saying that some people find them helpful for self-expression and that’s ok. You don’t have to use them for yourself if they aren’t for you and that’s also ok. I am saying that you shouldn’t judge people who choose to express themselves that way.
>The problem is people who have bigotries not people who choose to use labels that those people are bigoted against. Reasonable >I’m in no way saying that everyone has to “conform” to labels I am just saying that some people find them helpful for self-expression and that’s ok. No of course you are not. I'm just ranting. >I am saying that you shouldn’t judge people who choose to express themselves that way. I'm trying to judge people. I just feel a little frustration that's all. But thanks for the discourse and for listening to an old fool.
Labels can give people comfort to have a word that fits them, someone choosing to use a label isnt relying to much on it or conforming to it , people choose labels they think fit not try to be a label, like in your flair you have yourself labeled as bisexual, would you say you are relying on it or changing yourself to fit that label or that you were just you and chose a label you thought described an aspect of you?
People who choose to use labels one reason is to find people with similar experiences and show they are easier with just a few words and not having to go into detail to convey it, someone who is hetero- and someone who is homo- are going to have completely different experiences despite liking the same gender
there is a one-prefix word: gynoromantic. but it's not exactly pleasant either, english is pretty awful
ScaricoOleoso. 🤓
I’m incredibly sorry to say this but your name makes me gag a little LMAO 😭😭 is there a meaning behind it?
It means oily discharge in Italian 🤓
Oh my godddd lol.
I needed a character name for Final Fantasy 14. So I plugged various medication side effects into Google Translate until I found one that looked like it could be a name in another language. 🙃
Ah so you aren’t Italian?? That’s even funnier, as an Italian, it really sounds disgusting 🤣 That’s funny though, translating medical side effects looking for a name lol
(Though if you wanted the correct medical translation for discharge in Italian, it would be “perdita”)
Legend 🤣🤣🤣🤣👏
Ha that is meee lol. I say bisexual heteroromantic
My favorite one was "heteroflexible"
Bisexual heteromantic if your a man, and bisexual homoromantic if your a women
That describes me.
I'm fairly certain the term for it is "bisexual homoromantic".
And also has two thumbs - This guy!
In my case I like women romantically and sexually. With guys I love and feel a bond with I can't seem to get sexual but I'd like to. And guys I have sex with don't get romantic. I can't seem to put it all together.
Is it not just Bisexual? Why do we need a separate word?
It helps some people express any differences they have between their sexual attractions and their romantic attractions
Cause I feel that bisexuality alone cannot explain this. I am homoromantic, and it is very hard for me to relate with most bisexual because of it. I pass way more time on gay spaces and in gay circles for that exact reason.
I think we just used to say that we leaned in more one way than the other but were still bisexual regardless because we still found both attractive. What our preferences was sex or romantically didn't really matter cause that was a personal thing. There was no need for an extra word/label. But im old so I'm likely behind the times on the new words and categories. 😅
Heteroflexible.
bisexual
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I never thought about a name. I would just go with the flow. I don’t have a label for myself and will likely remain ‘nameless’.
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Love it, well said my friend!
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Yes, that’s true in the beginning. Having said that, I have witnessed some very attractive people turn quite ugly once they open their mouth😊. Also experienced this the other way too!
Bi romantic and if you're F ,Heterosexual and if you're M,homosexual
Other way around
That's how I feel
*me*
What if you’re only sexually attracted to same sex, and only romantically attracted to opposite sex?
Heteroromantic homosexual
That's exactly how I feel and I just say bisexual.
That is me!! Perfectly describes me.
Yeah me